On 21 Jun 2013, at 14:08, Mark Fowler wrote:
On Friday, 21 June 2013 at 08:54, Ben Tisdall wrote:
I'm moving to Germany and would like to maintain a UK IP address
while
there, primarily to run a web proxy.
Maybe you should consider a VPN solution instead. I've used
StrongVPN to do this.
On 1 Jun 2013, at 18:23, Dirk Koopman wrote:
It is very annoying. The more so because this is an artefact that is
(apparently) relied on by a lot of legacy code.
Quite a lot of other perl artefacts have been deprecated and then
removed. Why does this one persist? In what way is it useful o
On 14 May 2013, at 14:43, Ben Vinnerd wrote:
I live in the North West and recently I saw a contract at Jobsite in
Hampshire (i.e. a long way away). I spoke to the agent and they
don't allow
WFH (is this the agent not allowing me? Or Jobsite?).
I don't want to unleash the dogs of war and al
On 14 May 2013, at 14:34, Aaron Trevena wrote:
On 14 May 2013 14:10, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Aaron Trevena :
or you could get a trainer onsite.
That sounds like a *fabulous* idea :-)
Other perl trainers are available ;)
I don't think training is the answer always here, i think what
On 8 May 2013, at 17:09, Peter Corlett wrote:
The real problem is browser support of Gopher. None of the common
popular
browsers support it any more.
Clearly they are not fit for purpose then! ;-)
G.
On 25 Mar 2013, at 15:23, David Cantrell wrote:
>
> I don't like the way that some API modules have eleventy bajillion
> objects which get in the damned way of the data. OTOH when I do want
> objects, I *really* want them.
>
I once worked with a company who worked with another company who had
On 21 Mar 2013, at 14:46, David Dorward wrote:
>
> For a moment I thought that was a Palladium game and nearly took more SAN
> damage, but it appears to be a WEG d6er so phew.
>
GM: You take unknown points of SAN damage.
DD: You can't do that.
GM: Maybe i didn't?
DD: I go speak to a psycholog
On 21 Mar 2013, at 12:00, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:18:50AM +, Dave Mitchell wrote:
>
>> I was using "Server-Side JavaScript" (the moral equivalent of mod_perl) to
>> write web applications using Netscape's Enterprise Web Server back around
>> 1998. So JS has been mo
On 20 Mar 2013, at 08:20, AJ Dhaliwal wrote:
"It is possible that Perl became less of the duct tape of the
internet because of JavaScript."
Didn't know Perl ever competed with Javascript?
I think at a certain point UI/UX became more important than just
serving up information, Flickr m
Good topic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGW2w6PdnE8
G.
On 19 Mar 2013, at 14:39, David Cantrell wrote:
> I'd like to talk about cheese.
>
>> Then start a new thread under a relevant subject. Netiquette 101.
>
> --
> David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness
>
> Lorem ips
On 18 Mar 2013, at 16:00, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
>
> You'll need to write in French, though. And get paid in Euro.
Couldn't we just write loudly in CAPS?
G.
On 15 Mar 2013, at 13:29, James Laver wrote:
On 15 Mar 2013, at 13:04, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
So, no then. In the sense of having a single page of good examples of
using the new features.
With so many orgs stuck on ancient perls, it may not be a full
solution. Sure it may attract newbie
On 7 Mar 2013, at 13:33, Richard Huxton wrote:
On 07/03/13 13:05, David Cantrell wrote:
With proper employees it's a bit different - you expect them to
stay for
longer, so can allow time for getting up to speed with the tools. Of
course, this doesn't apply if you're the sort of idiot who hir
On 7 Mar 2013, at 12:22, Chris Jack wrote:
Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote
How long is a piece of string?
A piece of string is 3 inches long. Now you might be thinking you've
seen a piece of string that was 4 inches long. But that was another
piece of string.
*Sorry: and it's not
On 15 Feb 2013, at 13:31, Peter Corlett wrote:
That was an excellent choice of pub. We should do that more often.
But can you pre-warn them next time so they have more pies on the
bar? :)
Just wait until summer, then they do BBQ's ;-)
G.
Maybe what we need is a match.com of sorts for the Perl community. Who has
time/skills/resources and who in the Perl community/TPF knows that something
needs done.
I'll pick on Jess (castaway) as an example .
"1 hour a week proof reading."
That would get snapped up every week. And the
Before this blows up, can i just say that Leo is a good guy and your work
speaks for itself Duncan, and sometimes we can all fire off a quick email a
little too rashly as we get used to trolls and other internet mailing list
beasties.
G.
p.s. now who wants to buy me first class eurostar ticke
On 24 Jan 2013, at 17:15, Paul Makepeace wrote:
So we're using Perl still then? :D
Perl was never cool, it was the kid that liked wearing a sports coat
to school with leather patches sewn on the elbows as they took style
tips from their 'cool' maths teacher.
G.
language/toolset was
cool about 10 years ago.
G.
On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:00, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 04:49:17PM +0100, Abigail wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:38:08PM +0000, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>>> Tied variables ;-)
>> Overloaded constants, and not
Tied variables ;-)
G.
On 24 Jan 2013, at 13:57, Denny wrote:
> You do know what $status contains in the example (so you could hardcore it in
> the SQL anyway). $id is up for grabs though.
>
>
>
> Simon Wilcox wrote:
>
>> On 24/01/2013 03:01, Sam Kington wrote:
>>> I mean, sure, this is s
ation of set theory is pretty damn bad.
On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:51, Greg McCarroll wrote:
I'd also suggest finding yourself a mentor in your organization - it
might not even be inside the IT function, my mentor was head of
findance, and maybe have a first chat about what the various
I'd also suggest finding yourself a mentor in your organization - it
might not even be inside the IT function, my mentor was head of
findance, and maybe have a first chat about what the various
stakeholders (and i dont mean just the business) want to get out of a
successful project. In m
In this day and age I'd be looking at an ORM[1] layer for such simple changes,
they are almost foolproof until someone is a fool ;-). And they will probably
avoid stupid SQL mistakes that you and I might both make.
And DBIx::Class[2] is the current best of breed, it can also 'reverse
engineer'
On 17 Jan 2013, at 09:57, Kieren Diment wrote:
On 17/01/2013, at 2:08 AM, gvim wrote:
PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380
London Perl Workshop: £0
'nuff said.
Apparently not.
Having been part of the teams that organized the first YAPC::Europe
and first LPW there is a good reason for it being free
On 31 Oct 2012, at 20:40, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
>
> On 31 Oct 2012, at 20:00, Joel Bernstein wrote:
>>
>> Not to be snarky but the answer here seems to be "yes, and what's your
>> point?"
>
> Companies that make you buy their software (limited, free,
> development version notwithstanding,
On 4 Sep 2012, at 13:26, Mr I wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Roger Burton West wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> It's equivalent to asking you to write a function ved(n, m) that
>> implements
>>> the 16 sutras* and uses them to return the result. A task that maybe
>> easily
>>> done by many an India
I'd suggest two things ...
1) be excellent to one another - all the best philosophies come from bad 80's,
90's movies, if you need a good movie from that time period, might i suggest
the mantra 'save ferris'.
2) what Tom says goes, not an IRC op, not an ex-leader, not anyone else, 'In
Tom we
Thanks for being gracious, and look on the bright side, you didn't top post.
G.
On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:38, Alex Balhatchet wrote:
> On 3 August 2012 09:37, Alex Balhatchet wrote:
>> I've requested a password reminder *and* an unsubscribe at
>> http://london.pm.org/mailman/options/london.pm for th
All I'm going to say is if some masochists, sorry i mean volunteers, want to
think about doing a YAPC London, they'd get a lot of support.
Just saying,
G.
YAPC::Europe London 2013, we waited 13 years to do it again because we wanted
to turn the volume to 13.
Begin forwarded message:
> From:
On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:55, Paul wrote:
> On Thursday, 23 February, 2012 at 14:27:17 GMT, L?on Brocard wrote:
>> Damian will be presenting:
>>
> [...snipped a load of garbage...]
>
> What is this meeting actually about?
It's some washed up ex-neighbours actor, who is doing a one man alternative
On 31 Jan 2012, at 05:18, Avleen Vig wrote:
This is the problem with TMTOWTDI.
There should just be one way to do it. Then we wouldn't have this
problem.
:-)
We'd also not have a language that attracts people who like to fly
giant kites (Andy W. and a few others) and buy priests cassocks
I'm afraid i'm going to be boring and suggest some business requirements.
In comments or pod, note the following:
When you are doing this (even if version control can tell people), and who you
are.
Why? if there is a long worded document/spec, at least give its name. Check it
in under version
I shall be there, i've always like the 1st thursday of the month when it's also
the first, honest,
G.
On 7 Aug 2011, at 02:14, Mark Keating wrote:
> If I understand the metrics correctly the 1st September is a heretics meeting
> for London.pm, which is auspicious if true for Matt S. Trout (ms
On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:00, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>
> [1] I blame Greg for this.
>
Why do you think most YAPC's have a t-shirt in the welcome pack, the first one
is always free .
Greg
On 17 Jun 2009, at 13:47, Dave Cross wrote:
p.s. I'd completely forgotten about that. Might need to save some
money to bid on that shirt myself.
duly noted. don't be surprised if there is a mysterious person in your
blind spot bidding you up ;-)
G.
On 19 Dec 2008, at 18:22, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Dec 19, 2008, at 17:36, Tony Kennick <0995a06aaeaf6b70e79c3aafd6719...@half.pint.org.uk
> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:39:30PM +,
the following was promulgated by Andy Wardley:
Behold!
http://london.pm.org/
Now it has rounded corn
On 16 Dec 2008, at 19:17, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:08:18PM +, James Laver wrote:
With all of these code-based things going on, I'm inclined to suggest
a more disturbing challenge - overcomplicating "hello world"
Cheap joke I know, but isn't the canonical example o
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:25:25PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Nige wrote:-
>
> >p.s. maybe we could have an auction item - let's buy back perl.com?
>
> This sounds like a good idea.
>
It sounds like a terrible idea.
It's not a good auction item - trust me. It also doesn't achieve much
On 8 Dec 2008, at 07:17, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
This looks brilliant. A lot of Perl sites certainly could do with a
face
lift. I think it'd go a long way towards making Perl look more
alive :)
I especially like "the Onion" logo - Perl's official trademark never
looked
better. ;-)
On 5 Dec 2008, at 09:29, Léon Brocard wrote:
There has been some talk recently about getting more involved with
other user groups, specifically the British Computer Society. Seeing
as we are a society of computer users in Britain, you'd think we'd get
on together - but the BCS has traditionally h
I thought this might interest some of you.
I was lying in bed this morning wondering about how to take a pile
of measurements and have Perl (for why use something silly like a
CAD package) generate floor plans.
So say my room is like this
B
/|
A |
| |
D-C
I might end up with a set
On 4 Dec 2008, at 16:28, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
2008/12/4 Simon Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
David Cantrell wrote:
And no, setting up yet another blog aggregator or yet another
obscure
site that occasionally publishes an article, those don't count.
perlbuzz's existence hasn't fixed any prob
it's a start, but roll on issue #2 with the exact dates :-)
also, as a reminder LPW is just over a week away (Sat 29th).
G.
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Subject
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:11:28AM +, Steffan Davies wrote:
> Léon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at 08:01 on 2008-10-30:
>
> > 2008/10/27 Léon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > New World
> > > 1 Gerrard Place
> > > London W1D 5PA
> > > Leicester Square Tube Station
> > > http://maps.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:47:27AM -0300, Ot?vio Fernandes wrote:
> Sorry, I was importing my gmail contact and I made this mistake.
>
But such reasonable excuses spoil all the substance flinging,
;-)
G.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:10:32AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:26:26AM +0100, Dominic Thoreau wrote:
>
> > I promise to turn up to something, honest.
> > But Chiswick is too far to go for lunch. Next time it's in Soho, that
> > would be easier.
>
> You could come
See below, I think the new one (compared to his previous email) is
Perl Certification. I've got no idea what the ** stuff is about.
Oh and if you have colleagues wanting some free Perl training, you
might also like to look at the course our very own Dave Cross will be
running at this years LPW. I
s/tomorrow/thursday/
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 02:42:37PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote
>
> Just a reminder, this is tomorrow ...
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 04:27:29PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
> > Hello! For the September social, we're going somewhere we've not be
Just a reminder, this is tomorrow ...
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 04:27:29PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
> Hello! For the September social, we're going somewhere we've not been
> before - the Crown on Clerkenwell Green. We have the upstairs function
> room booked from 6:30pm. There's no bar up there
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:30:07PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:07:10PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote:
> >
> > However, you're after a fixed-price job, which costs more because the
> > contractor is taking on the extra risk of the job going pea
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 08:07:10PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote:
>
> However, you're after a fixed-price job, which costs more because the
> contractor is taking on the extra risk of the job going pear-shaped
> for reasons outside their control. And IMO, £500 isn't enough to cover
> that risk.
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When it comes to religion I think Hitler had some interesting ideas.
Note to self - write Acme::Siesta::Plugin::GodwinsLaw
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Ireland you do,
where in the its hay day, the RUC carried sub machine guns and
were generally escorted by army with fully automatic rifles and
a penchant for tracking you in the scopes despite what the regs
might have said,
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ctually get to use it[1].
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[1] To get an idea of compile speed,
http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/computing/performance.html
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tor
market (or at least deskilling it) seems like a bad idea.
ah well, maybe its time to be a plumber, after all if your loo breaks
you cant just expect employees to get by, you wouldn't expect them to
come to work every day and deal with a pile of shit after all - sadly
the same isn't tru
currently use Perl.
Greg
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hat cold was good it still didn't inspire
you to have more.
And before one of you beardy weirdy, raving CAMRA 'old guzzlers drollop
beer is especially fine due to the authentic gerbil droppings' lunatics
chirp in, you can get good lager, you just have to go to Germany
the google calculator, its very good ;-)
Greg
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Last time you made a wise crack like that you ended up auction your bra,
be careful what you suggest this time ;-)
Greg
p.s. also weird science style
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would like to come along, please email me offlist by say
monday evening and i shall book an appropriately sized table.
I'll probably bring my wife along, so it might be a good chance
to bring your own ``signficant other'' to meet some perl mongers.
That is all,
that we deserve
each other and hence play the cunning rouse of switching business
cards, h.
but never fear, as you can tell my highly detailed map, i know
exactly where it is! ;-)
G.
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list.
G.
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al/heretical
meetings have demonstrated our twin status conclusively in the past.
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long as it also involveds
beer/whisky/whiskey/bourbon. The only thing I can recall seeing
actively discouraged was whining about people discussing
beer/whisky/whiskey/bourbon. I really should resubscribe soon.
Greg
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party hats. And to help people find me, I'll be
> wearing (for one night only) one of the many totally unique tie-dyed
> Learning Perl t-shirts that Dan made.
>
will other people be wearing clothes they won at the auction - leon?
G.
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a nice buffy background image. or perhaps stars and stripes,
draig goch or tricolore as the background.
of course someone could organise a bid to give it a nice easy on the
eyes makeover and return it to a nice sensible design.
the key to winning is probably to get like minded people to join
you i
ve
a old style mini comfortably, the seats went really far back, so i guess it would
have been a problem if more than myself (a mere 6', but fairly 'broad') and him were
in the car.
i also seem to remember that mini's were great fun for hand brake turns - but
i was young and
* Rafael Garcia-Suarez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > So does anyone have anything that they think would sell?
>
> I could sell a running joke, or another recurrent mention of
> something, for the P5P summaries. - That's not like I was
> copying o
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
>
> > So does anyone have anything that they think would sell?
>
> I would just like to point out that I have already been auctioned off
> this month and that auctioni
you have two parties who disagree on it and
are willing to put some cash of their own and to persuade others to
help out to get the result they want.
Greg
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gt;
> And the reserve price is...
>
i believe embarassing pictures are best displayed 12'x8' via a
projector ;-)
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* Tim Sweetman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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> someone says "serendipity" and a bunch of neurons labelled "Dogma" light
> up, Metatron (Rickman)'s rant is very relevant.
>
indeed it was, but i shouldn't be talking about this just now, i'm not
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> From: "Greg McCarroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Some of us (Kake and I, and maybe others) are going to the pub tommorow
> > (thursday) night, we will be there from earlyish to lateish. The pub
> > that has
Anchor for me to decide if it
is still a fun pub or not after its refurbishment. If anyone is coming
for the first time to a social meet feel free to mail me off list for
a mobile number. Err not that this is an official social meet, its
just drinking by the river.
Greg
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ng 'Live long and
Prosper' and doing strange things with their hands be a bit of a
give way that the secret base is there?
Greg
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, Martyn Lewis and Michael Buerk as
they have only seen Balham through their MI5 TV spying devices.
Anyway Godwin's law is start to make strange creaking noises so I
best stop now.
G.
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* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> HP SureStore 2000 Tape Drive
> AIWA External SCSI CD-Rom (a buyer of one of the indys might
> like this, although both machines can install via the net
> thanks to their funky netboot proms)
>
* Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Some of the less interesting stuff that I will be getting rid of
> > includes,
> >
> > HP SureStore 2000 Tape Drive
>
> That's SCSI DAT right?
>
yip.
although both machines can install via the net
thanks to their funky netboot proms)
Sun Sparc Classic
feel free to make an offer on any of this stuff.
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this time I can't guarantee that we'll be able to get extra people into
> the hotel so make sure I get your details before Monday.
>
> More details here :
>
> http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm-announce/2003-May/56.html
>
> Simon.
>
> --
> &qu
that.
as for the colour of perl shurely its octarine wheter you are a pratchett
fan or not.
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the idea. Anyway
the interesting fact is that its population is less than the average
gate at a premiership match, and the England team still didnt beat
them in the recent match convincingly.
Anyway I'll return you to your normal service of meta discussion about
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> > however I can say that ML[1] is very rewarding until you try and
> > do anything involving interactive user input in it, then there is a
> > hurdle which you must cross a
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>
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> > It has to be said, that I wasn't fully expectant of that,
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