Re: [IceHorses] Jane Savoie / Use of the Aids

2008-04-18 Thread Karen Thomas
moves at all. I know that a lot of people have the idea that dressage is all about heavy rein contact, but how she teaches is similar to how I started learning - it doesn't HAVE to be about heavy contact, and it probably shouldn't be. Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Full moon this weekend...

2008-04-18 Thread Karen Thomas
You think it might help? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] sick horses

2008-04-17 Thread Karen Thomas
not a threat to the herd. Which Fafnir is this - I was wondering if I might know a relative of his...? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: My pretty princess pony

2008-04-17 Thread Karen Thomas
are helping, so maybe I'll break the worst of the cycle soon. Like you, I don't want to end up with some variation of COPD long-term - my mom never smoked, but her untreated asthma has left her with serious breathing problems. I hope to learn from her mistake... Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Picture link: Cali session #2; Brunka under sadle

2008-04-17 Thread Karen Thomas
AWESOME Karen!! but you shouldnt ride in sneakers :) Janice Well, if you want to get picky, with all the pollen out and all the shedding horses, and with me taking meds for asthma, I probably shouldn't be out riding at all. But, Brunka's pretty chilled, and Cali needed some company...and I'm

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icetolt

2008-04-17 Thread Karen Thomas
, and had a crippling sciatic injury for almost two years... BUT luckily, I finally got back pretty much to normal. It could easily been VERY different, and it all happened in a split second. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Big Ball-now navicular

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
find a way to ride him...if not, you'll know you did all you could for his happiness, and that's the most important thing of all. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A new friend for Svort/now new homes

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
the same rations. It's much easier if the horses have free access to pasture and/or hay, with little-to-no grain/pellets - there's no strict mealtime other than the first few minutes when the hay is just put out and is a novelty. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Finally tried my Sensation on an endurance ride!!!

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
mainly I think...?) she sees as many treeless saddles as treed ones, and that treeless saddles continue to gain popularity in the sport in her region. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] OT - the puppy is getting bigger

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
oh my gosh he is cute as the dickens!! Janice Isn't he? I want one like him too. And didn't you love the expression on the hubby's face? Great pictures. :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] sick horses

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
yahoo mails have been lagging, so I'm sorry if this is late. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Another Success Story - Dennis Reis

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
of theater! That's one reason I was never sure how much I liked him. And I'm pretty serious about this stuff - I can't really imagine how he ever developed the following he has developed. So, maybe he DID use a round pen a lot and maybe I just slept through those parts! Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Weird question, sorta off topic

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
, but it doesn't have the correction pockets that I like, where you can insert foams of varying thicknesses. I wonder if standard Rit fabric dye would work...? I'd sure hate to ruin it. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] pure love

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
are the most playful of any subgroup of horses I've ever encountered...except for Buck, the mini-mule! Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icetolt

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
to look for ways. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A new friend for Svort/now new homes

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
happy until the end. I'm not recommending this to everyone, but I have a strong gut feeling this is the right thing to do for Thunder. I want him as happy and healthy as possible during his final days. Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos

Re: [IceHorses] Another Success Story - Dennis Reis

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
. Since I wrote that first post, I've been thinking about that very thing...maybe there's a niche that Janice could fill? :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Icetolt

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
than mere gaits - but even so, I do try only to breed horses with ideal gaits. By the way, I never noticed any of my horses catching Tivar's three-gaitedness. Janice, has owning him ruined your other nicely gaited horses? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icetolt

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
badly with a lot less respect to the riders/trainers. I remember that it was Sigrun and her American husband, Jason, who seemed to be sponsoring it, so I assume they were also riding. I assume Gudmar too...? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Another Success Story - Dennis Reis

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
- but it also helps me make informed decisions about the long-term soundness implications of certain training practices being hawked by some unscrupulous trainers... Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandics in OZ

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icetolt

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
ice tolts. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Asking for Gait

2008-04-16 Thread Karen Thomas
them all before seeing them ridden. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A Woman Rider's Seat

2008-04-15 Thread Karen Thomas
liked the BMSS, but man, it killed me to ride it or the no-twist Barefoot on wide old Falki. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Little Ball

2008-04-15 Thread Karen Thomas
background music or anything ... Poor little guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5UMjjh1io Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] pure love

2008-04-15 Thread Karen Thomas
They were pug, chihuaha and lahsa apso mix. I thought that was quite an interesting mix of breeds. That sounds like my kind of dog - I want one! Good thing you're across the continent. Cary says five is our limit. But, then Cary says a lot of stuff... :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] pure love

2008-04-15 Thread Karen Thomas
think it's basically hooey. I guess it just depends on the horses. It's been a couple of years since Orri was gelded, right? And he only bred for one season? Has he lived with geldings since his surgery? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] pure love

2008-04-15 Thread Karen Thomas
bred a lot of mares too, for several seasons. He was absolutely no trouble at all when we brought him into a herd of four geldings and one mare. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A new friend for Svort/now new homes

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
where no training proved to be a good training alternative. Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Janice is famous...well, sorta...

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
provided them the laugh of the week! Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] saddle pad problem

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
, and it worked well for Tivar, but as much as you ride, it could be time for some replacement parts. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Icetolt

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
they are due, and we'll even pull a foal if there is any doubt about the mare's or foal's survival during delivery... Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Big Ball

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
that he had to be retired so young. This video is recent? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re:saddle pad problem

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
wouldn't use that type on Tivar.The peaked ones don't seem to bother the low-withered horses, but the non-peaked ones can sure rub the withers of the horses who have them. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Classical Training in Iceland/Spanish Walk

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
nor levade, not in my area, and there's a strong dressage crowd here. I suppose that Spanish Walk is more common in the Spanish breeds, but I sure don't see many trying to teach it. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Trausti gait - stills from video

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
first, just from the video, even though she claims to be a gait newbie. :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Brunka gait at liberty

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
Here's the link to the long distance video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjE9zN9oB04 And the Best Director award goes toDarn, who DOES it go too? Not Kevin, certainly not Cary...Janice, maybe Donny ISN'T so bad after all Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Big Ball

2008-04-14 Thread Karen Thomas
took a little video of Isak and Landi playing with a little Walmart SpongeBob ball. Should I upload that to YouTube? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: update on BALDUR / Join Up

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
of Jolli (head instructor at Holar) showing his mare in some contortion of what he tried to pass off as Spanish Walk. That picture shows about every possible don't for Spanish Walk all rolled into one posture. It's the picture he selected to be on the cover of his video. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Classical Training in Iceland

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
english and western! That's a pretty common misconception...with children. We should hope that adults know better, but some don't. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Classical Training in Iceland

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
their bodies arranged into some odd position... Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Trausti pictures

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
Here are a few pictures of pretty boy Trausti. He's got that spring gelding look - too much gelding play and not enough shedding yet - but I think he's still a handsome guy. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.1h4dk27jx=0y=-u4jckxlocaleid=en_US Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Brunka pics

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
Pretty Brunka - too bad it's not easier to take good pics of dark horses. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.5y46fstrx=0y=dckbb8localeid=en_US Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Trausti at liberty - what gait(s)

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
This isn't a great video - I was trying to encourage Trausti forward and video at the same time. Trausti is a really sweet boy, very dependable, but generally not in a big hurry. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PU-RAUy1RPI What gait(s)? Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Brunka gait at liberty

2008-04-13 Thread Karen Thomas
Here's a short video of Brunka gaiting at liberty today - again, not an optimal angle. After a few people guess, I'll send in some still shots I grabbed from the original video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn_rumnsqwk Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: update on BALDUR / Join Up

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
on. These things take time: both the initial training and especially any retraining that may come up later because of the initial rush. Karen Thomas, NC .

Re: [IceHorses] Update on Bibi

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
of profit in doing this...only an immeasurable feeling of trust to be gained from these awesome creatures. Karen Thomas, NC How do you make a small fortune with horses? Start with a large one.

Re: [IceHorses] clueless horse lovers

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
research, and we certainly took lessons, before we bought our horses, and we still made tons of mistakes. We still do, but hopefully, we'll make fewer and fewer as we go along. Sadly, some people are so clueless that they don't even know they are clueless. God bless their poor horses. Karen

Re: [IceHorses] OT -cameras

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
to be having lots of Kodak moments any day now, when the two foals finally come out to play. :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Foals cameras

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
I was thinking of those babies last night. Aren't they about due? I say so, but they are vetoing my decision on this matter... :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Tab Hunter

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
the current pictures of, say, Tom Jones, who has apparently had so much work done that he's now got that perpetual surprised-deer-in-the-headlights look, which is really pretty scary-looking to me. Janice, I'll bet Tab-Teev will age just as gracefully... :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
be surprised if they are that inexpensive now. Since I already have two harnesses, I probably should just go ahead and get a cart... Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very

Re: [IceHorses] Cali video - Leadline surcingle and Unwind game

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
just bear in mind me and tab hunter will be BEATING you and the cali girl Jacki!! haha Janice Not if he shows up wearing those frog slippers! Jacki She does have a point there, Janice. :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: update on BALDUR / Join Up

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
Karen says Tivar will work on a lunge but I must be doing it in that roundpen manner he fears because when I put him on a lunge he starts going fast in a circle in a very frantic upset manner until I force him to stop and pet him and talk soft and calm him and get him back. I'd be willing

Re: [IceHorses] JP Giacomini

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
it that often though...) Last year he bred his remaining reining-horse-bred QH mare to one of JP's stallions, producing what they call an Azteca foal. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A new friend for Svort / Tivar

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
for him. I do not know about the lunging except that he hated it so I did not do it. He would go like Karen said fast around while gritting his teeth. perhaps he had that done in training. When he was first trained Jo did free lunging with him and ran alongside him and he loved it. They would

Re: [IceHorses] Baldur has an Album

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
I posted three photos in an album titled Baldur fra Alfasaga. How long did you have him? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Saddle marks

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
patterns. I'll try to remember to get some pics of Sina's back next time I ride - assuming I ever get over this stinking cold and the weather ever gets decent again... g. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Definition of Natural Gait Training

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
potentially more complicated about gait training a gaited horse is that there may be more gaits to pick through and isolate. I just think we should never have to create a gait, only hone the skills within whatever natural gaits the horse has. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
at a good price. I'm not looking to fork out $3000 on one of those, when I can get a new easy-entry cart for about $500-600. Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very

Re: [IceHorses] Wary Horses

2008-04-12 Thread Karen Thomas
about stuff, but a raised eyebrow from an older broodmare will leave her quaking in her boots... Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Update on Bibi

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
often go two years between floats, and some even longer. But, it will vary a lot from horse to horse. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Thunder, April 2008 (Off topic)

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
need to gently push a horse past his comfort zone in order to make progress, but hopefully we can do that in small enough increments where the rider's physical safety and the horse's trust aren't jeopardized at all. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Update on Bibi

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
that may be. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Ride on Scooter and Walter the mule

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
From the help of some hikers we got some pictures taken of both of us. Nice butts huh? The horses that is Scooter is just too adorable and I'm glad you're having fun with him. He seems like a great guy. Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Trail Horse - trotting

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
, even at a standstill. And if the horse has other viable soft gaits and/or can canter, we can encourage those. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] ground driving

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
of buying a traditional cart because I'm tired of waiting. They sounded good, but they certainly were a departure from convention. Mic, do you know anyone in the UK that is using them? Weren't you the one who first saw them and reported them to the list? Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
gaited, but I'd like to know more about what's going on. If he's really young and just under saddle, maybe it's not a big deal, but it sure left me with questions. If he IS that green and still finding his balance, I'd like to see more plain old regular walk before asking for gait. Karen Thomas

[IceHorses] Janice and Jeffers

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
than 24 hours, Cary was indeed tired of putting up with her sh*t. Karen Thomas, NC

Fw: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
something pretty soon. Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive

[IceHorses] Janice and Jeffers

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
more pics i took just before they arrived. Tivar's mane is looking GOOD! Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Update on Bibi

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
Was it Tab Hunter? HAHHH! Tab - what a great nickname for Tivar/Teev! Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Angie - first lesson towards saddle training

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
to get a new name...? Has anyone else heard that...? Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Re:Update on Bibi and an update on BALDUR

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
him go. Send prospective owners to dreamhorse. Is this him? http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1202065 Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Jeffers traffic cones

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
. They are just $5 each, but appear to be made of the same heavy-duty stuff the big real ones are. They are very visible, so they seem like a great deal. Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Cali

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
=4jh0nhxz.6uckmgynx=0y=-uxunoklocaleid=en_US Cali used to be known as Angie, but someone suggested that with her blonde mane, she looks like a California surfer girl. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
of the carts she has and a new harness from Simon, maybe we can do a two-fer deal. Keep me informed. I would certainly like to see one and I'll try to forego the temptation to order an easy-entry cart until I've seen one. (Moses Cone in Junea!) Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Cali video - Leadline surcingle and Unwind game

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
instantly. Cali also figured out the unwind game pretty quickly. Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Cali and Jacki

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
Here's a little video of Jacki working/playing with Cali last weekend. That was Cali's first experience with the feed sack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl7zupaWAGI Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A new friend for Svort

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
Congratulations! What a wonderful picture. Cali was fairly wary of folks when she first got here, but she WANTS to be a friendly, cuddly horse. She really warmed up to Jacki, as the picture shows. I think she's decided that she'd like to have her own person. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] A new friend for Svort

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
I was thinking we could have called her Gidget Gidget and Tab - how cute! Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Cali video - Leadline surcingle and Unwind game

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USMPPfKqE2I Karen, nice job. That would be a good video for the on-line show; what do you think? Thanks, Judy - it's certainly fine with me, if it's ok with Jacki. I'll make sure it's ok with Shirley. Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Cali video - grooming from the mounting block

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
=IwTK5tiJXeE Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Two more Cali videos - starting to circle, and intro to the saddle pad

2008-04-11 Thread Karen Thomas
, the horse is supposed to move forward. Connie is convinced that she could help if she were just allowed to. Later, Cali got to meet the saddle pad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As_tENWgmhM As typical, there is a cat underfoot. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Hay Shortage now another rescue Icelandic

2008-04-08 Thread Karen Thomas
of us who INTEND to be forever homes may not actually be.It's a sobering thought, but we do what we can. This is why I gelded Melnir last year...I may have a FEW more babies here, but at 52, there's a real chance that this generations of my babies will outlive me. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] OT(kind of): Saddle fit

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
money, you can't beat a Skito for protection, longevity, and the ability to customize them. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hay Shortage

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
://thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=6010kw=round%20bales http://thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=10472kw=round%20bales http://thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=7103kw=round%20bales Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Angie update

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
training now - if we see that she needs more time, we'll give it to her, but I think she's getting ready for a new phase of her life. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hay Shortage

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
certainly seen a few dead mice in our hay - not many, but a few. And like you, Nancy, I've heard about all sorts of dead critters in our hay in our area. I haven't seen any lately, but I know others have. It happens in NC. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hay Shortage

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
- it was cut before the heads fully formed. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hay Shortage

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
or requires expensive and risky surgery. I'd bet the number of non-fatal colic cases is much higher than the less common botulism poisoning. While the odds of a full recovery after a colic bout are fairly high, even plain old colic isn't something I want my horses having. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hay Shortage

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
, and many of the reported cases never get a specific cause assigned. It's usually not fatal, but I still don't want my horses to have it. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Mats!!

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Orri is shedding like crazy. When I was brushing him I noticed that he has some matting around the armpits. Darn. I thought you were going to say that you bought the cow carpet mats and that you liked them. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Mats!!

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
Oops, sorry...maybe the spelling should've been matts? I don't know - it's probably right. Just knowing you are setting up a farm makes my brain go to certain topics... :) Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Flexible Trees

2008-04-07 Thread Karen Thomas
the flex-tree saddles in videos...and never shown in that light. Do you know what brand that saddle is? No wonder the horse was bucking. Karen Thomas, NC

RE: [IceHorses]Mic - re: mould vs mold

2008-04-06 Thread Karen Thomas
that they pull some letters out of a hat containing all the letters in the alphabet, and they would use whatever they thought of from the first letters. And thus it was: CehN...ehDeh.. With just three letters they got CANADA. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hay Shortage

2008-04-06 Thread Karen Thomas
as a lecture, and I'm sure you'll make the best decision for your horses and your area. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Wanda! Your cat??

2008-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
woods and like to come dig thru the trash maybe? Or maybe your foxes and coyotes are killing off the raccoons and opossums. (Did I really just write opossums - and me a good Southern girl...?) Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Driving questions

2008-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
(Saga, Trausti, Skjoni, Melnir or Sina most likely) who's quite used to the trails, know how to ground drive, and who knows how to steer from the saddle and from the ground. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] New Tipperary + helmet

2008-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Had anyone seen or tried the new Tipperary plus sportage helmet? No, but I'm going to order one for Cary to have as a spare. It comes in an XXL, and those are hard to find - unless you are ok with the $300+ models from Dover! Thanks for the tip. Karen Thomas, NC

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