On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:34:12 -0700 - Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote the following
Re: Re: spam issues
>On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:15:17PM -0600, collins wrote:
>...
>>Unfortunately it's not comcast that will eat the bounces. In order to
>>get broadband service (DSL is not offered), I ha
Andrew Mathews wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
collins wrote:
| Matthew Carpenter wrote:
|
|> I'm not sure how it works with other MTA's, but my Sendmail servers
all
|> include information on which BL they were blocked by and a URL to
|> visit in
|> order to get removed when
I have followed this thread with interest and as far as I am concerned the only way to
get people to notice is to hurt their pocket book. I am not sure how to best go about
doing this except for refusing to use ISP's that are tolerant of Spammers.
Blocking domains doesn't really work. One of my
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
collins wrote:
| Matthew Carpenter wrote:
|
|> I'm not sure how it works with other MTA's, but my Sendmail servers all
|> include information on which BL they were blocked by and a URL to
|> visit in
|> order to get removed when their system is fixed.
|
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:59:01 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
professed:
> Oh, we are getting nasty. VB and Fosters ?? is the Queensland beer.
Come now Skippy. You know as well as I thats its because
Queenslanders can't spell S#!T
Shawn
_
On 30 Jul 2003 19:20:48 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed:
> IMHO, VB would be better.
Cascade is my choice.
___
Linux-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linu
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:41:31PM -0600, collins wrote:
>Matthew Carpenter wrote:
>
>>I'm not sure how it works with other MTA's, but my Sendmail servers all
>>include information on which BL they were blocked by and a URL to visit in
>>order to get removed when their system is fixed.
Postfix mak
Matthew Carpenter wrote:
I'm not sure how it works with other MTA's, but my Sendmail servers all
include information on which BL they were blocked by and a URL to visit in
order to get removed when their system is fixed.
Yeah, except that I'm the one having his mail blocked and I have no way
t
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:15:17PM -0600, collins wrote:
...
>Unfortunately it's not comcast that will eat the bounces. In order to
>get broadband service (DSL is not offered), I have to use comcast.net (I
>don't know anything about comcast.com), and since people are so friendly
>about bulk blo
Net Llama! wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking:
We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in
starting such a project unless:
0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute
1) All of those peop
Matthew Carpenter wrote:
Using the appropriate RBL's can lead to a drop in 95% of all spam, and I have
yet to hear complaints.
Probably no complaints because you aren't really affected by the action
of the RBLs. If everyone used them, I would see a 95% reduction of my
personal email (not sp
4. IBM exec: 'Forces' at work against Linux
A "set of forces" is attempting to derail Linux, a Big Blue
exec tells conference-goers, hinting that Microsoft and SCO
Group are among those responsible.
Wed Jul 30 12:57:00 PDT 2003
http://ct.com.com/click?q=00-4FQlI9QgB2TqEN9cw4iQHPpBYh4R
--
Powere
ronnie gauthier wrote:
I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do?
I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could kill
spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and blocked
them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail t
Tony Alfrey wrote:
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:59 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
> > > A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian
> > > Competition and Consumer Comm
i could have sworn i read something like this on linux and main awhile
back . . .
http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5057840.html?tag=fd_top
An IBM executive has claimed that a "set of forces" is attempting to
derail Linux, and hinted that Microsoft and SCO Group are among those
responsible.
Al
Tony Alfrey wrote:
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:59 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian
Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO'
Doug, Skippy
I am in school & finally in last year, 5 classes left, I would like to join in
an adventure like this. I still like the old Calder 2.4 system & some of the
3.1.1 too. I am an experinced developer, but never on a system lke this. There
are some thing I would like to see too. It will
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:00:44 -0600 - Andrew Mathews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following
Re: Re: spam issues
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>Hash: SHA1
>
>ronnie gauthier wrote:
>| I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do?
>| I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follo
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:46:40 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
the following
Re: Re: spam issues
Its been a few years since I dealt with being blocked and have hated and not
used RBL's since then. I'll have to take another look at them again now.
thanks!
>Using the appropriate R
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:57:47 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
the following
Re: Re: spam issues
I agree with you in theory but all RBL's are not equal. But what I've seen is
that once on one its a bitch to get unlisted. They also get legitimate web sites
in the same block as the
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:47:51 -0500 - "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
the following
Re: Re: spam issues
Go get 'em.
>
>As an ISP, I'm striking back locally.
>
>I own my netblocks. I have my sights on a local spammer. I've now
>billed them 2 months for using my servers and my bandwidt
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:59 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
> > > A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian
> > > Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's
>
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:48 am, Net Llama! wrote:
> Indeed. I've got lots of ideas, but i don't have the time or skillz to do
> it solo.
Ummm, just as a test case, are there people out there interested enough to
get involved, as advisors and ideas men plus wall bouncers .
WARNING, this could be a
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:39 am, Net Llama! wrote:
> We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in
> starting such a project unless:
> 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute
> 1) All of those people have the time to see it through to completion
>
> I'm quite
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:40 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> true dat. just want to keep reminding people that if they are willing to
> put their money where their mouth is, we can help a lot...
I have all the time needed but not the expertise anymore. The only thing that
I can contribute is time and
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:25 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> Hope it's all working for you. I've been offline for a week so I might
> have missed it, but what's the status of this? Are you able to use both
> machines at the same time?
>
> Matt
Yes Matt, its working fine as soon as I put the router
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
> > A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian
> > Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's
> > attempt to "license" users of the Linux 2.4 kernel.
> > http:/
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:12 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> > Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe
> > dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slac
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:11 am, Net Llama! wrote:
> On 07/29/03 17:49, Keith Antoine wrote:
> > Well at least my computer is stubborn and consistent:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# make gconfig
> > *
> > * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that
> > * the GTK+ 2.0 d
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:47:51 -0500
"David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Next week, I send out a past due
> notice with a note that if they don't pay within a week, I'll start
> court proceedings against them for non-payment. I plan to sequester
> their company as part of the whole thing.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:03:09 -0400
Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From an end user perspective, I've found Mozilla's junk mail
> filtering
> to be fantastic at determining what's junk and what's not. Much better
>
> than plain SpamAssassin. Although, current SpamAssassin is supposed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
ronnie gauthier wrote:
| I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do?
| I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We
could kill
| spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back
and blocked
| them. A while
Fine. But end users won't care, or simply don't understand. I got calls
from irate users, people trying to send my company e-mail, demanding to
know why I was blocking their mail.
1. It wasn't *me* blocking it.
2. They couldn't care in the least why they were blocked.
3. Half of those who *would*
About 2 years ago our state (Arkansas, US) passed "Do Not Call"
legislation with the usual hoopla and moaning from the telemarketing
scum. So I sent $5.00 to our Attorney General to put my numbers on the
list. And my phone has largely gone dead silent except for the few
"exceptions" that were u
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:06:24 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:12 pm, Federico Voges wrote:
>
>
>> If you wan't a Caldera like distro, checkout Lycoris (formerly Redmond
>> Linux). It's based on Caldera's LTP (it even uses Lizard).
>>
>> http://www.lycoris.com/
>>
>> Bye!
>> Fede
That still won't mean anything to the average user out there.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> I'm not sure how it works with other MTA's, but my Sendmail servers all
> include information on which BL they were blocked by and a URL to visit in
> order to get removed when their syst
RBL's are still better than SA or other filters...
Why? Because properly selected RBL's (ie. Deterministic, easy to get off of)
actually allow you to block based on a PROBLEM! RBL's that you want to use
are Open Relay black lists and Dialup server blacklists. These are PROBLEMS
to be FIXED. Th
I'm not sure how it works with other MTA's, but my Sendmail servers all
include information on which BL they were blocked by and a URL to visit in
order to get removed when their system is fixed.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:16:17 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem here is
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> > We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in
> > starting such a project unless:
> > 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute
> > 1) All of those people have t
Using the appropriate RBL's can lead to a drop in 95% of all spam, and I have
yet to hear complaints. The trick is choosing RBL's that are comprehensive,
deterministic, and responsive. This means that some of the RBL's out there
that don't allow your servers off the list when closed just don't fi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in
> starting such a project unless:
> 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute
> 1) All of those people have the time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Roger Oberholtzer shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:34, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> > el lodger shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> > > nodev usbdevfs
> > > nodev usbfs
> >
> > great, thanks! new question: where do th
But don't expect much to work after install... Especially if you use KDE
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:21:33 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never honestly used either, howeer I'd suggest Mandrake for a laptop.
> Its alot more user friendly for getting it installed in a rush.
135 - 139 are NetBIOS, and are to be expected from all Windows boxen. Make
sure you aren't receiving and forwarding any of these from the Internet.
UDP 67 and 68 are the source and destination ports for DHCP communication. Is
your broadband connection on a 10.55.x.x network? Your router seems to
The problem here is that you assume that when people get bounced mail,
they understand why, and attempt to take corrective action. Most people
haven't the foggiest clue what a bounced email means, and will most likely
just delete it and move on. Punishing the innocent isn't going to win a
spam wa
On 7/30/2003 1:55 PM, someone claiming to be ronnie gauthier wrote:
Not exactly, at least thats not how I see it. If enough users of an ISP or
email suppliers complain they are blocked by one, big deal, blocked by dozens,
then it begins to matter and the ISP's must take notice. We as an admin
comm
On 7/30/2003 1:45 PM, someone claiming to be Wil McGilvery wrote:
I would think blocking domains is worse than the RBL lists.
I have started using an email gateway called messagewall.
It has a number of checks included rbl lists, reverse DNS on MX
records and a lot more.
Since implementing this s
Not exactly, at least thats not how I see it. If enough users of an ISP or
email suppliers complain they are blocked by one, big deal, blocked by dozens,
then it begins to matter and the ISP's must take notice. We as an admin
community have done nothing to stop the spam problem. Oh, some filteer, m
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:33:22 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote:
> > I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do?
> > I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We
> > could kill spam in short order. How? I have
I would think blocking domains is worse than the RBL lists.
I have started using an email gateway called messagewall.
It has a number of checks included rbl lists, reverse DNS on MX records and a lot more.
Since implementing this setup our spam has become almost no existent and is no longer
con
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> > Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe
> > dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote:
> I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do?
> I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could kill
> spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and blocked
> them. A while back I had a rash of spam
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:34, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> el lodger shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> > nodev usbdevfs
> > nodev usbfs
>
> great, thanks! new question: where do the above 2 entries get mounted? thanks
For the latter, mount gives:
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (r
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:20, Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
> A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian
> Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's
> attempt to "license" users of the Linux 2.4 kernel.
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7037&mode=thread&order=0
>
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe
> dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on
why is this a pipe dream? almost the whole damn dis
I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do?
I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could kill
spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and blocked
them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail them and
complained heavi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
David A. Bandel shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> Doug, as you should know, this list will be a function of what's
> compiled into the kernel and loaded as modules (the list changes as say
> vfat is loaded then unloaded). Anything you're looking
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> I have DSL, not cable. My bandwidth remains the same regardless of
> what the rest of the planet's idiots are doing.
Not completely true. You have your bandwidth to the other end of the
ATM pipe, regardle
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:15:16AM -0400, dep wrote:
>quoth Net Llama!:
>
>| I have DSL, not cable. My bandwidth remains the same regardless of
>| what the rest of the planet's idiots are doing.
>
>not true. when ie and outlook vulnerabilities are being exploited, which
>is to say all the time, y
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
el lodger shocked and awed us all by speaking:
> nodev usbdevfs
> nodev usbfs
great, thanks! new question: where do the above 2 entries get mounted? thanks
- --
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
http://doug.hunley.
A group in Australia has filed a complaint with the Australian
Competition and Consumer Commission about SCO's
attempt to "license" users of the Linux 2.4 kernel.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7037&mode=thread&order=0
I'm going to salute this initiative with a 1/2 liter can of Fos
Quoth James McDonald:
> Folks,
>
> I managed to get 2.6.0test2 kernel compiled and installed unfortunately
> my old kernel uses *.o.gz modules and the new modutils won't insert them
> so I am stuck with the 2.6 kernel for now.
The new module utilities don't handle compressed kernel modules.
You c
quoth Michael Hipp:
| Just as many suspected, SCO Execs have no more confidence in their
| dreamy lawsuit than any of the rest of us. So they're cashing in on
| the short term bubble it created.
|
| http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5057033.html
even more interesting, to me, is the fact that the bo
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 06:46, James McDonald wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I managed to get 2.6.0test2 kernel compiled and installed unfortunately
> my old kernel uses *.o.gz modules and the new modutils won't insert them
> so I am stuck with the 2.6 kernel for now.
>
> I have network and all my major servi
quoth Net Llama!:
| I have DSL, not cable. My bandwidth remains the same regardless of
| what the rest of the planet's idiots are doing.
not true. when ie and outlook vulnerabilities are being exploited, which
is to say all the time, you're being hindered along the line, even if
you don't see
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, dep wrote:
> quoth Net Llama!:
> | On 07/29/03 19:29, Joel Hammer wrote:
> | > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3107613.stm
> | >
> | > It never stops.
> |
> | that's strange, it never started for me. then again, i don't use M$
> | products.
>
> ah, but that scarcely matt
Thanks for the link...
and yes google is becoming more a friend than an acquaintance
Cheers
James
___
Linux-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Just as many suspected, SCO Execs have no more confidence in their
dreamy lawsuit than any of the rest of us. So they're cashing in on the
short term bubble it created.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5057033.html
Michael
___
Linux-users mailing lis
Folks,
I managed to get 2.6.0test2 kernel compiled and installed unfortunately
my old kernel uses *.o.gz modules and the new modutils won't insert them
so I am stuck with the 2.6 kernel for now.
I have network and all my major services that I need but I'm lacking a
nv driver the NVIDIA site doesn
Having tried elx (not bad) in the past, I was intrigued to see this review:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT4462149560.html
Typically we are converting 200-300 corporate/institutional desktops a
month to ELX. And, these numbers are growing rapidly.
That's a helluva lot of new linux custo
Folks,
I have downloaded compiled and installed the 2.6.0test2 kernel and after
the initial drama of trying to get the "make gconfig" to work it all
compiled rather ok (nice non-noisy way they do it now too).
However I need the nvidia.o driver to run my graphics card and it
doesn't appear to e
Keith Antoine wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:40 pm, James McDonald wrote:
James:
Well !
When you run each of the three pkg-config commands below you have to run
echo $? to see the result because it just returns 0 for yes the package
is install or 1 no it's not. You wont see any outp
quoth Net Llama!:
| On 07/29/03 19:29, Joel Hammer wrote:
| > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3107613.stm
| >
| > It never stops.
|
| that's strange, it never started for me. then again, i don't use M$
| products.
ah, but that scarcely matters. for instance, there's no mshit running
here,
Keith Antoine wrote:
I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe,
If you want a good community supported distro (great mailing list and
web forum; extremely responsive customer service) that's easy to install
and very functional, and if you don't have an objection to Debia
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 11:04 pm, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel
wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:49:27 +1000
> Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any
> > others as I know little re the rest. However feedba
I think the job title 'technology managers' should be clarified to
be 'technology mis-managers' - after all, they are the ones that let
companies use the software that allows such security problems in the
first place. But, I guess they are powerless against those evil
virus guys. Maybe MS can get B
76 matches
Mail list logo
