Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-09 Thread Isaac Schlueter
Guys, be nice. Dennis is unusual, sure, but unusual isn't bad. We're all unusual in some way. I don't see anything sociopathic or trollish here, just a lot of excitement about a program he's writing, and perhaps a bit of naivety regarding the best ways to go about recruiting contributors.

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-09 Thread Karl
wise words, well phrased, kudos, being friendly doesn't cost anything El martes, 9 de octubre de 2012 18:06:00 UTC+2, Isaac Schlueter escribió: Guys, be nice. Dennis is unusual, sure, but unusual isn't bad. We're all unusual in some way. I don't see anything sociopathic or trollish here,

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Hahn
I said much the same as you have here and got a gnarly chastising. I don't remember exactly what you said, or how I chastised you, but I do remember it was the words used, not the message. I was on a curmudgeon role that day. I chastised someone for calling another user a tard. I couldn't

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-09 Thread Adam Crabtree
FWIW, it's been done multiple times before. http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/30/synacor-ipo-carbyn/ Carbyn was a real startup that had a lot of the features I've seen mentioned here and was very well executed on IMHO, not to mention the upcoming Firefox OS, webOS, and various others in the past. I

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-09 Thread Stewart Mckinney
May I say, I endorse Mark Hahn for nice-police, 2012. Also , much agreed with what Issacs said w.r.t talk less, code and show more. If you don't want to show us all of your code, why not talk about some of the general concepts in a few blog posts, or create a contrived example that sort of

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-08 Thread Stephen Handley
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Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-08 Thread Dennis Kane
Why do you want the code so bad? It's not like there's any kind of fancy algorithms at work. There are many many open source windowing packages out there. It's not exactly rocket science, this. It's all been done many times before. The only difference is that this one is *my* baby!

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-08 Thread Rick Waldron
Is it possible to have this address banned? -Rick On Monday, October 8, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Dennis Kane wrote: Why do you want the code so bad? It's not like there's any kind of fancy algorithms at work. There are many many open source windowing packages out there. It's not exactly

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-08 Thread Sotonin
+1 for this On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to have this address banned? -Rick On Monday, October 8, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Dennis Kane wrote: Why do you want the code so bad? It's not like there's any kind of fancy algorithms at

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-08 Thread Rick Waldron
Funny thing, I said much the same as you have here and got a gnarly chastising. -Rick On Monday, October 8, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Joshua Gross wrote: Dennis, this is a developer forum. If you want to peddle your software and aren't willing to show something besides videos, you're in the

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-05 Thread Dennis Kane
See the newest features here-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_2DwueGLM The current version of the program now includes drag and drop functionality of text files from the native desktop straight into the browser desktop or (any of the subfolders). The difference between my drag and drop and

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-05 Thread Sotonin
Code post it else Zzzz On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Dennis Kane dkan...@gmail.com wrote: See the newest features here-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_2DwueGLM The current version of the program now includes drag and drop functionality of text files from the native desktop

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-02 Thread Dennis Kane
I hope you are all aware that I fully expect the reception that I have gotten here. The accusations of mental illness and trollishness are fully expected. The only problem is that I have a real life outside of professional programming circles. I know what it takes to make real things happen

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-02 Thread Sotonin
This guy has future serial killer written all over him. Sociopath much? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dennis Kane dkan...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you are all aware that I fully expect the reception that I have gotten here. The accusations of mental illness and trollishness are fully

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-02 Thread Mark Hahn
Lay off. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Sotonin soto...@gmail.com wrote: This guy has future serial killer written all over him. Sociopath much? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dennis Kane dkan...@gmail.com wrote: I hope you are all aware that I fully expect the reception that I have

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-01 Thread Dennis Kane
Respectfully, I am not the typical poster here. I am a revolutionary and a trailblazer, and everything I do is geared for maximum effect. I have precisely zero interest in working for paychecks or even creating something for the purpose of selling out to a corporation. I am interested in

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-10-01 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
I'd suggest lithium. But he probably won't take it voluntarily while he's having so much fun. GrpZ -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Dennis Kane
My most recent work can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0 I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a working Trashcan. I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this I am really eager to get together with programmers who want to get

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, Dennis Kane dkan...@gmail.com wrote: My most recent work can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0 I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a working Trashcan. I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this I am

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Mark Hahn
I know that this is a popular thing to do, but I don't understand it. Why would you want to put a metaphor that dates from 30 years ago on a modern brower? I find the hyperlinked documents on the web with responsive web pages to be a better experience. Google is working hard to replace the old

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
@Rick please don't speak for most, speak for your self. If you have no interest then don't comment. Large ideas come from small ideas, I would hate to think that something I might say could have been short sighted may ruin the chances of something good happening coming out of someones effort.

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
The point I think he is making is that some derivative of a familiar metaphor will help people grab on to the functionality or feel more at home. This ia also to say that from this may come something interesting after iteration(x) that is created. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Hahn

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Mark Hahn
This is also to say that from this may come something interesting That would be great and I certainly don't want to dampen any enthusiasm. I'm just giving my opinion as a potential user. To journey to a great new place, it would seem to be easier to start from somewhere modern instead of

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a practical way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit harsh and I was already annoyed. I have never found negative comments to be helpful, I also don't assume that I can see the direction that something will take.

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Gerald Klein wrote: @Rick please don't speak for most, speak for your self. If you have no interest then don't comment. Large ideas come from small ideas, I would hate to think that something I might say could have been short sighted may ruin

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
Call it soap boxing what ever you like, but when you say I think I speak for most when I say I have a problem, because you don't. Further the line about show us some code was not what I was talking about, it was the lines prior to that. you've given us nothing to be interested in, aside from a few

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Gerald Klein wrote: I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a practical way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit harsh and I was already annoyed. I wasn't being negative, I was identifying exactly

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Mark Hahn
I have never found negative comments to be helpful, I respectfully disagree. Informed opinions should be welcome here. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gerald Klein j...@zognet.com wrote: I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a practical way. Accept my apologies

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
I agree but there is a way of presenting them, further if you have a negative I would assume you must have a positive to supplant it. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mark Hahn m...@hahnca.com wrote: I have never found negative comments to be helpful, I respectfully disagree. Informed

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Gerald Klein wrote: Call it soap boxing what ever you like, but when you say I think I speak for most when I say I have a problem, because you don't. Further the line about show us some code was not what I was talking about, it was the lines prior

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: I have never found negative comments to be helpful, I respectfully disagree. Informed opinions should be welcome here. +1 Informed and critical opinions are necessary for broader growth On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM,

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
a thread of rants making deluded claims Here we go negative again, a thread of rants making deluded claims you just love to hear yourself talk don't you. I didn't respond to your last post because you started to make reasonable representation of your case, let it go. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:06

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
The term constructive criticism which is always welcome innately suggests that there is a better alternative idea or path that could be taken. Now logic would also suggest that the person making this criticism have at least an inkling of what that might be. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Rick

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Mark Hahn
there is a way of presenting them Yes. Civility is to be expected. if you have a negative I would assume you must have a positive to supplant it. Huh? I have what I have. This isn't a debate, it's just me giving my opinion. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Gerald Klein j...@zognet.com

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
Once again Mark my responses have not been about you, you have acquitted your self as quite reasonable. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Mark Hahn m...@hahnca.com wrote: there is a way of presenting them Yes. Civility is to be expected. if you have a negative I would assume you must

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Gerald Klein wrote: a thread of rants making deluded claims Here we go negative again, a thread of rants making deluded claims you just love to hear yourself talk don't you. I didn't respond to your last post because you started to make

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
If that it was you feel about this thread you know the subject line, give it a pass instead of wasting time talking about something that you have stated does not interest you. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM,

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Rick Waldron
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Gerald Klein wrote: The term constructive criticism which is always welcome innately suggests that there is a better alternative idea or path that could be taken. Now logic would also suggest that the person making this criticism have at least an

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Gerald Klein
Yes that IS much better, thank you for clearing that up and I am sure OP will respond to that in a more positive fashion. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Sunday, September 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Gerald Klein wrote: The term constructive criticism

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Sotonin
I've kept quiet on this thread to see how it plays out. I was waiting for the OP to finally post something similar to Why is everybody ignoring me why isn't there any interest?. Now that it's happened, here's my 2 cents. While I admit It looks neat from the YouTube video, It's just a gimmick.

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Stewart Mckinney
That's pretty much my take. It's nice to see he is enthusiastic about his endeavors, and I wish him the best of luck, but for me if you are not going to show me any code, why are you posting it in this forum? On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Sotonin soto...@gmail.com wrote: I've kept quiet on

Re: [nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread Baz
I really like Chrome's create application shortcut feature. It lets you treat a website more like an application, by giving it it's own taskbar item (win7), branded icon, separate context (i.e. you can be logged into 2 different gmail accounts in separate app instances - unlike with tabs), and

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-30 Thread cayasso
I think Denis reminded us (or me at least) what the browser can do and what is possible, I think taking it to the next level would be to show both worlds web like and desktop like but working together (how would that interface be?) for a better user experience, better usability,etc, its all

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-28 Thread Dennis Kane
Cool! When I scrolled down to the section called The Central Role of Language, I realized that the anti-mac concept was something I could work with. I am a believer in the concept of leveraging Javascript in order to devise a kind of higher level computing language that can deal very well in

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-27 Thread Dennis Kane
Well, I think that we can all agree that the idea of a purely portable desktop environment is a highly compelling one, and that there are many ways to approach the problem. There is, of course, the VNC approach, wherein all of our actions are transmitted over the wire in order to control a

[nodejs] Re: Evil OS X... the perfect client to a node server!

2012-09-27 Thread P. Douglas Reeder
One mashup to rule them all? That's a tall order. If you're looking to supplant the WIMP paradigm, you should be familiar with The Anti-Mac Interface (really a post-Macintosh UI): http://www.useit.com/papers/anti-mac.html -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: