AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss.net tests

2002-04-21 Thread Jung , Dr. Christoph
Hmm, well ... Problem is that we introduce a lot of additional dependencies (Axis, wsdl4j, commons-logging, tt-bytecode, etc.) on the testsuite then. Problem is that we would have to make jboss.net a standard-module, but honestly we are behind the main release cycle: If everything goes ok, we wil

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Michael Robinson
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 07:11:52PM -0400, David Jencks wrote: > 3. I'd like to have an actual user ask for this over explicitly listing the > files in the deployment scanner. I'm an actual user, and just the thought of reording by typing a bunch of % mv 05my-application.war 06my-application.wa

[JBoss-dev] We got now 183 votes for Bug/Eou 4670071 ... But you can surely do better!

2002-04-21 Thread Jung , Dr. Christoph
Title: Nachricht Thanks for the massive support of this IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT issue ... If Sun(TM) would count the Eou section in their TOP-Bug list, we would be IMHO already in the upper half.   But let´s be sure about this! Don´t let them assign some freshman on this bug! Make it a prime m

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> > David, if you are reading this... and got this far down... what is the > > plan to > > have this issue tied down and solved once and for all. I think the > > approche > > that dain, you and I discussed in Tahoe is along the correct lines. > > > > Do you have any idea when the wrinkles wi

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread Randall Parker
No, it would show up on the RFE list, not the bug list. Sun classified it as: State In progress, ease-of-use enhancement Doesn't that mean it shows on the RFE list? Then it would show at position 12 at the moment since I just gave it the 180th vote. Yes, Sun is very slow about updati

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> But this thread was started by you, whose original complaint was that it is > difficult to configure packaged archives. The answer is staring you in the > face and you can't see it... Deploy these as exploded archives, and modify > the configurations whenever you want. I don't want to manage

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
> > David, if you are reading this... and got this far down... what is the > plan to > have this issue tied down and solved once and for all. I think the > approche > that dain, you and I discussed in Tahoe is along the correct lines. > > Do you have any idea when the wrinkles will be sort

Re: MBean attrib persistence was Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Yes, agreeded, but lets put this off until some of the other problems are fixed. There is nothing pressing us for this feature at the moment. Lets hold off until the deployment and dependency system is fixed. Either that or find a way to clone yourself. --jason Quoting David Jencks <[EMAIL

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
> You are trying very hard to implement exploded archives... which I personally > have little need for. But this thread was started by you, whose original complaint was that it is difficult to configure packaged archives. The answer is staring you in the face and you can't see it... Deploy thes

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> scanner1 looks at dir1 with jar1, jar2jar 100 in it > > scanner 2 looks at dir2 with jar101...jar200 in it. > > I haven't checked recently but I thought scanning happened in its own > thread. Yes each DS which extends from ADS gets its own thread. > scanner1 starts, new thread deploys j

Re: MBean attrib persistence was Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
Also.. I think we need a way of feeding configuration change scripts into the server. For example, config snippets showing only the changed values for the mbeans. Furthermore eventually we should make this transactional... all changes succeed or you get back to your original state. david jencks

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Seems kind of tricky... but perhaps not. Since when we shutdown the server we don't really undeploy right now, we simply stop and destroy... or do we undeploy? Seems a bit risky, I can see someone developing a deployer whjich would undeploy its children when stopping, which might be desirable

[JBoss-dev] Automated JBoss Testsuite Results: 22-April-2002

2002-04-21 Thread chris
Number of tests run: 579 Successful tests: 563 Errors:7 Failures: 9 [time of test: 22 April 2002 6:37 GMT] [java.version: 1.3.1] [java.vendor: Blackdown Java-Linux Tea

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
On 2002.04.22 01:06:14 -0400 Jason Dillon wrote: > I am not sure what you mean. Can you explain more? > > --jason scanner1 looks at dir1 with jar1, jar2jar 100 in it scanner 2 looks at dir2 with jar101...jar200 in it. I haven't checked recently but I thought scanning happened in its own

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> Multiple scanners make it difficult at best to define deployment ordering. > URLDeploymentScanner is already written (by you, I might add) to handle two Thanks for reminding me of the obvious... > forms of deployment: Directory scanning and direct URL deployment. I am > trying very hard NOT t

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
Most of this is taken care of by the xmbean persistence descriptors, and we can add more as necessary. Read Juha's book, and look at the xmbean dtd. I think the ways to undo a stored configuration are to explicitly undeploy the mbean, either individually through some interface or by undeploying

Re: [JBoss-dev] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue a

2002-04-21 Thread Alarik Myrin
Just gave my 3 votes. Out of curiousity, assuming that Sun does nothing with this, or takes their sweet time doing something about it, what is the plan from JBoss' perspective? (A) Distribute a patched version of the JDK classloader (B) delay the release of 3.0 (C) modify 3.0 not to use the U

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
I don't think that merging two sets of config is that much trouble, if you start out with the xml, use them as defualts, then invoke the mbean setBLAH() an interceptor checks a attrib store for a preconfigued value, if there is one then it is used, else the provided value is used and that value

MBean attrib persistence was Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
What is the hell about jboss-auto.jcml? Is it that you never quite know what config is used? If so, then all of these solutions will result in this hell. Though some like it hot... and for them we can provid some abstraction to implement a file based persistence or jdbc or whatever. Then the

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
> > The solution you presented at the time was to create an alternate scanner > > for this purpose. I don't like that since it violates the concept of > > exploded archives being treated just like their packaged counterparts. > > What? No it does not at all. It is just the same, it is just a ma

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
I am not sure what you mean. Can you explain more? --jason Quoting David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I really hope I'm not throwing more fuel on any fires... > > If you have one scanner whose scanned directories can be ordered > individually, you still get to specify the startup order of

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Change Notes-546958 ] New local tx jca-jdbc wrapper

2002-04-21 Thread noreply
Change Notes item #546958, was opened at 2002-04-22 04:47 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=381174&aid=546958&group_id=22866 Category: JBossCX Group: v3.0 (Rabbit Hole) Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: David Jencks (d_jencks) Assigned to: David J

[JBoss-dev] [AUTOMATED] JBoss org.jboss.Shutdown does not work

2002-04-21 Thread chris
= ==THIS IS AN AUTOMATED EMAIL - SEE http://www.lubega.com FOR DETAILS= = JAVA VERSION DETAILS java version "1.3.1" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edi

[JBoss-dev] Automated JBoss Testsuite Results: 22-April-2002

2002-04-21 Thread chris
Number of tests run: 559 Successful tests: 540 Errors:11 Failures: 8 [time of test: 22 April 2002 4:44 GMT] [java.version: 1.3.1] [java.vendor: Blackdown Java-Linux Te

RE: [JBoss-dev] multiple invoker configuration

2002-04-21 Thread Bill Burke
1. SOAP and CORBA clients will probably not be Java based. So no client interceptors for them 2. I think advanced users may want to define different interceptor chains for different EJBs. 3. Entity, Stateless, and Stateful beans all have different client interceptor stacks. So, there needs to

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Hiram Chirino
The problems with auto-jcml stuff was that it tried to merge two sets of configuation data, one set that user maintained and another that was application maintained. Maintain both sets of data was tricky and error prone. So my thoughts are, we need to be able to support: 1. manual service co

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-546940 ] classes not loaded from WEB-INF/classes

2002-04-21 Thread noreply
Bugs item #546940, was opened at 2002-04-21 21:51 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=376685&aid=546940&group_id=22866 Category: None Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Scott McLaughlin (mclaugs) Assigned to:

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
The jmx part of this is the persistence service, which is pretty highly configurable. I think jbossmx has an xml-based persistence service implementation. I also think it works best with xmbeans or at least modelmbeans, another reason to migrate soon. So I think the technical issue of storing t

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
I really hope I'm not throwing more fuel on any fires... If you have one scanner whose scanned directories can be ordered individually, you still get to specify the startup order of the directories by how they are listed in the single scanner. With more than one scanner, this may be less determi

RE: RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean interceptor stack config & params

2002-04-21 Thread Matt Humphrey
Here's an example (a SOAP message): http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"; SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/";> The text of the header A B The body double Note that there are

[JBoss-dev] Automated JBoss Testsuite Results: 22-April-2002

2002-04-21 Thread chris
Number of tests run: 577 Successful tests: 535 Errors:24 Failures: 18 [time of test: 22 April 2002 2:26 GMT] [java.version: 1.3.0] [java.vendor: IBM Corporation] [java

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Lets not force every user down that path... lets make it possible then let the user choose. --jason Quoting David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 2002.04.21 21:21:55 -0400 Jules Gosnell wrote: > > > > So : > > > > persist any SPECIFIC settings made through the JMX agent and overlay > > th

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Quick thought... if there was a pluggable interceptor in the config service which would filter values as well as some JMX interceptor that would persist attribute changes... Or even a pluggable interceptor around JMX attribute changes (for get config service, cause it will just invoke the serv

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> I want a distinction between directories to be scanned, and URLs to be > deployed. This goes back to an earlier patch (that I never checked in) for > URLDeploymentScanner. If you specify a URL that is the base of an exploded > archive, then currently the scanner scans that directory. It shoul

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> persist any SPECIFIC settings made through the JMX agent and overlay > them on top of the DEFAULT settings contained in > .sar/META-INF/jboss-service.xml. The system in 3.0 can not do this. And I am not refering to using the JMX agent at all. In my production usage of JBoss, I use ant to f

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
On 2002.04.21 21:21:55 -0400 Jules Gosnell wrote: > > So : > > persist any SPECIFIC settings made through the JMX agent and overlay > them on top of the DEFAULT settings contained in > .sar/META-INF/jboss-service.xml. This might be doable if we are really careful however in the bad old da

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
Jason, thanks for trying to get this discussion back to something useful. There's another thing I've mentioned a couple of times that I think is relevant. What's the relationship between the initial config supplied by *-service.xml files and the possibly modified config in the mbean server? If

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jules Gosnell
So : persist any SPECIFIC settings made through the JMX agent and overlay them on top of the DEFAULT settings contained in .sar/META-INF/jboss-service.xml. but desist from the 'it's such a pain to unpack/repack' argument, because, as we have shown, there is no need to repack. Jules Jaso

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
I want a distinction between directories to be scanned, and URLs to be deployed. This goes back to an earlier patch (that I never checked in) for URLDeploymentScanner. If you specify a URL that is the base of an exploded archive, then currently the scanner scans that directory. It should, inste

[JBoss-dev] Automated JBoss Testsuite Results: 22-April-2002

2002-04-21 Thread chris
Number of tests run: 572 Successful tests: 531 Errors:25 Failures: 16 [time of test: 22 April 2002 1:4 GMT] [java.version: 1.3.0] [java.vendor: IBM Corporation] [java.

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Why? --jason Quoting Larry Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Yes. The current UDS has a hacked sorting blah (which I was not found > of, > but > > is required for the system to work as it stands now). If you want to > make > the > > URLCompa* change to make this optional and pluggable then

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: Sill a problem with IIOP startup...

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> A jacorb.properties in run.jar would just avoid this warning: > > > > > WARNING: no properties file found! This warning can be ignored for applets. > > > A file file called "jacorb.properties" or ".jacorb_properties" should b

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: Sill a problem with IIOP startup...

2002-04-21 Thread Francisco Reverbel
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Jason Dillon wrote: > I really don't like that we have to put stuff into run.jar to solve > IIOP/JacORB specific problems. Can we get around this? Or is this just to > make it work in IBM? A jacorb.properties in run.jar would just avoid this warning: > #

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
> Yes. The current UDS has a hacked sorting blah (which I was not found of, but > is required for the system to work as it stands now). If you want to make the > URLCompa* change to make this optional and pluggable then go for it. I would > leave the default J/E/W/S comparitor in the default co

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
I think the claims of this being requested by users are suspect. Marc presented some alternatives in the London training, and this one won a vote. I don't think that means anyone asked for it or would find it useful. It means it looked good after Marc's presentation. Anyway, I think there is a

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
I agree, lets get a real use case then see what the simplest solution is. In the mean time I don't see any reason not to make this pluggable, so that users can come up with any arbitrary complexity for deployment scanning which they have a jones for as long as we leave the default config s

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Yes. The current UDS has a hacked sorting blah (which I was not found of, but is required for the system to work as it stands now). If you want to make the URLCompa* change to make this optional and pluggable then go for it. I would leave the default J/E/W/S comparitor in the default config

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> > But we don't do this... Jetty is part of the release, it is not a seperate > > > component which users download and configure. > > until the next release/important-bug-fix of Jetty. > I thought your whole point was that they DO configure it ? My point was much larger than Jetty, with respe

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
1. I think marc wanted the numbers at the beginning 1myjar.jar 2mysar.sar 3myear.jar etc. 2. I don't think mixing ordering schemes within 1 directory has any chance of working. 3. I'd like to have an actual user ask for this over explicitly listing the files in the deployment scanner. david jen

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
> don't be an ignorant bastard on your own idea and its actual > implementation. Whatever dude... I am enlightened to users needs, to the needs of IT professionsals who need ease of configuration managment... I am enlightened to the possibilities of creating a super system around JBoss which wi

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread Corby
Hmmm... Sun claims that their "Top 25 bugs" page is updated daily, but our bug still hasn't cracked the top 25 today. As a matter of fact, if they updated now we would be up at #8... Corby * * * View thread online: http://jboss.org/forums/thread.jsp?forum=66&thread=13431

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
> This is insanity... how is renumbering your deployment files > simipler/easier/faster/better than opening up a config file and listing the > order there? There is already a hacked sorting in the URLDeploymentScanner... but it stops at extension comparison. This proposition extends that just a

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Ok this is more insanity... who was it that thought that renaming files as the simiplest solution to ordering? Right and I am a goat "moo moo". It works as it is right now... leave it alone. There is no need for prefixed sorting or this cryptix semi-suffix sorting blah. If users want this ma

RE: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
This is insanity... how is renumbering your deployment files simipler/easier/faster/better than opening up a config file and listing the order there? How? --jason > I agree, so let's drop it. I want the simplest numbering available > 'UNIX-styleee' and for more advanced (read have time) the

[JBoss-dev] JORAM JMS testsuite integrated

2002-04-21 Thread Hiram Chirino
I've integrated the Joram JMS testsuite into our testsuite. I've added the target 'tests-objectweb-jms' to the /testsuite/build.xml to execuite it. It's still not executing 100% error free, but it's close. We have some selector problems and the other problem is that our default secutity restri

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
I *really* don't like jar1.jar, sar2.sar. Let's make the naming convention a little less likely to stumbled upon by unknowing users. I suggest: jar_jb1.jar, sar_jb2.sar, etc... then the default sorting can look for "indexed" deployments first, and sort the remainder by type. This allows a simp

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: Sill a problem with IIOP startup...

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
I really don't like that we have to put stuff into run.jar to solve IIOP/JacORB specific problems. Can we get around this? Or is this just to make it work in IBM? --jason Quoting Francisco Reverbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry for the trouble. Port 5000 was just a random (and poor) choice

RE: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
I thought we discussed this before, where it was agreed that the simple solution was to have users explicitly list the users in the order they wanted rather than implement another sorting system in UDS. We already sort using DeploymentSorter (J/E/W/S as you called it), addinf this prefix numbe

[JBoss-dev] Should JMX RMI Adapter move to jmx module

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
I am thinking that it should. Perhaps some of the other stuff under server (org.jboss.jmx) too? Some stuff will have to stay (like the EJB adapter), but I think that we should move what we can. --jason * * * View thread online: http://jboss.org/forums/thread.jsp?forum=66&thread=13586 _

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: Sill a problem with IIOP startup...

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Ok thanks... but why does this failure mess up the boot up sequence? Can we change the port so that XP users don't have this problem? --jason Quoting Adrian Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Jason, > > There is a service on Windows XP that sits on port > 5000 (same one used by iiop). > It is c

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
I'm not sure specifying the global sorter for a whole scanner is the way we want to go... on the other hand extensibility is nice... Do we want to encourage people to have lots of scanners? At the risk of making things more complicated than necessary, yet striving for simplicity, how about

RE: RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean interceptor stack config & params

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Can you do me a favoir and explain this in more detail... and example too. It would save me the time to hunt down the relevent specs just to understand the concept. --jason Quoting Matt Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You can do this with namespaces. The stuff outside the tag is scoped > wi

[JBoss-dev] More class loading weirness - lockup

2002-04-21 Thread Dave Smith
After I have patched the loadClassInternal in the rt.jar I am still seeing the jboss lock up on deployment. Here are the two threads that are actually doing something . I can see why CCRAPoll is hung because the main thread has locked that classloader. But the "main" thread is waiting to lock a cl

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders- Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread Chris Harris
As long as they don't realise we're still using 2.4... ;-) hehehe c marc fleury wrote: >>http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4670071.html >> > >Just went there and gave my 3 votes, I liked the comment at the end "large >financial institution needing this for the ultimate dep

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders- Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread Jules Gosnell
I just made this 133. Jules marc fleury wrote: >>http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4670071.html > > > Just went there and gave my 3 votes, I liked the comment at the end "large > financial institution needing this for the ultimate deployment and > upgrade..." yep this is

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
> As larry said (do you have rw yet?) Yup. I've already checked in at least one bug :-) > let's not shove it down people's throat > and let's document all of this. Case closed. Implementation needed :) Simple, and not too hacked implementation: Add MBean attribute to URLDeploymentScanner: UR

RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
> http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4670071.html Just went there and gave my 3 votes, I liked the comment at the end "large financial institution needing this for the ultimate deployment and upgrade..." yep this is what we use it for... come on guys please go to the JDC, ope

RE: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
|Anyway I'm starting to think being able to order deployments this way is |probably a good idea, see my other post, just don't make it the only way. I agree, so let's drop it. I want the simplest numbering available 'UNIX-styleee' and for more advanced (read have time) then the xml based deploy

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
On 2002.04.21 15:46:46 -0400 marc fleury wrote: > | | name="jboss.deployment:type=DeploymentScanner,flavor=URL"> > | > | > | |optional-attribute-name="Deployer">jboss.system:service=MainDeploye > |r > | > |5000 > | > | > | > | ./deploy/jar1.jar, > | ./deploy/

RE: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
| | | |jboss.system:service=MainDeploye |r | |5000 | | | | ./deploy/jar1.jar, | ./deploy/sar2.sar, | ./deploy/war3.war, | ./deploy/jar4.jar, | ./deploy | | | |Which is easier, setting it one place here or changing n names in your m |ant bui

[JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
PLEASE VOTE!! I haven't used Sun's bug parade before... today I went and voted. For those who haven't looked, with BugParade you get 3 votes you can apply to any bug or request for enhancement you wish. You do not have to make any comments. It is really quick, simple, easy, etc. If you can m

[JBoss-user] AW: [JBoss-dev] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote a nd Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread Jung , Dr. Christoph
It´s a rt.jar problem that happens on all platforms, now, and spuriously (because it´s a threading issue and Depends on when which classes are loaded!). CGJ -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Marius Kotsbak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2002 14:13 An: Jung , Dr. Chr

[JBoss-user] Re: [JBoss-dev] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Is this a Win32/1.3.1 - problem only, or is it the same for linux? Is it something that jboss has a problem with now (how often does it happen?), or something that isn't implemented because of this. ( 1 voted 3 votes on this, I think :-) Marius On fre, 2002-04-19 at 12:41, Jung , Dr. Christoph

[JBoss-dev] [JBoss-user] tomcat4 log dir in jboss3-rc1

2002-04-21 Thread David Ward
I don't know the ins-and-outs of creating a change request, but was wondering if for the next rc of jboss3-tomcat4 the tomcat4-service.xml file could be changed in this way: From this: To this: Currently it assumes the old JBoss-2.4.x-Tomcat-x.x.x dir structure where jboss and tomcat/cat

[JBoss-user] Re: [JBoss-dev] tomcat4 log dir in jboss3-rc1

2002-04-21 Thread Scott M Stark
The sourceforge project page is the gateway to all requests: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/ Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: "David Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> C

[JBoss-user] Re: [JBoss-dev] tomcat4 log dir in jboss3-rc1

2002-04-21 Thread Jason Dillon
Is there a way to access properties from the tomcat config? If so it should set the log dir in ${jboss.server.home.dir}/log --jason Quoting David Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't know the ins-and-outs of creating a change request, but was > wondering if for the next rc of jboss3-tomcat4 t

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean interceptor stack config & params

2002-04-21 Thread Chris Harris
The ANY content within a DTD will only allow 'any' content that is currently defined in that DTD - not any content at all. Extremely sucky since it really curtails the ability of an XML application (e vocabulary) do carry arbitrary payloads. Don't know about XSD but I hope it's better. c Dav

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
> No in fact it is the contrary my pet idea was the directory names > first/second/third this is what the class in London decided was the simplest > to use (as opposed to going and setting mbean names left and right which is > the direction you are heading full speed). My 2 cents: For users who

Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: Sill a problem with IIOP startup...

2002-04-21 Thread Francisco Reverbel
Sorry for the trouble. Port 5000 was just a random (and poor) choice I have made when implementing the IIOP stuff. I will change the default config and move IIOP to the port officially reserved for IIOP, whatever such port is (do not have the OMG docs at hand right now). As for the warning co

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
All my problems with your idea of lexical ordering of deployment would go away if it was optional, per directory. I can see that sometimes it will be convenient. I don't want to have to number all the more-or-less required packages in deploy, however. How about if the deployment scanner mbean c

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
On 2002.04.21 14:02:40 -0400 marc fleury wrote: > > |just "I haven't taken the time to find out how the deployment works or > test > > I wrote the fucking deployment. Along with me, Jason, and Larry Sanderson, to name a few. > > |it, and my pet idea isn't implemented, so I'm going to bitch" >

RE: [JBoss-dev] multiple invoker configuration

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
Bill Why is it that we need to specify a client interceptor configuration per JRMP invoker again? I know there was a good reason when you were discussing with Francisco but I can't remember. aren't these stand-alone, refered to by name and a bean can say "use these?" independently of the invoker

RE: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
|just "I haven't taken the time to find out how the deployment works or test I wrote the fucking deployment. |it, and my pet idea isn't implemented, so I'm going to bitch" No in fact it is the contrary my pet idea was the directory names first/second/third this is what the class in London deci

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
What problem are you trying to solve marc? You haven't indicated anything that doesn't work except your personal ordering preference. What actual deployment problem are you seeing right now with the current code? I haven't seen you say "this can't be done easily with the current code", just "I h

Re: [JBoss-dev] jdk1.4 sql changes problems with jca wrappers

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
There's no problem using a jdbc 3 driver under jdk 1.3, since java just thinks the new methods aren't part of the jdbc interfaces. Calling them is another question;-)-- you'd have to cast to the specific driver's class. The problem I'm having is that I am wrapping e.g. Connection. To compile und

RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
yes clearly best of both worlds. marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry |Sanderson |Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:13 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ? | | |I currently deploy jetty-plugin.

RE: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
Ok you guys just talk without end and the simplest solution is still not done, I will have to do it just so that we have something that works. Just pisses me off marcf |-Original Message- |From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:45 AM |To: marc fle

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jules Gosnell
Thanks, Larry, This is exactly the approach that I was suggesting. Jules Larry Sanderson wrote: > I currently deploy jetty-plugin.sar as an exploded archive. Best of both > worlds: convenient organization, ability to modify jboss-service.xml on the > fly, will automatically redeploy whenever

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Jules Gosnell
Jason Dillon wrote: >>I weighed up the pros and cons of how Jetty should be distributed and >>decided to leave it in a sar for the time being because it makes it much >>easier to redistribute and install updated versions of Jetty and Jetty >>is an independant project with a seperate release cyc

Re: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-544848 ] EAR Deployments don't work

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
Yeah, I am aware of this problem. A different classloader is now used to load classes and lib, and this is very bad. We can make them the same, but which do we use? A unified loader, or the servlet-containers loader? It is a simple fix to throw the WEB-INF/classes into the unified loader, but

Re: [JBoss-dev] jdk1.4 sql changes problems with jca wrappers

2002-04-21 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Is JDBC 3.0 a JDK 1.4 only feature? Is there going to be an optional pack for 1.3 users? If not, that really sucks. If you want the new drivers, you have to upgrade to a x.0 version VM. Sounds like a M$ move. BTW, I searched google and couldn't find any info either way. -dain David Jencks

Re: [JBoss-dev] is 1.2.2 support dead?

2002-04-21 Thread Dain Sundstrom
We can't compile against 1.2.2 either. I tried it last week. -dain marc fleury wrote: > yes > > marcf > > |-Original Message- > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill > |Burke > |Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:54 PM > |To: Jboss-Dev > |Subject: [JB

Re: WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
> Ok I am really tired of everything/everyone DOES THE SIMPLE NUMBERING OF > DEPLOYMENTS WORK??? I WANT A YES/NO ANSWER. > > If I do 01first.sar and 02second.war do I get 01 first and 02 second? > > YES=NO > > ? umm YES != No the answer is NO If you want deployments in a specific order li

Re: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread Larry Sanderson
I currently deploy jetty-plugin.sar as an exploded archive. Best of both worlds: convenient organization, ability to modify jboss-service.xml on the fly, will automatically redeploy whenever the xml is touched. -Larry > Well, perhaps not completly sucky, but as it is now it does suck. When I

[JBoss-dev] jdk1.4 sql changes problems with jca wrappers

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
It turns out there are some problems I didn't anticipate with the new ConnectionManagers and the non-compliant jdbc wrappers we have, so I went ahead and wrote a new, jca-compliant, lgpl local-tx wrapper. Since I'm now developing on jdk 1.4 mostly, I made my new jdbc class wrappers conform to jdb

Re: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-544848 ] EAR Deployments don't work

2002-04-21 Thread Craig Day
patched the class org.apache.struts.digester.Digester to use: Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader().loadClass() instead of Class.forName() and this fixed the first problem, but straight away ran into more of the same. So is Class.forName() supposed to work with the new jboss3 classloadi

WTF??? was RE: [JBoss-dev] SAR... Sucky ARchive ?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
don't be an ignorant bastard on your own idea and its actual implementation. |Take Jetty for example. I am a user and I want to change the |port, or enable SSL or add a non-deployed webapp for |development... how do I do that? I have to break open the |jetty-plugin.sar, change jboss-service.xml

RE: [JBoss-dev] is 1.2.2 support dead?

2002-04-21 Thread marc fleury
yes marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill |Burke |Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:54 PM |To: Jboss-Dev |Subject: [JBoss-dev] is 1.2.2 support dead? | | |If so, I can clean up some of the dead configuration stuff in |standardjbos

[JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] Save the Rabbit Hole UnifiedClassLoaders - Vote and Argue at the BugParade! - Spread the Word!

2002-04-21 Thread David Jencks
PLEASE VOTE!! I haven't used Sun's bug parade before... today I went and voted. For those who haven't looked, with BugParade you get 3 votes you can apply to any bug or request for enhancement you wish. You do not have to make any comments. It is really quick, simple, easy, etc. If you can m

Re: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-544848 ] EAR Deployments don't work

2002-04-21 Thread Craig Day
I got worried about this thread so i tried it out myself. With a properly structured .ear file containing the stock standard struts-example.war that comes with struts, the RC1 distribution works fine, but the latest on branch_3_0 fails at servlet init time with CNFEs trying to load classes from

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