[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo OBS shutdown - huge thanks and moving on

2013-05-24 Thread David Greaves
Hi everyone As we knew the MeeGo infrastructure is closing down. The MeeGo OBS is scheduled for shutdown at the end of next week ~ 29 May. I should have announced this earlier but I've been busy; sorry. Please ensure you've taken backups of anything you need - once it's gone it really will be

[MeeGo-dev] [Meego-SDK]https relevant

2013-03-26 Thread 温腊
HI:     I am a student of Software Institute of Chinese Academy. Now I program in MeeGo System. I have some questions: The same Code when running in (1)device: QWebView can not load https page but the browser contained in MeeGo System can load https pages. (2)QtCreator-Simulator: QWebView can

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Gitorious Service after March 21, 2013 and git.meego.com setup

2013-03-18 Thread adam.gretzin...@linux.intel.com
Hi folks: The contract the MeeGo project has with Gitorious ends on March 21, 2013. Gitorious provided source coding hosting services for MeeGo. While its not expected that they will remove existing git repos it is expected there will be changes in the meego.gitorious.org website which may make

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo mailing list shutdown

2013-01-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
Dear participants As part of the MeeGo infrastructure ramp down, we will begin to shut down most mailing lists. In the coming days, all mailing lists at lists.meego.com will be shut down, except for the following: NameReason meego-dev general

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-announce] MeeGo mailing list shutdown

2013-01-25 Thread George Ingram
Thanks for all your work, Best George George Ingram http://www.georgeingram.com/ 815 1st Avenue, Ste 156 Seattle, Washington 98104 Direct Line 804-464-7267 Fax Line 804-414-7746 -Original Message- From: meego-announce-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-announce-boun...@meego.com] On

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego-tv-irinterface

2012-09-21 Thread Brendan Le Foll
On 19 September 2012 09:52, MacBook Pro valentin.cu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I work on Cocom Tatcher 4200 and the board can't recognize the Ir-receiver i launch the command ir-interface /usr/share/ir_interface/cocom_nec.map Got the SoC information Waiting for the PIC events… when i list

[MeeGo-dev] Meego-tv-irinterface

2012-09-19 Thread MacBook Pro
Hello I work on Cocom Tatcher 4200 and the board can't recognize the Ir-receiver i launch the command ir-interface /usr/share/ir_interface/cocom_nec.map Got the SoC information Waiting for the PIC events… when i list the input device at /proc/bus/input/devices i have the receiver but no

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Outages for Patching 10/29/2011, 10/30/2011

2011-10-27 Thread adam.gretzin...@linux.intel.com
The MeeGo IT team has a number of items to take care of as part of regular maintenance, we'll be having 3 separate change windows this coming weekend as listed below. 1) October 29, 2011 03:00 GMT - 05:00 GMT Outage Reason: OS Patching, Firmware Upgrades Impacted: Core OBS, download and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-11 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, On 10/04/2011 03:08 PM, ext Tom Swindell wrote: OBS is built with packaging in mind, so it builds packages locally and on servers in a sanitized environment. Scratchbox may be polluted by whatever packages a developer has installed and makes dependency tracking a bit harder IMO. OBS and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-11 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, On 10/04/2011 12:06 PM, ext Jon Nordby wrote: Yes, one would want Scratchbox or similar in addition to what OBS provides. However, there is nothing that prevents Scratchbox from being used together with RPM and an RPM based distro is there? You need some support for RPM tools in SB and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-06 Thread d4lamar
Hi to all, I'm only a lurker of Meego mailing lists and I have never contributed to the project, but this time I would like to write some words about. * That primary customers of the platform are device vendors - not end-users. I think that this point in Mer Project or in any other branch/fork

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-06 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/10/6 d4lamar d4la...@gmail.com: * That primary customers of the platform are device vendors - not end-users. I think that this point in Mer Project or in any other branch/fork of Meego is to be corrected. Vendors come and vendors go, they don't care about Community as long as they can

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-06 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 06 October 2011 07:33:24 Carsten Munk wrote: We have chosen to move out the hardware adaptations and UX'es out of the core, into the community surrounding it, to get rid of a lot of politics - to concentrate on what's technically good and benefits us all - not having to maintain

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-06 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Graham Cobb g+me...@cobb.uk.net wrote: My personal view (which is partly based on my marketing job) is that you have to start off focused on a very visible end user experience in order to get the project the necessary publicity.  For your own governance reasons

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Samuel Stirtzel
Hi, sorry for re-sending this Jeremiah, but I've missed that this mail was not sent to the list, my bad. 2011/10/4 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com: ... Can a mobile segment distro like MeeGo be really compared with a desktop segment distro like e.g. embedded Ubuntu? (This is

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Stefan Werden stefan.wer...@open-slx.dewrote: Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com hat am 4. Oktober 2011 um 20:42 geschrieben: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Stefan Werden stefan.wer...@open-slx.dewrote: Hi, switching to debian would

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Samuel Stirtzel s.stirt...@googlemail.com wrote: 2011/10/4 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com: Can a mobile segment distro like MeeGo be really compared with a desktop segment distro like e.g. embedded Ubuntu? (This is not relative to your

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Si Howard
Again, I agree with the project, if Mer can resurrect Maemo/MeeGo then I am all for it! On 04/10/2011 08:57, Timo Jyrinki wrote: ma, 2011-10-03 kello 19:09 +0100, Si Howard kirjoitti: I'm for that! Wasn't the Mer project part of the Maemo 5.0 porting to the Nokia N8X0 platform? That's one

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/10/5 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com: Distrowatch are server and dektop disties. The special thing in MeeGo was that the focus was on emerging devices. And how exactly did it do that? By using Connman? By using an embedded Linux kernel? Btrfs? By being small? What exactly

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread harri.hakulinen
Of ext Carsten Munk Sent: 3. lokakuuta 2011 9:01 To: meego-dev; meego-comm...@meego.com Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen !! - Haven't we heard that before? - Maemo, Moblin? We need a community

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
ma, 2011-10-03 kello 19:09 +0100, Si Howard kirjoitti: I'm for that! Wasn't the Mer project part of the Maemo 5.0 porting to the Nokia N8X0 platform? That's one way of putting it, but it was indeed about reconstructing Maemo so that it worked as a whole distribution. That then made possible to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com
Hello, I think one of the things with the MeeGo was that it was a downgrade in development environment, CI systems and everything from our Maemo. All that has been made for debian based distro and the change to the rpm does not make slightest sense. The debian based distro and everything that

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Sivan Greenberg
I just think it would have been better if we (The Nokia linux organization and the fans) did not have to go through the MeeGo hurdle, and as you say in detail, look at harmattan and how slick and beautiful is as a product. (I use it in N950 as my everyday phone and no *other* OS/ device even comes

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi Karoliina, On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com wrote: Killing scratchbox without a replacement (OBS is not a replacement!) is not very good choice. MeeGo was theoretically usable in qemu, unfortunately, I don't think a lot of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jon Nordby
On 10/04/11 11:07, Sivan Greenberg wrote: I just think it would have been better if we (The Nokia linux organization and the fans) did not have to go through the MeeGo hurdle, and as you say in detail, look at harmattan and how slick and beautiful is as a product. (I use it in N950 as my

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi Sivan ( others), On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: Again, why don't we forget reinventing the infrastructure in the price of using debs (which is a known a loved format for embedded computing everywhere, and since RPM and DEBs are just a way of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: OBS is a very useful tool, just not for the purposes you were apparently forced to use it for. I've used it for the commit, push package, wait for build failure type development cycle as well, and I agree, it's

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/10/4 Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: OBS is a very useful tool, just not for the purposes you were apparently forced to use it for. I've used it for the commit, push package, wait for build failure type

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: it can be looked at. We've chosen the approach of minimal change because it means we have a working system with less effort. I realize this, does this mean that once we find someone to sponsor the servers we just

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Tuomas Kulve
On 10/04/2011 12:06 PM, Jon Nordby wrote: Don't go around trying to changing everything if what you're missing is just Scratchbox. I also liked the Scratchbox, despite the problems. For MeeGo stuff I use this (ARM chroot created from the osc local build):

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote: Long story short: buildd and launchpad is very useful but only when you're doing Debian and Debian only. OBS is different in many different ways and allows a proper productization environment as well as growing an

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote: Long story short: buildd and launchpad is very useful but only when you're doing Debian and Debian only. Except it was built by Canonical for

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This is just my 0.02 cents. I would think it should be done like this: - Take the debian based distro and development environment (that works) as a basis. It works. Look at

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote: Long story short: buildd and launchpad is very useful but

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Tom Swindell
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:58 +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote: Long story short: buildd and launchpad is very useful but

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Tom Swindell t.swind...@rubyx.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:58 +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/10/4 karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com: Hello, I think one of the things with the MeeGo was that it was a downgrade in development environment, CI systems and everything from our Maemo. So, for good measure - those CI systems were never open source or published

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Tom Swindell
Other reasons for keeping OBS include trying to change as little as possible from what MeeGo has done. So those vendors that are possibly already accustomed and are currently using MeeGo facilities, like OBS. Can easily migrate to Mer. There really isn't much point in debating this, Carsten has

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Mika Laitio
OBS is a very useful tool, just not for the purposes you were apparently forced to use it for. I've used it for the commit, push package, wait for build failure type development cycle as well, and I agree, it's far from optimal - but for easily making heavily There are couple of ways to speed

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com wrote: I think what Carsten means by growing an organisation organically is that OBS allows multiple users to create their own repositories, it allows us to separate different projects into different repositories

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Samuel Stirtzel
Hi, maybe I'm wrong but the Scratchbox mailing lists looks pretty dead right now (see [1]). Is there any community alive behind it, or should the new MeeGo project reanimate Scratchbox if it would be used? 2011/10/4 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com: OBS is built with packaging in

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Arnaud Delcasse
2011/10/4 Samuel Stirtzel s.stirt...@googlemail.com: Before it was just big companies that could create their own Linux distros (before that everyone had their bespoke UNIX distro) nowadays fragmentation is brought to you by every Tom, Dick and Harry with an OBS login. I've been down the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Samuel Stirtzel s.stirt...@googlemail.comwrote: [snip] 2011/10/4 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com: OBS is built with packaging in mind, so it builds packages locally and on servers in a sanitized environment. Scratchbox may be polluted by

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Stefan Werden stefan.wer...@open-slx.dewrote: Hi, switching to debian would mean making a complete new projekt. Nope, it would merely mean adding software to the Debian project, it wouldn't require a new project at all. Debian would host the infrastructure (it

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Carsten Munk
Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen !! - Haven't we heard that before? - Maemo, Moblin? We need a community that transcends the mere branding of MeeGo, Maemo, Moblin - and now Tizen. A lot of proposals have been put forward: * Move to Tizen and trust that They'll get it right this time *

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Timo Härkönen
2011/10/3 Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org Hi all, Our solution is the Mer Project: Excellent! count me in. A few questions about the project's communication channels? Do we use these MeeGo mailing list, the meego-* IRC channels or are we moving somewhere? (IMO moving to mer-specific channels

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/10/3 Timo Härkönen timop.harko...@gmail.com: 2011/10/3 Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org Hi all, Our solution is the Mer Project: Excellent! count me in. A few questions about the project's communication channels? Do we use these MeeGo mailing list, the meego-* IRC channels or are

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread martin brook
Carsten Hi, Your aims are why I was draw to MeeGo in the first place and its good to see you aiming even higher. 'We will continue to welcome contribution and participation from the hacker community - in fact we aim to make it so easy to port to a new vendor device that a single hacker could do

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Randall Arnold
From: Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org To: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com; meego-comm...@meego.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Thomas.Rucker
Hi, -Original Message- From: Randall Arnold From: Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org To: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com; meego-comm...@meego.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread ext-iekku.pylkka
Hi, Sounds great! Count me in. -- Iekku -Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev- boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Carsten Munk Sent: 03 October, 2011 09:01 To: meego-dev; meego-comm...@meego.com Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Il 10/03/2011 09:01 AM, Carsten Munk ha scritto: The goal is to find a truly sustainable way for MeeGo and other interested communities to work with Tizen. Our solution is the Mer Project: [...] That's fantastic! I can't make any promises, as free time is an obsolete concept for me, but I'll

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread nic...@nicoladefilippo.it
Hi, +1 Nicola Da: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com A: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com, meego-comm...@meego.com Cc: Data: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:01:17 +0200 Oggetto: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] invitation... and a second one

2011-10-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
(cc:ing to meego-dev as well since Jos originally wanted to post there, too) to, 2011-09-29 kello 21:40 +0200, Jos Poortvliet kirjoitti: Dear MeeGo friends! Many people in your community wonder where to go since the Tizen announcement. At a MeeGo meet in Tampere, many expressed concerns:

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-03 Thread Foster, Dawn M
On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: Snip I've been asking the same questions as everyone else. If I get answers back that I can share, I most certainly will. For now, I'd like to ask everyone to submit questions to Dawn Foster, and keep asking. Answers will come - be

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-03 Thread Si Howard
I'm for that! Wasn't the Mer project part of the Maemo 5.0 porting to the Nokia N8X0 platform? On 03/10/2011 07:01, Carsten Munk wrote: Hi all, MeeGo is dead ... long live Tizen !! - Haven't we heard that before? - Maemo, Moblin? We need a community that transcends the mere branding of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:29 +, Jarmo Kuronen wrote: I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for MeeGo. Lets be realistic, what there is left, really, after N+I has left the building? Freedom. ___ MeeGo-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Gabriel Beddingfield
On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. Do one thing and do it best (tm). Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? Handsets weren't even the largest part of the project... Fine... pick IVI. Pick

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Luis Araujo
On 10/01/2011 06:58 AM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. Do one thing and do it best (tm). Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? Handsets weren't even the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Gabriel Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. Do one thing and do it best (tm). Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project?

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread kate.alhola
On Oct 1, 2011, at 2:28 PM, ext Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. Do one thing and do it best (tm). Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? Handsets weren't

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-10-01 Thread Angel Perles
El 29/09/11 02:39, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata escribió: Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development. +one with the same

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Gabriel Beddingfield
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Dayo roneywo...@googlemail.com wrote: Fine... pick IVI.  Pick *something*. MeeGo's complexity ({Netbook,Handset,IVI,Tablet} x {i586,armv7} x {MeeGoCompliance,PlatformCompliance,DeviceCompliance}) was apparently too much to bear even with corporate sponsorship.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... it would be foolish to continue that failed approach. It sets everyone up for failure. I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Dayo
On 10/01/2011 04:13 PM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Dayoroneywo...@googlemail.com wrote: Fine... pick IVI. Pick *something*. MeeGo's complexity ({Netbook,Handset,IVI,Tablet} x {i586,armv7} x {MeeGoCompliance,PlatformCompliance,DeviceCompliance}) was apparently

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Gabriel Beddingfield
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Michael Hasselmann micha...@openismus.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... it would be foolish to continue that failed approach.  It sets everyone up for

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread George Ingram
Suite 167 Columbia Missouri 65201-3792 Voice 804-464-7257 -Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Angel Perles Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:15 AM To: meego-dev@meego.com Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread George Ingram
Columbia Missouri 65201-3792 Voice 804-464-7257 -Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Beddingfield Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:13 AM To: Dayo Cc: meego-dev@meego.com Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Luis Araujo
On 10/01/2011 11:19 AM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Michael Hasselmann micha...@openismus.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... it would be foolish to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Jarmo Kuronen
I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for MeeGo. Lets be realistic, what there is left, really, after N+I has left the building? - Jarmo ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Dayo
On 10/01/2011 10:29 PM, Jarmo Kuronen wrote: I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for MeeGo. Lets be realistic, what there is left, really, after N+I has left the building? - Jarmo ___ How about the MeeGo community?

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-30 Thread Luis Araujo
On 09/29/2011 09:33 AM, Robin Burchell wrote: So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to actually spell the end of MeeGo? Definitely not. MeeGo has been intended as an open source project since the very beginning, and that means: let's keep the ball rolling. In

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Peter Jespersen flywh...@illogical.dkwrote: Den 29-09-2011 00:46, Clint Christopher Cañada skrev: It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening. Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Robin Burchell
So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to actually spell the end of MeeGo? In the past few days, we have seen that there is definitely a community of individuals wanting to continue building products using Qt (or simply writing apps using Qt on mobile), and MeeGo Core

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 15:03, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to actually spell the end of MeeGo? No, but as you address - infrastructure is one of the biggest things. How long until LF/Intel turn off

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: Obviously, we'd probably need to rethink some things like project governance, infrastructure, etc - but provided these can be solved, what do you all think? Can it be business as usual? I believe so. In fact I

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Nasa
- Original Message - On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: Obviously, we'd probably need to rethink some things like project governance, infrastructure, etc - but provided these can be solved, what do you all think? Can it be business as

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Nasa nas...@comcast.net wrote: So I'll shed some light on how I see this and how we should proceed: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. Do one thing and do it best (tm). Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 16:37, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: Personal area of interest, perhaps. Anyway, we don't need to exclude anyone here - anyone can come and play ball. In my view of the ideal MeeGo universe, UX is entirely seperate projects from MeeGo itself - MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Robin Burchell robin+me...@viroteck.net wrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Nasa nas...@comcast.net wrote: So I'll shed some light on how I see this and how we should proceed: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. Do one

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Sousou, Imad
By now, you may have read that The Linux Foundation, with the support of several other companies, announced a new project, Tizenhttps://tizen.org/, to build a new operating system for devices. This new project is first and foremost open source, and based on Linux. So it begs the question: why

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 07:30, Sousou, Imad imad.sou...@intel.com wrote: Granted, this is a judgment on our part on which reasonable people could disagree, but that's the conclusion I came to. I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Ross

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:03, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Ross Let's re-do everything Java ME has done, with ugly interpreted Javascript... Yay... FC

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Ian Lawrence
Hi, I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance. This can also be done using something like PhoneGap (http://docs.phonegap.com/) which exposes native mobile device apis and data to JavaScript. It builds

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jonathan Casagrande
I'm very sad about Meego, when I start to read I thought that Meego will be a different distribution, different of default(Android, iOs, or WP7), but let's see this Tizen, I hope that Tizen be better and more comercial than Meego 2011/9/28 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com On

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 15:31, Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread S. Howard
The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. On 28/09/2011 13:31, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howard howa...@gmx.co.uk wrote: The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted. Regards,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Si Howard
My bad, I meant C/C++. Cheers, Si. On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howardhowa...@gmx.co.uk wrote: The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Clint Christopher Cañada
I do agree with the sentiment though. I've personally done some programming apps in android using an open framework that uses html and javascript but, although it does provide access to hardware, like gps, the camera and media, for more advanced functionality, you'd have to go back to adding

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development. +one with the same feeling. 2011/9/28 Clint Christopher Cañada clint...@ostalks.com: I

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Steven
On 09/28/2011 08:14 PM, Ian Lawrence wrote: Hi, I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance. This can also be done using something like PhoneGap (http://docs.phonegap.com/) which exposes native

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Jespersen
Den 29-09-2011 00:46, Clint Christopher Cañada skrev: It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening. Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Website Maintenance on Sept. 10th, 2011

2011-09-09 Thread Shaver, Michael R
There will be a brief period of inactivity on the meego.com site on Saturday Sept. 10th between 10:00AM PST and 12:00PM PST. You may not be able to access the site during this time as we upgrade to using the Bakery single sign-on module for our sites. It's likely you'll also need to re-login to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-qa] MeeGo Distribution Packages - product in the Bugzilla

2011-09-04 Thread ext-iekku.pylkka
Hi, Thanks Luis for your activity. You have been marked as a default assignee for the components you listed below. Br, Iekku From: ext Luis Araujo [mailto:luis.ara...@collabora.co.uk] Sent: 01 September, 2011 21:08 To: Pylkka Iekku (EXT-Ixonos/Tampere) Cc: meego-hand...@lists.meego.com;

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-qa] MeeGo Distribution Packages - product in the Bugzilla

2011-09-01 Thread Luis Araujo
On 09/01/2011 01:14 AM, ext-iekku.pyl...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, Here's quote from the mail about the changes in the Bugzilla's Hanset UX. On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:06 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: I'm ignoring meego bugzilla as useless unless it has a 1:1 mapping between packages and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience

2011-08-31 Thread ext-iekku.pylkka
Hi all, Want to remind about the changes. I haven't received any comments about the adding other UX stuff to Handset UX. See all the conversation from: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-July/thread.html Shane Bryan replied for the original proposal and libseaside is staying as

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience

2011-08-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 8/31/2011 12:16 AM, ext-iekku.pyl...@nokia.com wrote: Hi all, Want to remind about the changes. I haven’t received any comments about the adding other UX stuff to Handset UX. See all the conversation from: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-July/thread.html Shane Bryan

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