Re: [opensc-devel] Changed certificate on opensc-project.org

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear Martin, opensc-project.org SSL certificate expired (kind of suddenly, there should have been a reminder but that did not arrive for some reason), the checksums of the new one are: MD5: 68786c3e0cfe44e31d6c789e767605d5 SHA1: d7af30e8dfd9b6433353999f24e5dbb74132a988 Nice to see you on

Re: [opensc-devel] GlobalPlatform and OpenSC

2012-03-23 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
2012/3/22 Anders Rundgren anders.rundg...@telia.com Somewhat related to the OpenSC organization discussions: http://www.globalplatform.org/documents/Consumer_Centric_Model_White_PaperMar2012.pdf I must confess I don't understand a thing of this, neither the business model, the consumer

[opensc-devel] PINDAD fix

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear all, Here is outlined a PINPAD fix (read second comment): http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=2247688aid=3489002group_id=553887 I would like to know your opinion about the proposed solution. Kind regards, -- Jean-Michel Pouré - Gooze - http://www.gooze.eu

Re: [opensc-devel] Changed certificate on opensc-project.org

2012-03-23 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Jean-Michel, Le 23 mars 2012 08:58, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE jmpo...@gooze.eu a écrit : Dear Martin, opensc-project.org SSL certificate expired (kind of suddenly, there should have been a reminder but that did not arrive for some reason), the checksums of the new one are: MD5:

Re: [opensc-devel] Changed certificate on opensc-project.org

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear Ludovic and all, You have to understand that free software projects (in a large part) are do-ocracy and not democracy. The people doing things decide how they do it. If you want to get a commit write access you shall first provide good patches and work. It does not work in the reverse

Re: [opensc-devel] Changed certificate on opensc-project.org

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
What exactly are you trying to achieve? Dear Emanuelle, In the past, main OpenSC developers used to have write access to the main trunk or at least to their development. This is no longer the case. The new collaboration tools like GIT are used to limit the power of the main developers. Over

Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC and gerrit

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello, On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 13:08, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE jmpo...@gooze.eu wrote: OpenSC copyright belongs to the group of people who wrote OpenSC, which is all of us. It does not belong to any company and an individual granting rights to other individuals. In legal terms, *copyright*

[opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 13:19 +0200, Martin Paljak a écrit : In legal terms, *copyright* on OpenSC belongs to the authors who have contributed code, and/or marked it down in source code. The fact that other, unknown persons (not established in source code as copyright owners) have code in

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
Simple End User Joe here, A suggestion for all concerned: Please try to forget personal differences, and solve the problem ahead. You are all very bright, you do awesome work, we all endlessly admire you and thank you for all you have achieved so far. But. For me it seems that there IS a problem

Re: [opensc-devel] Changed certificate on opensc-project.org

2012-03-23 Thread Emanuele Pucciarelli
2012/3/23 Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE jmpo...@gooze.eu: In the past, main OpenSC developers used to have write access to the main trunk or at least to their development. Even minor ones, such as myself. This is no longer the case. The new collaboration tools like GIT are used to limit the

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Anders Rundgren
Although OpenSC may be in a bit of s*** right now, that's a gentle breeze compared to what is happening in the outside world. There will be a war between a set of very divided European SC-vendors against three gaint US corportations who are rolling out virtual smart cards like:

Re: [opensc-devel] Changed certificate on opensc-project.org

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear Emanuele, Please understand that nobody needs to be a committer in order to be a reviewer. Anyone can be a reviewer, and Gerrit is meant to make that easier. Sure. If all developers had the ability to vote on Gerrit and apply patches, this would solve many problems. Is that the case

Re: [opensc-devel] Getting lost compiling OpenSC and tokend for Mac OS X 10.7

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear Martin, Last time I checked, it worked flawlessly on fresh/clean 10.6 with the given instructions. You are right, this is better than my way compiling by hand. We installed a dedicated Mac OS X station for Jenkins and I just switched back from 10.7 to 10.6 (Snow Leopard). This should

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello, On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 15:17, Magosányi, Árpád m4g...@gmail.com wrote: And you simultaneously don't have enough time to review patches. Both are correct and understandable. And there is a way out of this situation. Require assurance of the stuff is working before even taking a look at

Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC and gerrit

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello, On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 00:30, Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com wrote: - replication in gerrit do not working. Should we manually push the perfect commits from gerrit's repo to staging? (In the github's pull requests the commits are also perfects, almost perfect.) Fetching github

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
Hi, On 03/23/2012 05:48 PM, Martin Paljak wrote: The trick is having a system that works and also helps to achieve the target of having more people *actually* looking at code and some testing (like automatic building) done before even considering ack-ing something. But lagging on processing

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Magosányi, Árpád wrote: 6 months worth of patches which cannot be reviewed This is simply not true. *Anyone* can register on Gerrit and review, and *all* review is a helpful contribution! The problem is not that the code can not be reviewed, but that noone is doing review. Anyone can do it.

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
On 03/23/2012 07:10 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: Magosányi, Árpád wrote: 6 months worth of patches which cannot be reviewed This is simply not true. *Anyone* can register on Gerrit and review, and *all* review is a helpful contribution! The problem is not that the code can not be reviewed, but

Re: [opensc-devel] Upgrading aPass2003 Firmware to PIV

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello, On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 16:46, Douglas E. Engert deeng...@anl.gov wrote: It does not define a load key or any finalize commands which would be needed by a production card management system. I don't know about PIV internals, but maybe the finalize step is automatic or not needed at all

Re: [opensc-devel] Upgrading aPass2003 Firmware to PIV

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello Anders, On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 19:40, Anders Rundgren anders.rundg...@telia.com wrote: I have played with the idea of creating a secure stack-machine for performing arbitrary cryptographic operations on result-data but I couldn't figure out how this would work without introducing

Re: [opensc-devel] PINDAD fix

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:44, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE jmpo...@gooze.eu wrote: Here is outlined a PINPAD fix (read second comment): http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=2247688aid=3489002group_id=553887 I would like to know your opinion about the proposed solution. The comment

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas E. Engert
On 3/23/2012 11:48 AM, Martin Paljak wrote: Hello, On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 15:17, Magosányi, Árpádm4g...@gmail.com wrote: And you simultaneously don't have enough time to review patches. Both are correct and understandable. And there is a way out of this situation. Require assurance of

Re: [opensc-devel] Upgrading aPass2003 Firmware to PIV

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas E. Engert
On 3/23/2012 2:59 PM, Martin Paljak wrote: Hello, On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 16:46, Douglas E. Engertdeeng...@anl.gov wrote: It does not define a load key or any finalize commands which would be needed by a production card management system. Martin, You really are catching up on your mail!

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Martin Paljak
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 22:16, Douglas E. Engert deeng...@anl.gov wrote:  ECDH/C_Derive - One needs a smart card that can do ECC key derivation.        I have some test cards and some demo cards from NIST that can do this,        The NIST people were using the mods for testing with thunderbird,

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
On 03/23/2012 09:16 PM, Douglas E. Engert wrote: Another issues with this project is many of the modifications can only be tested by a subset of developers (maybe only one) who have the cards that can use the modification. I am more optimistic than that. If it is made clear that the patch

[opensc-devel] gerrit - howto?

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
I have registered to gerrit, because saying stuff is one thing, doing it is another. I guess I am supposed to verify and/or review. Which is what, and how? I have choosen Change I1e6f787d to experiment with, which is a nice oneliner. Some guy have changed an email address in a comment to his own.

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas E. Engert
On 3/23/2012 3:29 PM, Martin Paljak wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 22:16, Douglas E. Engertdeeng...@anl.gov wrote: ECDH/C_Derive - One needs a smart card that can do ECC key derivation. I have some test cards and some demo cards from NIST that can do this, The NIST people

Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC and gerrit

2012-03-23 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Martin, Le 23 mars 2012 18:17, Martin Paljak mar...@martinpaljak.net a écrit : Hello, On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 00:30, Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com wrote: - replication in gerrit do not working. Should we manually push the perfect commits from gerrit's repo to staging? (In the

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear all, SM - I don't have any cards that can use this, others may. ePass2300 - GOOZE was willing to sending them out to developers, I don't know how many may have them, and if they do have they voted? It worked for me and I voted +1. (I think I voted.) We really welcome

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Dear Douglas, What this means is that you are not going to get many votes because in some cases only the author can test the code. A +1 from the author may be the most you will get! If we look at GIThub, there is a limited numbers of OpenSC forks, which means a relatively small workforce.

Re: [opensc-devel] gerrit - howto?

2012-03-23 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Hello, Le 23 mars 2012 21:53, Magosányi, Árpád m4g...@gmail.com a écrit : I have registered to gerrit, because saying stuff is one thing, doing it is another. I guess I am supposed to verify and/or review. Which is what, and how? I have choosen Change I1e6f787d to experiment with, which is a

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread NdK
On 23/03/2012 19:10, Peter Stuge wrote: The problem is not that the code can not be reviewed, but that noone is doing review. Anyone can do it. I'd do reviews, but the last time I tried to really understand OpenSC's flow, all I got was an headache (a big one...) :( So it's not a will issue,

Re: [opensc-devel] Ownership issue and consequences on OpenSC project

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
On 03/23/2012 11:10 PM, NdK wrote: I'd do reviews, but the last time I tried to really understand OpenSC's flow, all I got was an headache (a big one...) :( So it's not a will issue, it's more an understandig issue. At least for me. And I'd really like to be able to help, but it seems only a

[opensc-devel] patch quality standards?

2012-03-23 Thread Magosányi, Árpád
Looking at https://www.opensc-project.org/codereview/#/c/150/ , which is a patch which is overwritten by a later patch in gerrit, I started to wonder again about quality standards. And this: http://lwn.net/Articles/328438/ And there should be others. This is what I have gathered so far: -