Re: [osol-discuss] How to decrease the Brightness in SXDE? Or my eyesights will be hurte

2008-02-05 Thread kkk
Most notebooks do this through soft keys, check your keyboard. Ether that, or it's running in a low power mode. My notebook has the softkeys, but they don't work under the solaris os only. And whether it's running in a low power mode seems not important at all. Anyone has the same

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Casper . Dik
/bin/sh is something different, it is not a Korn Shell but a Bourne S= hell. And it cannoit really be made compatible without breaking ksh. (And while we can fix our scripts to work fine with ksh/ksh93, customer scripts breakage will be different) Casper

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 4, 2008 11:40 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone at Sun is interested to take the current code, he is welcome! I am currently working on fixing bugs in sh and making it portable

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.6.1 ready

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither Linux nor WinXP/Vista write UFS or ZFS. WinXP/Vista does not support to read Rock Ridge at all Linux does not support hard links with Rock Ridge The only choice you have is Solaris ;-) Actually, there is a Windows Resource kit for

Re: [osol-discuss] on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Derek Cicero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This link: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ seems to have disappeared since the dlc came back up. We're looking into it. We now have the state from December 4th. Do you know where to get the last two months from? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which brings us to Solaris. Can Solaris provide integrated, cohesive kernel and true unix userland in a stable and well performing package that is freely available, and hence able to compete on it's own technical merits with the freely available *BSD's

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I wish that there were better options than GNU userland in terms of functionality, the reality is that the majority of the open source world has chosen the GNU toolset, for better or worse, as their toolset of choice. There is of course a better

Re: [osol-discuss] on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Rocky
Derek Cicero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This link: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ seems to have disappeared since the dlc came back up. We're looking into it. We now have the state from December 4th. Do you know where to get the last two months from? Jörg I'm

Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS performance issues on filesystem which *used* to have large numbe

2008-02-05 Thread Mike DeMarco
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Re: [osol-discuss] on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Derek Cicero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This link: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ seems to have disappeared since the dlc came back up. We're looking into it. We now have the state from December 4th. Do you know where to get the

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling writes: I am in fear that Solaris cannot In the past years, Solaris stability rules have not been followed as usual and it seems this has been done because of lack of payed time inside Sun. Please stop passing around FUD.

Re: [osol-discuss] on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Feb 5, 2008 4:20 PM, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Anyone got a copy of in-test-199.iso that I can mirror on genunix.org? [the in-test-199.iso.torrent link is MIA and I'd rather just get a copy of the iso file than mess with bittorrent] I've downloaded mine from

[osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 8:31 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, I understand that in the linux world 'DBUS' and 'HAL' have come from the same (or closely connected) community that GNOME comes from. So I don't see a problem with the GNOME team at sun being responsible for

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 4:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /bin/sh is something different, it is not a Korn Shell but a Bourne S= hell. And it cannoit really be made compatible without breaking ksh. (And while we can fix our scripts to work fine with

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread UNIX admin
It just so happens that GNU/Linux is one of those platforms from which certain evaluations are drawn. Yeah well, I can tell you that it would have been much more useful to draw from operating systems which got things right, like HP-UX, and IRIX in particular! Even FreeBSD has features that

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread ken mays
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:49:04 -0600 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 4, 2008 7:30 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:27:41 -0600 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 12:14 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 8:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 4:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /bin/sh is something different, it is not a Korn Shell but a Bourne S= hell. And it cannoit really be made compatible without breaking ksh. (And while we can fix our scripts to work

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 6:15 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I wish that there were better options than GNU userland in terms of functionality, the reality is that the majority of the open source world has chosen the GNU toolset, for better

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a plan to create complatibility to /bin/ksh which is based on ksh88. /bin/sh is something different, it is not a Korn Shell but a Bourne Shell. I know that; but the version we have is also very limited. I know Roland believes that ksh93

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: I still cannot understand why a Sun controlled login (via PAM) depends on Mozilla's /usr/lib/mps/libssl3.so but /usr/sbin/pkgadd depends on /usr/sfw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 This is the problem I'm more concerned about than including the 'Linux Suite' of software.

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Casper . Dik
On Feb 5, 2008 4:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /bin/sh is something different, it is not a Korn Shell but a Bourne S= hell. And it cannoit really be made compatible without breaking ksh. (And while we can fix our scripts to work fine with ksh/ksh93, customer scripts breakage will be

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 4:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /bin/sh is something different, it is not a Korn Shell but a Bourne S= hell. And it cannoit really be made compatible without breaking ksh. (And while we can fix our scripts to work fine with ksh/ksh93, customer scripts breakage will be

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Kyle McDonald wrote: Another example, is Xscreensaver. I always used to be able install that with only X11 installed. Now not only does GNOME have to be installed too, So does large portions of Evolution!! What on earth does Evolution have to do with a ScreenSaver? In order to support

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread UNIX admin
I'd be very surprised if someone rewrote history to declare Indiana the cause of the first OpenSolaris fork, given that we've already got Nexenta, Schillix, Belenix and Martux. Those aren't forks, since they sync up with the main OpenSolaris codebase on a regular basis. A fork is a

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Shawn Walker wrote: [...] But when the program that manages automatically mounting removable media was integrated and required these API's, libraries, and daemons, I think it should have been obvious to move them to some other more 'system level' package and not allowed to stay in large GNOME

[osol-discuss] Torrent - was Re: on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Sean Sprague
Al, [Snip!] [the in-test-199.iso.torrent link is MIA and I'd rather just get a copy of the iso file than mess with bittorrent] +1 - I don't think that anyone in their right mind would prefer a Torrent-based acquisition method for our ISO's... Regards... Sean.

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Moinak Ghosh wrote: Another example, is Xscreensaver. I always used to be able install that with only X11 installed. Now not only does GNOME have to be installed too, So does large portions of Evolution!! What on earth does Evolution have to do with a ScreenSaver? Again, that's a

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 9:37 AM, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very surprised if someone rewrote history to declare Indiana the cause of the first OpenSolaris fork, given that we've already got Nexenta, Schillix, Belenix and Martux. Those aren't forks, since they sync up with the

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 9:42 AM, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just so happens that GNU/Linux is one of those platforms from which certain evaluations are drawn. Yeah well, I can tell you that it would have been much more useful to draw from operating systems which got things right, like

Re: [osol-discuss] Torrent - was Re: on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 10:41 AM, Sean Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al, [Snip!] [the in-test-199.iso.torrent link is MIA and I'd rather just get a copy of the iso file than mess with bittorrent] +1 - I don't think that anyone in their right mind would prefer a Torrent-based acquisition

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, I understand that in the linux world 'DBUS' and 'HAL' have come from the same (or closely connected) community that GNOME comes from. So I don't see a problem with the GNOME team at sun being responsible for integrating them into

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 8:31 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, I understand that in the linux world 'DBUS' and 'HAL' have come from the same (or closely connected) community that GNOME comes from. So I don't see a problem with the GNOME

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 11:42 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 8:31 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, I understand that in the linux world 'DBUS' and 'HAL' have come from the same (or closely connected)

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is of course a better choice: foster the UNIX tools instead of merely leaving them alone for more than 10 years. The past cannot be changed Joerg. Arguing about the past is fruitless. If you like to define the future, you cannot ignore the past.

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: Good question, but I don't know. The problem I see with Xscreensaver is that it is installed suid root on SXCE and thus is unable to read ~/.Xauthority from NFS mounted home directories. Removing the suid root did fix the problem for me. And broke the ability for it to

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:08:02 -0600 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 9:37 AM, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very surprised if someone rewrote history to declare Indiana the cause of the first OpenSolaris fork, given that we've already got Nexenta,

Re: [osol-discuss] Torrent - was Re: on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Sean Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-05 16:41]: Al, [Snip!] [the in-test-199.iso.torrent link is MIA and I'd rather just get a copy of the iso file than mess with bittorrent] +1 - I don't think that anyone in their right mind would prefer a Torrent-based acquisition method for

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 12:26 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:08:02 -0600 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 9:37 AM, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very surprised if someone rewrote history to declare Indiana the cause of the

Re: [osol-discuss] Dual boot, disk partition scheme

2008-02-05 Thread Mike DeMarco
Hello! Finally, I managed to free some laptop for UX. I would like to install Solaris and Linux (Slackware) as dual boot. Laptop comes with 120 GB disk. I need some advice on the partition scheme. I have this so far: Solaris: 15GB boot 4GB swap 15GB

[osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 12:49 PM, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 12:44 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: Thus, I stand by the claim that Nexenta, at the very least, is a fork. You deeply mistaken here. As far as OpenSolaris is concerned - Nexenta is NOT a fork. We share the

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:08:40 -0600 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 9:42 AM, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just so happens that GNU/Linux is one of those platforms from which certain evaluations are drawn. Yeah well, I can tell you that it would have been

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 1:21 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:08:40 -0600 Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 9:42 AM, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just so happens that GNU/Linux is one of those platforms from which certain

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 1:14 PM, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:08 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 12:49 PM, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 12:44 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: Thus, I stand by the claim that Nexenta, at the

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 5, 2008 1:27 PM, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:26 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: ...and I never said that wasn't a good thing. I'm just pointing out that Nexenta is different. in a good, practical and positive way... :-) That I will whole-heartedly

Re: [osol-discuss] on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Derek Cicero
Al Hopper wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Derek Cicero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This link: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ seems to have disappeared since the dlc came back up. We're looking into it. We now have the state from December 4th. Do you know

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:08 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 12:49 PM, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 12:44 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: Thus, I stand by the claim that Nexenta, at the very least, is a fork. You deeply mistaken here. As far as

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: Another example, is Xscreensaver. I always used to be able install that with only X11 installed. Now not only does GNOME have to be installed too, So does large portions of Evolution!! What on earth does Evolution have to do with a ScreenSaver?

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] Test image for Preview 2

2008-02-05 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Stephen Hahn wrote: If you're watching any of the project aliases, you'll have seen a flurry of bugfixes go by in the past week or two. The various project teams have been making the various, coordinated corrections needed to assemble a second preview release of

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:26 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: ...and I never said that wasn't a good thing. I'm just pointing out that Nexenta is different. in a good, practical and positive way... :-) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
Moinak Ghosh wrote: BTW on a side note I just checked the dependencies here. SUNWhal and SUNWrmvolmgr depend on SUNWgnome-base-libs. SUNWgnome-base-libs != GNOME. Then why does it say 'gnome' in the name? How would someone new to Solaris know that it wasn't part of gnome? Why wouldn't

Re: [osol-discuss] Torrent - was Re: on/downloads/current/ is missing

2008-02-05 Thread Sean Sprague
Shawn, As was noted in the release announcement, the test image was released via torrent only on purpose. Ahh... missed that one. Apols. When the actualy preview2 image is posted, there will be other methods to get it available. Cool. Many thanks for the clarification. Regards...

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Keiser
On Feb 4, 2008 7:30 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Linux = GPL license. Linux kernel bundled into assorted distros with various GNU tools (Gnu's Not Unix, proclaimed loud and proud on their homepage) and disparate userlands, etc., the components of which are far

[osol-discuss] T1 processor

2008-02-05 Thread Victor Feng
It is a T2000 server with 8 cores. T1 processor does good for the system running process with multithreads. It seems to me that it can handle 1.5*number of core=1.5*8=12 processes with single thread. Is this formula correct for T1 processor? perl -e 'while (--$ARGV[0] and fork) {}; while ()

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:56:22 PST Tom Keiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 4, 2008 7:30 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Linux = GPL license. Linux kernel bundled into assorted distros with various GNU tools (Gnu's Not Unix, proclaimed loud and proud on their

Re: [osol-discuss] Test image for Preview 2 (fwd)

2008-02-05 Thread Al Hopper
... snip ... http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-test-199.iso.torrent ... snip Now available at http://www.genunix.org Clarification: the ISO image is available at http://www.genunix.org Regards, Al ___ opensolaris-discuss

[osol-discuss] on/downloads/current/ restored

2008-02-05 Thread Derek Cicero
It looks like: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ Has been restored, but I am still waiting for official notification that it's completely in sync. Derek -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division ___

[osol-discuss] pcn driver for Project Indiana and future OpenSolaris

2008-02-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
While trying to investigate one problem[1] I ran into another. Seemingly unrelated in every way other than the OS rev. titan pcn: [ID 298640 kern.info] NOTICE: pcn: rx ring broken? This machine is 32-bit and not at all modern. It has AMD PCNet ethernet NICs which seem to always get the very