Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-11-02 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. Thinking about using my 1400 for a water catcher for a plant since not one person from the swap list has any interest

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-31 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I understand that. I have no idea what you're replying to, since you didn't quote anything. Josh

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-31 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: [Malcolm's original comment about the transition from OS 9 to OS X being a breeze for all users omitted in his reply] Oh, was it? Because that's not how I remember it. I knew someone would say that. What's that supposed to mean? You

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-31 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
[Malcolm's original comment about the transition from OS 9 to OS X being a breeze for all users omitted in his reply] Not what I said. What's that supposed to mean? That every posted opinion is promptly contradicted. If you're not inclined to say I stand corrected I stand contradicted.

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Al Poulin
On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. Maybe to read old, old files and screen shots from the '90s that modern software cannot convert or even to see and read. Al

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Elliott Price
A quick check with Mactracker says that it's not PCI. The 6100 has either a PDS slot, or a NuBus slot. Neither of which are compatible with PCI cards. I doubt that there ever were any wireless cards made for PDS or Nubus. -Elliott On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
My oldest machine can't even run Jaguar. My oldest machine is the Powerbook 540c. It has a 33Mhz 68k Motorola 680LC40 processor. This is my VERY fisr mac with a non-PowerPC processor. Last summer was when I received my first non- G3-5 based PowerPC 603e machine. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:44 PM,

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Steven
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote: My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly, completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla here), send emails, work, watch movies,

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
I agree with steven. I also believe in older computers, and sometimes I bring in my PB 5300cs for reminders, notes, phone numbers, and song names. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote: My oldest Mac is a PDQ

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 30, 4:13 pm, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote: I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being useful

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
Oh, was it? Because that's not how I remember it. I knew someone would say that. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Mystic Prowler
Well, judging my the course of technological expansion over the past few years, we should start seeing 128-bit computers around 2016, and commonly around 2024. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Mystic Prowler
That isn't too far away you know. 2016 is only 5 years from now, and 2014 is only 13. It's almost 2011, the year of the touchscreen and touchpad. let's see what will go on. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs.

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread MJ Raichyk
The CHINESE market, India, Brazil, etc will determine what develops, because they are the expanding market of the future.. like by 2012. And judging by the way that the Chinese do their OWN companies to overmatch the American companies -- with blow away pricing and maybe questionable quality

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 28, 7:16 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems because Ubuntu still supports PowerPC with their newer system releases. Dual boot: Ubuntu 10.10 with: Mac OS X 10.5.8 It sounds good to me. The latest

New Mac platform (was: Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 29/10/10 10:26PDT, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/28 17:16, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote: I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems because Ubuntu still supports PowerPC with their newer system releases. Actually, Ubuntu dropped official support for PPC

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Mystic Prowler
I tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my G5 iMac, and it turns out that the installer crashed. It says that i need some kind of boot partition map. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at

Re: New Mac platform (was: Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Mystic Prowler
I agree, but at the same time I suggest doing this: The Apple A4 chip should be standardized for all mobile platforms (except laptops), while Apple should go back to the PowerPC, but have a different name and a new generation, like the PowerPC G5 v2, or the PowerPC G6, or the Core G6... I love

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 29, 2:27 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my G5 iMac, and it turns out that the installer crashed. It says that i need some kind of boot partition map. Yep. You gotta read the tutorials and format the HDD according to instructions prior to

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Mystic Prowler
I understand that. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Steven wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/29 16:07, Ashgrove so eloquently wrote: On Oct 29, 2:27 pm, Mystic Prowlercoolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my G5 iMac, and it turns out that the installer crashed. It says that i need some kind of boot partition map. Yep. You gotta read the tutorials

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I have a question The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Well, judging my the course of technological expansion over the past few years, we should start seeing 128-bit computers around 2016, and commonly around 2024. A wider highway is one way to get a faster traffic flow

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 29, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I understand that. I have no idea what you're replying to, since you didn't quote anything. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-29 Thread Mystic Prowler
Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is off of topic, but oh well. I took a trip to the jurrasic today, and found my PowerBook 5300cs sitting on my desk. I recently got a new battery for it, so it is a little more useful than it used to be. To think of it,

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-28 Thread Mystic Prowler
I have a question The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I wonder if it would be a good idea to dual-boot it with Ubuntu systems

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-28 Thread Steven
On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I'm not going to defend the way Apple has

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Dave wrote: Gosh, folks, is this what they mean by the Apple tax? No, the 'Apple Tax' is a sarcastic term used by Windows trolls to complain that Macs cost more than Dells, even though comparably equipped Dells usually cost just as much. (or morecost out

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Mystic Prowler
Apples are the best computers I have and will ever use. I have no need for anything else. As long as Apple stays on tack, i'm happy. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Mystic Prowler
My bad, on track, not tack. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: My bad, on track, not tack. Hmm, at first I thought it was a NEW theological argument: How many Apples can balance on the head of a tack? 8-P -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Mystic Prowler
cool I am getting an 867Mhz 15 Powerbook G4 next week... =) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, Please tell us more before we go out and buy one of them. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread krys weaver
well it was news to me.. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion -- You received this message because you are a

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X But see, that switch was mostly painless for users. This reaps them mucho good will from many people (such as me). In fact, there were 3 enormous changes over the years: 1. 68xxx to PowerPC 2. OSArabic numeral to OSRoman numeral 3. PowerPC

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Mystic Prowler
Malcom 'o Brian, you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines you know, I have 2. One is a 17 1.25Ghz that WAS a 1Ghz but had it's logic board replaced because of an unknown reason. My second iMac G4 is identical to yours except it is a 15 screen, and it's internal IDE Bus failed. It is

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Tina K.
Being a PPC user, 10.7 Lion has no bearing on my computing experience. At least not until I can afford an Intel Mac, which is years away. But the one thing about the upcoming release that I am curious about is will Apple finally commit to 64 bit through and through, or is this going to be

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Mystic Prowler
I am okay with PowerPC macs for now... mostly because leo is still supported. They are fast, don't get me wrong. Especially my iMac G5. I turned the energy saver option to Best for performance, and this machine roars louder than my G4 machines combined. I do need a new MBA, though. A good 15

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Dan
At 4:46 PM -0600 10/27/2010, Tina K. wrote: the one thing about the upcoming release that I am curious about is will Apple finally commit to 64 bit through and through, or is this going to be another of several incremental steps toward 64 bit that began with 10.4 Tiger? IF Apple goes with a

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines Yup, I love mine! Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. Instead, I use my PC desktop, PC notebook or iPod Touch. When my 80GB drive was getting full, I replaced it with a 500GB that I

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Cyrus Griffin
Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Apparently it works well even on the faster G4s. www.YouTube.com/html5 -Elliott On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Malcolm O'Brien malcolmo2...@hotmail.com wrote: Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. --

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-27 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Yes, from info given here. Two results: 1) It's better. But it's a better sequence of still pictures. :( 2) You only get HTML5 *IF* the video doesn't have an ad on it and there are only a small number of those. So, effectively, it's not better enough to make it

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-26 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 25, 2:26 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion Well, it will

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 25, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: SSShh! IXNAY on the inofay ! Apple wants it to be a surprise. Many of those machines are not paid off yet. If you haven't paid for a $1200 computer you bought in 2006 in four years, you have bigger

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-26 Thread Dave
Gosh, folks, is this what they mean by the Apple tax? On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Ah, but all of that model were not sold at the beginning of the production run but some

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 26, 12:24 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: And also Bruce you are thinking like a person with a steady income and no job interruptions, family emergencies or such things as medical bills. Amen to that. (In two months, I'll be done with my 2008 medical bills

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
Okay okay... I read it a while ago too... but don't be so hard on me. I thought some didn't know. please close this discussion. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 25, 2:26 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, and a lot of people will

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5 and can only go to OS X 10.6. My G4 sawtooth has a wide range of operating systems... Mac OS 8.6-Mac OS X 10.5.8 some later lower end core duo machines shipped with leopard I do think it is not going to be a list of

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Steven
On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5 and can only go to OS X 10.6. I don't see any reason to assume that Lion will drop support for early Intel processors. The three year life of the final PowerPC Macs

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 25/10/10 13:24PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote: G5's are 64-bit, so why drop support for them? Because Apple wants to sell you ANOTHER muti-thousand dollar computer. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 25/10/10 15:44PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote: I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. I have a G5 as my main desktop. However, I can't justify getting a new computer unless it croaks beyond recovery. My secondary computer was a G4 PowerBook, but it has been pretty much

Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Steven
On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. Personally I wouldn't want that. In my experience, the laptop should always have lower specifications than the desktop. When I first switched to Mac I used an iBook G4 as my main