The AC manifold hose in my 83 300 DT is leaking. It was rebuilt once before,
so my trusted indy recommended a replacement if I want to fix it. The total
bill will be in the neighborhood of $800-900, with parts from Rusty.
I don't know if I should proceed this route or cut my emotional tie a
If it's just leaking around the crimp, there's no reason that you
couldn't get a new piece of rubber put on your assembly for $20-40 .
About the only time that you can't is if the metal part is pitted ( not
likely with the car being in that climate all it's life ) or if the
previous repair invo
I think you should sell the thing to me for $50 :-)
Seriously though, how long ago was the hose fixed before? Where exactly
is it leaking now? the middle of the hose, at the crimp fittings? When
the hose assembly was " rebuilt" before, did they cut off the crimp
collars and put the new hose on,
If you decided to sell the old 300Dt, what would replace it? You spent lots
of money on it that you'll certainly never get back, and the chances are
pretty good that a similar car may need the same things. If you're stickin'
with Mercedes diesels, keep it rather than starting all over with ano
05, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
> The AC manifold hose in my 83 300 DT is leaking. It was rebuilt once
> before, so my trusted indy recommended a replacement if I want to fix it.
> The total bill will be in the neighborhood of $800-900, with parts from
> Rusty.
&g
e car easier to sell.
Where are you located? I've been looking for another car for awhile now.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:57:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Conte
Robert,
I don't know how long ago and how the hose was rebuilt.This was done by the
previous ownber.
The leak is at the bottom, where the crimp fitting is. I saw drops of fluid
coming out, and it was confirmed with UV light.
The labor for this thing is 3 hours, plus the cost of the evacua
> The labor for this thing is 3 hours, plus the cost of the
> evacuation, and filling up with 3 lbs of refrigerant.
For the price you were quoted you could remove it yourself and take
it to a hose shop for another (proper) rebuild, and _buy_ all the
AC tools, and supplies, to do it yourself. A
Kevin,
This car was born and kept in California for 20 years, and then to AZ, so
there's no rust problem. That's one reason I'm attached to the car.
On the other hand, I'd be really screwed if I fix this and then the
transmission develops a problem,
If I sell this, probably will get a ne
Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:57:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Johnson
Subject: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
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The AC manifold hose in my 83 300 DT is leaking. It was rebuilt once
before, so my trusted indy recommen
Jim,
I agree that the price is kind of high. Got 2 estimates and they were about
$100 difference.
I've never worked on AC before so I'm kind of chicken about it.
You're rignt about the challenge of selling it in AZ w/o air. I'm just
worried about fixing this and then something like a tran
amount.
>
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>Subject: [MBZ] Fix
Jim Cathey wrote:
> For the price you were quoted you could remove it yourself and take
> it to a hose shop for another (proper) rebuild, and _buy_ all the
> AC tools, and supplies, to do it yourself.
And if you're lucky (they are cheap, but hard to find unless you buy
ahead of the need) you'll
David,
consider what you could buy to replace it with; even though what
you've got now isn't exactly a low-mileage example, certainly it would
cost more to buy something else comparable than it will cost to repair
what you have now, and there's no guarantee you wouldn't have the issues
wit
David Johnson wrote:
> I'm just worried about fixing this and then something like a transmission
> problem crops up.
When you shift from park to reverse, how long does it take before reverse
engages?
You could probably sell a car like that "just needs the A/C recharged" in the
rust belt for a
Loren,
I agree. Mathematically, you're right. The Car Talk guys are also in this
camp.
One other thing that the wife brought up was how safe is the car compared to
the new ones with airbags, and all the likes.
David
Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you bought a new car, what
ursday, September 06, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
> Kevin,
> This car was born and kept in California for 20 years, and then to AZ, so
> there's no rust problem. That's one reason I'm attached to the car.
> On the other hand, I'd be really scr
Ernest,
A lot of the things that I replaced were the result of "new owner excitement
syndrome." For example, I replaced the shocks and the seat cushions because I
figured they must have been out with time. The only problems that I
encountered were leaking oil cooler, faltering alt with the
David Johnson wrote:
> My indy sais the compressor is still good. Is there a way to prognosticate
> on compressor, dryer, etc?
Compressors last a long time, provided they are fed plentiful dry freon
with adequate oil in it. Dryers ($25-50) should be replaced whenever
you open the system for re
hi David!
if you don't need to worry about the compressor (and it sounds like
you don't), i'd consider the receiver/dryer a filter, and replace it if
i had the system open to do any work (especially if the POs service was
questionable!). for the prices you were quoting, i would think that
In a message dated 9/6/2007 8:11:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm in Arizona, so the AC is almost a necessity for most of the year.
I really need to fix or sell the car, unfortunately.
David,
The price you got ($800 ) is fair considering you are replacin
Sometimes 1 or 2 seconds.
Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Johnson wrote:
> I'm just worried about fixing this and then something like a transmission
> problem crops up.
When you shift from park to reverse, how long does it take before reverse
engages?
You
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On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I really feel that any clean drivable Mercedes deserves to be fixed forever!
Amen to that!
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no sphere issues; unless he mistyped it (twice!), David's talking
about a sedan, not a wagon.
cheers!
e
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> In your MB future, rear spheres will probably show up on the fix it list
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Jim,
I maybe wrong, but I recall the tag was like $21 per year, the lowest that I
ever have to pay.
CN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/6/2007 8:11:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm in Arizona, so the AC is almost a necessity for most of the ye
AM
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Jim,
I maybe wrong, but I recall the tag was like $21 per year, the lowest that
I ever have to pay.
CN
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In a message dated 9/6/2007 8:11:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
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I'm
Robert,
Thanks for your advice.
I'll check with the local shop. What kills me is the labotr to evacuate the
R12 and to put the new hose on is listed as 3 hours by the book, plus 3 lbs of
the R12.
It's a slow leak, with drops of dye-colored fluid coming out right where the
crimp fitting is
Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote:
>
> If cash is an issue and occasional recharges aren't the way you want to
> go, , you might just want to get the system sucked down, then replace
> the parts yourself, get the hose some new rubber, pop the 134 fittings
> on, get it sucked down or rent a vacuum pu
> considering you are replacing a hose unit
> that terminates under the dash on one end,
I didn't think that this hose actually went that far. If we
are talking about the manifold hose that bolts to the back of
the compressor itself. There are joints along the way.
-- Jim
Thanks, Jim.
Good write-up and kind of humorous, too,
Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never worked on AC before so I'm kind of chicken about it.
No time like the present. It's amazing what a no-fear attitude
and some thought can lead you through.
http://userweb.windwireless.net
> I've never worked on AC before so I'm kind of chicken about it.
No time like the present. It's amazing what a no-fear attitude
and some thought can lead you through.
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwair.html
-- Jim
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Talking about safety
http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?p=26686#26686
Lucky so and so.
However the point is that the miracle air bag will not save your life if
you are squashed in a can or the car is torn to pieces.
Those safety tests are done at relatively slow speed and act as a guide
that car A i
Jim,
You're right.
David
Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> considering you are replacing a hose unit
> that terminates under the dash on one end,
I didn't think that this hose actually went that far.
-
Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please?
Wish I had a 124. Mine is a 123.
The wife just threw out the Honda brand more or less because of "repair
fatigue," rather than an affinity to a particular brand. We did have an Acura
that was problem free for 10 years, until one of the heads cracked.
Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The
Nowadays everyone puts so much emphasis on airbags, that they seem to
have forgot that airbags are, by definition , a supplemental restraint.
Their primary reason for being is that so many people forget to or just
don't use seatbelts, that the insurance companies figured that mandatory
suppleme
There is also the other write-up, the one describing
my first-ever attempts at AC servicing.
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/efair.html
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From: "David Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
> I'm in Arizona, so the AC is almost a necessity for most of the year.
>
If it's a slow leak that goes down maybe a cans worth a year, you really
might want to do the test bit so you can buy a few cans and charge it
yourself.
That whole book hours thing is a great money maker . Yes the whole
process would take about three hours, but 2 1/2 of those are spent
letting
David Johson wrote:
"... I hate to say to her that this is really the last big-ticket item,
and then the next day something else comes up."
How many of us are in the same situation? We fix, fix, and it's never
fixed! Well, it's the "Mercedes-Benz way of life..."
For a daily user basis, a pre-85
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell
David Johson wrote:
"... I hate to say to her that this is really the last big-ticket item,
and then the next day something else comes up."
How many of us are i
> For a daily user basis, a pre-85 Mercedes does or doesn't worth
> never-ending fixings?
A brand-new car often ends up in the shop, sometimes a little,
sometimes a lot. 'Free', but there is still the PITA factor.
After a year or two you should be past that and coasting on
its newness. For seve
It ehlps if working on your old Mercedes is your hobby --- you'd be
spending the time/money on something else if you weren't spending it
on the car.
On 10/20/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For a daily user basis, a pre-85 Mercedes does or doesn't worth
> > never-ending fixings?
>
>
This is another good example of why the US should not be in charge of
the world, just about every civilized nation has banned R12 due to it
doing nasty things to the ozone but h no not you and why should you?
After all you have the bomb and it is your right to use ozone depleting
substances
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This is another good example of why the US should not be in charge of
the world, just about every civilized nation has banned R12 due to it
doing nasty things to the ozone but h no not you a
Well obviously according to those scientists, there is in fact no ozone
layer and all the pollution we are producing is actually good for the
environment.
And if those scientists are wrong, what are you gonna do? After all they
have cashed their cheques and are now living somewhere in the Bahama
Well yes there are still cars in Oz with R12 in the system but it is now
unobtanium and releasing it into the atmosphere is against the law.
Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Manufacturing new R12 has been banned in this country but there is still
> old stock around, plus re-cyclers are re-processing stock.
"Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote:
>
> Well, all they are required to do is see your license to purchase
> refrigerant. They do not need a business license. What you do with it is
> none of their business either.
Parts stores usually want my business (sales tax) license # before giving
me a who
Hendrik wrote:
>
> Well yes there are still cars in Oz with R12 in the system but it is now
> unobtanium and releasing it into the atmosphere is against the law.
Releasing R12 can win us a USD10,000 fine. What's it cost down under,
or do they jail you? We pay the same fine if we release R134a,
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
> It is also illegal to release here and legal purchase is very difficult.
> There are two parts houses in town that still sel
: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
> Kaleb,
>
> Actually, there is proof that R12 damages the ozone layer & the
> scientists understand exactly how the process occurs. They have even
> sampled & found R12 in the stratosphere
y, September 07, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
>
>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote:
>>
>> Well, all they are required to do is see your license to purchase
>> refrigerant. They do not need a business license. What you do with it
&
You pablum eater and kool aide drinkers crack me up. Ozone is
continually created in the upper atmosphere in vast quantities by
sunlight acting on the gases present. It is the height of hubris to
think mans puny efforts even if they were intentional could have a
significant effect. R12 was banned a
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:25:09 -0500 "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You pablum eater and kool aide drinkers crack me up. Ozone is
> continually created in the upper atmosphere in vast quantities by
> sunlight acting on the gases present. It is the height of hubris to
> think mans puny effor
LarryT wrote:
> At last, the voice of Reality!! DuPont got the Ozone scare started when
> everybody and their brother was making it in garages and little factories
> all over the world. And DP didn;t get a penny from it - which was the
> whole problem. Now, as Bob so eloquently stated, D
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:25 AM
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propaganda. In fact, there is no real proof that r12 does damage to the
ozone.
Hendrik wrote:
>
Here's the latest news on the accelerated melting of the polar ice caps but
not to worry, every word is probably a lie:
"The Arctic ice cap is melting faster than previously thought, and it will
shrink 40 percent by 2050 in most regions, according to a National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administrati
propaganda. In fact, there is no real proof that r12 does damage to the
ozone.
Hendrik wrote:
> This is another good example of why the US should not be in charge of
> the world, just about every civilized nation has banned R12 due to it
> doing nasty things to the ozone but h no not you a
andrew strasfogel wrote:
> NOAA oceanographer James Overland and agency meteorologist Muyin Wang based
> their calculations on the carbon dioxide that is in the atmosphere. That
> pollution will greatly diminish the ice by 2050, regardless of future curbs
> on emissions, Overland said.
That's no
stated that my Porsche was a little low (the truth).
Now I buy from eBay resellers who are peddling the last of the old stock
& will be for a while.
Tom
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> Here's the latest news on the accelerated melting of the polar ice caps
> but
> not to worry, every word is probably a lie:
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:25:09 -0500 "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> You pablum eater and kool aide drinkers crack me up. Ozone is
> continually created in the upp
Kaleb -
I thought that I heard that the Northern areas are receding and the south
pole is expanding.
Barry
> yea, the glaziers are melting. Wonder why quite a few are expanding?
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The scientists don't understand why either but they do measue traces of
R12 in the stratosphere. The other issue is that the free chlorine acts
as a catalyst to break down ozone.
Thanks,
;
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion
>
> Tom
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> To: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; Mercedes Discussion List
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The scientists don't understand why either but they do measue traces of
R12 in the stratosphere. The other issue is that the free chlorine acts
as a catalyst to break do
actually, that is not true either, that is, well, I guess, an urban
legend of sorts.
Trampas wrote:
> What happened is Dupont's patent expired then the scientists found the
> problem. Luckly Dupont had the solution in R134 which they have a patent
> on...
>
> Trampas
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Trampas wrote:
> What happened is Dupont's patent expired then the scientists found
> the problem. Luckly Dupont had the solution in R134 which they have a
> patent on...
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/refrigerant_history.php
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Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> and Im sure I can find out just as much proof to the contrary. In other
> words, who knows.
>
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>
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>
> The scientists don't understand why either but they do measue traces of
> R12 i
And you're evidence is?
It is all very nice to try and discredit things we don't particularly
want to hear but once all the polar bears have drowned it will be you
and your super consumer mates who will have to try and explain that this
is all part of a natural cycle.
All I want is the truth, be
Carbon tetrachloride is not freon. R12 Freon is CCl2F2 or
diclorodifluoromethane.
The boiling point of diclorodifluoromethane at -29.8 °C vs. 1465 °C
for sodium chloride might explain why it's not found much in the
stratosphere.
FTR, the molecular weight of R12 is 121, and salt is 58, not that it
I believe you are able to correct wikipedia articles if you feel that
they are not accurate. However make sure that you have references (no,
using okiebenz listers as references is not going to work) and list them
at the end of the article.
Perhaps you and the 'everything is sweet' crowd can get
And that's the problem we have - too much "science" is based on a
priori knowledge - like that excess stomach acid makes stomach ulcers.
Finally someone had the audacity to culture one and found that they
are bacterial infections. The scientists had "known" that bacteria
couldn't live in the stomac
well you will be waiting a while then.
Hendrik wrote:
> OK, we are waiting.
>
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>> and Im sure I can find out just as much proof to the contrary. In other
>> words, who knows.
>>
>> ---
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>>
>>
>
> _
Many of the scientists who supported this so called global warming
problem are now backing down. All this supposed research started when,
in the 80's? That is not long enough to see the big picture. I guess
our R12 and big SUV's are also warming up Mars too. Wow, we really do
polute alot, gee
> This is just another myth. Dupont's Freon patent ran out in the 1950s,
> long
> before the ozone problem was discovered and they do not have a patent
> on
> R134a. There are 5 major manufacturers of R134a & Dupont is just one
> of them.
A patent holder may choose to license the patent to othe
> I'm not sure the state of all research into this topic, but I've always
> wondered how carbon tetrachloride (freon) with a molecular weight of
> 152
> would be more prevalent in the upper atmosphere than the vastly more
> available sodium chloride (in sea water) which has a molecular weight
> o
Nobody wants to be the 'boy who cried wolf' but I guess we can wait till
we have conclusive proof that we are damaging the environment and then
perhaps think about ways we could possibly perhaps maybe reduce
emissions by .0008%. Perhaps instead of buying that 7 liter SUV to ferry
the kids to so
Apart from everything else, what do you think would happen to DuPont if
they where found out to be deliberately using the global warming issue
to increase profits?
Probably nothing in the US (well they would get a medal from the Prez
for being outstanding corporate citizens) but in the PC EU the
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:42:11 -0500 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carbon tetrachloride is not freon. R12 Freon is CCl2F2 or
> diclorodifluoromethane.
Oops. You're right, CCl2F2, not CCl4.
> The boiling point of diclorodifluoromethane at -29.8 °C vs. 1465 °C
> for sodium chloride might ex
heck no, if you have a need for a big vehicle for hauling, then by all
means, have it. Just to drive around in is stupid. Everyone should be
more efficient, but I do not think they should be forced to. Its up to
the individual.
Hendrik wrote:
> Nobody wants to be the 'boy who cried wolf' bu
Perhaps instead of buying that 7 liter SUV to ferry
the kids to soccer, we'll opt for the 6.8 liter and get that warm, fussy
feeling that we have personally saved the planet from becoming a hot house.
In my family fleet, there have been quite a few changes in vehicles over the
past couple years,
I kind of had my eye on a small displacement Lambo LM002, it's only
5.2litres. Mind you, those 12 cylinders do burn through that 76
gallon/ 290
litre tank of premium gas kind of fast. hee hee. Hmm, maybe a diesel
conversion project?? :-)
Ed
300E
On 08/09/2007, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
what is the German word for Box?)
Sprinter
Kevin Kraly wrote:
> SNIPPED>
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who got dropped off at MBI today for much needed
> attention
> 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, The Box (what is the German word for Box?)
>
>
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>
> I kind of had my eye on a small displacement Lambo LM002, it's only
> 5.2litres. Mind you, those 12 cylinders do burn through that 76
> gallon/ 290
> litre tank of premium gas kind of fast. hee hee. Hmm, maybe a diesel
> conversion project?? :-)
Now that might be interesting. Kno
Now that's quite funny saying that Sprinter is the German word for box! At
least the nose has some curvature to it. We hauled the boat behind it for
the first time the other day, and it did well. It isn't the powerhouse that
the Cummins was, but that's fine with me.
Kevin in Portland, OR
198
Kevin Kraly wrote:
> 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, The Box
IIRC, "The Box" was the actual name of a 1970's kit car.
It was shaped like a shoe box with a wedge shaped nose,
open wheels, four wheel steering via a foot operated
handlebar (hydraulic), and hand throttle. I can't remember
what powered it.
forget how ugly you are... Etc.
The irony is when you remember I work in the television industry...
-Curt
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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:04:26 -0500
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heck no, if you
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:53:04 +0930 Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what is the German word for Box?)
There are several, with different shades of meaning:
die Schachtel box, package
der Kasten box, chest, bin, hutch showcase
die Kiste box, case, chest, crate
das Behältn
Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is ZERO personal accountability in the world today.
-Curt
Amen to that!!
With the possible exceptions of the people on this list and a few saints.
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>> There is ZERO personal accountability in the world today.
> With the possible exceptions of the people on this list...
Whatchew mean, Willis? There's no accounting for me at all!
-- Jim
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Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There is ZERO personal accountability
in the world today.
> With the possible exceptions of the people on this list...
Whatchew mean, Willis? There's no accounting for me at all!
-- Jim
As you well know, James, you are in both categories!
Fred Moir
Lynn
I love this post!! :-) hee hee
Ed
300E
On 08/09/2007, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> No matter what anybody says people are, deep down, inherently greedy
> horrible little bastards.
> How some people manage to rise above it and collaborate on anything is one
> of the amazing myste
And that is the premise and major point of Al Gore's recent book -
"The Assault on Reason".
On 9/8/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TV is the real enemy, people get seated in front of that idiot box and I
> swear it literally sucks their brains out through their eyes.
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OK Don, K
with 12 volts applied they should hold vacuum at the vacuum port with
the out port plugged
OK Don wrote:
> And that is the premise and major point of Al Gore's recent book -
> "The Assault on Reason".
>
> On 9/8/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> TV is the real enemy, people get s
die Kiste box, case, chest, crate
I guess this one would work for the Sprinter, and when she gets old, die
alte Kiste would work.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, die neue Kiste
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> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
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> > Here's the latest news on the accelerated melting of the polar ice caps
> > but
> > not to worry, every word is probably a lie:
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Glaziers? Guys who hang glass are melting?
This is the first I've heard of this...
Dan
--- andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> < few are expanding?>>
>
Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible t
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