RE: Debugging and orion

2001-02-22 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
and Port=the port you specified above I like this setup, particularly for EJBs, but I'll be interested to see if Kawa will work any better. Cheers, Mac Ferguson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp Randy-W18971 Sent: Wednesday, February

RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]

2001-02-22 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
they would attempt to do). -Original Message- From: Brian Wing Shun Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 3:21 PM To: Kemp Randy-W18971 Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!] I've worked with all of the other EJB Servers (Enhydra, JBoss

RE: Debugging and orion

2001-02-22 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
In terms of what Orion can and can't do, it is a full service App server, implementing all the functionality on their website at www.orionserver.com. Like all products, there are problems being worked on (this is true for the expensive servers as well). If you want to know the problems that

RE: Debugging and orion

2001-02-22 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Hi, Julian. This topic has been discussed so many times, that I have lost count. It's best to check the archives for a discussion here, and if you don't know, someone can help you. The tools really range from the free and cheap, to the very expensive, depending on what you are looking for

RE: archives

2001-02-20 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Yes. I don't know the exact name, but it is found in the security primer document at www.jollem.com. -Original Message- From: Paul Wheaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:08 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: archives Is there a web site that contains

Sears and Orion - a hardware question

2001-02-19 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
In following the discussions from the person working with Iplanet, I understand that you could have a hardware solution with multiple Orion servers. Did I understand that correctly? Let me pose a hypothetical question: Suppose a company the size of Sears, picked Orion and Gemstone as the

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-19 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
on it when it affects the bottom line? At least one good thing about J2EE technology -- it helps to give Gates some competition. -Original Message- From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:31 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Kemp Randy-W18971 Subject: RE

RE: Not authorized to view this page

2001-02-18 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Good point, Scott. Never make judgements about a person until you have walked a mile in his mocassins -- old Native American proverb. Or here is my own saying. Someday my teacher may be my student and my student may be my teaccher. -Original Message- From: Adamson, Scott To:

RE: ms access Orion?

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
pdb/ http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/ ) - open sourced by SAP. I have not worked with this DB yet, but I will soon. This DB also has a type 4 JDBC driver. This is a cross-platform DB. Both of these databases "appear" to be industrial strength :) -Original Message---

RE: Is it just me?

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Mine has been also. -Original Message- From: Dan Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:32 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is it just me? My inbox is being inundated by e-mails saying that mail couldn't be delivered to [EMAIL

RE: ms access Orion?

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
The point I am making is this: I will continue to use Orion, whether or not it is open source. Nor do I feel I am better then the people at Orion or those on this list. However, if the Orion code were open source, perhaps I or you may solve an error they can't, partially due to the

RE: ms access Orion?

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I will resend this again, since I am not sure I replied to Orion or yoursef. I am not implying I'm better then the people at Orion or those on this list. Orion has some very bright people, but so are the founders of Jboss and openejb, but they would not expect to solve all the different

RE: ms access Orion?

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
problems and make suggestions they may be too swamped with to do by themselves. -Original Message- From: Joseph B. Ottinger To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/17/01 1:13 AM Subject: RE: ms access Orion? On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote: I am sure, at one point in time, the same

RE: ms access Orion?faisal again

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
a cross-platform DB. Both of these databases "appear" to be industrial strength :) -Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:32 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: ms access Orion? Is ms ac

RE: ms access Orion?faisal again

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
ases "appear" to be industrial strength :) -Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:32 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: ms access Orion? Is ms access considered an RDMS and does it ha

RE: Where are the perfumes bubble bath beads

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
-Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:06 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Where are the perfumes bubble bath beads Here is a mystery I need help with. If all JSP engines and EJB servers are approximately equal, then what explains

RE: Where are the perfumes bubble bath beads

2001-02-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
but in my experience, Orion is fairly easy to work with compared to IAS and Weblogic. Maybe I need to take a look at some of these other servers since everyone is raving about their documentation. Andre -Original Message----- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, F

RE: ms access Orion?

2001-02-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
industrial strength :) -Original Message-From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:32 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: ms access Orion? Is ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC dri

RE: How to deploy?

2001-02-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
The step by step documentation should be in the Orion documentation, but it is not. Orion: here is a riddle for you. If you put an injured bull in a ring, and someone is trying to tease him, what would happen? What does this riddle mean? If a company like Unify is having financial

Orion rebuttal time

2001-02-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
When I asked my question about the 1 gig software, here is one interesting answer I got (in the interest of confidentiality, I will keep their identity secret). One of those that I know about is Orion. It is seriously lacking in documentation or comprehensive examples. It is more like a

RE: Where are the perfumes bubble bath beads

2001-02-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
themselves. bradley mclain --- Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a mystery I need help with. If all JSP engines and EJB servers are approximately equal, then what explains the size differences in the following examples? Latest production Orion - 10 MG Latest production Resin - 12.8

RE: Is it just me?

2001-02-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Mine has been also. -Original Message- From: Dan Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:32 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is it just me? My inbox is being inundated by e-mails saying that mail couldn't be delivered to [EMAIL

RE: VS.: Not authorized to view this page

2001-02-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
The difference is very simple: there is no real difference -- no time out version, limited version, etc., that is found with other commercial products, which is a nice feature indeed. If you are a developer or not making a profit, then you don't incur a license fee. If you set up a school to

RE: Last posting

2001-02-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Cliff: I have been on this list for several months, and I have found the list police, helpful, and useful. The only time I have seen this list react negatively is in a defensive stance, where some user has started a non polite stance. For example, someone once asked how they can get off

RE: How does this effect Orion?

2001-02-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
J2EE providers are going to be shaken out in this transition. There's no way a market will continue to support thirty people selling the same thing. Jeff -Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:10 AM To: Orion-Interest

RE: How does this effect Orion?

2001-02-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
ation more, but this statement seems a little silly. Who would ever say that their product wasn't competitive ? ;) -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp Randy-W18971 Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:13 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE

RE: ms access Orion?

2001-02-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Is ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver? If so, then it should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion. But why would you want to do this? A better solution would be to work with something like Postgresql (www.postgresql.org) orMysql (www.mysql.com), if

RE: Deploy question...

2001-02-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Nick: Don't feel stupid here. The biggest issue I have with Orion is the terrible documentation. Granted, we can play with it (like I and others did), but newcomers need to be encouraged to use it, and get up to speed. I have seen the new Jboss manual from their site (www.jboss.org) and

RE: Security between applications?

2001-02-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Cliff: Sometimes, when things get heated up, you need to just step back before emotion overrules you. The fact that you are using the Resin/ Jboss combination says a lot about your good taste and wise judgment. But once something emotional is put into print, people get offended, and start

How does this effect Orion?

2001-02-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I have read the announcement at www.theserverside.com about the ewave server for only $595 per CPU. The company marketing it has a good marketing and capital engine behind them, so I wonder how this will effect Orion? It is very interesting that there are over thirty vendors offering some

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Good point. You can run Orion for free for non commercial uses, Jboss/Tomcat (www.jboss.org) for free, and the Unify engine for free with limited application concurrency (www.unifyewave.com/). Given the price and quality of these servers, students can then let their future employer know how

RE: Installing application.

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Please look at www.jollem.com for tutorials, www.orionsupport.org and www.orionserver.com for other information. -Original Message- From: Johan Fredriksson To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/13/01 1:38 AM Subject: Re: Installing application. Try using relative paths instead. - Original

RE: project manager - Orion

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Denis: One could argue what server is better from now to doomsday, and nothing will ever get done. I say pick some of the top canidates, such as Weblogic, Orion and Jboss (A good mix, in that you have the best high priced server, low priced server, and open source server), set then up

RE: How good is it?

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Nick: I think that Orion (www.orionserver.com) and Resin (www.caucho.com) both provide bench marks on their web sites that show jrun as slower in the JSP engines then either product, and Orion benchmarks put their JSP engine on par with Resin. Certainly, the documentation for Jrun is

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
even want to get in to them!! /korre -Original Message----- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
--Original Message----- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui's, good documentation, pa

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-12 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui's, good documentation, paid support, etc. But if you look for the opinions of developers who have used these products, and compared them to Orion,

RE: Orion

2001-02-12 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Easy way is to go to a good search engine like www.northernlight.com and look for "EJB Tutorial". -Original Message- From: waheed_rahuman To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/12/01 7:08 AM Subject: Orion hi all Can anybody send me some ejb tutorials bye then waheed

RE: RE: Orion Server compared to Oracle AS

2001-02-10 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I have not gotten into it yet, as our Unix Admin department still have to install it. If you can access the flashline comparison, the Oracle entry shows a write up in server watch. The server watch write up rates it four and one have out of five stars, and they mention the downfall is the

Reflections on Oracle AS

2001-02-10 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Since I haven't had Oracle AS installed yet, I have come up with some reflective questions. Oracle 9I AS is supposed to be compatible with any web server, and we are currently running Iplanet, which is rated very highly be server watch (as is the current incarnation of Iplanet). Yet from the

RE: Orion and openjoda

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
ting mumbo jumbo. Mmhmm, "good taste" my ass. -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp Randy-W18971 Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:37 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion and openjoda If you look at openjoda at ww

RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I look forward to previewing this wonderful course, when it is ready. -Original Message- From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:52 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group Is there any

RE: Save Life

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I am very happy to see you taking an active role in aiding the suffering of others. -Original Message-From: waheed_rahuman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:49 PMTo: Orion-InterestCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; alavoor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I like to open this up with a "marketing" hat vs. a "development" hat. I think you need to familiarize yourself with Orion, and look at the "official" doc, what there is of it at www.orionserver.com, plus the unofficial material at www.jollem.com and www.orionsupport.com. I actively encourage

RE: Orion Server compared to Oracle AS

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If you ask me in two months, I can give you a straight answer. We have just gotten Oracle 9I AS at my company, and I look forward to using it. For the record, I am a big Orion and Jboss/Tomcat (www.jboss.org) fan, but I suffer from the same problem many people have in large corporations:

RE: Where to get Java tools ?

2001-02-06 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Good point. If you do a search on www.northernlight.com for "java tools", an example site is http://www.netobjectives.com/rs_java_tools.htm, with talks about anything from IDE's to JSP engines. You can go to a site like tucows.samarts.com and do a search on "java". -Original

RE: Output Volume

2001-02-06 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If something works OK with one piece of software, and not with another, then who is at fault? The one the program works with or the one it does not? This same dilemma occurred with someone running a program under Weblogic and Orion: It works for Orion but not for Weblogic. Try it with a

RE: Getting Started.....Some Questions

2001-02-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Some of the getting started information can be found in the Orion documentation and FAQ, the user supported site at www.orionsupport.com, and the examples at www.jollem.com. -Original Message- From: James Halloran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:34 AM To:

RE: App that runs on OrionServer but throws ajava.lang.VerifyError on weblogic 6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Since it is a BEA Weblogic problem, and weblogic has paid support, have you contacted the Weblogic support line? Does web logic have a mailing list similar to Orion and have you contacted them? Have you tried running the application on an open source product like Jboss/Tomcat (www.jboss.org)?

RE: Student use and licenses

2001-02-01 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Enterprise? At the moment, Orion is winning as the low-cost app. server to get one of my customers started on the J2EE path. And if there are any J2EE developers/mentors/architects in Atlanta, GA, I might need some help. Burr [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kemp Randy-W18971

RE: Developers

2001-01-31 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Just a few notes to this memo: 1. Someone on this list used openJMS (www.openjms.org) with Orion, and has good success, after they positioned some Jar files, etc. 2. As far as teaching students, I have learned on Orion and Jboss/Tomcat. Orion is free to developers and non commercial use,

RE: Feedback on using Orion in Production.

2001-01-31 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Currently, Orion is being reorganized under another company, in order to provide enhanced support (at a higher price). There are plans to keep developer and non commercial licenses free, and hold the basic price at $1500. I understand those support plans are going slower then usual, and

RE: Developers

2001-01-31 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
One thing I forgot to mention, is that Jboss/Tomcat (www.jboss.org) are pre-configured, and run right from the box. Either Orion (www.orionserver.org) or Jboss/Tomcat would be nice for student needs. -Original Message- From: Jason Rimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday,

Student use and licenses

2001-01-31 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I will share these thoughts on student use, since it was brought up. I think that you can use a combination of open source and commercial products for student use, without paying the required fees (as long as the student applications are not deployed on the server for commercial use). Here

RE: Which version is stable

2001-01-30 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
At one point in time, they said the same thing of version 1.3.8. I believe what they mean is that the experimental version has now become the stable version. -Original Message- From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:14 AM To:

RE: Developers

2001-01-30 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I am not sure about major sites running Orion, but here is some food for thought: When you mean better, what is the criteria? Able to handle a greater amount of traffic? Better documentation? Fewer bugs found? Site not bouncing that often? You can go to www.netcraft.com, and see what a

RE: Why is Netscape slower with Orion?

2001-01-29 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Of the topic -- I personally like the free browsers (opera and lycos) at www.opera.com and www.lycos.com for doing searches, etc., over Netscape and IE, even though I have all four on my development machine. -Original Message- From: Konstantin Polyzois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: Why javac does not compile servlet?

2001-01-26 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If you do a search for package "javax.servlet.http does not exist", on a site like www.northernlight.com, you may get some clues that could help. I did this, just to see what would turn up, and here is a good, example site. One of the sites is

RE: interbase database schema

2001-01-26 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
My favorite book on MySql is called MySQL by Paul DuBois published by New Riders. -Original Message- From: Chris Bartling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:10 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: interbase database schema What about MySQL? Works under both

RE: core dump on solaris running on Sun box.

2001-01-26 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Great idea. If a Sun server burps a Core dump, Sun support is the best starting place. Considering you have several software variables: Sun, Java VM, Informix, Orion, etc., you need to isolate what it is not. -Original Message- From: Robert Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: installing Tomcat 3.1 src

2001-01-24 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I think youare addressing your questions to the wrong list. I would recommend subscribing to the Tomcat list at jakarta.apache.org, and look under Tomcat, and address their mailing list. I also notice you have jboss in your classpath, so I would recommend looking at www.jboss.org, and

RE: Does 1.4.5 crash too often??

2001-01-23 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
And if you inquire about www.orionserver.com, you find them running Orion 1.4.4 on Windows 2000. -Original Message- From: Thomas Pridham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:19 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Does 1.4.5 crash too often?? Haven't tried the

RE: Problem Compiling Servlet! Please help

2001-01-22 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Do you have the servlet.jar in your classpath (needed for Tomcat) or put the tools.jar in the Orion directory (see Orion installation instructions)? Try upgrading at least to Orion 1.3 (the latest stable version). -Original Message- From: Roland Dong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: Open source and low cost EJB

2001-01-17 Thread Kemp Randy
I have lobbied successfully to include your project at www.ejbean.com, when I noticed only jonas under free and open source efforts. Can someone work with Laurent to get Orion added, since it is free to developers and for non commercial usage? --- Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy, I

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Great product, Karl. I must confess, I have never had any experience with any big name EJB servers, like Weblogic or Websphere. My only experience has been with Orion and Jboss, and these products have been both rock solid. I am glad I started learning EJB with them and will continue to

Orion CMP primer to another EJB server

2001-01-12 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Has anyone ever set up the Orion CMP at www.jollem.com on a open source EJB server, such as Jboss? I am doing it as a learning exercise. If anyone has done that, could you please share the java and XML files as a zip? I are about 95% there, but I'm running into a snag or two.

RE: SV: Urgent: Orion/SSL with Thawte-Cert (No contact with Orion her es why)

2001-01-12 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Can Orion wait until the new company is settled, without addressing the bug fixes (at least)? What are the alternatives? 1. Buy into a high priced EJB or application server, like Weblogic or Websphere. They are great products but at high prices. 2. Use one of the open source products, like

RE: Kawa

2001-01-10 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Title: RE: Kawa A couple of good, free Java based text editors are jext and jedit. I don't have the current web sites. -Original Message-From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:04 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Kawa What is

RE: Kawa

2001-01-10 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I have an inquiry into Allaire about Orion and Kawa enterprise, which was forwarded to the Orion development team. If and when I get a response, I will share it with everyone. -Original Message- From: Patrick Deloulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:07 PM

FW: Orion Support

2001-01-10 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
--Original Message- From: Lars Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:18 AM To: 'Kemp Randy-W18971' Subject: RE: Orion Support Randy, This info is good for Enterprise as well. The only thing that is different is for the wizards and that will be coming soon in th

RE: IP-address on orionsupport.com

2001-01-08 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
The support site is a fantastic help tool. I can definitely live with occasional outages, given the wonderful material it contains. Keep up the great work. -Original Message- From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:45 AM To: Orion-Interest

RE: What's going on with Orion? - an answer

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Again, my reply to Orion is that they need to get up to speed quickly. They have a first class product, but because of their pricing structure, their completion is present on two fronts. 1. Create a notch in markets where much higher priced products like WebSphere and WebLogic are king. 2.

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I did address this same question to the folks at www.jollem.com and their suggestion, which was a fine one, was to create a tutorial. Jollem has a mechanism in place to create tutorials (see website). Since I am not an expert, I would ask if some expert (with some spare time) could show us

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Would you be interested in writing a Model three CMP primer (given the time)? It would be helpful to use newcomers to see the CMP primer in three flavors: models 1, 2, and 3. -Original Message- From: Kevin Duffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:59 AM To:

RE: Tomcat 3.2 and Orion

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
This may not answer Tomcat specifically, but if you go to www.caucho.com, and search for the EJB section, there is a solution to set up Resin with Orion (you may need to download Resin and look at the Doc). It would seem to me, since Resin is a JSP engine, you could adapt a similar solution

RE: User guide

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
There are three sources for documentation: Download the doc at www.orionserver.com Look at the questions and answers at www.orionsupport.com Look at the examples at www.jollem.com Unfortunately, the documentation for Orion and the open source initiatives (jboss, jonas, openejb) are not up to the

Open source and license

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If Orion is a full J2EE implementation, they are probably right in not legally releasing the source code as open source. I found this in the openEJB letter archive at http://openejb.exolab.org/list-archive/msg00103.html, under www.openejb.org Unfortunately, we still do not have a complete

EJB generator

2000-12-28 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I have been playing with the EJB generator at http://www.nordija.com (EJB builder) and it looks pretty good. Has anyone else used it?

EJB products listed

2000-12-27 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I came across this site that lists EJB servers at http://www.mgm-edv.de/ejbsig/ejbservers.html. I am passing this along, since Orion and Jboss (favorites of mine) are described.

Integration plans

2000-12-19 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I read in a JSP book that Orion has plans in the future to integrate with Apache and IIS (sp?) servers. Can anyone comment on that? I know that openEJB is slated to integrate with Tomcat and Apache.

setting radio buttons in JSP with database values

2000-12-15 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
This is probably a simple question, but I can't find the answer. I am developing some JSP forms mapping values to a CMP bean and RDMS database. My boss wants to change some text fields in the JSP pages for adding and updating to radio buttons. I can easily set the value with code like this

RE: to boldly go where no man has gone before

2000-12-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
When someone asked for help, it's hard to say what level of expertise they should have. If it is a newcomer (we were all there at one time), and they ask a basic question that can be answered by (1) a working example at a web site, such as www.jollem.com, (2) A book or online tutorial, or (3)

RE: Anyone heard from evermind?

2000-12-08 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I have addressed this question about pricing structure and developmental licenses to Orion and received a reply from Magnus Stenman, of the Orion team. He mentioned the basic license pricing structure will remain at the current price and developer free licenses will continue for non

RE: Anyone heard from evermind?

2000-12-07 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I hope the new company continues to keep the price of Orion reasonable, as the current price of $1500 is great. -Original Message- From: Faisal Khan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:16 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Anyone heard from evermind? I

RE: Orion with iPlanet 4.1

2000-11-30 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I'm running iplanet and Orion in a test environment, but haven't configured the two. I find it easiest to have iPlanet run HTML and CGI applications, and use Iplanet as a gateway to get to Orion (via a hyper link), running on another port, such as 9000. However, if others have configured the

RE: Challenge: Get the J2EE reference examples on Orion

2000-11-30 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
The problem I find getting into EJB programming, and either using a low cost solution, such as Orion, or a zero cost solution, such as jBoss or joNas, is the lack of clear examples for the newcomers, such as myself. For the record, I have running versions of Orion, jBoss and joNas, running in

RE: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]

2000-11-27 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I too wonder about the legalities. Flashline shows several commercial EJB servers that are not J2EE licensed. There are also three open EJB server projects I know of (joNas, jBoss, and openEJB), that share their source code. I must confess, I don't even know what a company must do to become

RE: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]

2000-11-27 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If you think about it, Sun released their source code for JSP and servlets to Apache. IBM and Sun have people working and developing Tomcat, in addition to the Apache volunteers. Yet there are many commercial products implementing JSP and servlets (Jrun, Servlet Exec, Etc.). Similarly, if

What directory are Hypersonic SQL databases stored in?

2000-11-20 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
In Orion, what directory are the Hypersonic SQL databases stored in? In jBoss, they specifically have a directory called hypersonic, but I didn't spot a similar directory in Orion (maybe I didn't look hard enough). So if I have an EJB that automatically creates the data base, where does it

What happens to the database?

2000-11-20 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If I create a database application using a CMP EJB bean, like that shown on http://www.jollem.com/orion-cmp-primer, it will initially create the hypersonic database. Suppose I allow the application to be used for a while, and then update the application to add another database field. What

RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3???

2000-11-20 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
i have sent. Just replace CurrentVersion to 1.3 (If not 1.3) Regards, Santosh. - Original Message - From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3??? I ran into the same

Current Hypersonic SQL web page

2000-11-17 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I can't find the Hypersonic SQL link at http://hsql.oron.ch/. Does anyone know their current home?

RE: New app/tools how-tos required for OrionSupport

2000-11-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Excellent. -Original Message- From: Joe Walnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:42 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: New app/tools how-tos required for OrionSupport I'm going to start collating a new bunch of how-to's for www.orionsupport.com, describing

RE: Orion as JBuilder Servlet Engine

2000-11-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I also suggest you post this question to the Apache Tomcat mailing list. -Original Message- From: Marc Rabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 3:25 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion as JBuilder Servlet Engine I have JB4 Enterprise and have figured out

RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3???

2000-11-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I ran into the same problem with other Java software and reinstalling JDK1.3 resolved everything. -Original Message- From: Robert Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:50 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: orion server works with jdk 1.3??? At 09:16

RE: orion server works with jdk 1.3???

2000-11-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Are you loading JDK1.3 on Linux or Solaris? In the Solaris version, there are several recommended patches not included in the initial Tar. Have you checked all the recommended patches and loaded them? -Original Message- From: Gerald Gutierrez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Setting up EJB's only -- both zipped and not zipped

2000-11-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
If another web server handles everything but EBJ and Orion handles that, what steps must I take to just include the EJB's in Orion? What If I don't want to pack the EJB in Orion, what steps should I take?

RE: Tools was: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-08 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
You can try the beta enterprise version of Kawa for free, and the production version should be ready sometime this year. Go to the web site at http://www.tek-tools.com/enterprise/index.html. Please note they just got acquired by Allaire, the producers of Jrun and Cold Fushion.

RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
There appear to be tools out there. I did a search for EJB generator in www.northernlight.com search engine, and the first site is http://www.d-a-t.com/Download/product%20info/boca-ejb.htm. I know Iplanet application server has an Iplanet Application Builder, which generates EJB skeletons.

RE: Beginner: Step by step tutorial?

2000-11-06 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
in 21 days". I believe I am ready for JSP now. Thanks anyway, Winnie. | -Original Message- | From: On Behalf Of Kemp Randy-W18971 | Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 3:06 AM | To: Orion-Interest | Subject: RE: Beginner: Step by step tutorial? | | | I found an excellen

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