On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:45:00 +0200
Olle Viksten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| måndagen den 17 september 2001 17.22 you wrote:
| Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit, you have
| been away from meat and potatoes too long.
|
| FYI Meat and potatoes is somewhat of a
600 pound gorilla politics making headway these days?
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:55:15 -0500
Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I see that the basic intent of my statement is well understood though.
|
| On Monday 17 September 2001 10:45, Olle Viksten wrote:
| måndagen den 17 september
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:52:07 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| I guess to point out how stupid my last post was, I'll add to this thread.
|
| Did anyone read about Tom Clancy's take on the whole ordeal? It is
| interesting, since the attack was somewhat similar to a plot in one of his
|
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:17:59 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So maybe all Europeans are not 'cheese-eaters' or live on a diet of
crepes and fruit. Sorry. I had to...
| score one for our side. in several ways. an european cracker busted
| open a mailing list used by, among others, some of
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:16:31 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 17 September 2001 11:25, burns wrote:
|
| | And Sadam is still in power, refuses to adopt a peaceful posture
| | toward his neighbours and is still a significant threat.
|
| wait a few days.
|
| | Many people in Iran
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:52, you scribed:
I guess to point out how stupid my last post was, I'll add to this
thread.
Did anyone read about Tom Clancy's take on the whole ordeal? It is
interesting, since the attack was somewhat similar to a plot in one
of his books, to hear his
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 04:22, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| And if you go to Riyadh today, it is the worst of Western urban
| sprawl, fast food, junk strip malls and cars. Of course, it has
| been their decision to import this aspect of the West, but many a
| Saudi look with sorrow at what
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:30:51 -0400
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Friday 14 September 2001 19:57 pm, dep wrote:
| | What the US and it's allies do, will be carefully watched by all.
| | It is imperative that the US comes out of all this looking
| | snow-white and in shining
On September 17, 2001 03:30 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
I think the US has always done this. It is the 'correct and proper' part
that has been the problem. What we consider to be so is not what everyone
considers to be so. The US would do much better to just stay out.
Do nothing. Let
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
% On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:30:51 -0400
% Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%
%|Exactly. One of the things we *must* give up is the thought that we must be
%|liked by the world. As long as what we do is 'correct and proper', let the
%|world think what it wants.
%
But if we look at the bin Laden complaint against the US:
- The US currently has a state of military occupation in
KSA (Saudi Arabia). The US came when Iraq acted up, but they
have not left.
- bin Laden has problems with the KSA royal family. He, and
Roger
You need to open your eyes here. It does not matter what the greivence is,
terrors want change to what they deem is correct. If you disagree, I kill you
in Jihade. If you capitulate, your are my slave, The KSA is just an excuse
here. Laden wants KSA to follow Iraq. Also he leads as
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:15:01 -0500
Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Roger
|
| You need to open your eyes here. It does not matter what the greivence is,
| terrors want change to what they deem is correct. If you disagree, I kill you
| in Jihade. If you capitulate, your are my
On Monday 17 September 2001 03:30, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| The US just has to accept the fact that they cannot make the world
| safe.
i believe you will discover that we have lost all interest in making
the world safe and instead now shall make the u.s. safe, and if that
means draconian
On Monday 17 September 2001 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| But if we look at the bin Laden complaint against the US:
|
| - The US currently has a state of military occupation in
| KSA (Saudi Arabia). The US came when Iraq acted up, but they
| have not left.
we have been
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:27:13 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 17 September 2001 03:30, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| | The US just has to accept the fact that they cannot make the world
| | safe.
|
| i believe you will discover that we have lost all interest in making
| the world
On Monday 17 September 2001 10:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| I write from Sweden, but I am an American. I have lived here many
| years, but I still have a US passport. I saw no advantage to not
| having one. These days, i dunno...
do what you think is right or, lacking that, what you think
måndagen den 17 september 2001 16.02 you wrote:
I write from Sweden, but I am an American. I have lived here many
years, but I still have a US passport. I saw no advantage to not
having one. These days, i dunno...
Have you seen the site for SLUG (Stockholm Linux UserGroup)?
Roger
HMMM
I see where you are going, that would be nice. Actually that was what the
UN was for. But as you know, that does not work very well. We spend an
massive amount of resource there and it is down a black hole. Besides there
is so much bickering going on, compare it to our
Hello Roger,
While I understand your position I must disagree. The American
presence in Saudi Arabia is by invitation of the Royal Family, no
doubt, and most likely is helping them to stay in power to some extent.
Mr. bin Laden, is nothing more than a tin pot religious facist zealot
who is
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:49:20 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 17 September 2001 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| | But if we look at the bin Laden complaint against the US:
| |
| | - The US currently has a state of military occupation in
| | KSA (Saudi Arabia). The US
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:11:16 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 17 September 2001 10:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
|
| | I write from Sweden, but I am an American. I have lived here many
| | years, but I still have a US passport. I saw no advantage to not
| | having one. These days,
I did not disagree with any of that. Bin Laden is an opportunist using
what he defines as religion as a framework for taking control. He may even
believe what he preaches. I think he does. And if we are going to deal
with him and 'the base' we should understand this and assume that they
really
Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit, you have
been away from meat and potatoes too long.
On Monday 17 September 2001 09:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:27:13 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 17 September 2001 03:30, Roger
In basics it breaks down like this.
Bin-Laden needs money. Period. Now he has increased the output of opium in
Afhganistan to double what it was, they are now the largest exporter of dried
poppies in the east. His followers guard the shippments, Bin-Laden collects a
10% tax on all opium
On Monday 17 September 2001 10:58, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| So we stay. But in the context of my very first sentence, the next
| statement explained why HE, BIN LADEN, WHO'S POINT OF VIEW I WAS
| PRESENTING, feels this is a problem. Perhaps that was not clear
| enough in the opening line of my
Our main concesion to Pakistan is the layoff of $30B in debt they owe us.
On Monday 17 September 2001 09:58, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:49:20 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 17 September 2001 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| | But if we look at the bin
måndagen den 17 september 2001 17.22 you wrote:
Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit, you have
been away from meat and potatoes too long.
FYI Meat and potatoes is somewhat of a staple diet here in Sweden. :-) And we
don't have crepes we have pannkakor.
Olle
I guess to point out how stupid my last post was, I'll add to this thread.
Did anyone read about Tom Clancy's take on the whole ordeal? It is
interesting, since the attack was somewhat similar to a plot in one of his
books, to hear his comments.
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On Monday 17 September 2001 11:10, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| This week I was to be in Riyadh. For the first time I can remember,
| I really have been a bit afraid to go. Due to flight delays, my
| VISA has been held up. Sort of saved by the bell.
yeah. i'd do my best to avoid that part of the
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:22, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
| Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit,
| you have been away from meat and potatoes too long.
unfair. roger has explained his meaning, and he's one of the good
guys. you wanna see the bad guys, look here:
score one for our side. in several ways. an european cracker busted
open a mailing list used by, among others, some of the people who
committed the atrocity last week, and posted the list of 500 email
addresses. story is here:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/medien/0,1518,157759,00.html
--
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:56 am, dep wrote:
| Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit,
| you have been away from meat and potatoes too long.
unfair. roger has explained his meaning, and he's one of the good
guys. you wanna see the bad guys, look here:
guess it is a bit unfair, bout the same way as saying we did this to
ourselves.
On Monday 17 September 2001 10:56, dep wrote:
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:22, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
| Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit,
| you have been away from meat and
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:45:00 +0200, Olle Viksten wrote:
FYI Meat and potatoes is somewhat of a staple diet here in Sweden. :-) And we
don't have crepes we have pannkakor.
Lol! point well taken. ;-)
stayler
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On Monday 17 September 2001 11:17 am, you wrote:
score one for our side. in several ways. an european cracker busted
open a mailing list used by, among others, some of the people who
committed the atrocity last week, and posted the list of 500 email
addresses. story is here:
-Original Message-
From: Rick Sivernell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New York WTC
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:17 am, you wrote:
score one for our side. in several ways. an european cracker busted
open
Rick Sivernell wrote:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/medien/0,1518,157759,00.html
Can't speak german,
cheers
Use the fish, Luke. As in babelfish translator. Give it the URL and it
will convert it to English.
--Tom Wilson
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On Monday 17 September 2001 12:15 pm, you wrote:
Rick Sivernell wrote:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/medien/0,1518,157759,00.html
Can't speak german,
cheers
Use the fish, Luke. As in babelfish translator. Give it the URL and it
will convert it to English.
--Tom Wilson
In the Is that a good thing or a bad thing? department...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010917/aponline114219_000.htm
If bin Laden is guilty, this brings the very real possibility of solving
the immediate problem without having much effect on terrorism as a force. I
mean,
[ snips ]
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:49:20 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Monday 17 September 2001 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
| But if we look at the bin Laden complaint against the US:
Who gives a rats patoot about Bin Ladens's complaints against the US
or anyone else?
your
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:31:05 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Monday 17 September 2001 12:20, Bruce Marshall wrote:
| I looked at this site for a long time and I never really did find
| out what their agenda is... Phrases like being against 'the
| Bush Program' are throughout but
On September 17, 2001 11:38 am, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
Our main concesion to Pakistan is the layoff of $30B in debt they owe us.
139 lines of quotes snipped
Please trim your posts... netiquette 101
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On September 17, 2001 11:56 am, dep wrote:
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:22, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
| Why dont you burn your pasport and go have some crepes and fruit,
| you have been away from meat and potatoes too long.
unfair. roger has explained his meaning, and he's one of the good
On Monday 17 September 2001 12:06, burns wrote:
|| A thinly disguised front for what otherwise would be the The
| Coomunist League of America, Anarchists R Us, and the National
| Front for the Liberation Promotion of Almost Everyone that
| Doesn't Earn a Paycheck Through Honest Work.
damn
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 07:45:56AM +0200, Olle Viksten wrote:
onsdagen den 12 september 2001 00.21 wrote dep:
On Tuesday 11 September 2001 18:05, Joel Hammer wrote:
| Before someone becomes an apologist for the Muslims, name me a
| country where Muslims live in appreciable numbers where
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:09:15 +1000, Shane Broomhall wrote:
I am not a pacifist, an anti gun person, I have 14 years military service
behind me, in Australia. I just think that having more weapons on board
being carried by civilians really would not help, and it would more than
likely create
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:27:52 -0400, Lee wrote:
It's amazing! These two Christian bigots have made millions pushing the message of a
man who
never had a sheckel he didn't give away. Part of his message was that it is easier
for a camel
to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to
On Sunday 16 September 2001 20:25, R. Quenett wrote:
| Accepting ab initio the impossibility of the perfect, I personally
| would *far* rather take my chances in any situation in which both I
| and the people around me were free to arm ourselves as we chose
| than in any situation in which I and
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:15:24PM -0700, Shawn Tayler wrote:
...
An armed person is a citizen, an unarmed person is a subject. I prefer
to be a citizen.
Two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch is a Democracy. Liberty is a well-
armed lamb protecting the rights of the minority.
(note the quote
This just came in on another mailing list I manage, and I think
addresses many of these issues very well:
start of article
Subject: Seven Deadly Sins
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 08:24:34 -0400
Lord Mountbatten--...For in the last resort, civilization stands or
falls not by covenants, but by
You forgot the freedom of being trapped by debris and burnt to death
Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedommay find one day their
personal choices reduced to burning to death or jumping 80 stories.
Joel
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There is at least one more airline who employs 2
secret agents on every flight to ensure the plane is not hijecked.
Auyeung
- Original Message -
: Net Llama
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 2001914 AM 10:57
: Re: New York WTC
--- Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:36:40 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
|
| Joel Hammer wrote:
|
| You are right about that. Nations have avoided declaring war in the last 50
| years. Strange. I guess they want to save paperwork.
| However, FDR, without the consent of Congress, and in
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:11:09 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| whats going on. Lastly why isn't the cabin on a seperate environment
| so as the cabin crew could unleash a fairly harmless gas to put ALL to sleep till it
|could land
| with a sombulent cargo??
Is that what they spray
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:11:09 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| whats going on. Lastly why isn't the cabin on a seperate environment
| so as the cabin crew could unleash a fairly harmless gas to put ALL to sleep till
it could land
| with a sombulent
Keith Antoine wrote:
Joel Hammer wrote:
those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedoms will happily
point out to you that, as has been the case on the lirr and elsewhere
in the past, one good man with a gun would have solved the problem
with considerably less loss of
Skippy wrote:
All cliques aside, I would like to see a surgical operation,
something well planned and executed, similar to Entebbe. One that
exorcises the cancer but leaves the good flesh still there.
I agree. This seems to me the most sensible approach.
Regards,
Glenn
--
Glenn
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:16, you wrote:
Bruce Marshall wrote:
It would be great if they allowed people with carry permits to
carry weapons on board with prior notification. I think they
should do the same for teachers with permits with proper storage of
the weapon. Sure would
On Friday 14 September 2001 11:19, Glenn Williams wrote:
| I agree. This seems to me the most sensible approach.
yes. that's how bill pinprick clinton abolished terrorism from the
face of the earth, thereby makinf sure that tuesday didn't happen.
no, time is now to ignore our concerns about
Apparently you never can be too intolerant...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html
Stuart Biggerstaff
Linda Hall Library
5109 Cherry
Kansas City, MO 64110
Phone: (816) 926-8748
(800) 662-1545 x748
FAX:(816) 926-8785
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On Friday 14 September 2001 10:19 am, you wrote:
Skippy wrote:
All cliques aside, I would like to see a surgical operation,
something well planned and executed, similar to Entebbe. One that
exorcises the cancer but leaves the good flesh still there.
I agree. This seems to me the most
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 11:04:53AM -0500, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
Apparently you never can be too intolerant...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html
This just another case of the Witch Doctor's lining their pockets by
appealing to the fears and prejudices of the
Bill Campbell wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 11:04:53AM -0500, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
Apparently you never can be too intolerant...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html
Snip
It's amazing! These two Christian bigots have made millions pushing the message of
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 01:30, dep orated thus:
On Friday 14 September 2001 11:19, Glenn Williams wrote:
| I agree. This seems to me the most sensible approach.
yes. that's how bill pinprick clinton abolished terrorism from the
face of the earth, thereby makinf sure that tuesday didn't happen.
Keith Antoine wrote:
Joel Hammer wrote:
those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedoms will happily
point out to you that, as has been the case on the lirr and elsewhere
in the past, one good man with a gun would have solved the problem
with considerably less loss of
On Friday 14 September 2001 19:28, Keith Antoine wrote:
| What the US and it's allies do, will be carefully watched by all.
| It is imperative that the US comes out of all this looking
| snow-white and in shining armour.
unfortunately, it is exactly this consideration that made tuesday
On Friday 14 September 2001 19:57 pm, dep wrote:
| What the US and it's allies do, will be carefully watched by all.
| It is imperative that the US comes out of all this looking
| snow-white and in shining armour.
unfortunately, it is exactly this consideration that made tuesday
possible.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 09:30:51PM -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
..
Exactly. One of the things we *must* give up is the thought that we must be
liked by the world. As long as what we do is correct and proper, let the
world think what it wants.
Machiavelli pointed out that you last a lot
Bill Campbell wrote:
Machiavelli pointed out that you last a lot longer of the people in a
position to harm you fear you than if they love you. Fear is often a
stronger motivation than greed.
Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer. ;-)
Kurt
--
Love isn't only blind, it's also
Ian Marchak wrote:
i.e.: Carbon Fiber I assume you are referring to? Other than that there
are no materials that I know of lighter than and stronger than steel.
CF is amazingly strong when it comes to blunt forces and the like, but
if someone grabs one of the fire axes that are std equip
You are right about that. Nations have avoided declaring war in the last 50
years. Strange. I guess they want to save paperwork.
However, FDR, without the consent of Congress, and in fact in opposition to
Congress and the majority of the American people, engaged in acts of war
against both Japan
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:09:14 -0400
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| You are right about that. Nations have avoided declaring war in the last 50
| years. Strange. I guess they want to save paperwork.
| However, FDR, without the consent of Congress, and in fact in opposition to
| Congress
Joel
Whoa there big boy. You are forgetting something, oin fact there are a
lot of things here.
1. The president does not need congress's approval to committ troops
anywhere, just to keep them there after a period of time.
2. At the time of the WWII, many were isolationist. That means
torsdagen den 13 september 2001 13.09 wrote Joel Hammer:
If Sweden didn't want to fight the Nazis, why should we?
Sweden was surounded by the Nazis. Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic states
and Soviets Baltic coast occupied by them and Finland allied to them. We
wouldn't had a chance. (BTW
Ollie
That was then, now is another time for all mankind to stand together here.
We all are in the community of mankind, seeking peace and diginty for all.
The past is the past and now is now.
cheers
--
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Dallas, Texas 75287
972 306-2296
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from Keith Antoine:
[...]
From what we here in Oz, at least some fought back and saved a target in the
Thanks for the information, I hadn't heard this. One can only admire
such courage. Without doubt,there will be more acts of heroism recounted
in the days ahead. I'm afraid I wouldn't
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From: Joel Hammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September, 2001 7:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Re: New York WTC
Lo Viksten wrote:
torsdagen den 13 september 2001 13.09 wrote Joel Hammer:
If Sweden didn't want to fight the Nazis, why should we?
Sweden was surounded by the Nazis. Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic states
and Soviets Baltic coast occupied by them and Finland allied to them. We
Look guys, this is getting no-one anywhere fast.
The perpetrators of the horrendous acts in NY and Washington could not have hoped for
more in fighting and arguing amongst America
and their allies.
As for the stupid re-production of that 1970's piece of garbage from the Canadian
article,
At 03:38 PM 9/13/01 -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
Yes. They USED to burn witches and heretics, but haven't been doing that for
several hundred years.
Unlike the Muslims, who in Afghanistan, are putting on trial for their life
people for the crime of promoting a non-Islamic religion.
You may have
Skippy
Some just do not get it. There is no sense in arguing with them.
All we can do is smile shake our heads. Hope the never find out for real.
cheers my friend
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972 306-2296
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No you are correct it started long before. England and france were far to complacent
and wanted to appease instead of doing.
It wasn't just England and France. I have a first hand account by the
English Ambassador at Munich. The great appeasement
occurred at Munich. There Hitler got want he
Rick Sivernell wrote:
Skippy
Some just do not get it. There is no sense in arguing with them.
All we can do is smile shake our heads. Hope the never find out for real.
cheers my friend
Rick,
Yes you are totally correct, I am sorry to say. However on a different note I feel
Skippy
The news here is showing support from around the world, we have friends
everywhere. Thanks
I understand skippy. On a nicer note, our air miles have gone over the 100k
mark.
We are getting closer to that time when we may be able to make our trip to
land of Kangaroosg. Just can
On September 13, 2001 07:37 pm, Joel Hammer wrote:
occurred at Munich. There Hitler got want he wanted, the
There is a well-established rule in these types of discussions that has stood
the test of time and become integral to Netiquette...
Once a thread focuses on a discussion of Hitler, it
Keith Antoine wrote:
snip
Rick,
Yes you are totally correct, I am sorry to say. However on a different note I feel
differently to all of the users of this list than I had previously. There are many
of you that I
guess you could say 'I Love', being careful that the correct connotation of
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote:
| Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find
| one day their personal choices reduced to burning to death or
| jumping 80 stories. Joel
those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedoms will happily
point out
--- dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote:
| I believe Yoda put this quite well:
| Luke: But he was a great warrior!
| Yoda: Wars do not make one great.
yoda is, um, a character in a movie.
So? Does that make the words less relevant?
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:53:05PM -0400, dep wrote:
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote:
| Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find
| one day their personal choices reduced to burning to death or
| jumping 80 stories. Joel
those who cry out for
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:47:41PM -0400, dep wrote:
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote:
| I believe Yoda put this quite well:
| Luke: But he was a great warrior!
| Yoda: Wars do not make one great.
yoda is, um, a character in a movie.
lenin put it a little
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:01, Net Llama wrote:
| --- dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:39, Net Llama wrote:
| | I believe Yoda put this quite well:
| | Luke: But he was a great warrior!
| | Yoda: Wars do not make one great.
|
| yoda is, um, a character
Semper Fi
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| Luke: But he was a great warrior!
| Yoda: Wars do not make one great.
yoda is, um, a character in a movie.
So? Does that make the words less relevant?
Well, Luke didn't say he became great because of war.
Maybe Luke said he was great because he won without fighting.
You know,
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 10:17:04AM -0400, Lee wrote:
Lo Viksten wrote:
torsdagen den 13 september 2001 13.09 wrote Joel Hammer:
If Sweden didn't want to fight the Nazis, why should we?
Sweden was surounded by the Nazis. Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic states
and Soviets Baltic
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:30, Bruce Marshall wrote:
| I agree. Why they don't arm the pilots is beyond me.
| Joel
|
| Good thought but I think the problem is that they would have a
| dillemma if some crazies are banging on the cockpit door while they
| hold a knife to one or more
--- Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:06 pm, Joel Hammer wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:53:05PM -0400, dep wrote:
On Thursday 13 September 2001 21:42, Joel Hammer wrote:
| Those who cry out for no restraints on personal freedom may find
| one
On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:41 pm, dep wrote:
| If there were 3 or 4 crazies, the pilots would probably have to
| shoot through 3 or 4 hostages in order to kill the crazies. Might
| be a necessary trade-off but still not a nice situation.
in all known experience, people who want to
Oh dear! We are in chaos at the moment in that next to Qantas, Ansett our big internal
and NZ
air carrier has just gone belly up, 16000 lost jobs. There are rallies on all over
plus Sydney
airport has gone on strike. The workers entitlements up about 4.5mill look bad. So now
we are
shut down
Andrew Mathews wrote:
I believe it bears noting that those of us who have served our country
and seen blood spilled have a different perspective on the proper way
of dealing with these incidents. I never want to see some things again,
but nonetheless, realize that it's necessary. We're
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