[MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Here's a basic question I need answered: Warning - this post may contain offensive material such as the o word. I am about to change the oil in the 190D. The engine has not been started for several days. In terms of getting the maximum oil drained, am I better off starting the engine and letting

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Oh, and no - I am not prepared to suck the oil out - thanks. Brian On 11/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a basic question I need answered: Warning - this post may contain offensive material such as the o word. I am about to change the oil in the 190D. The engine has not

Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?

2007-11-25 Thread Dave H...
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Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Peter T . Arnold
For about 40 years now I've been draining my oil cold, after car sits overnight.. My theory is that all of the oil went to the pan after last hot shut-down. I pull the plug, go in the house and demand breakfast from my Kitchen Wench. After 1 hour I go out, the dripping has stopped, I replace

Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?

2007-11-25 Thread archer
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Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?

2007-11-25 Thread Bill Ringgold
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Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?

2007-11-25 Thread Bill Ringgold
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Re: [MBZ] K'leb or Cathey

2007-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/484886143.html $200 for a stack of old cars! Would do it myself, but I like living in a warm house for the coming winter, and SWMBA would cast me out with the farm animals I think he meant $200 each. I also like being warm in the winter, and the R-value

Re: [MBZ] I am in the middle of nowhere

2007-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I had heard a rumor many years ago that the railroads leased space in their existing underground conduit when fiber optics first started making it big. Yes. That was Sprint. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals

2007-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to complete the job? They don't even list all the steps. They are intended for EXPERT mechanics. Nonetheless, the contain vital information. It's just that they have ONLY the vital information. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread John Robbins
Zoltan Finks wrote: I am about to change the oil in the 190D. The engine has not been started for several days. In terms of getting the maximum oil drained, am I better off starting the engine and letting it warm, (as conventional wisdom dictates), or am I better off just pulling the plug and

Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?

2007-11-25 Thread ernest breakfield
i've had very good luck with AVG over the years on several machines, as have several more computer-savvy computer support professionals i know,... i've had awful luck with what Norton (particularly Norton Internet Security) has done to a couple of machines in the family, and don't use it on

Re: [MBZ] Diesel BMW

2007-11-25 Thread ernest breakfield
they can be lots of fun, but are known to have head cracking issues. (the guy i know best who has one hasn't had any problems, and is also running it on a WVO conversion system,...) talked to the local dealer about them, and they don't have any problem with servicing them or getting parts

[MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
I was somewhere the other day when this Maxima passed me, it sure smelled like a diesel unless it was running really badly. Did they make any diesels for US? Or maybe Mexico? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
They put a diesel in their wee pickups and in the Maxima at some point in the mid '80s I believe, Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
You could also purchase a Dodge Diesel D-50 small truck in the early 80s. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/25/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
The theory behind the hot drain is that all the little particles of nastiness are suspended in the oil and most get flushed out, whereas the cold method has a drawback in which the particles settle on the bottom of the pan and in other places around the engine. I'll stick with the manufacturer

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Never saw a Manufacture's Recommendation on this. Can you quote source? Of course a dealer will change warm, he moves the cold car off the lot into his shop and drains it. Would you really pay a dealer to get the car hot at $75/hr.? I think not. Pete On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:04:42 +1030,

Re: [MBZ] Diesel BMW

2007-11-25 Thread LarryT
I dont think you;ll be too happy with the BMW resale vales either - they seem to drop pretty fast. Also, I never knew this until I test drove a used one - the early to mid 90s 7 series (comparable to an S class) were given new engines by the factory. Even some dealers are unaware of this but

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Rory
1st gen maxima's had the L28d. Inline 6, approx 120 hp. dodge and mitsu had a 2.5 turbo D in the d-50. On Nov 25, 2007 11:35 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was somewhere the other day when this Maxima passed me, it sure smelled like a diesel unless it was running really badly.

Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surpris

2007-11-25 Thread LarryT
I'm sure everyone is familiar with the DEA (?) agent giving a demonstration for a group of school children and just after saying I'm the only one in this room qualified to handle this gun. he promptly shot himself in the foot. He hesitated for a moment before contining his speech.

Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surpris

2007-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Not that I know of but if you email me the serial I'll run it by the old man. He's got all sorts of books that list that sort of stuff. -Curt Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:54:22 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surpris To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread LarryT
You asked:Can you quote source? From the MB WSM - it says: Suction engine oil via dipstick tube with engine at operating temperature. Sec 0101.05 - shown for my 91 300D 2.5T Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Last summer I passed a diesel DATSUN Sentra... I expect they imported at least a few. I've heard but never seen of diesel Camrys and Corollas around. I'd buy a diesel Escort or Tempo if I saw one just for the wierdness. IIRC the engines in those were made by Mazda so you'd assume a few diesel

[MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Luther
I'm almost too keyed up to get a nap before workWOW. Had a friend call me last night asking if I would join her for the Boston Pops this afternoon. I accepted in a heart beat, even knowing that I would get 4 hours or so of sleep for work tonight. It was worth it. They were joined by

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Foul, I stated that I pulled the plug. I know that M/B would rather that we suck it out. You can't do it that way very effectively in most other cars. BTW, I never had luck with a TopSider, I found it messy and counterproductive. YMMV and I'm happy for you. Pete On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:01:40

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread EDWARD DENNIS
Hi, I was taught to drain HOT for a real hot and lubricated engine will start and not get damaged. An engine will drain as it sits. Draining all in an overnight rest. Cold starts wear all engines because oil takes up to 4 minuets to get everywhere. Even 1960 taxi cabs ran engines 300k

Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surpris

2007-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: I'm sure everyone is familiar with the DEA (?) agent giving a demonstration for a group of school children and just after saying I'm the only one in this room qualified to handle this gun. he promptly shot himself in the foot. He hesitated for a moment before contining

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level. Bob R. Music/Arts'nuf said Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread tom savage
Curt Raymond wrote: Last summer I passed a diesel DATSUN Sentra... I expect they imported at least a few. I've heard but never seen of diesel Camrys and Corollas around. I'd buy a diesel Escort or Tempo if I saw one just for the wierdness. IIRC the engines in those were made by Mazda so

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
why yes, yes they did Rich Thomas wrote: I was somewhere the other day when this Maxima passed me, it sure smelled like a diesel unless it was running really badly. Did they make any diesels for US? Or maybe Mexico? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
End of the day people are entitled to change their oil any which way they see fit, no I don't own an official MB service manual and I don't particularly care what people do to their car. I was taught by qualified mechanics to change the oil warm and the reason given was that warm oil drains

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Peter Frederick
Volvo sold quite a few 740 and 760 turbo diesels, and a large number of NA 240 series diesels as well. 1982 or 83 to 86, when the sales tanked. Not bad cars (I've had one for 11 years), decent performance for a 2.4L engine and good milage (29 town, 31-32 on the highway, usually). More power

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
How is a topsider more messy than oil all over your hand as you pull the plug? Even when I let the plug fall in the pan I still get a dose of it. The worst mess from the topsider is when you pull the tube back out but remember on an MB you DON'T use the tube that goes all the way down, you just

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Nice theory but... How do you get MORE cold start wear just by putting in new oil? If you were going to have a cold start anyway it'd seem like it doesn't matter. Of course I do pre-fill the oil filter to help a little against startup wear. I also change hot but I do it because any gunk in the

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
tom savage wrote: There were so many now-forgotten diesels in the US in the early 80s, I'm trying to think of gas-only marques... Renault Winnebago LeSharo etc had a 4 cyl Renault diesel, but I don't remember any Renault diesel cars being imported. Toyota(?) I'm pretty sure I've seen a

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Wait, those are supposed to be diesel only? Maybe in this country but Saab and Renault have diesels all over Europe. Diesel Toyotas aren't unheard of, especially pickups. Honda has made a huge deal out of their new diesels, the ads are on YouTube featuring Garrison Keilor. Jag makes diesels,

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread Rory
I've seen a renault powered jeep cherokee turbo d On Nov 25, 2007 4:39 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait, those are supposed to be diesel only? Maybe in this country but Saab and Renault have diesels all over Europe. Diesel Toyotas aren't unheard of, especially pickups. Honda has

Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?

2007-11-25 Thread Glenn Brown
I insalled the free version of AVG this afternoon at the suggestion of numerous folks on the list, and two of the three things found and hi-lited in RED as being bad had the following message associated with them: Selected object is located inside archive and cannot be healed. If this means what

Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT: Gun surprise

2007-11-25 Thread archer
Thanks again, Curt. My BIL will be happy to hear this. Gerry - - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel bulletproofness OT:

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread EDWARD DENNIS
Hi, Change oil in shorter intervals and hot when the engine is lubricated and 1 less cold start. Don't worry about mixing good oil with new oil. No theories, 40+ years experience. Ed in Chicago 85 190d 95k; 82 300sd 121k; 90 suburban 6,2na 253k; 01 cherokee 95k; 90 f250 460 97k;

[MBZ] O.T.Christmas Lights

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Figured I was probably the only dude on out little list who was wearing shorts and flip-flops while putting up outdoor Christmas lights. After 25 years still seems wrong. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

[MBZ] new addition

2007-11-25 Thread Sunil Hari
1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with brown MB-Tex interior. Got it for $400 and immediately drove it 80 miles home without incident. Back in the club! -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] new addition (not)

2007-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
My wife, in what fit of idiocy I do not know, actually mailed me a link to a $1900 craigslist 300TD, 1979 vintage. I think it was a trap, I declined to pursue it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan?

2007-11-25 Thread archer
Daughter had a diesel Toyota Camry during the 1980s. The injector pump went bad at about 75K and she got rid of it. IIRC the diesel engine was made by Nissan. Gerry -- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could also purchase a Dodge Diesel D-50

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
The theory holds true if you drain the oil, change the filter, fill with new oil and start the motor. The theory is that the engine internals still have a coating on them to give some protection while the oil pump primes. Next time you change your oil see how long it takes for oil pressure to

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread archer
Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be interesting to have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the engine lasted longer than usual. Problem is, (in a 617.xxx anyway) the oil pump is in the pan

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
Don't know about that but I have read that turning over the engine until oil pressure rises is better, easy to do on an petrol motor but a bit more difficult on a Diesel. archer wrote: Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via auxiliary pumps before they start

[MBZ] What is the current thinking on internal engine cleaners?

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
I got an Izuzu with a lot of sludge build up in the motor. What is the best way to go? A bit of ATF 50k's before an oil change, seafoam or running a synthetic oil? Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] What is the current thinking on internal engine cleaners?

2007-11-25 Thread Peter Frederick
Synthetic, but you will have to change it more often than 7500 miles. Everybody is having trouble with sludge due to inadequate (in my opinion) crankcase ventilation. Dodge had real fits, so did Toyota. Change the oil filter at 1000 miles after you switch, it will be full of crud by then.

[MBZ] The truth about X-Ice

2007-11-25 Thread ned kleinhenz
I regret potentially starting a tire thread. But I need to hear some first hand experience with Michelin X-Ice. I need new winter tires for my 124 daily driver. I found some bald spots on my old Nokian NRW's after 5+ winters. Can't use them any more. Local tire dealers are reluctant to order

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread OK Don
Luther has a degree in music --- On Nov 25, 2007 5:29 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level. Bob R.

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread OK Don
OK Brian - slap your hand and wash your mouth out with soap for using tho word on the list!!! My recommendation depends on the temp where the car is - if it's below 50F, I'd warm it up a bit (unless it is Mobil 1) - note that that is an entirely arbitrary temp. On Nov 25, 2007 8:05 PM, Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
archer wrote: Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be interesting to have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the engine lasted longer than usual. Get a pressure accumulator, capacity of at

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:22:52 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther has a degree in music --- My word! And we didn't even hear of it at the IowaQ! How shallow our conversation must have been! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread OK Don
Good idea -- here are some samples. http://www.thinkauto.com/accumulators.htm http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?form_cat_id=102,675action=category Get a pressure accumulator, capacity of at least a pint, better yet a quart, and tee it into the oil pressure sensor fitting on the engine. Put a

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
Ask Luther what our B.A. degrees are in. :-) Don On 11/25/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level.

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:42:27 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: archer wrote: Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be interesting to have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the

Re: [MBZ] Oil draining

2007-11-25 Thread RELNGSON
I hate to be left out, so I drain my oil hot after a run, delayed only by the few minutes it takes to get out my Topsider and set it up. I have had no problems with using the thing in the seven years I've had it and the pickup tube has never melted despite all the old wives' tales to the

Re: [MBZ] new addition

2007-11-25 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Way to go Sunil. You were never out of the club, just hated to see you Benzless. All joking aside, the 240D-esp. the early ones w/o ACC w/ manual windows, etc are very solid cars-I have two of them right now. Keep us posted (so to speak.) Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K

Re: [MBZ] new addition (not)

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
I'm sure it was a test. Well done, Jim! Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition (not) My wife, in what fit of idiocy I do not

[MBZ] 240D

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
My trusty 240D has set idly since about March or so when I was planning to try again to get the blasted 81 only auto trans to shift right. I put the battery charger on for a while, turned the key, it glowed and took off on the first cyl to hit the power stroke. It makes me remember why I

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Sweet. I envy people with music degrees. Don't even get me started about music. Music moves me. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Luther??? What are the B.A. degrees in? Humm? OK Don has me wondering. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston

Re: [MBZ] new addition

2007-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
You are a serious bottom feeder! Congratulations on the new addition! --R Sunil Hari wrote: 1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with brown MB-Tex interior. Got it for $400 and immediately drove it 80 miles home without incident. Back in the club!

Re: [MBZ] new addition

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Good job, Sunil. You'll love it I'm sure. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] new addition 1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with

[MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
After being gone for 4 days, I returned home tonight and saw a 5' long puddle under the 87 300D. It appears to be ATF, although there is no red color apparent in the dab I picked up with my finger. Last summer it was puking ATF at the rate of a qt to 50 miles from the front of the trans.

Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the drainers and suckers on the list. I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a year to check the steering components and anything else. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to be left out,

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Are you in Boston? If you are there for awhile longer you need to go to a Boston Camerata concert, in one of the old churches. Medieval and Renaissance music on original instruments and amazing voices, heavenly stuff. Sit close, and enjoy! I miss them terribly. --R Luther wrote: I'm

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well the only other oily like fluids are power steering, brake and blinker. Check them and go from there. Loren Faeth wrote: After being gone for 4 days, I returned home tonight and saw a 5' long puddle under the 87 300D. It appears to be ATF, although there is no red color apparent in the

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:29:40 +1030 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the only other oily like fluids are power steering, brake and blinker. Check them and go from there. There is also A/C compressor oil, which is clear. Power steering fluid can be clear or read depending upon what you

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
There are others. :-) On 11/25/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther has a degree in music --- On Nov 25, 2007 5:29 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time

Re: [MBZ] new addition

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. At 09:52 PM 11/25/2007, you wrote: You are a serious bottom feeder! Congratulations on the new addition! --R Sunil Hari wrote: 1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with brown MB-Tex interior. Got it for $400 and

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
PS is ok, Brake fluid is ok. Just had a blinkenfluid flush and fill at the stealership. Set me back about 2800 clams. Wonder if they disposed of the used blinkenfluid by putting it inside the frame box so it leaks out on my driveway! This car has a habit of marking its territory, but not

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
This amount of brake fluid, and the whole system would be empty. There are only a few OZ. of A/C oil, not near enough for this lake. This is a pint or so, I'd say. The puddle is 5-6 feet long and 1 1/2 to 2 feet wide. I like Hendrik's Blikenfluid suggestion! Makes sense to me! At 10:04 PM

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
We have had Musica Antiqua in Ames for the past 30 years or so. We also have a great Renaissance feast in late January at which the Musica Antiqua folks are a big part.I enjoy it, as well as most of the other music offering in town. I like the free concerts best. Although, when the Stones

[MBZ] Roof rack

2007-11-25 Thread Mnetzky1
Any recommendations out there on roof top racks for a 83 300D? Thanks. Mike N. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___

Re: [MBZ] The truth about X-Ice

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
I ran my blizzaks down to baldness last winter, with no problems. I had 4 on the 126. I thought they were terrific. THere now seems to be a variety of blizzaks, so I am a bit confused as to what is the real blizzak. I'd say I was on the last 1/2 of the Blizzak tread for the past 3 winters,

Re: [MBZ] Roof rack

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
A 300TD comes with em. You'll have fun with an Estate car At 10:32 PM 11/25/2007, you wrote: Any recommendations out there on roof top racks for a 83 300D? Thanks. Mike N. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:15:49 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This amount of brake fluid, and the whole system would be empty. There are only a few OZ. of A/C oil, not near enough for this lake. This is a pint or so, I'd say. The puddle is 5-6 feet long and 1 1/2 to 2 feet wide.

Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...

2007-11-25 Thread OK Don
The University of Oklahoma here in Norman has much the same - one of the reasons we enjoy town. Football is NOT another reason (the town doubles in size during home games). On Nov 25, 2007 10:25 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have had Musica Antiqua in Ames for the past 30 years or

Re: [MBZ] new addition

2007-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote: Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it. I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Peter Frederick
Been sitting quite a while? The torque converter can leak down, overfilling the tranny so that fluid comes out the vent on top, drips down the side and off the bell housing. Cure it to not let it sit more than a month or so without starting it. The power steering pump holds about a half a

Re: [MBZ] EPC hardware/Successful Search

2007-11-25 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 11/24/2007 8:57:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was that Java 6 you downloaded? They do say Java 6 is not supported, but since it's the latest version of Java ... Craig, and all, Yup, Java 6, another program supposedly too new to work on

[MBZ] German cat names [was: Re: Oil puzzlement]

2007-11-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:10:25 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should name if for some kind of male cat. WHat is German for lion, tiger etc? Oh, Tiger is Teeger, too much like a cartoon character. Actually, though pronounced like Teeger, it's spelled Tiger. Lion is Löwe as in

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread E M
Ok, seen it a few times but never asked. What is blinker fluid? I'm curious. :-) Ed 300E On 25/11/2007, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the only other oily like fluids are power steering, brake and blinker. Check them and go from there. Loren Faeth wrote: After being gone

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Timothy Robinson
My idiot 2 cents.. I had a car (non-MB) would develop leaks in winter when the weather was colder. I'd find puddles in the (unheated) garage. I kept watch on the fluid levels and the leak would stop in the summer only to return at first frost. At the time it was cheaper to just add fluid than to

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Timothy Robinson
I'd never heard of blinker fluid either (LOL) but I've gathered that it's very expensive to change for from reading here, the cost of service at the MB dealership (stealership?) goes up immensely when they are asked to perform the service. OY! on 11/26/07 12:17 AM, E M at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] The truth about X-Ice

2007-11-25 Thread Chaykowsky
There are two types of winter tires. Snow tires and winter tires. Snow tires have a course tread, trap snow in the lugs and the trapped snow contacting the snow on the ground is what gives you traction. This kind of tire is for the really snowy regions. Most urban folks don't require these. The

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Timothy Robinson
PS.. this place sells it $8.99 http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=6 on 11/26/07 12:17 AM, E M at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, seen it a few times but never asked. What is blinker fluid? I'm curious. :-) Ed 300E On 25/11/2007, Hendrik Fay

Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy

2007-11-25 Thread archer
archer wrote: Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be interesting to have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the engine lasted longer than usual. Get a pressure accumulator, capacity of at

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Sitting since Wednesday is all. At 10:42 PM 11/25/2007, you wrote: Been sitting quite a while? The torque converter can leak down, overfilling the tranny so that fluid comes out the vent on top, drips down the side and off the bell housing. Cure it to not let it sit more than a month or so

Re: [MBZ] German cat names [was: Re: Oil puzzlement]

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
My favorites out of the list are Gepard, Strassendime especially since my first MB, (62 190Dc) was der (das?) Strassenlaunfer (never could quite figger out how to spell it. It was supposed to be translation of roadrunner. Seems appropriate since it went through a charity auction and 3

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Hmm... Wonder if Rusty is aware of that! heretofore, the MB special Blinkenfluid has been dealer-install only. Kinda like the magical (shortlived) sealed for life transmissions Rusty! Wake up! Where ARE you when we need you? At 11:25 PM 11/25/2007, you wrote: PS.. this place sells it

Re: [MBZ] EPC hardware

2007-11-25 Thread David Bruckmann
It works on Macs. Sunil Hari wrote: I run Mac, but I signed up for it just in case I ever need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 1985 380SE if anyone is interested

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Bigham
Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:18:34 -0500 Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 380SE if anyone is interested To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Nov 21, 2007 5:53 AM, Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has had $1995 CASH on

[MBZ] Parking car in gear

2007-11-25 Thread Peter Merle
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear ( manual tranny ) . One would think that eventually ( after a few seconds/minutes ) the rings will leak air and the car would then lurch fwd and then start a runway.

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement

2007-11-25 Thread David Bruckmann
Torque converter leak happened on my 78 300D. At first it took several weeks for it to leak out the xmission overflow. Towards the end it only took a few days. If you start the car after it has sat for a while, put it in drive, and it initially doesn't want to go anywhere (because the torque

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2007-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
There was an after market turbo kit available for the 240D - I believe it sold for about $2600.00. Mercedes recommended against the kit because the engine was not designed (over engineered) for a turbo like the 3 liter turbo engines. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924

Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement and synthetic blinker fluid price

2007-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
I don't think even Rusty can compete with that price for synthetic. Never seen it that cheap. Loren Faeth wrote: Hmm... Wonder if Rusty is aware of that! heretofore, the MB special Blinkenfluid has been dealer-install only. Kinda like the magical (shortlived) sealed for life

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