Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience

2011-08-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/31/2011 12:16 AM, ext-iekku.pyl...@nokia.com wrote: Hi all, Want to remind about the changes. I haven’t received any comments about the adding other UX stuff to Handset UX. See all the conversation from: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-July/thread.html Shane Bryan

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Wireless network is no longer detected on Lenovo hybrid netbook

2011-08-16 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/16/2011 1:48 PM, Bogdan Cristea wrote: On Sunday 14 August 2011 23:16:11 you wrote: On 8/14/2011 1:09 PM, Bogdan Cristea wrote: I have updated MeeGo to kernel 2.6.37.2-8.43 on a Lenovo hybrid netbook, but the wireless connection is no longer available. With the default MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Wireless network is no longer detected on Lenovo hybrid netbook

2011-08-14 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/14/2011 1:09 PM, Bogdan Cristea wrote: I have updated MeeGo to kernel 2.6.37.2-8.43 on a Lenovo hybrid netbook, but the wireless connection is no longer available. With the default MeeGo installation (1.1.99.0.20110330) everything worked fine, but the configured repository was no longer

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What is hibernate status?

2011-08-12 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/12/2011 5:30 AM, Roman Borisov wrote: Hello All, I was trying to enable suspend to disk functionality on several platforms; the meego reference release does not include or enable hibernate, and we don't test it. But it seems your kernel is from an OS vendor who customized it; I would

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What is hibernate status?

2011-08-12 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/12/2011 10:44 AM, rborisov wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 07:49 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 8/12/2011 5:30 AM, Roman Borisov wrote: Hello All, I was trying to enable suspend to disk functionality on several platforms; the meego reference release does not include or enable hibernate

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling Pulseaudio

2011-08-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/2/2011 8:46 AM, Clark, Joel wrote: Have you tried cloning the pulseaudio package in the build server and letting OBS build it for you? This is what most of the dedicated MeeGo developers do for projects that don't have a meego gitorious home. That's also why they don't notice when

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Tablet 1.2 system not responses at Qt applicaiton exit

2011-07-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/31/2011 7:58 PM, Dong Li wrote: Hi list, I've got a problem while programming with Qt on Intel Oaktrail platform. In order to improve the application performance, I took use of the Qt raster backend [void QApplication::setGraphicsSystem ( const QString system )], and the proformance was

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Sharing Framework plugin in Harmattan

2011-07-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/30/2011 3:14 AM, Tuomas Kulve wrote: Hi interesting harmattan question snipped you probably should ask your question on a harmattan forum, not on this meego forum; different enough technologies to matter... (meego uses a different security technology, and at least on tablet, we use a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Looking for documents to Meego Common Componets

2011-07-29 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/29/2011 3:02 PM, David Boosalis wrote: Anybody know the answer to the question I posted yesterday (See below) Are there any Qt-Quick components to use for Meego tablet. Looking for buttons, labels, toolbars, etc look at the meego-ux-components package in the distro

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-kernel] at90usbkey sample firmware (HID mouse) / touch-screen

2011-07-26 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Where to get at90usbkey sample firmware (HID mouse) driver? Set the kernel config file, or add patch? I would suggest asking the hardware supplier for a Linux driver, since I don't think we have a driver (or device!) with this controller in it. ___

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-kernel] at90usbkey sample firmware (HID mouse) / touch-screen

2011-07-25 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/25/2011 8:03 PM, weihua.zhang wrote: Kok, Auke-jan H 写道: 2011/7/25 weihua.zhang weihua.zh...@cs2c.com.cn: Hello, I've just acquired an Atom tablet PC with a touchscreen. The screen appear to be a USB HID device, showing up in lsusb as Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03eb:201c Atmel Corp.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Error drm/i915 can't work without intel_agp module DURING INSTALL

2011-07-14 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/13/2011 8:48 PM, 张巍华 wrote: Hi all. I'm trying to install MeeGo to my PC but everytime it gives me an error. USB boot. Welcome to Meego! it says and from 3 options I choose Installation Only and press Enter. so you're not using a netbook or the like (not a pinetrail board), you are using

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Bringing up Genivi - Borg on Lenovo s10-3T

2011-07-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/6/2011 3:51 AM, dhaval bc wrote: hi all, Has anyone tried to bring up Meego IVI 1.2 on lenovo S10-3t??? i found the a link http://wiki.meego.com/IVI-LenovoS10-3t on meego wiki which specifies steps for Installing Meego IVI on the Lenovo S10-3t. but UI doesn't come up :( Xorg fails, it's

Re: [MeeGo-dev] creating image for oaktrail platform using mic-image-creator

2011-07-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/6/2011 7:30 PM, bradleyyan wrote: It is my mistake,I forgetten to install install related packages. also make sure to upgrade your firmware; this was a bug in early firmwares that got since fixed... ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/1/2011 9:29 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:14:17 -0700 Andy Rossa...@plausible.org wrote: On 07/01/2011 08:33 AM, Éric Seigne wrote: so meego don't need a file manager for tablet, thanks a lot, i don't waste my time. At the risk of adding more paint to the bikeshed: I

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/1/2011 3:43 PM, Florent Viard wrote: Hi, Stop considering the regular user as a stupid guy/girl that needs to have everything reduced to only one button. Most of the users never had problem to understand and use file managers as soon as they are used to. (Otherwise, windows wouldn't have

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-releases] New Bugzilla product MeeGo Distribution Packages has been created.

2011-06-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/29/2011 11:57 PM, eric.le-r...@nokia.com wrote: I hear you but isn't moving a bug to another component an important enough event it's worth recording it in an inline comment on the bug? I would say not. the component is metadata and does not add value to the bug itself it doesn't

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-releases] New Bugzilla product MeeGo Distribution Packages has been created.

2011-06-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/30/2011 7:02 AM, eric.le-r...@nokia.com wrote: I have a very simple idea on bugs; the value of a bug lies in its ability to fix something in the OS that makes the OS better. Anything else around the bug is either neutral or overhead. Now that you put it this way, I'm more than convinced

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-releases] New Bugzilla product MeeGo Distribution Packages has been created.

2011-06-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/30/2011 7:10 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com writes: On 6/29/2011 11:57 PM, eric.le-r...@nokia.com wrote: I hear you but isn't moving a bug to another component an important enough event it's worth recording it in an inline comment on the bug? I

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-releases] New Bugzilla product MeeGo Distribution Packages has been created.

2011-06-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/30/2011 10:11 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Developers seeing bugs that they are able to fix helps the bugs get fixed. If a module developer is searching for open bugs in his module and doesn't find any, then that's a problem. exactly; this is what the change is solving; each source package

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-releases] New Bugzilla product MeeGo Distribution Packages has been created.

2011-06-29 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/29/2011 2:05 AM, eric.le-r...@nokia.com wrote: So I guess you could remind anyone on your side involved into moving the bugs that it's mandatory to at least put a comment with the reasoning behind the action. so as a user of bugzilla I strongly disagree with your statement. I use the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Execute automatically a script at statup in meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.1.90.2.20110209.4

2011-06-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/26/2011 7:44 AM, Bogdan Cristea wrote: I would like to execute at startup a script allowing to launch synergy client. I have put this script in /etc/init.d and made a soft link to the script in /etc/rc5.d, but the client is not running. What is the approach I need to this is very invalid

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Execute automatically a script at statup in meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.1.90.2.20110209.4

2011-06-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/27/2011 1:02 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: Hey Bogdan, consider adding the script call on /etc/rc.local. As i remember, the default runlevel for MeeGo is 3, not 5, so adding it to rc3.d might work also. On our sollution the package containing the daemon creates a .desktop on

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Netbook image screen size and resolution

2011-06-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/27/2011 11:04 AM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: Hello all, Looking at http://wiki.meego.com/Netbook_Design_Guide there is a paragraph saying that the smallest resolution is 1024x600 but this isn't the case for 7 display. Sometimes the 7 is only available in 800x480. Is there any

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where to post bug reports for Maemo 6 Harmattan?

2011-06-22 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/21/2011 9:29 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hi, Could anybody explain me where to post bug reports for Maemo 6 Harmattan [1]? To maemo.org Bugzilla [2] or to MeeGo Bugzilla [3]? primarily you should report bugs to the vendor of the device (Nokia) or of the OS (also Nokia.. but maemo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Add login in meego using uxlaunch

2011-06-16 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/16/2011 7:30 PM, bradleyyan wrote: Hi all, Did anybody had developed multi-user login function like gdm for meego? I had planed to use uxlaunch and modify it to realize multi-user login. meego is currently multi user; this goes unfortunately quite a bit further than just the login

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Call for ideas - preprocessor #define for meego version (Q_MEEGO_VER ?)

2011-06-13 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/13/2011 3:12 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:05:41 -0700 Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 6/13/2011 2:57 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: It feels like it has been maybe 6 months or so, time to bring this up again: why isn't there a way to determine the physical

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Call for ideas - preprocessor #define for meego version (Q_MEEGO_VER ?)

2011-06-13 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/13/2011 3:27 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: But it could be worse than you think. The size info would be useful for displays that are not build into the meego device. Docking stations, projectors and the like. That is where it gets really interesting, and uxlaunch probably has less control. the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Call for ideas - preprocessor #define for meego version (Q_MEEGO_VER ?)

2011-06-13 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/13/2011 3:42 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: The problem is that actual dimensions, resolution and DPI are tied to one another. Some systems are known to force the DPI value at a specific number and they do that by changing the actual dimensions reported by X. I've seen this even presented as a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Cutting MeeGo 1.3 install footprint, locales?

2011-06-10 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/10/2011 1:54 PM, Carsten Munk wrote: Hi, One of the bigger users of space in the images is /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive, which takes up 99mb uncompressed. is this based on ls output, or after taking sparse files into account ? also, our filesystem compresses as you know; how well

Re: [MeeGo-dev] setting TERM in environment

2011-06-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/6/2011 9:20 AM, Robin Burchell wrote: Hi, I've been doing some cursory kicking of the tires of the (very recently released) meego-terminal (https://gitorious.org/meego-terminal/meego-terminal/), and one thing that came up pretty quick when I tried to run top was that TERM wasn't set.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Initrd on Kernel to mount root with UUID

2011-06-05 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/5/2011 3:08 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote:odd; our installer, bootloader and kernel configuration actually should not allow this to happen can you reproduce this with the meego reference set of these ? I will try to reproduce this problem with default MeeGo image, the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Initrd on Kernel to mount root with UUID

2011-06-05 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/5/2011 6:48 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: Hello Arjan, thanks for helping me. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.com mailto:ar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 6/5/2011 3:08 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote:odd; our installer

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Initrd on Kernel to mount root with UUID

2011-06-04 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/4/2011 3:00 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: Hello folks, how are you? I'm facing an interesting problem and i think that the solution is simple, but i'd like to discuss it on the list. The MeeGo kernel doesn't use an initrd, to make it faster on boot, i guess. The problem i'm

Re: [MeeGo-dev] mssf-crypto and password-based encryption

2011-06-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/1/2011 8:15 PM, Xun Sun wrote: Hi, MeeGo release 1.1.99 (MeeGo) Tablet version We are trying to port a C application to MeeGo of the above version. The application uses a self-grown password-based encryption scheme, where a master key is derived from user password and used for symmetric

Re: [MeeGo-dev] mssf-crypto and password-based encryption

2011-06-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Thanks for your reply. Any comments on the first question - if the MSSF framework is fully functional now? no MSSF has been removed from the OS. ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/31/2011 9:12 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: On wto 31 maj 2011 11:41:17 CEST, Sander van Grieken san...@outrightsolutions.nl mailto:san...@outrightsolutions.nl wrote: What about a multi-arch RPM approach, where binaries for multiple architectures are contained in a single RPM, but where only

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/31/2011 9:40 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: On wto 31 maj 2011 18:14:56 CEST, Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.com mailto:ar...@linux.intel.com wrote: just we have a way of distributing binaries that's slightly more finegrained than the android model and our output of the build ends up

Re: [MeeGo-dev] about uxlaunch support a command line option with enable/disable xsession-errors feature

2011-05-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/30/2011 1:23 AM, steven wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 10:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 16:05 +0800, steven wrote: currently when uxlauncher start a new user session, it will redirect stderr/stdout to file xsession-errors, and all x client will write their log

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to sync with the network time server in meego?

2011-05-30 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/30/2011 5:08 AM, steven wrote: Hi, as for NTP, I remember that timed middleware also support NTP, and this middleware is included in meego compliance group, so I think if we want to use NTP time, we should use timed's interface for future compliance. timed is not part of compliance! It's

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Top Application in Meego Tablet

2011-05-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/27/2011 5:37 PM, Niels Mayer wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the answer is that the concept of top application outright does not exist. Assuming we're talking the Window System X and its standards, then yes it does

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Top Application in Meego Tablet

2011-05-23 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/23/2011 2:30 AM, Vivek Talwar wrote: Hi Rusty, Top Application means the UI Application which stays on top of other applications . We generally do this in Qt by setting windows flag stay on top. So what we have observed in Meego tablet version

Re: [MeeGo-dev] D-Bus APIs on QML

2011-05-15 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/15/2011 12:35 PM, Tom Swindell wrote: Hi, Currently, unfortunately, there is no way to integrate with dbus from QML directly. The easiest way is to write a C++ wrapper which exposes your QML friendly methods and handles making the dbus calls. I appreciate that this isn't ideal if

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/10/2011 1:42 AM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:29 +0300, Sakari Poussa wrote: That (Qt5) is a vision with timeline. It's not 10 years, it is 1+ year as you can read from the blog. These are big and complex things which need long cycles to be planned and communicated

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/10/2011 2:16 AM, Murray Cumming wrote: I hope to see some official acceptance for Maalit in Meego 1.3. After all, it's gotta have a serious input method framework. The libmeegotouch dependency seems to be the only problem so far. But you need to be loud, clear and direct to Nokia that they

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-architecture] MeeGo Compliance, specifically IVI

2011-05-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/7/2011 5:03 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: Hello, I'd like to discuss a specific area of compliance for IVI systems. Before I get to the subject matter, I'd like to know if I'm following the correct process so I can address the right people. My first stop was the MeeGo wiki where I searched

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/6/2011 8:04 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: Hi, I was surprised to find libmeegotouch in MeeGo Core package group (as a dependancy, I think) for 1.3. Is this intentional and if not, is it fair game to send patches to help reduce dependancies to libmeegotouch in the core system? Examples are

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/6/2011 12:45 PM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:46 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: MTF as a whole got deprecated with less than minimal resources on it... That's not quite what the git logs say. I count 60 commits for this Friday alone. Looks rather well maintained

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt/QML or Meego Touch Framework?

2011-05-03 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On + Will be developed open soon and is thus completely irrelevant. sorry. too little too late. we're shipping in 2 weeks whatever we do afterwards better be compatible with what we shipped, or we will likely pass on inclusion. ___ MeeGo-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance and Qt Commercial license

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5 Hi, I'm a bit confused, so MeeGo compliant OS can only be compliant if it uses the exact packages from MeeGo? So it is not about the API's but about the exact packages? correct, you must use the MeeGo packages and packaging. Of course you can add bugfixes/etc... the tools are there

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt/QML or Meego Touch Framework?

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/2/2011 1:38 AM, kate.alh...@nokia.com wrote: You will have Qt/QML in MeeGo 1.2 but as far as I know, Qt Quick Components did not make et time there. Qt Quick components is UI elements as windows, buttons, dialogs etc made with Qml. that's not correct; look at the meego UX ;)

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MSSF manifests in RPM

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/2/2011 5:39 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: Hi all, what is the current state of MSSF manifest files in MeeGo? the current state is that MSSF is not part of, or integrated into, MeeGo... and won't be. ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt/QML or Meego Touch Framework?

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/2/2011 1:20 AM, john pratss wrote: Hi, I am developing an application based on Meego-touch-framework. But before starting that I wanted to clarify one thing; whether Meego-1.2 has support for both Qt/QML and MTF based apps or not? In Meego-1.2, what is the approach for developing

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance and Qt Commercial license

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/2/2011 9:56 AM, Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 02 May 2011 16:50:32 you wrote: the tools are there to help you make sure your bugfixes didn't accidentally break things. They're not there to be watertight against breaking the compliance rules by someone who wants to cheat the rules. One

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Qt 4.8 and QtQuick 1.1

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/2/2011 12:59 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Thiago Marcos P. Santos thiago.san...@intel.com wrote: Latest preview image of MeeGo Tablet relies on Qt 4.7.2. Is there any plans on the roadmap to push Qt 4.8 with QtQuick 1.1 (which might be specially interesting

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance and Qt Commercial license

2011-05-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/1/2011 2:11 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy wrote: Hi folks, My apologies if this has been discussed in the past already but I’m struggling to get a definite answer to this question: - Can someone switch to the Qt Commercial license [1],[2] and yet pass the MeeGo compliance test? you're

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo compliance and Qt Commercial license

2011-05-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/1/2011 8:58 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Sunday, 1 de May de 2011 08:39:02 Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 5/1/2011 2:11 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy wrote: Hi folks, My apologies if this has been discussed in the past already but I’m struggling to get a definite answer to this question: - Can

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: [MeeGo-ivi] Kernel for 1.2

2011-04-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/27/2011 2:34 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 4/26/2011 5:54 PM, Nasa wrote: [...] there isn't really *the* ivi kernel. Each platform (as per TSG decision) has the freedom to pick its own kernel version, as long

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: [MeeGo-ivi] Kernel for 1.2

2011-04-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/27/2011 9:47 AM, Niels Mayer wrote: I've noticed that there is no matching kernel-headers for any of the kernels being used: that's fine. the kernel ABI to glibc does not change, and the kernel-headers should really describe the reference ABI there... what makes you think this is a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: [MeeGo-ivi] Kernel for 1.2

2011-04-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/27/2011 10:07 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 4/27/2011 9:47 AM, Niels Mayer wrote: I've noticed that there is no matching kernel-headers for any of the kernels being used: that's fine. the kernel ABI to glibc does not change

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: [MeeGo-ivi] Kernel for 1.2

2011-04-26 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/26/2011 5:54 PM, Nasa wrote: Hi, Following Kev suggestion... there isn't really *the* ivi kernel. Each platform (as per TSG decision) has the freedom to pick its own kernel version, as long as it is compatible with the reference kernel and as long as security maintenance etc is done on

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Will clutter, mutter be configured to use gles in OBS?

2011-04-25 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/25/2011 1:24 AM, Zhao, Juan J wrote: Hi there, Is there any plane for clutter or mutter to be configured to use gles here? Would anybody share the experience about this? why would there be a plan for this ??? ___

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Will clutter, mutter be configured to use gles in OBS?

2011-04-25 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/25/2011 7:28 PM, Zhao, Juan J wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 06:35 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 4/25/2011 1:24 AM, Zhao, Juan J wrote: Hi there, Is there any plane for clutter or mutter to be configured to use gles here? Would anybody share the experience about

Re: [MeeGo-dev] X11 between Meego 1.1 and Meego 1.2

2011-04-12 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/12/2011 11:34 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Mark S. Townsley wrote: I have an application that ran fine under Meego 1.1 using a netbook. When I switch it over to Meego 1.2, it seg fault. There are some OpenGL code inside my app. For 1.2 MeeGo has switched

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ANNOUNCE: [ABI break] MeeGo 1.2 ARM architecture will only support hardfp ABI

2011-04-11 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/11/2011 5:28 AM, Juha Kallioinen wrote: Hello, the hardfp floating point ABI for ARM will be made default and mandatory for MeeGo 1.2 and later. This decision was made and approved back in December 2010 in the MeeGo TSG and the impact has been described in MeeGo wiki [1]. The hardfp

Re: [MeeGo-dev] meego tablet on viewpad 10

2011-04-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/6/2011 9:35 AM, Chen Baozi wrote: I got the latest kernel from git and built it locally on the tablet. Luckily, it works. I used to try to adapt Gabriel's patches by rebuilding the srpm. But it seems to be incompatible to build with the srpm offered along with 1.2 version. So I turned

Re: [MeeGo-dev] meego tablet on viewpad 10

2011-04-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/6/2011 9:53 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 4/6/2011 9:35 AM, Chen Baozi wrote: I got the latest kernel from git and built it locally on the tablet. Luckily, it works. I used to try to adapt Gabriel's patches by rebuilding the srpm

Re: [MeeGo-dev] how to run meego-ux's meego-app-camera on MeeGo 1.2 Netbook?

2011-04-03 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/3/2011 4:27 PM, Niels Mayer wrote: h wonder why you don't run the tablet/etc UX entirely ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines

[MeeGo-dev] Another architecture direction mail

2011-04-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Late last year, in the Architecture meeting, we had agreed to include timed, MCE, Sharing Framework, Non-Graphics-Feedback (NGF), Profiles, and Qt style APIs (QmSystem) identified on the http://wiki.meego.com/Architecture as new technologies into MeeGo. We had hoped that all the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] file system partitioning meego 1.2

2011-03-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/31/2011 5:04 AM, sam sam wrote: Hi, I would like to know how the file system will be partitioned in MeeGo 1.2 tablet. I beleive file system will be written into both NAND and eMMC unlike MeeGo 1.1 ? it's up to the person doing the preload image how things get partitioned, but I

Re: [MeeGo-dev] usbmoded?

2011-03-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/31/2011 8:06 AM, Philippe De Swert wrote: HAL can be used too, but that bit is not really nicest and the most flexible code. To be honest it is more a quick hack to get started. (I have re-added support to build with it) And as we all know HAL has been as good as dead since end of 2009...

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-packaging] [meego-commits] 15232 accepted: Trunk:Testing/qmf

2011-03-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/27/2011 1:59 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: The biggest problem I can see with these Nokia-maintained packages (MeeGo QMF, AccountsSSO and probably others) is that their development teams are mainly active on the Nokia product-driven developments, and very little time is allocated for the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-packaging] [meego-commits] 15232 accepted: Trunk:Testing/qmf

2011-03-27 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/27/2011 9:27 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: Luckily, at least for AccountsSSO, this is going to change starting from tomorrow. :-) tomorrow might be too late for several of these however. I just hope that architectural decisions are being taken according to the current state of a project

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-packaging] [meego-commits] 15232 accepted: Trunk:Testing/qmf

2011-03-26 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/25/2011 2:28 PM, fathi.bou...@nokia.com wrote: Moving the thread to meego-dev. I looked deeper into this QMF promotion. Until now,we (MeeGo) used a modified version that includes libaccount/libsignon integration. this was done properly as the upstream tarbal + patch, right? (if not,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Architecture decisions (was Re: migration (back) to EDS)

2011-03-25 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/25/2011 8:24 AM, Richard Dale wrote: On Friday, March 25, 2011 03:01:43 PM Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Richard Dale richard.d...@telefonica.net wrote: On Monday, March 07, 2011 10:06:08 PM Arjan van de Ven wrote: Are you planning to support or implement

Re: [MeeGo-dev] migration (back) to EDS

2011-03-22 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/2 Those who need it are messaging-ui, call-history, commhistory-daemon (handling the storage), qt-mobility, qt webruntime, at-phonebook, msgsync. I assumed the dependencies have been checked before announcing the change. Where is this task open and to whom? Is there a bug? What are the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] how to control backligh on handset device

2011-03-17 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/17/2011 8:24 PM, JK wrote: Hi, I want to add adjust back-light control application on handset device. there is a very nice XBacklight extension. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xbacklight/ is an example app of on how to use it...

[MeeGo-dev] Some architecture changes (MSSF / Buteo / PIM storage)

2011-03-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Hi, given the events of the last few weeks, the MeeGo architects have, and still are, revisiting various parts of the MeeGo architecture. While I'd love to say that we have the whole situation clear, the reality is that there still is a very complex situation. In part because just not

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-architecture] Some architecture changes (MSSF / Buteo / PIM storage)

2011-03-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/7/2011 8:51 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:In the long-term, we will re-evaluate the direction we are taking with MeeGo security with a new focus on *End-User Privacy*. While we do not intend to immediately remove the security enabling technologies we have been including in MeeGo, all security

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Some architecture changes (MSSF / Buteo / PIM storage)

2011-03-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/7/2011 1:40 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote: Because of all these items and the available expertise, we have decided to start replacing PIM storage with the Evolution Data Server. Ah, I see. good This change will land together with the SyncEvolution change (due to the intimate relationship

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Some architecture changes (MSSF / Buteo / PIM storage)

2011-03-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/7/2011 2:31 PM, Adrien Bustany wrote: Synchronization is a solved problem, mind you, our mail for exchange plugin does a pretty good job at saving contacts in a slow way. Using APIs the right way, it could sync 500 contacts in 80 seconds, as mentioned above. can you point at the source

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Some architecture changes (MSSF / Buteo / PIM storage)

2011-03-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/7/2011 3:33 PM, zoltan@nokia.com wrote: Let's define what we want, create a Meego-standardized test bench, make we can do many things that delay MeeGo moving forward. We're not going to do that. Time has come and gone for this to be a discussion; this is a decision.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Announcing MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900

2011-03-03 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/3/2011 8:15 AM, jukka.ekl...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, does this include Nokia open sourcing the pieces they previously committed to open source (including policy etc) and the pieces that are essential for running the N900 ? I'm going to let our architecture fellows to comment on that one

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Should I use MeeGo Touch Framework or Qt Framework for MeeGo tablets

2011-03-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 3/2/2011 4:52 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 01:51:51 am Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Victor Vu wrote: Is MeeGo Touch Framework here to stay? Yes. Is this

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Are there applications in meego netbook use tracker as metadata backend?

2011-02-28 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/27/2011 11:37 PM, Zhou, Ting Z wrote: Hello: Are there applications in meego netbook use tracker as metadata backend? As I know, in meego netbook, the music and video player banshee doesn't need tracker, the image viewer - eye of gnome also has no dependency on tracker. Tracker daemons

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego co-exist with Windows

2011-02-24 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/24/2011 5:16 PM, Praveen Gupta wrote: Hi, Can Meego co-exist with Windows on hard-disk during installation? I installed Meego on a netbook which has windows installed… After installation, Meego boots automatically even though I assigned windows as default boot option. How do I resolve

Re: [MeeGo-dev] kernel_panic on on mrst-mtf image

2011-02-21 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/21/2011 5:05 AM, praveen pandey wrote: Hi, I am using http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.2.20110208.4/handset/images/meego-handset-ia32-mrst-mtf/ image on moorsetown Hardware but I am not able to boot. I have attached the logs here. somewhere in the call trace it

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fail to run the Phoronix qgears2 test suit for 3D benchmark.

2011-02-21 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/21/2011 6:05 PM, jms yang wrote: hi There Just verified that the Phoronix test suit qgears with OpenGL rendering is capable to test on Acer AspireOne with pinetrail image(e.g. MeeGo release 1.1.90 (MeeGo) BUILD: meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.1.90.2.20110207.22) smoothly. Is there any

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Upstart in MeeGo 1.2

2011-02-17 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/17/2011 1:08 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: 2011/2/17 Tapio Rantalaext-tapio.rant...@nokia.com: pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti: Hi all! We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and therefore replace sysvinit as init provider. Hi Due

Re: [MeeGo-dev] glibc vs. eglibc

2011-02-15 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/15/2011 8:57 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: None of the replies answers the question, which I'll repeat; is there a reason why MeeGo uses one and not the other? yes. we use the real glibc that most folks are using the eglibc team is relative new with little track record (this is nothing

Re: [MeeGo-dev] glibc vs. eglibc

2011-02-15 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/15/2011 10:11 AM, Syed Faisal Akber wrote: Jeremiah, There are a number of libc alternatives out there for embedded systems. They include: uC-libc - http://www.uClinux.org/ uClibc - http://www.uclibc.org/ newlib - http://www.sourceware.org/newlib/ There are more that I'm not including

[MeeGo-dev] Evicting someone from the meego mailing lists (was Re: Buyout of Nokia)

2011-02-13 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/13/2011 1:12 PM, Randolph Dohm didn't we warn you several times before that what you are doing is offtopic and rude for meego-dev ? Your post, again and as usual, has nothing to do with anything technical or development related. Administrators, please consider banning this Randolph Dohm

Re: [MeeGo-dev] BME (Battery Management Entity) on MeeGo

2011-02-09 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/9/2011 3:30 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2011 10:42:28 ext Carsten Munk, you wrote: 2011/1/29 Lego Minglegom...@gmail.com: Hi all, We want to study the Battery Management Mechanism on MeeGo Handset. The battery management mechanism on MeeGo handset is up to the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] updated MeeGo compliance spec available for review

2011-02-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/7/2011 4:41 AM, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 08:43 -0700, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: Hoping some of you have time to take a look and supply comments... http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance, as usual. current version is the .7 revision. Section 3: Application

Re: [MeeGo-dev] updated MeeGo compliance spec available for review

2011-02-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/7/2011 9:03 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Sergio Schvezov wrote: Suppose that your app needs 3rd party libs and you install them in the folder /opt/foo/lib. Before you start your app, you can manipulate the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to pull in your lib folder. [snip]

Re: [MeeGo-dev] updated MeeGo compliance spec available for review

2011-02-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/7/2011 10:0st core') If you compile your app against libssl in Meego 1.1 it will link against libssl.so.8, when you go to Meego 1.1.90-1.2 your app won't load as libssl.so.10 is there. If you symlink it may work, but you can never know as that's why the version changed in the first

Re: [MeeGo-dev] updated MeeGo compliance spec available for review

2011-02-04 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/4/2011 12:10 PM, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 14:32 -0500, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:21:04 +0200 Kernels have supported IPv6 for years, unless they are specifically configured not to. Yes, but sadly there are products where kernels are specifically

Re: [MeeGo-dev] gstreamer vaapi support on meego

2011-02-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/2/2011 4:07 AM, navin karnam wrote: Hi All, Whether Meego 1.1 official release supports video playback using the vaapi elements of the gstreamer (vaapidecode or vaapisink) on Intel moorestown platform? Do we need to upgrade the libva or patch graphics drivers to get for the vaapi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Broadcom WL on MeeGo Netbook 1.1.90.0.20110125

2011-02-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/2/2011 6:43 AM, Glen Gray wrote: or we all spend time making the opensource BCM driver work on 2.6.37 this sounds like a really good idea regardless of anything else. ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Libva support on meego 1.1

2011-02-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 2/1/2011 6:03 AM, john pratss wrote: Hi, I have tried a gstreamer pipeline to play a video, pipeline freezes while libva is trying to open the pvr graphics driver, so could not able play the video. The pipeline is run on the mego 1.1 official release on a Intel moorestown platform.

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