igate this kind of data so maybe they could
be dug up?
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interface::daemon
http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/
[snipped the rest which is fine]
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Do you have a URL for the .dsc and tarball
David
Teemu Ikonen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to compile / port some C libraries from Debian to Maemo 5.
> The actual compilation goes without problems, but the packaging
> scripts use the (very nice) command sequencer functional
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 15:07 +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 14:55, David Greaves wrote:
> >
> > Does the community really have so much spare resource that we can QA
> > non-free (and presumably non-community) apps?
>
> fms/RST38h's emulator
x27;t have unless it QA's them; from that PoV I think
providing a place for the app's userbase to QA the apps is fine but I
feel that they should be separate to a community queue.
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kaging this up as a desktop/app
mgr launch icon is the way to go. Nokia led the way with the 'ovi store' link.
Eventually maybe we'll see better presentation... but the issue may need
forcing.
I do worry about a proliferation of packaged web links though - I thin I'd like
some k
http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/Maemo_Diablo_Reference_Manual_for_maemo_4.1.pdf
p466
mohamed ismael wrote:
> hi,
> i built an executable file using the following command
> gcc `pkg-config --cflags --libs profile hildon-1` main.c -o main
>
> i want now to build a package to
at
>debian/package-name.png is a 26x26 PNG file.
You mean 48x48 pixels, right?
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging%2C_Deploying_and_Distributing#Icons
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On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 12:16 +0200, Gabriel Schulhof wrote:
> Hey, all!
>
> I added a package to the extras(-devel)? repositories called
> maemo-release. It has version 1.0.0 in gregale, 2.0.0 in bora, 3.0.0 in
> Chinook, etc. ...
Cool... what values did you pick
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cf talk is
substantially less than the barrier to entry of a private school.
Anyone from talk is welcome to join the list provided they plan on
engaging in development oriented discussions (and yes, they do meander -
no-one cares *that* much).
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professional: spreadsheets, sync apps
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y programs result in nothing?
Ah, the actual point :)
(and a good one too).
Alongside 'user/*' I wonder if we should have a 'geek/*' section ?
Or make 'user/development' and some other categories only visible if
enabled in preferences.
Personally I think we're ba
lls you something over 0.0.1):
> the Application Manager only shows things of the form (\d+)(\.\d+)*?
>
> So, the example of 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu6maemo1 would
> just appear as 2.0.0 in the view.
/me would be confused.
Why is it upgrading 2.0.0 to 2.0.0 *ag
Ryan Abel wrote:
> One thing I think it might be worth working on is the user-
> friendliness of the version strings of packages in Extras. We want the
> Application manager to be as friendly and approachable for the average
> user as possible and long incomprehensible lines of alphanumerics a
date the websites from the www/ path in the Git
repository is run every twenty minutes, I think.
>You can see my progress history here:
>
>https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=hermes;a=summary
>
>As you'll see, I committed my new files last ni
I appreciate all the responses. As i suspected, this is one of those
things that is confusing when starting out, but very straightforward
once up to speed.
I have the package for libmikmod2 ready to upload when i get
permission, and have also got the much more challenging game package
that depends
The nokia internet tablets are a steal!
I would love to see more linux-enabled devices being used in small business.
And maybe, if these tablets get enough attention, nokia can roll out a hardy
mobile device running maemo that's designed for industrial environments.
kage (2) modify package (3) create new package. It's the details of
how to best do this that i'm wondering about.
Assume i know nothing and you'll probably be the closest to
understanding my question. ;)
On 10/23/09, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
> El vie, 23-10-2009 a las 00:37 -0400, Da
Here's a question for you whiz kids: what's the best way to go about
packaging up a library that already exists, e.g. in debian, for Maemo?
Presumably the process is easier than starting from scratch, but after
fiddling around with various things and some nice help on IRC, i got
nuttin.
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On 2009-10-22 11:37, Niels Breet wrote:
>Hi,
>On Wed, October 21, 2009 17:28, David King wrote:
>> I uploaded glom 1.12.2-0maemo2 to extras-devel yesterday evening, which
>> built fine. However, looking at:
>>
>> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/
dependency warning, that is not present in the 1.12.2-0maemo2
version (which I uploaded to fix exactly this problem). I can install
1.12.2-0maemo2 on an N900, so the dependency problem does not seem to
be an issue, but maybe the package description is somehow stale?
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of malware introduced into an OSS
product and we (and Nokia) could lose a lot of credibility.
I wonder how much that could be worth to some people? Maybe worth a deliberate
attack? Maybe someone is playing a longer game?
I just hope we are not planning on taking the "cross your fingers and toes
*REA
I realise this is a slightly different question (hence the new subject)
OK, say I have an evil twin who wants to attack ('own') a lot of Nokia N900
devices. How do I do this?
Does extras-testing factor into this?
David
tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
> - Original message -
o the I/O
This afternoon I created a garage project and then wrote an article:
http://mer-l-in.blogspot.com/2009/09/want-to-push-need-kickstart.html
Never mind...
Hmm, can I get dispensation to enter PUSH using a $100 SmartQ ?
Maybe I could run ssh from the N900 and have the N900 drive a Maemo po
#x27;s in usb-host mode?
>
> Greetings
>
> [1] http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/
I saw the interesting responses to the 'hijack' about gadget mode - but did you
get an answer to the host mode question Kees?
I'm quite interested in this too...
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where is the D-Bus call documented (sample code would be enough ;).
Try this
http://blogs.gnome.org/tthurman/2009/09/03/writing-apps-for-the-n900-part-1/
This came up a few days back; subject: Proper Way To Call Browser (Fremantle)
there's a bit more in that thread
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; We actually seem to be in agreement here: Fremantle packaging decisions
> should take other systems (OS2008, Mer, etc.) into account.
Sure - lets chalk it down to email missing the nuances :)
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Marius Vollmer wrote:
> ext Thomas Perl writes:
>
>> 2009/9/9 Marius Vollmer :
>>> ext David Greaves writes:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, seems like another solution would be to have the opt partition
>>>> mounted as
>>>> /usr and install all
Doable - but to expect other devs to do that?
At the moment 'porting' an app is usually a semi-automated process.
Having to figure out the debian/rules for each and then hacking their
./configure to --prefix=/opt
Oh boy
PLEASE don't require a ./configure change
optify is th
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Greaves wrote:
>
>> Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>>> * Use of /opt is perhaps now a QA requirement for Extras
>>>> * Can we somehow add a /opt check into minima
7;s not an artificial obstacle, it's a way to work around the sad
reality that VFAT is a.) de facto standard, b.) a seriously useless file
system, c.) most users are unable to cope with better alternatives.
But by all means, if you think this is an artificial obstacle, please
suggest alternative so
e only maemo. Maemo4 is the latest
> availble for N800/N810 and maemo2 is the latest officailly available on
> 770. Many packages can compile from same source for all versions. Don't
> add artificial obstacles to force developers to make their packages
> incompatible with olde
t doesn't know what scp is.
IMHO we have three options:
- Real VFAT (with all the drawbacks it brings)
- VVFAT
- A separate program (PC Suite, most likely) to do the transfers
(probably leaving Linux and MacOS users out in the cold)
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ot see technical limits, but
> maybe someone should just code a relevant kernel module (the virtual
> VFAT loopdevice ;) if that does not exist.
Patches happily accepted!
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s to /root_usr/ and then
it works without /usr mounted and when it is overmounted by the other partition
it wouldn't change.
Then /usr would be much like Debian upstream - the place to install larger data
files
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Kees Jongenburger wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I assume you want to present to also have some discussion. so let's
> start with that. This is all IMHO.
Sure.
> I don't believe that version control system is what is keeping us back
> from collaborating. I do use git mys
okia.osso_browser.load_url string:"http://www.google.com";
>
Brent, try this too - it shows usage of the interface daniel refers to.
http://blogs.gnome.org/tthurman/2009/09/03/writing-apps-for-the-n900-part-1/
I assume C - I'm doing something similar in python later too
t is a good idea to start from making a list on Qt to function exactly
> like it functions on the Hildon.
I've asked Antontio to start a project so we can create a set of hildon-widgets.
IIRC we also need to do dbus integration too.
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s coming ...
Cool - what's the gitorious url ;)
We have:
http://gitorious.org/qt-maemo
So:
http://gitorious.org/qt-maemo/hildon-widgets sounds good
Antonio ... want to set it up? (I can't)
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We have these figures from the maemomm project:
http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs_unstable/tutorial/figures/
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nd Qt - maybe not so much for others?
Jamie Bennett wrote:
> Please see my comments in-line below.
>
> On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 12:57 +0100, David Greaves wrote:
>> I proposed a talk at the summit on DVCS and git and it has not been accepted
>> by
>> t
Graham Cobb wrote:
>However, time is limited and if it has to be bumped for other
> good sessions then so be it.
Fully agree.
My intention was to raise it and sound out the developers.
see Jamie's comments too.
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opportunity that we shouldn't miss.
Equally there must be developers in Nokia/Trolltech who could say "we know this
stuff and this is how we think you might want to do it."
So... speak now...
David
PS If anyone fancies collaborating and doing a multi-person presentation then
be great for the Maemo docs; it
needs some work but...
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Mer build needs:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build
I've started some light blogging about how we use OBS:
http://mer-l-in.blogspot.com/2009/08/make-distro.html
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Ed Bartosh wrote:
> 2009/8/26 David Greaves :
>> Ed Bartosh wrote:
>>> 2009/8/26 Graham Cobb :
>>>> Will it handle build dependencies? I.e. if I create an autobuild tag for
>>>> libaaa and also for application-aaa (with a build dependency on libaaa),
PI-incompatible version...
Without dependency tracking no-one even notices. So whilst they may not clamour
for it, they probably do need it.
Oh, and OBS is looking at exactly the same tag->build too. Seems a shame that
there are so many partially finished wheels around...
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On tis, 2009-08-25 at 09:25 +0200, ext Cornelius Hald wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 23:39 +0300, David Weinehall wrote:
> > On mån, 2009-08-24 at 22:12 +0200, ext Cornelius Hald wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 23:07 +0300, David Weinehall wrote:
> > > > MCE
On mån, 2009-08-24 at 22:12 +0200, ext Cornelius Hald wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 23:07 +0300, David Weinehall wrote:
> > MCE only listens to the system bus, maybe this is your problem?
>
> Unfortunately not, I tried both the system bus and the session bus. On
> both I get t
_init(&error);
> reply = dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block(connection, message,
> -1, &error);
>
>
> I hope someone can help, oh and by the way I'm a DBus noob, so it might
> be
guess is
used in PyMaemo too? Our other tool for wrapping a C API to a C++ API
is gmmproc, which does much of the more clever transformations, for
example changing NULL to 0. I guess that a lot of this would not be
relevant for PyMaemo, but the gmmproc tool is in glibmm if you are
interest
more details.
>- Should a garage page be created ?
Only if you have Maemo-specific changes, and don't plan on merging them
into nano upstream, I would say.
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> import from debian/ubuntu, really).
>
> Version I compiled is 0.6.4, from Jaunty repos.
Hmm, let me just apt-get install emacs in my Mer SDK; yep
and gud... yep that's fine.
All running in arm under qemu... yep.
Cool.
David
PS Heh - now if only apt-get source worked we&#
another crack on the 19th.
The main skills needed are going to be packaging related although if you
know about cross-compiling and are around then (hopefully) we may have
some questions at some point.
If you are interested and feel you can help then please let me know and
turn up; if you're no
Kees Jongenburger wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David Greaves wrote:
>> Graham Cobb wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 08 July 2009 12:35:35 Ed Bartosh wrote:
>>>> There is such a tool and autobuilder is uses it.
>>>> It's called sbdmock and you can f
thing and see if that fixes the problem, etc, etc?).
OBS (which we're using in Mer) does something like this too
http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build
Everything builds from a pristine chroot.
I'm working on creating a pseudo package called 'sdk' which gives you more of
what you
ll this help?
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3878
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remove "homekey;" from the Modules.
Note that this will affect all uses of the home key, so don't do this on
general purpose devices.
There might be more fine-grained ways to disable it, but none that I
know of.
Hope this helps.
Regards: David
Tatu, could you post a link to your code? I'm really interested in seeing an
example of the addressbook connectivity.
Also I came across this:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3878
which may be useful.
David
Tatu Lahtela wrote:
> Ok talking to my self now :)
>
> Thanks An
I thought this would be of interest to the list.
Also some good comments here: http://lwn.net/Articles/338715/
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David Greaves wrote:
> Murray Cumming wrote:
>> I'm going to buy some BeagleBoards for the Openismus office.
>> http://beagleboard.org/
>> I'd like to try installing Maemo 5 on them, which I believe is possible,
>> and which will be a learning experience.
>
heap SmartQ 5/7, install Mer on it,
disable Mer and run VNC or just remote X.
presto... untethered display (or use a USB cable for that 20th century feel)
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Ah, yes
now if you'd said madduck on #vcs-pkg then I'd have known ;)
We've discussed this a bit and he's advised me. I'm going to publish this to
their mailing list and you may well recognise the diagrams on my page and those
on vcs-pkg.org...
hink there is room for lots of innovation here.
I've just updated this... not had chance to proof read it even :)
http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/UsingGitorious
nb Maint diagram is missing a yellow tag dot at the very least
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Hi
I realise that we spend a lot of time on irc and it may be worth mentioning some
things on email.
First off - please ask if there are any Mer questions... I'll do my best to
answer.
I've updated pages around here recently:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build
There is a step-by-step guide to i
ny current system :-)
Just thinking that it would be interesting and productive for Nokians to do a
trawl of WONTFIXes and add "but if I were going to fix it, this is where I'd
start"... and then possibly work with us on re-assigning them to an appropriate
Mer category...
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tives.
I understood that GL wasn't going to be available to the apps on the device...
something about the window manager permanently taking the only viewport?
I am not sure if this is a beta-phase bug or a hardware or GLES issue.
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n we look at maemo on a slightly
squarer device with a different windowmanager layout.
Surely
XRRScreenChangeNotifyEvent
should be supported since this actually provides 'orientation' which is what IU
the UI guidelines suggest working to.
Maybe even abstracted to a hig
d others think that if a package P with a given version X is uploaded and
fails to build then a subsequent attempt to upload package P version X should
not be rejected.
Once package P version X has been successfully built then a subsequent attempt
to upload package P version X should be rejected.
a test install and see if you need to tweak a path
or something; again you don't record all that in different changelog entries.
IMHO promotion/publish is the only time an autobuilder should refuse to run if
the version is <= the last published version.
Antonio Aloisio wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> IMHO most of the extended hildon widgets could be dropped.
> Hildon widgets like hildon banners instead need to be integrated inside Qt.
Agreed - there are many Qt widgets which could simply be hildonised.
I wonder about session management and
hese in Hildon Qt?
In which case it would be good to identify and prioritise targets and
achievements and it would also be nice to have reference information for IPC for
things like system interaction.
I also wonder about better handling for applications not written for Maemo;
sho
thoughts are that it should really be triggered by some kind of
focus/cursor-set event (is there one?)
Also I wonder about using dynamic properties...
Should the keyboard query the object for a "no-hildon-keyb" property and not
display one if it is set?
David
ps cc'ing qt4-devel
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7;s a big text view occupying a
> significant part of the screen.
Personally I think the developer should have the choice :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxAIScXQvk
Look at 3:20 onwards
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xplaining your solution :)
Err
I implemented that into the framework so it *is* an "out of the box solution"
for Qt :)
I kinda meant that it could/should be doable for the pannable gtk too.
Nb the source to both is available so you can see how I did it in Qt and port it
and submit i
nning gesture. If it was the queue
was discarded; if not the events were replayed to the correct widgets.
The decision was simply delta mouse movement within a time period.
This allowed selection and even drag'n'drop to "just work".
David
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out-of-the-box tablet. Extras, we hope, would be suitable.
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is called extras-devel; feel free to add it to your sources.list
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he
equivalent of http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qapplication.html#globalStrut-prop -
but I guess you use gtk)
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Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers wrote:
sig:
question = ( to ) ? be : ! be;
PATCH:
- question = ( to ) ? be : ! be;
+ question = ( to ) ? be : be;
since:
to -> be, (! to) -> be => question
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you hooks into a few areas and some well defined but well
linked breakpoints for the project. It also lets you link to non-python
solutions.
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e dbus for WS_HILDON
David
Antonio Aloisio wrote:
> Hi,
> IMHO using the Qt D-Bus API to rewrite some parts of libosso is more
> easy that resolve the symobls, load and use libosso in Qt.
> Kimmo said adding D-Bus dependencies in the widget is ugly, I agree
> with him.. but...
sso/ossodm.nsf/WebAllByID2/DSD07052-EN
> (currently in Nokia intranet only)
Ah, I don't have that - can you post it?
> As I said, Hildon widgets and Gtk do not use libosso at all (it would be
> quite ugly since libosso depends on D-Bus connections).
agreed - I
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 14:44 +0100, ext David Greaves wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Crossposting as I think this is a maemo-dev question of interest to Qt devs
>> :)
>>
>> I am having a problem with my Qt applications and the osso window manage
ide
hdwm.startupnotification or starting
Nor do I see it on the dbus-monitor --session when my gtk app runs.
Any pointers?
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rder to get the very
same original binary (or at least one that performs similarly?
Best regards,
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>
> If yes, what's the instruction for generating the
> PACKAGE_VERSION_*.changes file?
If you build the Debian packages (.deb) the *proper* way (using
dpkg-buildpackage or debuild), then you get the .changes file
automatically (together with a .dsc file,
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 08:40 +0200, Quim Gil wrote:
>
> ext David Hagood wrote:
> > OK, fair enough, but then here's what I see Nokia needs to do in order
> > to enable that:
>
> Thanks for the input! Do you mind filing enhancement requests at
> http://bugs.maemo
>From previous comments by Nokia, the reason that SMB support is being
dropped is that Gnome VFS support is being dropped, and that was how SMB
was being supported in the previous versions.
OK, I can understand that: I always felt that userspace was the wrong
place to manage file systems anyway.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext David Horn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since rm and tar will disappear as part of dpkg removing diablo
>>>> busybox prior to installing my new busybox (as already discussed, this
>>
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I put CC to maemo-devel.
>
> ext David Horn wrote:
>>
>> I just wanted to see if I could help out with the issue of busybox
>> .deb packaging, and the issue of symlinks and conflcts.
>>
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e-Bluetooth-Data-Logger-Receiver/dp/B000NK3G2Q
iBlue 747
(because that's essentially a hardware requirement unless you're wish-listing
for the N9xx)
David
PS Really - the 747 sounds perfect for whay you want - rugged, small, long
lasting, excellent GPS performance.
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Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Friday 24 October 2008 16:46:12 Sarah Newman wrote:
>> David Greaves wrote:
>>> I propose:
>>> * The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
>>> * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
>> GPE seconded FWIW. I migh
Quim Gil wrote:
> More?
I propose:
* The GPE suite (especially synchronising)
* Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly)
David
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Ryan Abel wrote:
> Any alternative suggestions?
Fraemo ?
David
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- so I can test install to a fresh system.
David
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make predictions about other components, but for the battery
software a well-educated guess is "Never", and the reasons are manifold:
possible liability issues, patents, and the fact that it's software
developed by another branch of Nokia rather than interna
day - if this was lkml and the flood of messages drowned
you out (or if you intend to flood the list!) then I'd understand; equally if
you were working on something that was not maemo-specific then it would make
sense.
Otherwise I'd like to see you hang out here :)
David
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