Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-29 Thread Daniel McGee
Why not subscribe to the mac4theblind list. It's quite a low traffic list, so I'm sure that new members are most welcome to join. Just my input, for what's it's worth. > On 26 Aug 2015, at 20:07, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Tyler, > > Are you aware that there are several other lis

Quick Mod note - A number of quick Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, I just want to send this quick note along first, to thank those of you who have offered their support to me and those I love. this truly means a lot to me and please know that this is not something I take lightly nor will forget. So thank you! Now, on to some quick list business; Firs

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Jessica Moss
I actually was curious about that myself, why not just tighten up on the rules concerning this list than spend time creating a new one? On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:46 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > > Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on 26/08/2015 at 05:29: >

list name/for Jonathan was Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan, I promised a last message on the last one and forgot I wanted to reply to this. I want to be totally honest here, I didn't really think about this slapping anyone in the face when it happened. When I started the list, my thought process was

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Shaf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 It's pretty ridiculous that this thread is more than 100 messages long. On 8/27/2015 2:55 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Hello: I'm a bit baffled by this response, because you're trying to > make Chris sound like this reasonable guy who sometimes

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello: I'm a bit baffled by this response, because you're trying to make Chris sound like this reasonable guy who sometimes just might slip with the f-bomb. This is not the case. Less than a month ago I said something that bothered him. I woke up to 20

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
essage - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" > To: Sent: > Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:25 AM Subject: Re: a new > macvisionaries list > > > You must be talking about a different Mailman, as on my site I > get: No manual entry for mailman > > Mailman 2.x, at least,

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
in a nutshell. I do acknowledge your concerns initially though. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:25 AM Subject: Re: a new macvisionaries list You must be talking about a different Mailman, as on my site I get: No manua

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
Because we and Chris’s ISP is in a free country. We do not legislate speech here. Our founders created the first amendment to support freedom of expression and the press. They made this the first amendment because it was to them the most important freedom that needed to be codified. Hate spe

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
First off, nothing Chris says or could say offends me or for that matter nothing anyone says on any of these mailing lists offends me or would chase me away. Secondly, I’ve actually taken the time to talk to Chris off line and also seen a whole different side to his responses on another

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
Good point There’s also the mac for the blind site that’s pretty low traffic but has a great signal to noise ratio and a very light moderation. I believe it’s mac4thebl...@freelists.org > On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Tyler,

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You must be talking about a different Mailman, as on my site I get: No manual entry for mailman Mailman 2.x, at least, stores its data in Python pickles, not SQL databases. Although I know about a third-party command-line tool (called mailmanadmin) which does most moderation from the shell or c

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
finitely doable. man mailman Go look at the man page. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:11 AM Subject: Re: a new macvisionaries list Freelists runs on Ecartis, a wonderful mailing list manager for its day, but I

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
M Subject: Re: a new macvisionaries list Hi, I wasn’t going to chime in here at all but rather see where this all goes, but here is what i think for what it’s worth: I agree with Donna on where this list should go. I’m not entirely sure branching off would be the best way of doing things because it w

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread r a gindin
sounds like an argument between the free-speechers and the would-be do-gooders. my ancestors said, "Never wish for a new Tsar." I monitor this list for my blind grandchild. While brilliant and a talented musician, her hand disabilities make it difficult for her to use a keyboard. ag On 8/

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Shaf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Set a filter for him. he's not worth your inbox space. On 8/27/2015 2:30 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Good for you! Stand in that delete power. I believe he is on > another list I am on, but since I understand that I am the one > writing the dicti

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
Good for you! Stand in that delete power. I believe he is on another list I am on, but since I understand that I am the one writing the dictionary of what I will allow to define me, I read what is relevant, and ignore the rest. I learn so much from the majority, that it seems disrespectful of

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I just laugh at the person when he writes the messages which people don't like. I don't care what he says. He does not worry me. I laugh and then I delete. > On 26 Aug 2015, at 10:48 pm, Rich Ring wrote: > > I am aware of who the individual who seems to like to get peoples feelings > stirred

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Ring
I am aware of who the individual who seems to like to get peoples feelings stirred up is, and since I know where my delete key is, I have no problem with this individual. This individual comes and goes, and unless excluded, he’ll be back! However, my delete key is a constant, not a variable, alt

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
well, if this party has threatened or used hate speech, you report them to the authorities. One does not well build a new house instead. ..not that you were asking me of course smiles. Why not report their conduct to the Internet provider? On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Yuma Decaux wrote: Scott, Wh

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Yuma Decaux
Scott, What are you really ttryint to get to? Take the same home analogy, or let’s say the social club analogy. A majority is agreeing that this guy is detrimental. It’s been months like this and in recent dates taking a culminating effect of driving the discussion towards what to do with him,

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Last he checked in with me, Saqib was still working at Microsoft. I too was around at the very beginning, but I’ve been on and off since. Of course, many of you will know that Cara very graciously took up the reins and has made her presence felt since that time, until she slipped into the shad

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Tyler, Are you aware that there are several other lists for VoiceOver users? The one that comes to mind immediately is Mac-Access, which is a very quiet list and I know there are others. I agree with Jonathan that using the name MacVisionaries is dishonest and you should find your own li

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread E.T.
Only the list owner can add new moderators. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 8/26/2015 9:29 AM, Mary Otten wrote: For whatever it may be worth, I really think the best thing would be to have new

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
I like your solution. People who want a little oversight can take that option and people who don’t are able to stay as is. Couldn’t be much more fair than that. I’d say to the folks concerned about fragmentation that happy users on the list even if fragments of the former list are probably bet

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Tyler and all. As someone who has participated in these sorts of forums for around 30 years, dating back to the FidoNet days, I generally have a policy of not fuelling the flames by making comments on the drama. I've also run many lists in my time, and like you, I don't agree that a totally h

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
Hello: I actually tried for the best of both worlds here. I’ve reached out to Cara numerous times, even mentioned her on twitter and gotten no response. This was the last solution for me, but one which I really do think will work. So I do want it known that I have exhausted all possibilities sho

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
I think its funny how people like to push the responsibility on to someone else instead of deal with it themselves. If you don’t want to invite someone in to your home then don’t. Nobody forces you to read anything. These are the same busy bodies who want content pulled on TV because someone

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
For whatever it may be worth, I really think the best thing would be to have new moderators on this list, rather than fragmenting the community. I know that is not a new idea as several have mentioned the same idea. I also don't agree with the wild West approach. I'm sorry. But when you send ema

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi All, As one of the older members of this list, I want to add an emphasis on how the filter does not really work as the replies and objections to the abuse still keep streaming in. Meaning I have to sift through fallout emails from the abuse, as well as replies commenting on how off topic thi

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I wasn’t going to chime in here at all but rather see where this all goes, but here is what i think for what it’s worth: I agree with Donna on where this list should go. I’m not entirely sure branching off would be the best way of doing things because it would only divide the community and

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Freelists runs on Ecartis, a wonderful mailing list manager for its day, but I’d agree, a rather tragic outpost of abandonware now. Hopefully Freelists have changed whatever it was that was still broken about the latest Ecartis, but I’ve since unhappily cut over to Mailman, which I hate with a

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Eric Oyen
there may be another reason for transitioning from here. Google groups web interface has been getting increasingly difficult to use over the last year or so. SInce I am on an older mac (2007 whitebook), I have noticed some of these issues more than most. THere is another problem with google grou

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
It does say a lot that the list is in the generally healthy state it’s in now, for sure. I like to think that’s just a kind of natural mutation resulting from pressures on opposing sides of the moderation extreme. However, much as I support a hands-off approach, I do feel that some of the nons

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
Viviana, you’re wrong. I actually live in a community that doesn’t have 24 hour policing. I moved there intentionally, that was a huge selling point. There are massive swaths of country that don’t have policing available. Whether it’s the woods like where I live or the Swamps in the south or

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Devin Prater
Indeed, she seems to be alive and well on the viPhone list, but we live overshadowed by a corpse on this one. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > OK, so I'm going to address the elephant in the room to which you eluded. > Cara, if you're out there, you

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Vivianna
Great! i will be joining today! just because this list used to be good in the past doesn’t mean we have to stay and hope, maybe someday, things get better. there are so many other relevent other lists around where i won’t have to delete so many posts every day. and, yes, we do need police. ana

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Devin Prater
I wish there was a tutorial on how to use rules. Not a podcast though, those are often too long with 10 minutes of explanation on what the podcast is about, when people already know what they chose to listen to. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Or

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
Oh no you Dit Int! ;) > On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > OK, so I'm going to address the elephant in the room to which you eluded. > Cara, if you're out there, you either need to mod the list yourself, or let > it go! Cara is like a ghost on this list. Nobody wants to "

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Alex Hall
Having a second Macvisionaries floating around may indeed prove confusing. I'll also say this: good luck with Freelists! I used them when I helped to moderate a BrailleNote list, and had no end of problems. Delayed delivery, random bounce problems and auto-moderated users, total failure of a reg

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Donna Goodin
OK, so I'm going to address the elephant in the room to which you eluded. Cara, if you're out there, you either need to mod the list yourself, or let it go! Cara is like a ghost on this list. Nobody wants to "step on her toes." She is part of our problem. From what i can tell, she seems to

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 this is me baiscally branching off, so you have to take action: subscribing to the list. Here's the info from my first message if it helps. It's worth saying here that neither of the moderators know about this--I can't even get a response from Cara, so

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Donna Goodin
I'm good with that, lol. You? A Brain-to-mouth filter problem? I can't imagine! :) Take care, Donna > On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Or here’s a counter idea, just create a rule that sends the offender to the > bit bucket automatically. Removes the slog and the offend

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey Donna, I'm going for exactly that, efficiency. I've had over 50 subscription requests which I think says a lot to what people want. I've ran this idea by Chris. He's not really even willing to fully moderate Chris gilland, so I don't think this is

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Alex Hall
Indeed, having an active moderator on this list would be the ideal solution. As others have said, this list already has a critical mass, and is one of the standard places many people are pointed to when seeking help with VoiceOver on the Mac. Cara popped up recently, so she's around. If Tyler co

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries
Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on 26/08/2015 at 13:43: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems on this list. Ok. Are we migrated automatically or do we have to take some action? -- You received this message because you

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
Or here’s a counter idea, just create a rule that sends the offender to the bit bucket automatically. Removes the slog and the offender at the same time.:) I use rules all the time not just for filtering out the undesirables but also to filter things like monitoring tool output in to a folder f

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Jamie Pauls
The only input I have hear is that I think the name of the new list should be changed to something other than Mac Visionaries. This is going to potentially cause a lot of confusion. If a new list is to be created, then why not start with a clean slate and give the new list a new name? Take ca

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Donna Goodin
Scott, as you know I'm basically in the same camp as you. When I modded the AIphone list, I was frequently criticized for being too lax. and i completely agree about the delete key and it's incredible value. :) However, unless you decide just not to read certain people's emails, you do end up

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, As some of you will no doubt recall, I brought this very possibility up some months back, when we were getting some rather unpleasant emails from someone's hacked account. It does seem to me that this list has had more problems of late, and that having someone setting some guidelines a

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
See this is where I differ although I think you make very valid points and as a side note I like your posts and automatically gave you more weight when I saw you digitally signing messages and using strong cryptography.:) I would say that who cares if someone curses. I in general think people a

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Scott, There's a vast difference in overly moderating and moderating of those who make the community unpleasant for others. For example, should someone receive an email cursing at them (which happens here pretty frequently), the problem gets solv

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I just wanted to reply to this with my thinking. I think each list is somewhat a community in that people read the messages every morning or whenever they can, reply and get something out of it. You give and take when you have questions is the w

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Scott Granados
I’m not sure moderation = good community. That’s like saying policing = a good community and I’d dare say the folks of Ferguson or South Carolina would disagree with that assertion.;) You bring up a good point I’m just wondering is the tightening of the rules going to necessarily translate in

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pam, I'll try to answer your questions. the new list does have a digest mode, which you can set if you sign up through the website. The second part of your email (or first, really) is more the reason why I created the list. Right now, anyone can

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems on this list. My last response on this list was cursed at and nothing is being done to stop it. As a result of the spam/cursing/general throwing of fits, I created a new list where rules can be enforce

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-26 Thread Pamela Francis
Hello, I have a list question. First, as helpful as this list has been through the years, there are times it does disintegrate into childish arguments. How is creating another list going to alleviate that issue?Second, does this list have a digest mowed therefore cutting down on the traffic? I b

Re: a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-25 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries
Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on 26/08/2015 at 05:29: Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something. Why a new list? What is going to happen to this one? Thanks. Gabriel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubsc

a new macvisionaries list

2015-08-25 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all: I understand there's been a lot of mess on this list and at least two people I know of have left--that's not counting however many vanished without saying anything. I believe this is a great community and I don't want to see it die off or f

iOS on the MacVisionaries list

2015-07-10 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Pasting from my post back in April: This comes up every now and then. Short answer is that the list is what folks make of it. Long answer is that the name is probably a bit of an anachronisim at this point. The list was founded years before iPhone OS became iOS and then became accessible with

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-30 Thread Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:06 PM >> Subject: Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list >> >> Donna, >> >> Don’t blame you one bit. You were pretty vilely used by this person. Your >> reaction seems pretty understandable. But

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list Donna, Don’t blame you one bit. You were pretty vilely used by this person. Your reaction seems pretty understandable. But, I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater yet

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread CJ Daniel
Donna, Don’t blame you one bit. You were pretty vilely used by this person. Your reaction seems pretty understandable. But, I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater yet. In fact, if your ready to take on the responsibility of being a mod, perhaps you could volunteer

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Gabe Vega Commtech LLC
my apple support vi list is both moded a very expert driven list. you get answers from real apple and tech experts who train professionally not by consumers giving guesses. send email to applesupportvi-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Gabe Vega CEO Com

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Donna Goodin
OK, since there does not seem to be clear consensus to start a new list--and there are good reasons not to--I will not move forward with that for now. If in the future the group decides they want a moded list, we can reopen the discussion then. Best, Donna > On Mar 29, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Gabe V

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread mário navarro
Yeah, I'm there... Em 29/03/2015 16:21, Kliph escreveu: I already have a alternant list. It’s peel the apple. And we cover mac, iPhone, iPad, appleTV, and even have a little open discussion on the weekends. There are 2 mods. We both monitor the list very closely, and make sure everyones pl

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread mário navarro
Hi believer. you have absolutely right. these disgusting rats criticize me, but they love the party... And now joined to dance the same music... They are all full of shit in their heads, and so do not think like people. Not yet realized that I'm play with them... In fact, they all are guilty

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Gabe Vega Commtech LLC
we also have a apple support list. send email to applesupportvi-subscr...@yahoogroups.com its a great list, very well managed by our staff, and the great John P. from Mac for the blind. check it out! Gabe Vega CEO Commtech LLC Web: http://commte

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread mário navarro
Ahahahahaha. You? You don't have intelligence to that you have monkey face,monkey head, you think like a monkey, and you like to take bananas in the ass. monkey gay, go suck bananas... lol! lol! Em 29/03/2015 16:03, Jose Lomeli escreveu: I'm in! I can co-moderate this new list. Jose Lome

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Kliph
I already have a alternant list. It’s peel the apple. And we cover mac, iPhone, iPad, appleTV, and even have a little open discussion on the weekends. There are 2 mods. We both monitor the list very closely, and make sure everyones playing and talking nice. We don’t police very often, and t

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, While I don’t disagree with the sentiment of this eMail, I do feel that action beyond the “Delete” key is necessary. If I was very new to the list, or possibly surfing the posts on the web trying to determine if I’d like to join this community, vulgar, insulting and disrespectful posts suc

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Jose Lomeli
I'm in! I can co-moderate this new list. Jose Lomeli Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hello all, > > One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly clear, is that this > list is no longer being moderated. This surprises me quite a bit, becaus

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Now you're being as obnoxious as he is. there is no need for you to insult me, or to imply that I'm unable to cope with life. I simply extended an offer to the list. That's all. I'm neither invested in having a different list, nor in becoming moderator. So now it's your turn to chill, don't

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Anne, Yes, I'm aware of the other Mac lists. I just made the offer in the event that this list community wants to stay in tact, but wants someone to take care of mod duties. Cheers, Donna > On Mar 29, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Donna, > > There are already several M

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread The Believer
How easily some people allow themselves to be manipulated via emails! I can only imagine what real life does to you. Some of you contimue to validate this twerp by pressing the reply button instead of the delete button. It amazes me how much power this little inconsequential "it" has

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Donna, There are already several Mac and iOS lists in existence. MacVisionaries has gone through periods like this before and has always recovered. Cheers, Anne > On 29 Mar 2015, at 12:11, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hello all, > > One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly c

Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Devin Prater
I think that'd be a good idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2015, at 5:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hello all, > > One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly clear, is that this > list is no longer being moderated. This surprises me quite a bit, because in > the early days

Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list

2015-03-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hello all, One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly clear, is that this list is no longer being moderated. This surprises me quite a bit, because in the early days of MacVisionaries, Cara was an extremely diligent moderator. I know she took on at least one co-mod a while back, b

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread John Panarese
hat ever happened with that. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: macvisionaries list > >

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
onday, December 31, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: macvisionaries list Is that person moderating the Macvisionary list? I thought he was just moderating the VI Phone list. I thought that Kara moderated the Macvisionary list unless i'm wrong? Kawal. On 31 Dec 2012, at 07:01 PM, John Panarese

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
s - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: macvisionaries list So complaining about it and pointing out what has been discussed here a few times by others will do what? I have two other friends waiting to get th

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
g the >> list. I'm not quite yet to that point of decision, but I'm slowly but >> surely considering it. I really don't want a list that isn't seemingly at >> least, managed at all. If I'm in the wrong, I'll be happy to open mouth, >> and ins

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread John Panarese
I've > offended anyone, I'm sorry, but I have the utmost intention to stick to my > guns until proven otherwise. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" >

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
st. I'm not quite yet to that point of decision, but I'm slowly but >> surely considering it. I really don't want a list that isn't seemingly at >> least, managed at all. If I'm in the wrong, I'll be happy to open mouth, >> and insert foot, but fro

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
to my guns until proven otherwise. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:01 PM Subject: Re: macvisionaries list I believe that one of the moderators explained to

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
x27;m not incorrect in my thought process. > > Anyway, good luck. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" > To: "macvisionaries" > Sent: Monday, Decemb

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread John Panarese
least, > managed at all. If I'm in the wrong, I'll be happy to open mouth, and insert > foot, but from what I see, I'm not incorrect in my thought process. > > Anyway, good luck. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Re: macvisionaries list The owner/moderator of the list will see his subscription request and should respond. Apparently it can take quite a long

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
oductions - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: Fwd: macvisionaries list I'm not sure how to respond. Does anyone know how he could get on this list? See below. Thanks. -- Forwarde

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Alex Hall
Gery Gaubert >> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:47:45 -0600 >> Subject: macvisionaries list >> To: mehg...@gmail.com >> >> I tried to subscribe and got a message that said I had to be invited to >> join the macvisionaries list. How do I go about getting invited? >>

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Harry Hogue
. Does anyone know how he could get on this > list? See below. Thanks. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Gery Gaubert > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:47:45 -0600 > Subject: macvisionaries list > To: mehg...@gmail.com > > I tried to subscribe and got a

Fwd: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure how to respond. Does anyone know how he could get on this list? See below. Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: Gery Gaubert Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:47:45 -0600 Subject: macvisionaries list To: mehg...@gmail.com I tried to subscribe and got a message that s

Re: Macvisionaries list and Gmail

2010-04-25 Thread Sarah Alawami
oups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Adams > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:35 PM > To: MacVisionaries > Subject: Macvisionaries list and Gmail > > Regarding Williams message below, I had also been confused when I would > reply to a message on this list but my reply did not show up

RE: Macvisionaries list and Gmail

2010-04-25 Thread Linda Adams
unday, April 25, 2010 3:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Macvisionaries list and Gmail As far as getting a copy of what you sent to the list if you are using Google email you will not get a copy. This is not just this list It is all email list. It is something with Google

RE: Macvisionaries list and Gmail

2010-04-25 Thread Joe Plummer
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Adams Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:35 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Macvisionaries list and Gmail Regarding Williams message below, I had also been confused when I would reply to a message on this

Macvisionaries list and Gmail

2010-04-25 Thread Linda Adams
Hi , moderators of the lists: macvoiceover and macvisionaries: It would be nice if posted mails should be visible also for the senders of the mails. I mean: in the macvisionaries list, the mails that I am sending, are not shown for me in the inbox of the mails from macvisionaries. On the mac