Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:36:40 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | | Joel Hammer wrote: | | > You are right about that. Nations have avoided declaring war in the last 50 | > years. Strange. I guess they want to save paperwork. | > However, FDR, without the consent of Congress, an

Re: My Sentiments on the WTC attack

2001-09-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:35:47 -0400 Tom Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >>On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:49:30AM -0500, Bill Day wrote: | > > | > > | > >Just so you know the "A.G." for respectives states has been | > advised by the | > >U.S. A.G. to investigate the price gougings, which I'm sorr

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd
There is at least one more airline who employs 2 secret agents on every flight to ensure the plane is not hijecked.   Auyeung   - Original Message - 寄件者: Net Llama 收件者: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 傳送日期: 2001年9月14日 AM 10:57 主旨: Re: New York WTC --- Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Chang
You forgot the freedom of being trapped by debris and burnt to death > >Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedommay find one day their >personal choices reduced to burning to death or jumping 80 stories. >Joel > > > >___ >http://linux.nf

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Scott Thornley
Lonni, I don not have the words to adequately express this, but Ian Frazier (Frasier ?) in his book "On the Rez" points out that one of the significant differences between modern "Indian" culture, and mainstream America, is there reverence for warriors. I too would disagree with Yoda, and

RE: New York WTC: Not more guns

2001-09-13 Thread Shane Broomhall
Please consider the following, Out of the people that you would want to carry weapons, how would you decide who should. Out of those allowed to carry weapons, would you brief them to allow for them to know when they are allowed to draw their weapons. Of those allowed to carry weapons, how would

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Bruce Marshall wrote: > It would be great if they allowed people with carry permits to carry weapons > on board with prior notification. I think they should do the same for > teachers with permits with proper storage of the weapon. Sure would have > saved some lives in the past. Let us NOT

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Joel Hammer wrote: > > those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedoms will happily > > point out to you that, as has been the case on the lirr and elsewhere > > in the past, one good man with a gun would have solved the problem > > with considerably less loss of life. > > -- > I agree

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Andrew Mathews wrote: > I believe it bears noting that those of us who have served our country > and seen blood spilled have a different perspective on the "proper" way > of dealing with these incidents. I never want to see some things again, > but nonetheless, realize that it's necessary. We'r

Re: Video Viewing program

2001-09-13 Thread David Aikema
On September 13, 2001 06:36 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 9:22 am, N7LQ wrote: > > One little problem I have been running into lately is an inability to > > watch many of the video files that are floating around the net about the > > WTC crash. Is there an application

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Oh dear! We are in chaos at the moment in that next to Qantas, Ansett our big internal and NZ air carrier has just gone belly up, 16000 lost jobs. There are rallies on all over plus Sydney airport has gone on strike. The workers entitlements up about 4.5mill look bad. So now we are shut down ai

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 13 September 2001 03:42 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: > Tony, > if you su in and do a updatedb it rebuilds the database. > Thanks! Another trick for my "linux techniques" list. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ http:/

Re: VOip?

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:27:14AM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: >Say group, > > >Has anyone here implemented voice over ip? I've been asked to look into it and >from what I can tell it's a badwidth killer. I just ran across this today while looking for the demoroniser script that cleans up Micro$o

Re: A little (n)etiquette people.

2001-09-13 Thread Ian Marchak
Chang wrote: > > to highlight the rest of the messaeg startign at cursor position (ie, > trimming quotes), > I usually hold SHIFT, then END. It works perfectly in netscape 4.78, > not in mozilla, though. I was considering to send a bugzilla report. > > >>if you use mozilla, you might have a litt

Re: wtc2.org?

2001-09-13 Thread Ian Marchak
Chang wrote: > > if terrorists were after symbolism, they would have chosen the statue > of libery. > > >>will be years before the current mess is cleaned up... I know > >>it would take > >>like 10 years before the building would open... but wouldn't > >>it be cool? > >> > >Nah. Cool would be

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:41 pm, dep wrote: > | If there were 3 or 4 crazies, the pilots would probably have to > | shoot through 3 or 4 hostages in order to kill the crazies.   Might > | be a necessary trade-off but still not a nice situation. > > in all known experience, people who want t

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Net Llama
--- Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:06 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:53:05PM -0400, dep wrote: > > > On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote: > > > | Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may fin

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Ralph Sanford
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:06:42 -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: >On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:53:05PM -0400, dep wrote: >> On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote: >> >> | Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find >> | one day their personal choices reduced to burning

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread dep
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:30, Bruce Marshall wrote: | > I agree. Why they don't arm the pilots is beyond me. | > Joel | | Good thought but I think the problem is that they would have a | dillemma if some crazies are banging on the cockpit door while they | hold a knife to one or more stews

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:06 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:53:05PM -0400, dep wrote: > > On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote: > > | Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find > > | one day their personal choices reduced to burni

Re: Setting up a company security policy?

2001-09-13 Thread Jack Berger
Have you tried www.sans.org? More than you'll ever be able to digest resides there. -jhb- On Wednesday 12 September 2001 20:13 pm, JW wrote: > I am try to write up a company security policy that I can submit to my boss > in hope of having it actually become policy. We are a very small co and up

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 10:17:04AM -0400, Lee wrote: > Lo Viksten wrote: > > > torsdagen den 13 september 2001 13.09 wrote Joel Hammer: > > > > > If Sweden didn't want to fight the Nazis, why should we? > > > > Sweden was surounded by the Nazis. Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic states > > and

Re: VOip?

2001-09-13 Thread Jerry McBride
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:46:55 +0800 "Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several years ago I played with the Internet Phone software, using simple duplex sound cards. Not exactly the same VOip of today. It was also a bandwidth killer, but then the connection to

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
> > | Luke: But he was a great warrior! > > | Yoda: Wars do not make one great. > > > > yoda is, um, a character in a movie. > > So? Does that make the words less relevant? > Well, Luke didn't say he became great because of war. Maybe Luke said he was great because he won without fighting.

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Sivernell
Semper Fi -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User         .~.        / v \       /( _ )\         ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] A

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread dep
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:01, Net Llama wrote: | --- dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote: | > | I believe Yoda put this quite well: | > | Luke: But he was a great warrior! | > | Yoda: Wars do not make one great. | > | > yoda is, um, a ch

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:47:41PM -0400, dep wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote: > > | I believe Yoda put this quite well: > | Luke: But he was a great warrior! > | Yoda: Wars do not make one great. > > yoda is, um, a character in a movie. > > lenin put it a little

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:53:05PM -0400, dep wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote: > > | Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find > | one day their personal choices reduced to burning to death or > | jumping 80 stories. Joel > > those who cry o

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Net Llama
--- dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote: > > | I believe Yoda put this quite well: > | Luke: But he was a great warrior! > | Yoda: Wars do not make one great. > > yoda is, um, a character in a movie. So? Does that make the words less relevan

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
Some people seem to think that we people of good intentions should not over react to the actions of a few extremists. I would remind you that many years ago, when the first passenger jet plane was hijacked, it was flown to the desert, I think Libya, and destroyed. I will never forget how shocked t

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread dep
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote: | Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find | one day their personal choices reduced to burning to death or | jumping 80 stories. Joel those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedoms will happily point out t

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread dep
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote: | I believe Yoda put this quite well: | Luke: But he was a great warrior! | Yoda: Wars do not make one great. yoda is, um, a character in a movie. lenin put it a little differently: "you may not be interested in war, but war is interested

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Net Llama
--- Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now a good war was in 1848 (or there abouts) with Mexico, since we > got > > California (since reclaimed) and Texas (oil) from Mexico. However, > even that > > victory was tainted according to US Grant, since he claimed in his > > autobiography tha

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Andrew Mathews
Keith Antoine wrote: > Rick, > > Yes you are totally correct, I am sorry to say. However on a different note I feel > differently to all of the users of this list than I had previously. There are many >of you that I > guess you could say 'I Love', being careful that the correct connotation of l

Re: I am proud to say

2001-09-13 Thread burns
On September 13, 2001 03:41 am, Keith Antoine wrote: > They have also tried to donate > blood by flooding into the red cross donor centres, however blood itself > cannot be sent for some reason. The recipients might turn into Aussies. > It's the content - Oz blood is flammable. -- burns __

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread burns
On September 13, 2001 07:37 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > occurred at Munich. There Hitler got want he wanted, the There is a well-established rule in these types of discussions that has stood the test of time and become integral to Netiquette... Once a thread focuses on a discussion of Hitler, it

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:05:26 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rick Sivernell wrote: > > > Skippy > > > > Some just do not get it. There is no sense in arguing with them. > > All we can do is smile & shake our heads. Hope the never find out > for real. > > > > cheers my fr

Re: A little (n)etiquette people.

2001-09-13 Thread Chang
to highlight the rest of the messaeg startign at cursor position (ie, trimming quotes), I usually hold SHIFT, then END. It works perfectly in netscape 4.78, not in mozilla, though. I was considering to send a bugzilla report. >>if you use mozilla, you might have a little problem. >>you cannot pr

[OT] Re: four more

2001-09-13 Thread Chang
why would they do that? that's way too silly as a sober terrorist... :) >four diaperheads dressed as american airlines pilots have been >arrested at jfk airport in the last hour. new york area airports >remain closed and airspace is a shootdown no-fly zone. >

Re: connect to a process

2001-09-13 Thread Chang
I got that. Hhow could I switch screens without using the command prompt? something like ALT-ESC would be nice. but over a ssh client... possible? > >ssh user@remotehost. >run screen. >setup 1 or more windows (connections, sessions, whateveryou want to call >them). >if you're disconnected. reco

Re: wtc2.org?

2001-09-13 Thread Chang
if terrorists were after symbolism, they would have chosen the statue of libery. >>will be years before the current mess is cleaned up... I know >>it would take >>like 10 years before the building would open... but wouldn't >>it be cool? >> >Nah. Cool would be to create a huge (life size) h

Re: Red Cross needs tech help!

2001-09-13 Thread Chang
It's allabout micro$oft ... too bad. why didn't they just fire up some old dos Foxpro applications with Netware? simple and effective. > >* 50 Citrix client licenses >* 50 Microsoft Exchange CALs >* 35 Microsoft SQL CALs >* 50 Microsoft Office Professional licenses > __

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Sivernell
Skippy The news here is showing support from around the world, we have friends everywhere. Thanks I understand skippy. On a nicer note, our air miles have gone over the 100k mark. We are getting closer to that time when we may be able to make our trip to land of Kangaroos. Just can hardly

Re: Speak Freely voice over IP

2001-09-13 Thread Scott Thornley
I used it on NT, but that was 2-3 years ago. It was also over a 24K dial-up connection, so there was a lot of jitter/packet loss. However, at the time, it was the best free VOIP program I could find. Much better than freetel, which was the other popular choice at the time. I liked the vast ra

Re: Speak Freely voice over IP

2001-09-13 Thread Douglas J. Hunley
On Thursday 13 September 2001 19:49, Bill Campbell babbled: > Can we talk a bit of Linux here? > this isn't a political list? ;) > Has anybody on the list used Speak Freely? It seems to offer some very > interesting capabilities including fully encrypted and compressed voice > over IP. I've be

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Rick Sivernell wrote: > Skippy > > Some just do not get it. There is no sense in arguing with them. > All we can do is smile & shake our heads. Hope the never find out for real. > > cheers my friend Rick, Yes you are totally correct, I am sorry to say. However on a different note I feel dif

Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Glenn Williams wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote: > > [snip] > > Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan. > > After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans was > > joy that the war was over. > > If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were N

Re: A good report from Canada

2001-09-13 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:32:34 -0400 burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On September 12, 2001 07:19 pm, JW wrote: > > > Ok.. that's over done, but I really do appreciate at least this > man, and > > would love to find that many of his fellow citizens think > likewise. > > I live in Ottawa, Canada

Speak Freely voice over IP

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
Can we talk a bit of Linux here? Has anybody on the list used Speak Freely? It seems to offer some very interesting capabilities including fully encrypted and compressed voice over IP. I stumbled across http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/unix/ while looking for the demoroniser software, http://w

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
> > No you are correct it started long before. England and france were far to complacent > and wanted to appease instead of doing. It wasn't just England and France. I have a first hand account by the English Ambassador at Munich. The great appeasement occurred at Munich. There Hitler got want h

correction

2001-09-13 Thread dep
re. previous, four diaperheads posing as pilots: three at jfk, four at laguardia, an unspecified number in newark. all with forged documents. -- dep one day, you'll wish it was now. your wish has been granted. don't waste it. ___ http://linux.nf --

four more

2001-09-13 Thread dep
four diaperheads dressed as american airlines pilots have been arrested at jfk airport in the last hour. new york area airports remain closed and airspace is a shootdown no-fly zone. these guys seem *really* to want to become part of an experiment in nuclear physics -- whether sand really *doe

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Sivernell
Skippy Some just do not get it. There is no sense in arguing with them. All we can do is smile & shake our heads. Hope the never find out for real. cheers my friend -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Tony, if you su in and do a updatedb it rebuilds the database. Tony Alfrey wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm having increasingly annoying issues with SuSE 7.2. I have two > other linux partitions on the same box. Whn I use the > "locate " command, it proceeds to list all files with , > but also those

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
Joel Hammer wrote: > You are right about that. Nations have avoided declaring war in the last 50 > years. Strange. I guess they want to save paperwork. > However, FDR, without the consent of Congress, and in fact in opposition to > Congress and the majority of the American people, engaged in a

RE: wtc2.org?

2001-09-13 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Douglas, > what I want to know, who's willing to put together a > contribution site for > the rebuilding of the WTC? I know, skyscrapers are > impractical. I know it > will be years before the current mess is cleaned up... I know > it would take > like 10 years before the building would op

Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-13 Thread Glenn Williams
On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote: [snip] Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan. > After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans was > joy that the war was over. If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were NOT paying attention. With indignation,

Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 05:49:33PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: >I forgot to mention. The Japanese still view Pearl Harbor as a victory. FDR probably did as well since it finally go the U.S. into the war on the side of Britain, which he had been trying to do for several years (highly illegally I mig

Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
I forgot to mention. The Japanese still view Pearl Harbor as a victory. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: scripting/sed help

2001-09-13 Thread Douglas J. Hunley
On Thursday 13 September 2001 17:03, Bill Campbell babbled: > You need to use double quotes around the variables you need to > expand. Something like this: > sed 's/xxx'"$i"'/yyy'"$j"'/' > > Be very careful matching the single quotes (perl is a lot easier > for this type of thing). > dank

Re: scripting/sed help

2001-09-13 Thread Gordon McCrae
Actually no, it works fine. I tried it out with some examples before suggesting it as a solution. Gordon Bill Campbell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Gordon McCrae wrote: > >User Double quotes (i.e ") instead of single quotes (i.e. ') and it will work. > > Actually it's mor

Re: connect to a process

2001-09-13 Thread Keith Morse
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Chang wrote: > but how could you run screen if you are running a program on the foreground? > ssh user@remotehost. run screen. setup 1 or more windows (connections, sessions, whatever you want to call them). if you're disconnected. reconnect to the remote host as you

Re: scripting/sed help

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 05:13:33PM -0400, Gordon McCrae wrote: >User Double quotes (i.e ") instead of single quotes (i.e. ') and it will work. Actually it's more complicated than that because double quotes then require at least doubling all the backwhack characters (one of the joys of doing thing

Re: scripting/sed help

2001-09-13 Thread Gordon McCrae
User Double quotes (i.e ") instead of single quotes (i.e. ') and it will work. Gordon "Douglas J. Hunley" wrote: > I'm trying to write a script to remove parts of a file and am having > difficulty. The code looks like: > #!/bin/sh > > for i in zh fr de it ja ko pt es > do > for j in `fi

Re: err.... Code Green worm?

2001-09-13 Thread JW
Yes. There's an article about it on Linuxtoday right now. Leads to here: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010913/tc/automatic_patching_will_it_make_the_world_safe_from_worms__1.html At 04:28 PM 9/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: >A buddy has started seeing something in his Apache logs callin

Re: scripting/sed help

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:55:53PM -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: >I'm trying to write a script to remove parts of a file and am having >difficulty. The code looks like: >#!/bin/sh > >for i in zh fr de it ja ko pt es >do >for j in `find . -newer .babel -name '*.html' -print` >do

scripting/sed help

2001-09-13 Thread Douglas J. Hunley
I'm trying to write a script to remove parts of a file and am having difficulty. The code looks like: #!/bin/sh for i in zh fr de it ja ko pt es do for j in `find . -newer .babel -name '*.html' -print` do cat $j.$i | sed 's/http\:\/\/babelfish\.altavista\.com\/ur

Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-13 Thread Joel Hammer
Japan did learn a hard lesson. They believed we would negotiate after Pearl Harbor. The Japanese military had a very limited understanding of the United States. We fought a remorseless war. We sank everything in the Pacific that was Japanese. We routinely shot Japanese pilots in parachutes. We ma

err.... Code Green worm?

2001-09-13 Thread Douglas J. Hunley
A buddy has started seeing something in his Apache logs calling itself the Code Green. It's apparently an anti-Code Red worm that is designed to patch the site that just tried to Code Red you. Yes, it's a reactive agent. A log snippet: [06/Sep/2001:20:16:10 -0400] "GET /default.ida?Code_Green__

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff
At 03:38 PM 9/13/01 -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: >Yes. They USED to burn witches and heretics, but haven't been doing that for >several hundred years. >Unlike the Muslims, who in Afghanistan, are putting on trial for their life >people for the crime of promoting a non-Islamic religion. >You may have

Re: My Sentiments on the WTC attack

2001-09-13 Thread Jim Conner
Yes, life, as normal as possible, must go on. To let these terrorist attacks stop the US and other nations in their tracks would only give them a victory. Yes, we mourn the loss of lives and the senseless destruction of property, but we must go on with our lives. If you want to help, give bl

RE: My Sentiments on the WTC attack

2001-09-13 Thread Tom Wilson
>>On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:49:30AM -0500, Bill Day wrote: > > > > > >Just so you know the "A.G." for respectives states has been > advised by the > >U.S. A.G. to investigate the price gougings, which I'm sorry > to say that I > >seen them as high as $5.85 in Terre Haute. > > If they want to

Re: VOip?

2001-09-13 Thread Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd
Several years ago I played with the Internet Phone software, using simple duplex sound cards. Not exactly the same VOip of today. It was also a bandwidth killer, but then the connection to the Internet was via a 33.6 modem. Voice quality is not bad, even when connected from Hong Kong to Sout

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Alfrey
Thanks to all (Ian, Doug, Kurt, Bruce and probably more by the time I finish this) who helped out so quickly with the cron process! Next, a kernel recompile (h...) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ http://linux.nf -- [E

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Kurt Wall
Tony Alfrey wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm having increasingly annoying issues with SuSE 7.2. I have two > other linux partitions on the same box. Whn I use the > "locate " command, it proceeds to list all files with , > but also those files ON AN UNMOUNTED PARTITION that have . So > somewhere,

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:42:27 -0400 Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >Snip | Must be some other infidels. The Koran and Mohammedan himself instructed the |followers of Islam to, "Respect the people of the Book." The Book is the Bible and |the People | of the Book are Hebrews and Christians. Chri

Re: My Sentiments on the WTC attack

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:49:30AM -0500, Bill Day wrote: > > >Just so you know the "A.G." for respectives states has been advised by the >U.S. A.G. to investigate the price gougings, which I'm sorry to say that I >seen them as high as $5.85 in Terre Haute. If they want to investigate something

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Gordon McCrae
Look guys, this is getting no-one anywhere fast. The perpetrators of the horrendous acts in NY and Washington could not have hoped for more in fighting and arguing amongst America and their allies. As for the stupid re-production of that 1970's piece of garbage from the Canadian article, well,

Re: My Sentiments on the WTC attack

2001-09-13 Thread Bill Day
Just so you know the "A.G." for respectives states has been advised by the U.S. A.G. to investigate the price gougings, which I'm sorry to say that I seen them as high as $5.85 in Terre Haute. Talk to you later. -- Bill Day A.K.A. BadMan RLU#188133 RLM#83358 http://count

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Lee
Lo Viksten wrote: > torsdagen den 13 september 2001 13.09 wrote Joel Hammer: > > > If Sweden didn't want to fight the Nazis, why should we? > > Sweden was surounded by the Nazis. Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic states > and Soviets Baltic coast occupied by them and Finland allied to them. We

a libc question

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hi all! Star Office 5.2 readme says that it needs glibc 2.1.0 or later. It is (was?) a known fact that so5.2 would not install on Caldera LTP and indeed, it seems to want glibc 2.1.0, as installation from a terminal stops, delivering a reply "glibc 2.1.91". How does the numbering system for

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 13 September 2001 06:31 am, Ian Marchak spoke thus unto Caesar's assembled legions: > > locate uses a database it rebuilds, usually from a cron job. You can > find the script called by the cron job and add to the directories > that are excluded from the database when it's built. Ca

Re: Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Thursday 13 September 2001 08:24 am, you wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 05:56 am, Rick Sivernell spoke thus unto > > Caesar's assembled legions: > > > At the risk of starting severe flame (remember the ;-) ;-) > > > ), if we had not "annexed" Texas, perhaps Dubya would be president >

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Lee
Joel Hammer wrote: > Why this silly discussion about the Koran. Islam is what Muslims do. Nothing > more and nothing less. > Muslims routinely celebrate the death of infidels. > Joel >Snip And Christians burned witches, heretics, monks who claimed the earth circled the sun, Jews , Muslims, Moor

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Thursday 13 September 2001 9:31 am, Ian Marchak wrote: > locate uses a database it rebuilds, usually from a cron job.  You can find > the script called by the cron job and add to the directories that are > excluded from the database when it's built.  Cannot remember where this is > in SuSE, but

Re: I noticed

2001-09-13 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:20:23 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > >(* Of course, being less effective would perhaps be a real, perhaps even > unachiveable accomplishment.) Not mention a larger waste of money... stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAI

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Lee
JW wrote: > At 08:37 AM 9/12/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >No, they are not. Islamic law forbids suicide and states that those > >who do are will go to hell. I'd be more than happy to help them get > >there. > > I would like you to substantiate that, please. My pastor has read quotes of of, I >beliv

Re: Video Viewing program

2001-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Thursday 13 September 2001 9:22 am, N7LQ wrote: > One little problem I have been running into lately is an inability to watch > many of the video files that are floating around the net about the WTC > crash. Is there an application for Linux that has some of these plug-ins > or capabilities?

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Douglas J. Hunley
On Thursday 13 September 2001 09:13, Tony Alfrey babbled: > /lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 > /lib/libcrypt.so.1 > /media/sda4/lib/gnulibc1 > /media/sda4/lib/gnulibc1/libc.so.5/ > . > . > The first two listings are from the mounted partition. The directory > /media is where I mount my other filesystems.

Re: "locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Ian Marchak
Quoting Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all! > > I'm having increasingly annoying issues with SuSE 7.2. I have two > other linux partitions on the same box. Whn I use the > "locate " command, it proceeds to list all files with , > /lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 > /lib/libcrypt.so.1 > /media

Re: Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 13 September 2001 05:56 am, Rick Sivernell spoke thus unto Caesar's assembled legions: > > At the risk of starting severe flame (remember the ;-) ;-) > > ), if we had not "annexed" Texas, perhaps Dubya would be president > > of Mexico today . > > No, that is not true. Texas was a r

Video Viewing program

2001-09-13 Thread N7LQ
One little problem I have been running into lately is an inability to watch many of the video files that are floating around the net about the WTC crash. Is there an application for Linux that has some of these plug-ins or capabilities? The Wine based ones, including the QT viewer that uses

RE: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Poor, Robert W Dr. SBCCOM
Likely, remember when they bombed the trade center from the basement their intent was to bring it down. The information on structural limits for these types of buildings is public information. I can accept the pentagon strike...it is war; but not the twin towers. bob -Original Message-

Re: I noticed

2001-09-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:53:21 -0400 dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | as to the u.n. coming together -- right now, the u.n. is probably | chiefly concerned over the distinct possibility that americans join | together and physically push the damned thing into the east river. | something that in m

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread R. Quenett
from Keith Antoine: [...] " From what we here in Oz, at least some fought back and saved a target in the Thanks for the information, I hadn't heard this. One can only admire such courage. Without doubt,there will be more acts of heroism recounted in the days ahead. I'm afraid I wouldn't like

"locate" wierdness

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hi all! I'm having increasingly annoying issues with SuSE 7.2. I have two other linux partitions on the same box. Whn I use the "locate " command, it proceeds to list all files with , but also those files ON AN UNMOUNTED PARTITION that have . So somewhere, there's some list of files left

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Sivernell
Ollie That was then, now is another time for all mankind to stand together here. We all are in the community of mankind, seeking peace and diginty for all. The past is the past and now is now. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux e

Re: A good report from Canada

2001-09-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:00:03 -0400 dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Thursday 13 September 2001 05:10, Chang wrote: | | i hate to say this: | | to be truely peaceful, you gotta sign the treaty on CO2 emission. | | :) | | oh yeah? the one that says the u.s. is a bad guy, while china and | ever

Re: Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Rick Sivernell
> At the risk of starting severe flame (remember the ;-) ;-) ), if > we had not "annexed" Texas, perhaps Dubya would be president of Mexico > today . No, that is not true. Texas was a republic for over ten years, thus a Nation on it own. We applied for and Granted the the right to join the U

Re: New York WTC

2001-09-13 Thread Olle Viksten
torsdagen den 13 september 2001 13.09 wrote Joel Hammer: > If Sweden didn't want to fight the Nazis, why should we? Sweden was surounded by the Nazis. Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic states and Soviets Baltic coast occupied by them and Finland allied to them. We wouldn't had a chance. (BTW

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