Absolutely everyone goes into my database ;-))
If I had a large number of boarders, I'd create a "father" for them
all, perhaps named "Unlinked Boarders".
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Hi Wally,
Welcome to the discussion.
I think you'll find the best way to combine your Gedcoms is to import
each into Legacy and use Legacy's Merge function to find and merge
the duplicates. Merging is one of the strengths of the Legacy program.
If you know there are whole branches that are d
Hi Pat,
The colour change for labels for items with sources isn't on Family
View unfortunately. Just the Individual Information Screen and the
Marriage Information Screen.
I'm not sure where you're seeing the change when you add additional
sources. Perhaps you can clarify?
Cathy
At 10:41
Thanks for your replies. Italicized names are due to unknown sex. I have a
few children listed and their names could be either male or female so I
entered the question mark until I can research it.
Also I changed to plain text on this email and hopefully I did that
correctly. :)
~Lisa
Lega
surely the easiest solution is to add the ability to add same sex
relationships. It is then up to the individual using it as to whether
or not to add them. Problem sorted.
John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not a question of legacy respecting the traditionall family. It
is, rather, a que
Legacy would need to get new programmers to accomplish that as it's too hard
for the current group to deal with the problem. That's the explanation that
has repeatedly been offered.
On 10/7/07, John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> surely the easiest solution is to add the ability to add same
I'm not sure if Legacy included these marriage status choices or if they
imported from Family Tree Make, but I would appreciate someone clearly
defining what the intended use is and would appreciate some examples for the
use of each to be cited:
Friends
Partners
Unmarried
If the above are not par
I'm a computer programmer and it's not that much of a problem, unless it
was written badly in the first place.
TH wrote:
Legacy would need to get new programmers to accomplish that as it's
too hard for the current group to deal with the problem. That's the
explanation that has repeatedly been
One of the many reasons I changed from FTM was the reason that I had lost
most of the simple copy and paste on my reports with FTM2008. Previous
versions of FTM were fantastic and allowed to copy and paste showing the
indented generations. I would often copy and paste a section to run queries
e
John Wilson wrote
I'm a computer programmer and it's not that much of a problem, unless
it was written badly in the first place.
Fine. You write a program that does it then. Legacy doesn't and the
Legacy staff don't want to change it. That's fair enough: it's their
program and they can do
TH wrote
I'm not sure if Legacy included these marriage status choices or if
they imported from Family Tree Make, but I would appreciate someone
clearly defining what the intended use is and would appreciate some
examples for the use of each to be cited:
Friends
Partners
Unmarried
I don't
I downloaded the gedcom from Ancestry.com. Tracing thru the tree On the
ancestry site was going to be extremely time-consuming and tedious since the
gedcom itself ends up being 16Mb so I downloaded the entire gedcom thinking
that viewing it in Legacy would be much easier.
I will likely eventually
My event for jail is simply called jail.
The sentence that it generates is...
[HeShe] was incarcerated at [Desc], [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]
My moonshie event reads
[HeShe] was a moonshiner [onDate] [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes]
I usually on the jail event use the Between Jan 1, 1920
I don't know what you mean by 'croaks' but I believe that Legacy has
at least two problems with importing Gedcoms. I reported the first
problem back in May and I was sent an email from Brian at Support to
say the bug had been listed to be fixed. As at today it hasn't. This
problem related to the fa
Arnie,
This is the kind of message that gets our serious requests swept under
the rug and our voices silenced. This is not the type of mature
discussion that I am trying to foster on how to enter these
relationships into Legacy where it reflects correctly on our reports.
If you can't partic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not a question of legacy respecting the traditionall family. It
is, rather, a question of Legacy dis-respecting the non-traditional
family.
The "traditional family" doesn't even represent a majority of families
in the USA anymore - just check the latest reports
John...
I have one foot in the door with FTM2008 and you might want to take
another look when the finalize Service Pack 1. They will have some
wonderful reports there... all the ones from FTM2006/V16 and some new
very nice ones.
They will also have a better share information function where
Thanks Allen for those thoughts, I'm still new to researching family
history and haven't checked court information yet. I have seen a news
clipping of one court appearance for my family members on sly grogging
charges, a similar type of thing to running moonshine in Australia.
So I'll keep your em
Thanks for the thoughts, I'll play with different variations. I
vaguely remember that when I used a ? right next to a date, in reports
the date was listed as unknown. I now try to at least have
"space(?)" after questionable dates, this doesn't seem to mess up date
calculations in reports. It als
Physical Description might be a good event to record the height, build, eye
color, hair color - all that are found recorded in the World War I Draft
Registrations.
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From: "Tracy Skegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [
You could use Occupation for moonshiner since that's probably how he made his
living. ;-)
- Original Message -
From: Allen Prunty
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unique Events you have made
My event fo
The FTM 2008 Preview I worked with looked nice but was far from robust and
certainly lacked a lot of reporting functionality.
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen
Prunty
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 09:40
To
I have added events for "Land - Sold", "Land - Inherited" , "Land - Sold"
and others so I could have the sentences worded how I wanted them, instead
of trying to find another record where someone inherited land to see how I
worded that "sentence override".
Also added various military events
I just added an event called "Year Event". Currently, I am using this for
things of interest I have found for specific years. These are timeline type
events, that I thought were interesting or fun, and wanted them in each
report I do for the records to which I have attached them, without having
The company blog doesn't promise much more in its upcoming much
bally-hooed update.
It can be found at
http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2007/09/28/welcome-to-the-new-family-tree-maker-blog/
I am anxiously awaiting the Legacy 7 update to make some real comparisons.
Jackie
--
C.G. Ouimet
Hi Thad,
Partners & Unmarried are not Legacy originated. Annulled, Common Law,
Divorced, Married, Other, Separated, Unmarried are Legacy original.
There should be no problem using self created statuses.
--
Richard Van Wasshnova
Seal Beach, CA
- Original Message -
From: "TH" <[EMAIL
And by the way, for those who like small downloads, that FTM 2008 Preview
(Beta RC1) was a 175Mb download; that's one hundred and seventy five
megabytes!
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jackie King
Sent: Sunday
I've held my tongue long enough. I mostly just lurk in this group and don't
send messages. It's plain there are a lot of people who want a genealogy
program that allows same sex marriages. It's plain there are a lot of
people, including the folks who made Legacy, who don't want this to happen.
I l
George,
We ARE interested intalking about the program features. The people asking
about way to deal with same-sex marriages aren't the one who are being rude.
I've had people be rude to me for answering a question about supplies needed
to use the Legacy document filing system. I've never seen a u
Thanks George,
I pretty much agree with what you've said. The problem with their leaving
and unsubscribing is that 1) Legacy is such a wonderful program, and 2) this
user group has no equal in the geanealogy business. I've seen the other
software UGs and most of them have little or no action at
Thanks for the warning about GEDCOMs not importing correctly even if they
look like they have.
With Error #6, I am given 3 choices: Retry Yes, Retry No, Quit. Retry Yes
and No seem to not make any difference at all (I got tired of clicking No
after 100 clicks). Clicking Quit closes Legacy comple
Are other who are interested in being able to discuss solutions to the
same-sex marriage issue receiving the private vulgar e-mail from azrider as
I have ?
--
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Please delete. This is a test.
I have received several empty emails from the LUG this morning.
David
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That's some very interesting information, Sharon. I would love to have info
like that in the form that you displayed here. I have Personal Historian
but its information is not as broad as what you've shown.
Thanks,
Jim
On 10/7/07, Sharon Perdue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just added an e
Legacy has provided them with the means to record anythingthere little hearts
desire.
All they have to do is define an "event" and add that to the person's record
and that info will be carried forward.
Jim Hills
Jim Keener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks George,
I pre
Geez people.GIVE IT A REST!!
I was in the process of composing my comments when the following two
postings showed up on the list. I agree with both. Like George, I'm
pretty much one to just lurk, making few comments, occasionally asking
for help. But this whole train of thought is getting tir
I don't understand this constant repetition and
carping either.
Those who are unhappy should vote with their feet.
This is a damn computer program, not a social
program.
Elaine
> I've held my tongue long enough. I mostly just
> lurk in this group and don't
> send messages. It's plain there are
Well, glory. Thanks Elaine,
Jim
On 10/7/07, ETM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't understand this constant repetition and
> carping either.
>
> Those who are unhappy should vote with their feet.
>
> This is a damn computer program, not a social
> program.
>
> Elaine
>
>
> > I've held my to
I didn't receive anything from azrider, but I've only been lurking on
this subject. I am interested in recording whatever is and was, not
passing judgement on it. Programing changes aside, perhaps a Legacy
upgrade could include workaround suggestions in the help file for those
who wish to inc
I have not received anything from azrider. Because the mail for
the same sex issue has blown way out of proportion I have usually
been deleting those and not reading them (but I always check the
sender first); some writers I read and some I don't.
Myrna
from sunny warm Mexico
Legacy User Gr
For help with "non-traditional families," please see the article "Adding
Multiple Parents and Single Parents in Legacy" at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsMultiple-SingleParents.asp. This article
has been available here for two or three years.
No disrespect intended, but you don't seem to hav
Hmmm. I find that oftentimes the info may be available, but not under
the search terms that I am using. I looked in the help file for: same
sex, gender, homosexual, gay, lesbian, partner, significant other and
came up empty as did searches for foster and guardian. The article
below helps wi
Elaine, That's what I thought too...
Art Seddon
- Original Message -
From: ETM
To: legacyusergroup
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriages - Enough Already!
I don't understand this constant repetition and
carping either.
Those who are unhapp
I got the info about the Edsel ad from The Red Cloud Chief (Red Cloud,
Nebraska) newspaper - they have a column called "Down Thru The Years" where
they go back to the old newspapers and print items from them each week.
I got the 1904 data in an e-mail. I just now googled 1904 statistics and fou
Thank you, I have been deleting all of the messages with this subject as I
am not interested in this debate. This is not the place for this and I agree
100% with George Quinn. Time to get back to Legacy and what it can do and how
to use the program.
Bill Runolfson
In a message dated 10/7
Bill, if you hadn't deleted the e-mails, you might have noticed that people
were raising questions about how to use the program. The fact that you're
not interested in the subject they were trying to deal with doesn't mean
that other aren't. You're very mistakenly assuming that people interested in
Dawn,
I understand your frustration. Unfortunately, not everything about using
Legacy is included in program's Help file. We have several "Tips from the
Experts" web pages listed at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tips.asp. You
can get to these quickly in Legacy 6.0 by clicking on the Legacy Home
I have found that the court records (most of my family was from a VERY
small town in Tennessee), especially the transcripts of the case, told
me more about who my ancestors really were.
I have a gggreat uncle who had 22 "bastard-court" trials and I am afraid
I'm going to find more. Seems like
I have just a little inside information on this one. They are planning
all kinds of unique and interesting plugins... that product is still in
it's infancy. They really should have renamed it... as it is nothing
like the FTM of old.
However I am probably going to wait for Legacy 7... the mod
The kid down the street just had a sex-change operation, so he has gone
from male to female. THAT will be a very interesting work-around to get
him entered in a genealogy program.
Elizabeth C
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Hi John,
Yes the Copy to Clipboard option is pretty useless I think because it
copies as a graphic. However, it's not so hard to coy and paste a
report. You just have to choose the right format.
Do you mean the Descendant Chart report or the Descendant Book report
or the Descendant Narrative
That included the place authority database for the United states.
Legacy is no small download either when you factor in the place
databases for it. I will say that Legacy's place databases and county
verification can not be matched by ANY other genealogy program out there.
Allen
C.G. Ouimet
Hi Elizabeth,
I think that this issue, which isn't uncommon, is of the same nature
as to whether to record the birth name or adopted name as the main
name of someone.
Just as people vary on that decision, depending on individual
circumstances and whether their main interest is the birth fami
It will be more interesting if he has fathered a child or more.
Jim H.
Elizabeth Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The kid down the street just had a sex-change operation, so he has gone
from male to female. THAT will be a very interesting work-around to get
him entered in a genealog
Perhaps those of us who want to have a constructive and adult discussion
about the functionality of Legacy could finish the thread and resolve it
if wanna-be moderators would just allow it. The official moderator has
stated that if we can keep it on topic and task we can have this
discussion.
Thank you Jim... I never knew about this one... it is hard to find this
information on your website and I find it often cryptic.
Now my question is (as my GGG Uncle that really got around the town) has
many relationships recorded as children there are descriptors like
"spouse" we could change
When did they say it was ok to continue the discussion?Everything I've
seen from them said to leave the whole subject alone.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen
Prunty
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legac
The kid down the street just had a sex-change operation, so he has gone
from male to female. THAT will be a very interesting work-around to get
him entered in a genealogy program.
Elizabeth C
>
It will be more interesting if he has fathered a child or more.
Jim H.
Same thing in my fa
I could not agree more hat we should ask OURSELVES this question, not
everyone on the list. Everyone can RECORD WHAT THEY WANT (within the
capabilities of Legacy) be it genealogy, family history or bits and pieces
of information.
And, by the way, your message was sent in .html
- Origin
Allen, re your subject, I have several children in my family tree of the
same situation. As the core of my relations are British, I can tell you that
on the official birth certs they are marked "Illegitimate" I know that this
may be now an out of date use of language given modern families, but it w
Well, I guess that settle that. No need for the user group if WE should just
RECORD WHAT WE WANT.
On 10/7/07, Roger Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I could not agree more hat we should ask OURSELVES this question, not
> everyone on the list. Everyone can RECORD WHAT THEY WANT (within the
> c
What about people who mate with animals or people who have alien DNA -- like
aliens from outer space? Or how about people how are cloned? We haven't even
begun to argue about how Legacy discriminates against those people!
George Quinn
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Allen
I simply use the expression "fathered a child with" if I don't know the
nature of the relationship. I use the words Male and Female, master and
housekeeper or Partner instead of spouse. I also check the box, top left
"this couple never married", then check how it reads in all the reports
(ju
Hi Allen,
The only term that comes quickly to mind for the situation you
outline is "Stallion" ;-)
How you'd describe the many women who were taken in by him in a small
place is more difficult - or was he the rich man in the area and they
were constrained?
Returning to the practicalities in
Allen,
The Brits used to call children born out of wedlock, "Natural" children,
though I doubt there are many people who would relate to the term in
other parts of the world. In the U.S. there is some use of the term,
"Love Child," but that hardly applies to all cases. I wonder why you
feel
Richard:
My U.S. birth certificate states that I am illegitimate. My parents were
not married, and my mother was told she could not list my birth father even
though he admitted paternity (South Dakota). That was some time ago. I
have seen a great many birth certificates (California and Iowa
Note that I don't have the answers to all the questions posed here - I'm
posting them in response to comments from people who appear to have just
enough programming knowledge/experience to sound arrogant (if you've been
insulted, stop reading now - but that's how I see it).
Unless your programming
The term used today by most is "natural". "She had a natural child by
Mr.X"
Lothario is a good word to use for your GGG uncle, or Don Juan, or
Casanova.
-Original Message-
From: Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 6:29 pm
Thank you for this.
Jess M
--- John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found copies of GEDSplit, GEDLiving95 (to remove
> details on living
> people), and Gedcaps95 (to change capitalization)
> tucked away in a far
> corner of my hard drive.
>
> These programs are all shareware by Randy Winc
The official documents sometimes tell you more than you want to know about
your ancestors - such as someone was born in March before her parents
married in October.
Now I know why her parents never celebrated a wedding anniversary...
John
> It seems that the more you shake the family tree the mo
There will always be a need for a usergroup... I have learned a lot just
by reading what others have asked... I know my questions are probably
some sensitive ones... but I'm starting to dig all the skeletons out of
the closet.
I just found one ancestor who was a slave owner and fathered childr
You are correct. I looked at the help file article of the same name.
It omits the last sentence of the first paragraph of the website
article. I was unaware of those articles. I like the screenprints that
are included on the website version, but not in the help file article.
Dawn
Jim Ter
Dave wrote:
When did they say it was ok to continue the discussion?Everything I've
seen from them said to leave the whole subject alone.
==
Dave,
Sherry clearly states that if we can discuss it with keeping our
personal beliefs there would be no problem. I am suspending my person
This I can solve with a bit of logic... a fact that they transgendered
would probably be appropriate in this matter. The bottom line is their
DNA will always show their birth gender no matter.
#1. They are sterile so if they previously had children they won't be
able to have them now.. perha
Interesting you should raise the subject. I've been wondering about handling
of a similar difficulty in my tree that is even more complicated.
One of my distant cousins was determined to be a male at birth. This was
done in the usual manner -- a slap on the bottom, count the toes and
fingers, and
I think I would just list the transgendering as a
fact and correct the gender in the record.
Elaine
Take nothing but ancestors, leave nothing
but records.
Hello Elizabeth
On Sunday, October 7, 2007, you wrote
> The kid down the street just had a sex-change
> operation, so he has gone
> from m
Many of the reports can be sent to a text file, which can be opened in
Notepad to do simple copy & paste.
In Legacy Deluxe Version 6.0.0.155, the Descendant Chart has the Text File
option.
John
>
>
> One of the many reasons I changed from FTM was the reason that I had lost
> most of the simple c
Well he did own the first electric power generator in the town ... so he
had the money.
I'm using the ancestor report... in paragraph format.
Allen
Cathy wrote:
Hi Allen,
The only term that comes quickly to mind for the situation you outline
is "Stallion" ;-)
How you'd describe the many wom
Allen Prunty wrote:
I know that the legal term for the child is Bastard... is there a nicer
term for that?
In tracing back in one family line, I was told that the man and woman were
not married.
Then I was told that a record of their marriage could not be found in S. C.
However, they lived on
George Quinn wrote:
What about people who mate with animals or people who have alien DNA
-- like aliens from outer space? Or how about people how are cloned?
We haven't even begun to argue about how Legacy discriminates against
those people!
Well I don't believe in aliens and I doubt cloning wi
I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my
-Grandfather. How would I properly source this?
Allen
Bible Records
FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD
(Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919
and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and
is buried
Allen,
While there are several countries that have laws against using
government funds on cloning I think you'lll find far fewer that
actually have laws making it completely illegal.
-Original Message-
From: Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
S
I know what you mean... my other grandparents told everyone that they
met in college...
sure enough they met in college... I wrote the university with copies of
their death certificates and told them i was doing family research and
wanted to know if they had records of them in college. Sure e
So when I take the time to tag children as biological and natural am I
saying that they are actually illegitimate?
I've been tagging everyone that I know was born biologically to parents
as this in my tree.
There's so many bells and whistles and all I want to do is accurately
record everythi
Allen,
I think the fact that each of us may have relatives of a different
race may be coming
to the fore front more and more. On 60 minutes tonight a segment was on DNA and
the two individuals that found each other as cousins were; a female
from Harlem, New York and a rancher from Poplar Bluff, Mi
Of course assuming that none of those people are the same people
(pedigree collapse which eventually happens for everyone at some
point!)
One of my friends when I was a teenager genealogist was also a
teenager genealogist (how rare is that!) - and of her 8
great-grand-parents. 3 of her g
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