Hi all,
how to change the login opensolaris.
please kindly share the step or link...
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Have these policies already gone into place, because I am still (crossing
fingers) getting security updates on my Solaris 10 box with no agreement. I
just got a new one today. Thanks!
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Good luck to us all!
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I really like the Porsche--minivan analogy. :-)
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I think that I read somewhere that Firefox 3.6 will be included in a branch
after 2010.03 is released but not before, because I think that 3.6.2 is about
to be released.
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This is indeed great news!
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Not sure if this is relevant but I have been still getting regular updates on
my x86 Solaris 10 install. I hope that it continues but every day I keep my
fingers crossed. I just downloaded and installed a security patch a few minutes
ago
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Try single user mode---It definitely helps
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Thanks for the update. I have 2 boxes running update now. Both have been in the
creating plan phase for about 60 minutes. I wasn't sure if they were stuck or
just renaming the files etc. Starting to get worried althoughI can hear the
hard drives working
One machine is running in a vm the
That is not good..Won't the machine just page to compensate, though?
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Do you think that it will continue and complete the update? My vm build is
still in creating plan phase but I can see/hear the hardrive reading and
writing and every once and a while I see the network icon flicker...
My notebook which was started earlier is doing the same...Neither is
Unfortunately my vm has already been running for quite some time at about only
1GB. I would have to stop the whole process to increase memory now.
My notebook is not running in vm and only has 1GB, but so far it is a pretty
miminal install, not much added beyond the basic build.
If these two
Well my machines have been running for about 4.5 hours in creating plan phase.
Unfortunately didn't read the post about single-user mode until after starting
the upgrade.
I guess if they don't succeed or I get an error message, tomorrow I will try
again in single user mode, Part of me wants to
When I try to go to that URL...DNS finds it ok and opens web page
I really want to upgrade this package
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no proxy configuration
wget -O /dev/stdout http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/versions/0
--10:20:55-- http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/versions/0
= `/dev/stdout'
Resolving pkg.opensolaris.org... 72.5.123.21
Connecting to pkg.opensolaris.org|72.5.123.21|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent,
Firewall.
Let me try the coomand:
pfexec pkg set-publisher --no-refresh -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev
pkg: set-publisher: requires a publisher name
Usage:
pkg [options] command [cmd_options] [operands]
Basic subcommands:
pkg install [-nvq] [--no-refresh] [--no-index]
Sorry user erro trying it now...I was able to upgrade my non virtualbox machine
from 111 to 130 to 131 going through same firewall..
pfexec pkg set-publisher --no-refresh -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev
opensolaris.org
pfexec pkg refresh --full opensolaris.org
pkg: 0/1 catalogs successfully
Latest virtualbox
Works with other machine on same network...odd
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Okay well thanks for hanging in with me...You would think that if I can pull up
the url in a web browser, it should work but it doesn't..
I agree though it has to be network related in some way...Thanks...
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I meant latest build of Virtual box
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Hi,
Trying to upgrade from 111b to 131...I have tried adding
http://pkg.opensolaris,org/dev/ to repositories in package manager via GUI and
each time it fails to locate it..
I tried $ pfexec pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev
opensolaris.org from CLI and each time it says
pkg publisher
PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI
opensolaris.org (preferred) origin online
http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/
ExtraRepository origin online
https://pkg.sun.com/opensolaris/extra/
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No web proxy and even if I had one why would I be able to access the other
repositories?
Output:
$ pfexec pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev opensolaris.org
pkg: Could not refresh the catalog for opensolaris.org
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It seems that the type of engineer at Sun did change since the days of Bill
Joy.
It certainly appears so.
And it also does not look like the change was for the better.
_
Windows Live
You find optimizing Python with C as Proof enough? An unfortunate
statement of ignorance (meant literally, not as an insult).
None taken; if I need to be educated, then educate me.
The time from development to deployment with Python is generally very low and
the code is also generally
Most ISVs won't support short term releases of OpenSolaris, and that
really isn't on our radar.
You told me everything I need to know, thank-you-very-much. Goodbye.
_
Windows Live:
As many recent studies have shown, interpreted languages can bring
identical or acceptable performance levels for many operations when
suitable algorithms are employed.
I believe that Wikipedia would term the above paragraph as weasel words,
and put the applicable notice on the article.
I
I would think that by keeping state somewhere, either via SMF properties
or something else, you can record that you've initialized your package
already and so in the SMF methods you would check the state before
performing any action.
I was thinking the same thing. However, several
Please take your insults of the members of this community elsewhere.
They are not welcome here.
It's not meant as an insult; I'm merely stating the current state of affairs.
But if you'd like me to leave, I've no problem with that. Bye.
To the customers who are paying you for new versions. Isn't that where you'd
send the bill for adding support for other new features in new OS releases?
...Except that nobody is paying me, and is not going to pay me in the
foreseeable
future to deliver my product for OpenSolaris.
So
Interest and acceptance of the OpenSolaris 200x releases has been quite
high as should be obvious from the growth of the community since its
release and the traffic stats that can be viewed from pkg.opensolaris.org.
They sure have, and I'm pretty certain it's from the end users, not from
snip
According to the links above, the bugs has already
been fixed in snv_124.
Yep.
Since I already upgraded to snv_124 and the error
is
still happening it might be a different bug ?
Are you getting exactly the same error messages?
Can not read the pool label from ... and
Acer Travelmate 6292 that I use is using i915 driver.
The device driver utility list it as
Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
The problem in b118 is when I typed something the display delays in showing
what I type, furthermore when I play movie using totem (both
Hi Steven Acres,
I have the same problem even with b124. Can you post the driver files you
copied from b121 somewhere maybe in rapidshare ? Currently I didn't have BE
b121, I tried to copy the file from b118 but still cannot mount root filesystem.
In b117 b118 the graphic performance has
Could this be bug 6875025 ?
AHCI port multiplier support cause regression of AMD/ATI SB600/700 support
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6875025
Or maybe 6875451 ?
ahci driver needs to force a port reset for AMD/ATI SB710 during
initialization
When saying something like that, it helps quite a lot of you can cite
the actual CR number so that others can help either rescue the CR (if
it's in need of rescue) or provide a more comprehensive explanation.
The CR is 681661
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6811661
In this
The reason that there's a distinction between root and usr bits is
that Solaris (at least at one point) supported booting off of a small
local disk (containing just /), and remote mounting /usr.
I remember those days very well; the 2.x PROM (wasn't even OpenBoot PROM back
then)
couldn't
hey ... I'm not sure I get what you mean. I can't use distro to describe
the distribution? I do that all the time. And OpenSolaris 2008.05 was
released a few months ago, wasn't it? And it's aimed at new developers and
new users, and we are going after new markets with it (but then
/usr/5bin/ls -- ???
It belongs to SUNWscpu package, which is utilities for user interface and
source build compatibility with SunOS 4.x.
why the heck are we dragging that baggage ?
Because Solaris is backwards compatible? (;-)
For example, Legato NetWorker relies on a
originally at
5/08, then upgraded via an installer to hypothetically 11/08, compared to
a system installed from scratch with 11/08?
I'm trying to evaluate the maintenance requirement to always stay on a
supported openSolaris deployment.
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equivalent?
What does the packaging system do with a package that deploys a
configuration file? Simply not install it if a version already exists?
Overwrite the existing version if and only if it is identical to the
version originally installed (ie, never edited)?
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Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael B Allen wrote:
Hi All,
I have a product that currently only runs on Linux and FreeBSD but I'd like
to port it to Solaris.
My question is - if I compiled the code on OpenSolaris, would the resulting
Hi All,
I have a product that currently only runs on Linux and FreeBSD but I'd like to
port it to Solaris.
My question is - if I compiled the code on OpenSolaris, would the resulting
binaries be portable across other Solaris systems?
Or parhaps someone can recommend a different strategy?
Sure there is. :-) So, here comes a history lesson as all of this has been
talked about before to death.
I thank you kindly for the effort, but I should tell you at this point that I
closely follow the development of OpenSolaris.
How closely?
How about down to monitoring the changelogs -
Actually, we are usually accused of going too far towards catering towards
that sort of user
Yes, you are, but just look who the accusations come from, people that want to
stick stuff in /usr (in plain English: I've no clue what System V is, nor what
standards are, and can barely turn the
Are you dense or being obtuse? What part of legally compelled to follow the
rules don't you grasp?
Let's go with the dense variant.
OK, after some clarification from James and Dr. Hahn, I guess things are
starting to com into perspective.
Glenn also points out that it's about Paper.
OpenSolaris != SXCE.
Ooohhh no, we're not going down that route!
I couldn't care less what gimmicks Ian Co. are pulling, to ME
OpenSolaris IS SXCE and SXDE, and it will remain that way no matter
WHAT. Even if they kill it.
And to anybody that asks me, I'm telling that SXCE and SXDE ARE
I'm not going to try to defend the SDC -- this is neither the right
list to discuss it nor do I have any connection at all with the people
who run that site -- but there's a complication here that I think the
folks posting (and vociferously at that) on the thread need to
realize.
It may well be that there are some features of inst that could teach
us how to do better. If that's the case, call them out so we can
learn from them.
One of the main features is the namespaces. For example, sgi came out with
eoe.sw.ssh.(man|sw|libs)
If I want the latest SSH, I make my own
It usually works, but is clumsy and not terribly user-friendly. Worse,
it can get its knickers in such a complete twist that it can go neither
forward nor back. I'm glad I don't have to deal with it any more.
inst(1M) is almost like a woman: you gotta love a woman right,
and if the woman's
Yes, they have, and what's why it needs to be changed :)
Oh wait...you were talking about Solaris ;)
I think this is too harsh. If you were working on HP-UX, you'd find
that the OS is even more rigid in not changing anything than
Solaris. Solaris is almost ultra-liberal in that respect.
Except HP-UX is dead/dormant for all practical purposes. HP is on the
GNU/Linux bandwagon now.
While it might be true that hp is on the Linux bandwagon now, HP-UX hardware
still makes 17% of the overall hp revenue, and, I told you already, HP-UX is
not dead but being actively worked on.
You
(And while we can fix our scripts to work fine with ksh/ksh93, customer
scripts breakage will be different) I'm not convinced of that yet.
And you don't have to be; that'll change all by itself as you gain engineering
experience under your belt.
Someone had the guts to stand up against the ultraconservative
'backwards compatibility is our religion' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Opensolaris cannot afford such Bourne shell extravaganza anymore
You don't run many mission critical workloads on the server side of things, do
you?
This ain't dustin'
On Feb 6, 2008 9:37 AM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IRIX may be dead, but if we consider that IRIX, even though it is dead,
still has in it technology that is light years ahead of anything currently
available on the market, you ought to sit down and really rethink the
statement you
And you don't have to be; that'll change all by itself as you gain
engineering experience under your belt.
Such a statement incorrectly assumes that I do not have such experience.
If you did actually posess the necessary experience, we wouldn't be having this
discussion right now.
I'm familiar with it. A shining example of how not to do it.
I know you're familiar with it. And that it's your favorite.
I actually dove a little deeper, and have done quite a few tardists. You know
what those are?
And I can say with confidence that the engineers which came up with
I like the idea of this; however, it does introduce a point of failure.
Yes. More below...
Bringing down your Oracle server to patch it could suddenly mean that your
10,000 zones aren't available. That said, if someone does undertake this,
I suspect they'd throw RAC, replication, etc.
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if you're considering to include a Graphic Utility to Add
Software in Solaris Indiana.
I don't have problems with using pkgadd or pkg-get or any other commands, but I
believe that if we really want that the regular end-users adopt Solaris, then a
usual task as
The whole reason why people like the T1000/T2000 line is that they can zone
a whole stack of web services stuff. You don't really think I'd shut down a
dozen zones in order to swap out a disk ? I don't think that a cluster is
needed either.
Clusters ? Who needs them anymore now that
hey guys,
Am a solaris newbie.I ve installed solaris 11 build 72 on x86 machine.
It doesn't detect my onboard-NIC card, Intel pro/100 VE.
Can anyone help me how to install that. I couldn't find any good info on the
internet about this.
Also, Every time I boot the solaris I receive an error
GNOME is bloat to those who don't use it. Could've been
statically linked in.Yikes! Are you suggesting static linking of
GNOME libraries into every application!!
No. I am suggesting that the GNOME-dependent installer be statically linked, so
as to reduce the unbelievable half a
It's a matter of pride to deliver a quality product that just works and
doesn't break something else. I write things for my own purposes and I
often need to use the high resolution timers. I have no idea if that is
portable into the Linux world and I guess I never cared much. I know
Have a look at Microsofts Channel 9 - you can listen to engineers speal of
the changes they've made to Windows kernel, the benefits, etc. etc.That's
exactly what the Sun engineers have been doing for the past two years.In
fact, Sun engineers were the first to popularize it. What it sounds
http://docs.sun.com/ Voluminous - yes
Detailed - yes Usability - I have mixed feelings. Often it has been notes
put up on the blogs, mailing list archives or queries on newsgroups that
seem to give me the right answers. (I can count myself among those
One of the things we as a community have often communicated is that we
abhore the Linux fragmentation and that we want a unified *platform*, in
stark contrast with the Linux mentality. Really? I don't abhore the
Linux fragmentation, and I don't recall a consensus-community message
Something must be wrong with your build as Mplayer rarely crashes for me.
What ever is wrong with my build of Mplayer is wrong for everybody else, for
I installed it from Blastwave.
Maybe they do not want people to be sued. If you want to distribute it
in a box, then you should pay the
Thomas may have chosen the installer's defaults. Unfortunately, the
installer defaults to a root slice with just barely enough space to
install the default package cluster plus a small percentage of overhead
and a huge /export/home partition. This might make sense for huge
servers where
The same thing is still taught in the GNU/Linux and *BSD worlds as well. I
don't think I've ever read a administrator manual that hasn't suggested
placing certain directories on different filesystems, especially those that
contain the mail spool.
IRIX 6.5 had/has only one FS (XFS), /.
Ehh - anything wrong with
$ man pkgrm
on your system?
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How exactly is that any better? Just because the executable bit is set on
a file, it doesn't mean that executing it is actually going to work, and now
the fallback to /sbin/sh is broken too.
First, whoever implements the [ -x /bin/tcsh ] *knows*, in advance, that that
is where the shell
First, whoever implements the [ -x /bin/tcsh ] *knows*, in advance, that
that is where the shell is, and that it is executable. -x is just a
sanity test, in order to be able to adapt to circumstances as much as
possible. In those cases that the dynamic linker failed (corrupted or no
As others have said, xmodmap or similar may be your friends.
I have handled this *annoyance* for years with
stty erase ^H
or
stty erase ^V^H
interactively.
Trust me, having grown up on DEC and Wyse terminals, I know how to set the
[BACKSPACE] to do [DEL].
I think this problem is more easily addressed for first
time uses by making sure the default shell environment
has command line editing; AFAIK, they all allow both ^H and
^? to delete the character to the left of the cursor.
Indeed, `tcsh` will handle both.
However, this annoyance can rear
Why? Delete is the proper key to use for doing a step back; this ain't PC
land where they confused DEL (destructive) and Backspace (non destructive)
with Backspace (delete left) and DEL (delete under). I *never* want to
delete what is to the right of the cursor.
As someone who grew up on a
on x86, its still the sore point of drivers.
*Some* drivers, yes. And some will never be supported, simply because it
doesn't bring much return on investment to employ engineers to write drivers
for obsolete hardware. That itch will have to be scratched by a developer in
the wild. That's a
Even if there is no VC money and some people will have to, hum, share an
apartment?
Why not? Remember also, VC capital is a U.S. specific thing. In Europe, if you
want a startup, you fund that thing out of your own pocket.
Even if there is VC capital available, people here don't go for it,
Another side-effect on earlier Solaris revisions is that quite a number of
startup scripts assumed they were running in /sbin/sh, so if one changed
the root's shell, there would be breakage all o ver the place, and the
system wouldn't boot properly. I believe that his is no more than an
You are wrong; I am *very* sure you are wrong about that. I know that
because: - I inspected the code when people claimed it would fail - I ran
with a very incompatible root shell (tcsh) and it worked.
I did the exact same thing, with root's shell set to tcsh.
When the system rebooted, some
Sad story. But let's say the developers of the idea are
python+framework+ui+graphics people, and they are os agnostic, and
one of them says: we should get solaris because it'll scale, and if
we can bring in Joe the Solaris Guru at founding and give him shares
and make him Director of OS
Presumably because Linux is easier to use. And you either are smarter
than the average user or have learned a great deal from using Solaris,
or both.
The same could be said for Windows - it's very easy to use, so long as its
confined to a single desktop.
If I understand correctly, you
You are missing something very significant. There are times when doing
so, might give you a significant competitive advantage. Whether that
is time to market, efficiency gains, or some other advantage, there
are many cases that make strong business sense for having paid staff
do
Perhaps I am being a little dense here, but what does any of this have
to do with breaking existing standards and compatibility? Isn't this
what businesses are subscribing to when they pay for a given piece of
software and/or support?
In order to build super-stable environments and offer
ROTFL. Sure, the irc guys will have plenty to ask about our mysql enabled
sendmail (I can see the drool on their faces!). Give me a break.
BTW, who will support that customized Sendmail if you decide to quit, or are
hit by a car?
Will it be possible, or will the next guy have to start from
Depending on what his find did, Chris may have encountered a bug. Find
/ or /etc -exec grep foo {} \; can hang on some versions of Solaris
because it encounters a named pipe and gets stuck grepping the pipe
forever.
find / -local -depth -type f -print | xargs grep my-search-string |
Pleeeze - GNU Tar is portable to everywhere that has GNU tar.
For the purposes of this discussion, this includes ALL of the OS's
we are talking about: Solaris, OpenSolaris, the OpenSolaris Distros,
RHEL, Fedora and all the other Linux derivatives.
Now there's a LOGICAL argument!
And the
ROTFL. No. But that is what I would have to do with
OpenSolaris at the moment. Where is this flar?
Who's your information supplier?
You can get Solaris Express, community edition. It's a ready to install distro
based on OpenSolaris.
Since you seem to prefer running development distros in
Most of those I know of rolled up their sleeves, and read and wrote
source code, not documentation.
Right here.
BTW, one's product is only as good as one's documentation and test suite.
What was the point you were trying to make?
I wasn't; somebody else was.
This mainly depends on whether it is possible to refurbish the Solaris
CLI commands the right way.
What needs to be done is: Do not give up what's good on Solaris
but enhance the commands the right way. Solaris is more than a kernel
and it is wrong to ignore the userland.
Yeah. I agree
No worries. I am sure open positions in your respective companies are few.
Not sure what you meant by that. There are tons of open positions in my
company, worldwide to boot.
Why not? RHEL3 did not use 2.6. RHEL4 is stuck with 2.6.9 + certain
backports. If you need some of the latest
I couldn't agree more with your sentiments, but it seems to be a sad fact
these days that many shops hire Joe Sixpacks as their IT pros...
You know why? Because Joe Sixpacks, or x-mas tree experts as I like to call
them, are cheap.
And beancounters in charge of budgets don't have the brains
This is absolutely true from experience, as well; however, I would restrain
myself from calling it incompetence on the part of academics. Its simply
a matter that engineering experience (as you call it) is exclusive to the
curriculum of the average Computer Science program. One doesn't
Sure, IBM may be not be innovating with AIX, as we speak, they've
certainly done so in the past, and it would be a shame to ignore that.
Solaris has gone through its dark times, as well, when AIX was considered
innovative (consider, Solaris 8 v. AIX 4.3.3 or Solaris 9 v. AIX 5.2,
Do you have a HP-UX-11.x system?
Yes, I do.
Well, there is AIX but I am not sure whether IBM takes it for real
and I know of no hacker who is using AIX as development platform.
I wanted to get AIX, but when I looked even at an outdated 32-bit
rack-mountable AIX PPC system, the prices of
One picks Linux as the best choice only if one doesn't know what one is
doing. It is as simple as that.
This kind of thing is coming across more and more as irrational hatred.
Take it elsewhere, it's not helpful.
It's not hatred, it's true. There is nothing Linux has that Solaris
Yeah all those Joe six-pack PhDs running Google are definitely not
real IT/CS professionals. They are clearly not capable of system
engineering, with degrees not worth the paper they are printed on. I
mean come on what kind of two bit organizations are these: CMU, MIT,
Stanford, Caltech,
All that needs to happen is for those developers to start using Solaris as
the main development platform. Again.
Oh, well, that sounds SIMPLE!
SIMPLE is robust. Can you do SIMPLE? Do you know how?
_
Explore the seven
Nothing; I have run with different root shells on many systems
and nothing ever broke (tcsh which is so different from /sbin/sh that
breakage would certainly have happened)
It used to be that the init.d/ scripts didn't specify which shell they wanted
and assumed Bourne shell; and changing
I don't see anything wrong with `exec tcsh -l`. That's only in root's
case anyway, and hopefully not much time should be spent working as root
anyway.
http://solaris.reys.net/english/2006/09/root_shell_in_solaris_10
with rbac and friends you'd have to have a really really good
I just want to check with other senior people on this. Am I one of the
few that uses /sbin/sh as my default shell ? I quite literally use it
as my default.
You like pain and misery, or what? (:-)
I mean /sbin/sh is the default shell and all, and one shouldn't really change
it, but as an
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