Martin,
Le 23 mars 2012 18:17, Martin Paljak a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 00:30, Viktor Tarasov
> wrote:
>> - replication in gerrit do not working.
>> Should we manually push the perfect commits from gerrit's repo to staging?
>> (In the github's pull requests the commits are a
Hello,
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 00:30, Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> - replication in gerrit do not working.
> Should we manually push the perfect commits from gerrit's repo to staging?
> (In the github's pull requests the commits are also perfects, almost perfect.)
Fetching github
Fetching gerrit
Fetch
Hello,
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 13:08, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
wrote:
> OpenSC copyright belongs to the group of people who wrote OpenSC,
> which is all of us. It does not belong to any company and an individual
> granting rights to other individuals.
In legal terms, *copyright* on OpenSC belon
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
>> progress much faster, even in the price of committing not-the-best
>> solutions,
> Do you find this a desirable quality for a security-related project?
I don't think that this thread was about a balance of quality against
quantity. The issu
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>> I will try again.
>
> Thanks! It really helps!
I am glad!
Well, let's agree we do not agree... :)
At no point in time I argue that the gerrit is not a good tool, I
argue the methodology.
Anyway, just last note I want t
Le mercredi 21 mars 2012 à 23:54 +0100, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> I find that quite offensive. Why don't you focus on the code?
At present I focus on building a farm compiling packages. 10 days x 10
hours a day to set-up the hardware and software and this is far from
complete.
I admit to use sarcas
Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote:
> > Please understand that whatever you try to organize democratically
> > will indeed be a fork. Open source is not democracy.
>
> Peter, you are shooting yourself a bullet in the foot.
This isn't about me.
> As written before, some people really believe to o
Le mercredi 21 mars 2012 à 23:03 +0100, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Thanks for taking the time! It really helped understand what you
> mean!
Peter, what I read in your previous post, you seem to be too picky.
IMHO, quality is a circle: you write code, ask for review, commit a
first version, ask for
Le mercredi 21 mars 2012 à 23:04 +0100, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Please understand that whatever you try to organize democratically
> will indeed be a fork. Open source is not democracy.
Peter, you are shooting yourself a bullet in the foot.
As written before, some people really believe to own O
Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote:
> > Jean-Michel, as I've said already, please stop the noise and go fork
> > if that is what you want! I promise I'll stay far away.
>
> We don't want to fork, this would be stupid.
Please understand that whatever you try to organize democratically
will indeed be
Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> I will try again.
Thanks! It really helps!
> > > The bureaucracy and lack of flexibility will inhibit contributions
> > > and healthy *SMALL* community.
> >
> > What bureaucracy do you mean? Requiring no build failure and review
> > in gerrit? I think those are acceptable r
Le mercredi 21 mars 2012 à 22:19 +0100, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Jean-Michel, as I've said already, please stop the noise and go fork
> if that is what you want! I promise I'll stay far away.
We don't want to fork, this would be stupid. Viktor and Alon wrote
interesting text, I don't want to add a
Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote:
> Unless you agree that by writing on the mailing list, we are going
> to incorporate an association.
Jean-Michel, as I've said already, please stop the noise and go fork
if that is what you want! I promise I'll stay far away.
//Peter
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Le mercredi 21 mars 2012 à 09:21 -0500, Douglas E. Engert a écrit :
> Before we incorporate, I have a few questions and comments:
> What other open source projects have uses this French loi law?
> Has this helped or hindered their project?
Video Lan for example, the editor of VLC:
http://www.
On 3/21/2012 5:32 AM, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>> OK. What do you propose?
>
> I propose to incorporate OpenSC as a French association under the loi
> 1901 law, under a general agreement. There are millions of associations
> in France and the government provides a generic pa
Dear all,
> OK. What do you propose?
I propose to incorporate OpenSC as a French association under the loi
1901 law, under a general agreement. There are millions of associations
in France and the government provides a generic paper for incorporation.
I propose to use this paper without modificat
Le 20 mars 2012 22:03, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE a écrit :
> Martin and Ludovic, can you open the door to a real collaboration and
> allow more core developers? As OpenSC is a small community I think it is
> preferable to come back to the old organization when the community was
> driving itself.
Le mardi 20 mars 2012 à 22:16 +0200, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit :
>
> I think that core developers (and I am not arguing I am one of them)
> should have free access to repository, allowing them to progress the
> fastest they can, we (the community) should trust them to fix whatever
> issue they may caus
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:17 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
>
> Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > I think you are trying to make opensc something it is not.
>
> I am not trying to do a single thing beyond pointing out that there
> is alot of complaints and wasted time over no *actual* problem.
First I want to writ
Hello,
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 23:01, Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> Gerrit still has replication problem -- 'staging' of OpenSC/OpenSC.git do not
> updated by merges of Gerrit's repository.
> Certainly, gerrit is nice tool to play with, but, without replication it
> looses much of it's utility.
This
The message was sent before it was written. Correcting it:
Dear Peter,
> > The bureaucracy and lack of flexibility will inhibit contributions
> > and healthy *SMALL* community.
>
> What bureaucracy do you mean? Requiring no build failure and review
> in gerrit? I think those are acceptable
Dear Peter,
> > The bureaucracy and lack of flexibility will inhibit contributions
> > and healthy *SMALL* community.
>
> What bureaucracy do you mean? Requiring no build failure and review
> in gerrit? I think those are acceptable requirements. They're also
> not exactly unique for OpenSC.
Come
Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> I think you are trying to make opensc something it is not.
I am not trying to do a single thing beyond pointing out that there
is alot of complaints and wasted time over no *actual* problem.
> The bureaucracy and lack of flexibility will inhibit contributions
> and healthy
Hello Peter,
I wrote this before, but I think I need to write again...
I think you are trying to make opensc something it is not.
The bureaucracy and lack of flexibility will inhibit contributions and
healthy *SMALL* community.
That's true that it may eventually lead to more stable implementation,
Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> > What is it that does not currently work and which is
> > critical for developing perfect commits?
..
> - replication in gerrit
If you mean the mirroring of commits to github.com I don't see how
that is critical. Work with the repo in gerrit instead. Many projects
have no
Le 17/03/2012 22:32, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Viktor Tarasov wrote:
>> Could you explain here how can we 'move forward', preferably
>> without appealing to the absent persons and to the non-working
>> services?
> No, a "move forward" idea is broken from the start.
>
> Be specific. What is it that do
Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> Could you explain here how can we 'move forward', preferably
> without appealing to the absent persons and to the non-working
> services?
No, a "move forward" idea is broken from the start.
Be specific. What is it that does not currently work and which is
critical for deve
Le 17/03/2012 22:03, Peter Stuge a écrit :
> Viktor Tarasov wrote:
>> I still propose to temporarily use the alternatives jenkins & gerrit.
> It's IMO really stupid to fork anything, regardless if it is code or
> infrastructure.
You are amazedly brief.
Could you explain here how can we 'move forw
Viktor Tarasov wrote:
> I still propose to temporarily use the alternatives jenkins & gerrit.
It's IMO really stupid to fork anything, regardless if it is code or
infrastructure.
//Peter
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Le 17/03/2012 19:13, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE a écrit :
> Le vendredi 16 mars 2012 à 23:36 +0100, Ludovic Rousseau a écrit :
>> I finally succeeded in rebasing and approving some patched in the
>> backlog. I still do not understand everything. I subscribed to the
>> OpenSC project on gerrit so I s
Le vendredi 16 mars 2012 à 23:36 +0100, Ludovic Rousseau a écrit :
> I finally succeeded in rebasing and approving some patched in the
> backlog. I still do not understand everything. I subscribed to the
> OpenSC project on gerrit so I should receive a email for any submitted
> patch.
>
> I also a
Hello,
I finally succeeded in rebasing and approving some patched in the
backlog. I still do not understand everything. I subscribed to the
OpenSC project on gerrit so I should receive a email for any submitted
patch.
I also added Viktor Tarasov as a member of the Integrators group.
Viktor, you s
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