AW: Cluster Question (remote defs in overlapping clusters)

2002-11-25 Thread Raabe, Stefan
Peter, i get a little bit confused by the mix of your remotequeues and qmgr aliases, and the setup you described in this mail sounds different from the setup you described before, but both setups look like a works as designed to me. see my comments () below. regards stefan

Re: Problem with MQAX200.dll

2002-11-25 Thread Kiernan, Andrew
Title: RE: Problem with MQAX200.dll Reddy: The MQQueue class has a property CurrentDepth which will return a long containing the info. you want. Cheers, Andy. -Original Message- From: vemulapati narasimha reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 18:52 To:

Re: Mistery: 2043 - MQRC-OBJECT-TYPE-ERROR

2002-11-25 Thread Srivathsa T.V.
I am no COM expert, but looking into the MQ Series information centre this is what is mentioned This error occurs while doing an MQOPEN without specifying an object type. 2043 - MQRC_OBJECT_TYPE_ERROR On the MQOPEN or MQPUT1 call, the

Re: Multi CPU box for MQSI

2002-11-25 Thread Bruce Olsen
Maybe I don't see your point, but doesn't that negate the benefits of Symmetrical Multi-Processing? Don't do for the operating system what the operating system will do for you. -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT) Sent:

Re: Multi CPU box for MQSI

2002-11-25 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
When MQSI is doing its thing and is real busy with heavy volume going thru an ESQL heavy compute node, the MCAs on the box get left with no resources. As a result we see XMIT queues to this box temporarily back up as the sending MCAs can't talk to the receivers, because the receivers have no

Re: Websphere MQ questions

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Broderick
OH!!! NO!! It's the LISTSERVer Police! bee-oh-dubble-bee-dubble-egh!! From: Christopher Fryett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Websphere MQ questions Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:51:20 -0600 Tia,

Re: Multi CPU box for MQSI

2002-11-25 Thread David Sieberg
Peter, I think we are experiencing this problem also with the sending MCA on our NT qmgr/broker machines. I thought I had the same problem with the receiving MCA, although it turned out to be security related. For instance we have messages that are sent from an OS/390 qmgr to our NT qmgr/broker

Re: Multi CPU box for MQSI

2002-11-25 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Because of the sporadic volume of messages, and the fact there are applications that need their messages ASAP, we have the BATCHINT set to zero. we need the message to go over the wire right away. I don't know if running the MCA on the MQSI queue manager as a FASTPATH app would help or not, or

MQ message segmentation

2002-11-25 Thread Hoshooley, Anne
What version of MQ Series is required on MVS to allow message segmentation? Anne Hoshooley Systems Specialist - Information Services ATT Canada (416)345-3486 on net 8-862-3486 teleworking (519)772-3008 Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General

Persistent

2002-11-25 Thread Williams, Dave (Systems Management)
If I change a queue to persistent, does that change take effect immediately or do I have to restart the QMGR (NT5.2). Thanks

Re: Retrying Channel Status?

2002-11-25 Thread eugene rosenberg
Can it be connected with the length of the message? Ping message is short. Eugene Rosenberg --- Pope, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a situation between an Win2K (5.3) and AS/400 (5.2) box with a sender channel stuck in retrying mode. If I manually stop the channel I can ping it

Re: Persistent

2002-11-25 Thread Glen Larson
Dave, The change is immediate for all new messages put directly into the queue by the application, where the application does not specify anything on the put. so if you are using and alias, and change only the base, that does not change any messages put via the alias. conversely if you change

Exporting a flow from WMQI for promotion/version control purposes .

2002-11-25 Thread John Scott
Title: Exporting a flow from WMQI for promotion/version control purposes. When I export a flow from WMQI that uses sub-flows, the dependant sub-flow(s) get exported into the file also. Is there any way I can export each flow to a separate file without each export containing all the dependant

Re: MQ message segmentation

2002-11-25 Thread David C. Partridge
No version of MQ for OS/390 or z/OS supports segmentation, though version 5 does support conversion of the MDE, so you can do you own segment reassembly. Dave Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at

Re: MQ message segmentation

2002-11-25 Thread Quigley, Robert
Keep in mind if you don't have the required version, you can still break apart messages and send to MVS. It would be an app-specific algorithm, but between get-by-correl id and knowing how many messages made up the unit of work, it's not too difficult to code yourself. Also could use AMI send /

Re: Retrying Channel Status?

2002-11-25 Thread Pope, Ben
Checking the suggested logs, it was a sequencing error. Since I reset the channels its been working fine. I am curious though as to what types of situations can give rise to a sequencing error. In production (if we ever get that far) the systems will be operating across a VPN with

Compiling MQSeries progs on Linux

2002-11-25 Thread Howarth, Chris
Does anyone have a good knowledge of Linux programming with MQSeries? I am trying to recompile some of my C++ programs on RedHat Linux 8.0. The MQSeries (5.3.1) readme says I need libstdc++.so.3 to compile the samples (which my installation didn't have), so I dutifully downloaded an rpm package

Re: Retrying Channel Status?

2002-11-25 Thread Adiraju S Rao
Ben, Once the channels are running and working fine you should not get any sequencing errors, unless some one actually tampers with the syncq or manually issues reset channel. The network problems should not effect the seq number. So the chances for you to get similar errors in production is

Checking the MQMD Expiry in WMQI

2002-11-25 Thread John Scott
Title: Checking the MQMD Expiry in WMQI If a message is set to unlimited expiry, the MQMD.Expiry is treated as an integer in WMQI. If the message is not set to unlimited expiry the MQMD.Expiry is treated as a timestamp. If I don't know what the Expiry interval is, how do I compare it without

Re: Retrying Channel Status?

2002-11-25 Thread Luc-Michel Demey
Date sent: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 12:49:49 -0500 Send reply to: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Pope, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Retrying Channel Status? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Checking the suggested logs, it was a

Re: Problem with MQAX200.dll

2002-11-25 Thread Narasimha reddy.V
Hi Andrew Thank you very much for the reply but ..I have tried to get depth value using currentDepth property type..But it's giving me error like "Option are wrong.." and MQQueue:.GetCurrentdepth:"" What type options I have to set for MQQueue and for MQGetMessageoptions.. regards /Reddy /Reddy

Sizing a Sun Server for MQ

2002-11-25 Thread Wesley Shaw
We have an application which at times will be processing lots of messages in a short period of time. Somewhere around 100,000 request per hour, followed by the same reply message amounts. Then another 100,000 of larger messages flowing in the same direction of the reply. So a total of 300,000 per

Re: Retrying Channel Status?

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Broderick
hat are your error logs saying??// From: eugene rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Retrying Channel Status? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:41:18 -0800 Can it be connected with the length of the message? Ping

Channel Status Codes

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Broderick
I have lost hem again!! I need the actual codes for the Channel Status (ie 1,2,3,4,5,6) and their meaning. I looked in the Admin, Tele and Pgmrs Ref. I am either missing it or IBM pulled them out. I get the inactive, binding, running' stuff but not the codes for the English. I'm trying to set up

Re: Sizing a Sun Server for MQ

2002-11-25 Thread Rick Tsujimoto
If the messages are non-persistent, then the impact on disk I/O should be minimum. Non-persistent messages are kept in buffers and only go to real disk when buffer space is exhausted. As long as the applications pull the messages at a good clip, the over-flow to real disk should be a small risk.

Re: Channel Status Codes

2002-11-25 Thread John Scott
My list gives me: 0 INACTIVE 1 BINDING 2 STARTING 3 RUNNING 4 STOPPING 5 RETRYING 6 STOPPED 7 REQUESTING 8 PAUSED 13 INITIALISING HTH John. -Original Message- From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 November 2002 18:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Channel

Re: Checking the MQMD Expiry in WMQI

2002-11-25 Thread Welch, Karen S (PLC, IT)
Title: Checking the MQMD Expiry in WMQI Hi John, Can you tell me where this behavior is documented? Thanks Karen -Original Message-From: John Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Checking the MQMD Expiry in WMQI If a

Re: Problem with MQAX200.dll

2002-11-25 Thread Marty Frasier
Reddy, I'm not terribly familiar with MQAX but did you include the MQOO_INQUIRE option on your queue open call? HTH, Marty Frasier e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Narasimha reddy.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/2002 01:27 PM Please respond to MQSeries List

Re: channel security exit

2002-11-25 Thread Peter Heggie
I'm not an expert in C, and there is probably a better way of writing this, but this works for me (similar to your assignment statement): strncpy(od.ObjectName,queue,MQ_Q_NAME_LENGTH); where od is declared previously with: MQOD od = {MQOD_DEFAULT};/* Object Descriptor */ and

AMQ9420

2002-11-25 Thread Barclay . BW
Got MQ V5.3 on NT and seem to be having some problems getting clustering to work properly. I joined an NT Qmgr to a cluster and if I do a dis clusqmgr(*) in any of the other AIX Qmgrs I can see the joined NT Qmgr but I can't see any of the shared queues. Nor can I PUT to the shared queues (of

Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Steely
Channel Initiation on OS/390. We are OS/390 V2.8 amd MQ Series V2.1. MQ on OS/390 has been configured with the appropriate Queue and Channel definitions. However, channels communicating with distributed MQ Qmgrs refuse to initiate. The XmitQ definition is set with a Process that is defined with

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Peter Heggie
Two things - the process definition must have the channel name in the USERDATA field second - I'm not totally sure the applid is QX52 if you are on MQ 2.1, unless you are being pro-active and just renamed the old CSQX module (thats the applid we point to for 2.1). Peter From: Mark Steely

Triggering when CKTI comes up

2002-11-25 Thread MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE (AIT)
If there are messages on a queue that is set to trigger a CICS transaction on FIRST, and the CICS region is down, will a trigger message be generated when the CICS region and CKTI trigger monitor first come up? I thought yes, but IBM support just told me no. I don't want to spend a lot of time

Re: AMQ9420

2002-11-25 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
Bruce, Have you tried explicitly defining a Cluster Sender queue from the repository back to the NT box? I had similar problems until I read that the repository information flows along explicitly defined channels. Once I did that, the cluster on my NT box refreshed itself of it's own accord.

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Bullock, Rebecca (CSC)
Mark, I assume that it's not something as simple as remembering to turn on the triggering? We're running V5.2, but I don't think that should make a difference on this. On our initiated channels, the process definition says CSQX START. Where did the QX52 come from? Or was it a typo? -- Rebecca

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Crook
Was that a typo for the APPLICID ? Ours have: Application ID : CSQX START. The command Ref manulal says that's what it should be for distributed queueing without CICS. Richard. Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED]@AKH-WIEN.AC.AT on 26/11/2002 09:25:39 Please respond to MQSeries List [EMAIL

Re: channel security exit

2002-11-25 Thread Arlen Williams
char queue[49]; /* Queue name*/ queue[49] = '\0'; I think you really meant the following. queue[48] = '\0'; -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Heggie Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: MQe usage

2002-11-25 Thread Rob Crippen
Title: MQe usage Gary, We used MQe (version 1.26) to support a customer's need to support about 1000 field engineers who use laptop devices (some Win98 some Win2K) to obtain information from an MQSeries enabled set of legacy applications. The key was designing the MQe topology, and the

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE (AIT)
You need to have the sender channel name in the USERDATA field of the process. Also, I believe the APPLICID parameter has to be CSQX START (not QX52, which I assume is your queue manager name). And the channel initiator has to be running, of course. -Original Message- From: Mark

Re: channel security exit

2002-11-25 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
Peter, If you quote a literal with double quotes, the C compiler automatically null-terminates the string for you. Therefore, mqm results in a 4-character array of 'm', 'q', 'm', '\0'. The single-quotes denote a character constant which is a single character and not automatically

Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up

2002-11-25 Thread Hill, Dave
Yes it will. If you do not see it in test then look at your initq. Dave -Original Message- From: MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Triggering when CKTI comes up If there are messages on a queue

Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up

2002-11-25 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
One of the times that the QM checks to see if a trigger message should be generated is when the INIT queue IPROCS count goes from 0 to 1. I would think that when CKT1 is brought up, it opens the INIT queue, and if no other app had the init queue open, the IPROCS would then go from 0 to 1. The

Re: AMQ9420

2002-11-25 Thread Chris Norville
Make sure you authorize yourself for the SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE for the cluster queue manager. This has bitten me a couple of times. Normally you would expect a 2035 back but I remember getting some weird error back and opening a PMR with IBM. The resolution was to set the authorities on

Re: Channel Status Codes

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Broderick
Thatnk John. What manual did you find them in? bobbee From: John Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Channel Status Codes Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:04:53 - My list gives me: 0 INACTIVE 1

Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up

2002-11-25 Thread DiLauro, Nick
One of the prerequisites for trigging is that a trigger monitor must have the initiation queue open for input. This is likely the reason. -Original Message- From: MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Broderick
Unless IBM changed things and I may be mistaken, I have been away from OS390 for a year and a half so the finer details are getting fuzzy. When you restart a CICS Trigger Monitor the triggers get fired again. Anybody else bobbee From: MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE

Re: channel security exit

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Killian
Thanks Steve and Peter. I used the strcpy and bang! it worked. Tomorrow, I start playing with the code to see what I can control (secure). _ Regards, Dick Killian MQ Administrator Adabas DBA Rochester Gas Electric Corp (585) 771-6049 GIES,

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Steely
It that CSQX with a space then START or all 1 word? Is there anything that I need to do to get CSQXSTART setup? I can't find this in my manuals. Thank You [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 02:42PM Mark, I assume that it's not something as simple as remembering to turn on the triggering? We're

Re: Dead Letter Queue handler

2002-11-25 Thread nushin mehran
If you down load and install supportpac MA10 for ISPF, it comes with deadletter queue option. try this site : http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ts/mqseries/txppacs/ma10.html --- Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are OS/390 v2.8 and MQ Series V2.1. Does any one have a dead letter queue

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Steely
The person setting this up was copying an old definition that never worked. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 02:30PM Was that a typo for the APPLICID ? Ours have: Application ID : CSQX START. The command Ref manulal says that's what it should be for distributed queueing without CICS. Richard.

Re: Channel Status Codes

2002-11-25 Thread Stefan Sievert
Bobbeee, take a look at the include file cmqcfc.h: /* Channel Status */ #define MQCHS_INACTIVE 0L #define MQCHS_BINDING 1L #define MQCHS_STARTING 2L #define MQCHS_RUNNING 3L #define MQCHS_STOPPING 4L #define MQCHS_RETRYING 5L #define MQCHS_STOPPED 6L #define

Webshere Integrator V2.1 - how do I tell what database a broker is attached to...

2002-11-25 Thread Dennis Bryngelson
1) We are running V2.1 broker on Solaris8. How do I tell what database a broker is attached to and what the database userid was set to AFTER an mqsicreatebroker has been done? 2) Is the database that is accessed in a compute the same database that is set in the mqsicreatebroker command -n

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Stefan Sievert
Mark, it is CSQX START (with a blank). For reference to documentation, please take a look at the MQSeries Command Reference http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ts/mqseries/library/manualsa/csqzaj/csqzaj0y.htm and scroll down to the description of the APPLICID parameter. Hope that helps, Stefan From:

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Fred Oddo
CSQX (space) START Fred Oddo Securities Industry Automation Corporation CICS / MQ Systems Programmer (212) 383 4087 Mark Steely Mark.Steely@WNTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CO.COMcc: Sent by:

Re: Channel Status Codes

2002-11-25 Thread Malamud, Mikhail
Bob - these codes and codes for channel types can be found in java pcf support pack manual. I was just looking them up myself couple days ago. Those codes are actually supported by qpasa, so you can use them for event monitoring definitions. Mikhail.

Re: Dead Letter Queue handler

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Steely
We have MA10 pac and it only allows you to delete the messages. We would like to re-load the messages. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 03:45PM If you down load and install supportpac MA10 for ISPF, it comes with deadletter queue option. try this site :

Re: Channel Initiation on OS/390.

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Steely
Thank for all your responses. The process def was in error. Thank You [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 02:42PM Mark, I assume that it's not something as simple as remembering to turn on the triggering? We're running V5.2, but I don't think that should make a difference on this. On our initiated

Re: Multi CPU box for MQSI

2002-11-25 Thread Tim Armstrong
As far as I know you cant set processor affinity under NT however you can set priorities for processes and tasks. You may want to try setting you MQ processes with a higher priority than MQSI(WMQI). After all it is WMQ that is servicing WMQI and as such you want it receiving priority. Regards Tim

Re: Mistery: 2043 - MQRC-OBJECT-TYPE-ERROR

2002-11-25 Thread Heinz Klein
Srivathsa. Thank you for your reply, but I am afraid this is not the right track: as I said, everything works if I do not specify a message length in the Get. Unless I learn that the addition of this parameter leads to another queue being opened (which seems to be the case but I cannot

Re: Am I asking too much to MQ?!?! (PROTOm@il:200211221113 CENTROSIM) -- Attachment History Removed

2002-11-25 Thread Tim Armstrong
I agree with the blocking concept. However for your current problem if you are using circular logging you are probably running out of log file space so I'd suggest you increase the number of log files you are using. The other parameter you may encounter trouble with is MAXUMSGS i.e. the number of

Re: Priority

2002-11-25 Thread Tim Armstrong
Simple way to look at it. MQ provides services to CICS so if CICS is running at a higher priority then it keep pre-empting its service provider. Regards Tim A

amqiclen

2002-11-25 Thread Chan, Ian M
Hi Listers, I got the amq6004 problem in the SUN box this morning which caused the queue manager cannot be brought up. This is the second time it happened on that box this year and thanks for those who showed me the amqiclen command recently on the list. This time I don't have to issue ipcs and

Re: Sizing a Sun Server for MQ

2002-11-25 Thread Tim Armstrong
The messages themselves may not be persistent but I'm guessing that the receiving application does something with all that data, thus whilst MQ may be able to manage them in memory there will still be a significant I/O requirement by the app. Regards Tim A Malamud,

Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up

2002-11-25 Thread Chan, Ian M
I think it also depends on the trigger interval. Once the CKTI is up and running, the trigger message will be generated within the trigger interval period. Ian -Original Message- From: Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: Channel Status Codes

2002-11-25 Thread Chan, Ian M
Someone also put some useful MQ documents in Palm format including that channel status below, reason code, etc. If you have a Palm, it's quite handy and worth for download. See http://www.qvadis.com/exlibris/library-computers.html ** I've never verified the correctness but the reason code I've

Re: amqiclen

2002-11-25 Thread Malamud, Mikhail
What options do you use for endmqm command? -Original Message- From: Chan, Ian M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/25/2002 7:31 PM Subject: amqiclen Hi Listers, I got the amq6004 problem in the SUN box this morning which caused the queue manager cannot be brought up. This is the second

Re: amqiclen

2002-11-25 Thread Chan, Ian M
It's a normal shutdown (i.e. the default control shutdown). Actually the shutdown worked without problem. I can see the queue manager ended messsage in the message log. Ian -Original Message- From: Malamud, Mikhail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 1:12 PM To:

Re: amqiclen

2002-11-25 Thread Michael F Murphy/AZ/US/MQSolutions
The first thing that comes to mind is your queue manager is not completely shutdown and then you try to start a half shut down queue manager. This can happen if your script is not smart enough to deal with a slow or failed shutdown. Misbehaving apps or apps not designed to properly recognize the

Re: Sizing a Sun Server for MQ

2002-11-25 Thread Michael F Murphy/AZ/US/MQSolutions
A Sun Blade is a workstation so that is the first concern. These also come in various sizes, number of CPU, memory and so forth so this is really not enough information. You have to consider all the resources and application design to size your server. You 300,000 per hour is really nothing to an

Data conversion on OS/390 using MQSeries - MQPMO_CONVERT

2002-11-25 Thread Kevin Tobin
Is it correct to state that MQSeries 2.1 supports message conversion ( codepage conversion) on the MQGET i.e. supports MQPMO_CONVERT. I was under the impression that it did not or perhaps previous versions did not. Cheers! Kevin Kevin Tobin Senior IT Specialist IBM WebSphere Services Asia

Re: amqiclen

2002-11-25 Thread Chan, Ian M
We havea similar arrangement except we stop at -i step. Actually in the case happened this time, all the processes are ended and the shutdown took 1min 6 sec to complete. The queue manager was then brought up 15 minutes later by the script but failed with amq6004. When I got paged, I grep the

Re: amqiclen

2002-11-25 Thread Michael F Murphy/AZ/US/MQSolutions
amqiclen is the IPCS clean up. If you have this problem, it is usually caused by applications refusing to let go of the queue manager and that don't recognize when a queue manager is stopped. It can just happen too, but if you close the applications first before stopping the queue manager, you

Re: Data conversion on OS/390 using MQSeries - MQPMO_CONVERT

2002-11-25 Thread Michael F Murphy/AZ/US/MQSolutions
It supports MQGMO_CONVERT, but not MQPMO_CONVERT :) I know this was a typo, but just to be sure.. I know for sure that 2.1 supports it and if memory serves, so does 1.2, which is the oldest on OS/390 I have been exposed to. Mike Murphy Sr. Middleware Consultant MQ Solutions, LLC