RE: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Paul. Mate, As they say...Don't like to weather in Melbourne?.Wait 5 minutes.. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Northern N.S.W. -Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 September 2003 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big Winds Hi, Strangely

FA-J 18-35/f4-5.6 quality

2003-09-19 Thread Arnold Stark
Actually, the FA-J 18-35 is not so bad. Optically my impression is that it is good enough at least for the *ist D. With that my test shots @18 mm show that the resolution is as high as the *ist D can use(~50 line pairs per millimter) even wide open, and even in the corner of the *ist D

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Alin Flaider
Chris wrote: CB Like any other huge change CB designed to slip in under the radar and avoid pissing off tons of people CB at once, the disappearance of the aperture ring will be slow, subtle, and CB almost inevitable. Pentax in their wisdom waited for a long time for an occasion to

OT: Digital Rebel now in shops in Canada...

2003-09-19 Thread Cameron Hood
but no sign of the *ist D with faulty focus and lousy colours. Nice that the two top cameras by Pentax have totally screwed up and incompatible interfaces: on the MZ-S, you have to stop your lenses down manually, but on the *ist-D, you can't. Good going, Pentax. What the are they doing

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Thanks Kenneth for your explanation. I may sound amateurish, but I'm the one who just sees a shot and takes it. I hate having to do a lot afterwards, be it in a darkroom or in a digital room. That's why I took to slides a certain period, they just gave me what I saw. Looking back I can all my

Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
That is very interesting. I never thought of it that way. So other brands put emphasis on a certain aspect of lens technique. Nikon on sharpness, Leica as well? Something like that? Is there any source on the web for this kind of info or is this typical user experience? It's impossible for a

Re: Tripod use

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Hi William, since you wrote so convincingly a 90 degree tilt was possible, I had a look at my 128RC Manfrotto videohead and low and behold: with some arranging of the handle a 90 degree tilt was possible. Thanks! Now what to do with the photohead? I think I'll keep that for keeps. Never know when

Re: Tripod use

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
I can indeed forget carrying the 058 around. However, it is very stable, partly due to the weight, partly due to the leg construction. Also it can reach enormous height. This was great when I needed to shoot over an audience. Nice also for my camcorder when tilting or panning. For taking pictures,

Re: Pairs

2003-09-19 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] A pair. A pear. A pple. A perture... A pt. mike

Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Been thinking about viewfinders. On my camcorder I can fold out my viewfinder, ie the LCD screen, giving me much more freedom of position than with my photocamera. Why do digital cameras not have such a folding LCD screen? Or do some have them? For this reason alone I've grown to love video more

*ist D hits down under.

2003-09-19 Thread Leon Altoff
Well the *ist D is now in Australia. I got a phone call from Camera house today saying that they have a Display Model and that stock would be arriving next week. I am of course welcome to come in and have a play with it, but they can't sell it. I rang the shop where I have ordered mine and they

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Chris Brogden wrote: Actually, the *ist will work fine with MF lenses. No, it's a cripple-mount, so it won't work with non-A lenses. The best it can work with them is like the MZ-50 (metering at full, but stopping down for the exposure, thus underexposing). Kostas

Re: *istD and modified K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bojidar Dimitrov a écrit: ... It is not possible to midify an SMC or SMC-M lens to behave like an SMC-A. The reason is that the former ones have a logarithmic aperture coupling and the latter a linear one. The *ist D requires linear, so even if you modify the lens mount to simulate the presence

Re: Cable Switches

2003-09-19 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bill Owens a écrit: At 07:56 PM 9/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Bill Owens said: IIRC the *ist D and ZX-L use the same remote cable, which is different from those for the MZ-S and which is different from the other ZX series. IOW, if you have a ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist series, you will need three

Re: Remote control question

2003-09-19 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Herb Chong a écrit: what is the difference between the Remote Control Set D and the Remote Control Set F? everything i can find out about them makes them seem the same functionally. the Remote Control Set E at least looks like it controls zooming. there isn't a D on the Pentax web site, so it

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Dr E D F Williams
They do. One of the Nikon lines has a viewfinder 'screen' that folds out and turns through three- quarters of a circle (I think). Is it a 57xx or 59xx? It also has an electronic viewfinder. Yes? Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and

*ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread Arnold Stark
The *ist I played with last weekend along with the *ist D behaved just like the *ist D with K/M lenses: Av mode: wide open only, correctly metered; Manual mode: no metering but lens stops down to selected value. The trick to unlock the lens in AV mode to have it stop down worked, too. Arnold

Re: *ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread Alan Chan
just like the *ist D with K/M lenses: Av mode: wide open only, correctly metered; Manual mode: no metering but lens stops down to selected value. You mean Teasing exposure mode 1 Teasing exposure mode 2. :-) The trick to unlock the lens in AV mode to have it stop down worked, too. Pentax should

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2003 12:49:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The absurd limits of a film for instance. I hope that digital solves this all in due course. Paul Delcour I hadn't really thought about this before. Interesting idea. Marnie aka Doe

Re: *ist D hits down under.

2003-09-19 Thread Ryan
Hey Leon what's the Aussie list price? Ryan - Original Message - From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: *ist D hits down under. Well the *ist D is now in Australia. I got a phone call from Camera house today

Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Hi all, anyone know and/or use this zoom? I have found the following on: http://medfmt.8k.com/third/cult.html#tokina Tokina 28-85mm f/4 RMC and f/3.5-4.5 ATX Tokina designed an RMC f/4 version of this lens which had a constant aperture, unlike the later ATX variable aperture version.

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread cbwaters
Kostas, I have several MF lenses that are also A lenses. I expect the D to work fine with them. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:29 AM Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

Re: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread Alin Flaider
Paul wrote: PD PD From all the info I have gathered from you all and the web I'm still pretty PD confused as to what zoom within say 24-105 is a good one. Do I really need PD to go Pentax or, Paul, do you shoot into the sun or fancy backlights? In this case go for SMC. Tokina's

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Herb Chong
several Canon and Nikon models do have th folding LCD screen. it adds to cost and is found only on their higher end models. Herb... - Original Message - From: Paul Delcour [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:08 AM Subject:

Re: Cable Switches

2003-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:56 PM 9/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Bill Owens said: IIRC the *ist D and ZX-L use the same remote cable, which is different from those for the MZ-S and which is different from the other ZX series. IOW, if you have a ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist series,

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Herb Chong
all of the Nikon 5xxx series have folding LCD. the 5700 has an electronic viewfinder. the others in the 5xxx series have optical finders. Herb - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re:

Re: OT: Canon 300D (aka Rebel digital)

2003-09-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
As many as it takes. I don't believe, as mnay here do, that Pentax just says let's be sure we wait long enough to hurt our business. They may make bad decsions, but I think they release things as soon as they can. I also accept, however, that we are no the bulk of their business. Steven

RE: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread Amita Guha
It fizzled here in Manhattan... haven't even had a drop of rain. I was kinda looking forward to a little excitement - but quite happy not to be living on the seashore right now! Same here! I really didn't think we'd get anything - we never do - but I was looking forward to something a

Re: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread Alin Flaider
Paul wrote: PD PD From all the info I have gathered from you all and the web I'm still pretty PD confused as to what zoom within say 24-105 is a good one. Do I really need PD to go Pentax or, Paul, do you shoot into the sun or fancy backlights? In this case go for SMC. Tokina's

OT: Processing woes

2003-09-19 Thread mike wilson
They say that problems come in threes and I seem to have proved it this week. A number of films have been lost in the post to and from the Kodachrome labs. In Europe, this is only done in Switzerland. For me, it is the end of Kodachrome useage. Although the person at the end of the phone was

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
I don't think this is negative, I think it's the just the extreme expression of the aesthetic aspect of photography. Like most art forms, there is a technique side that puts constraints on pure aesthetics, and the resulting combination is art. One of the good parts about photography is that if

Re: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Big Winds It fizzled here in Manhattan... haven't even had a drop of rain. I was kinda looking forward to a little excitement - but quite happy not

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Delcour Subject: Viewfinder Been thinking about viewfinders. On my camcorder I can fold out my viewfinder, ie the LCD screen, giving me much more freedom of position than with my photocamera. Why do digital cameras not have such a folding LCD screen?

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Delcour Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer What I certainly do not like about photgraphy is the amount of technique I need to get a picture rigt. I feel the technique is more a burden than a blessing. As a choir conductor I do not

RE: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread Amita Guha
If you want some excitement, you can get a chainsaw and remove the willow tree from my backyard. It wasn't there yesterday. I'm sorry to hear about that, Christian. :(

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Herb Chong
they are not any more battery hogs than the LCDs that don't move. Herb - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Viewfinder Some of the better digital point and shoots for sure have folding

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
I think then the viewfinder on a photocamera is very different from a camcorder's. The former is merely a rough reminder what the picture will look like, the latter is, for me, an absolute neccesity because to me it's like watching TV, be it small, by which I can very well judge the resulting

Film limits - measuring light correctly

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
It sounds a bit of a strong viewpoint, doesn't it. What I mean is the limited lightvalues a film can take. It can soon be too light (my K2 only has 1/1000), but more sooner gets too dark to get any decent image on film. With a camcorder I can go till I have only the light of a matchstick. Of

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
You're right of course, but I find the limits of light values within which you can get a decent picture rather an obstruction than a blessing. Funny I do not experience this with my choral conducting, although the limits of waht a choir can do are sometimes enormous, considering the level of

Re: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread Christian Skofteland
It's not a big deal. My fence sacrificed itself to save the house! Thanks! Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: RE: Big Winds If you want some

OT RE: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Here in Baltimore we were braced for some Heavy S*** weather-wise. Then Isabel lost strength and took a more westerly track. Yesterday evening I gave a neighbour a ride to work and he said, This wasn't as bad as I expected. I explained that what we'd seen by then was just the _start_. Some

Re: Big Winds

2003-09-19 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Christian wrote: If you want some excitement, you can get a chainsaw and remove the willow tree from my backyard. It wasn't there yesterday. Ah, I lost a tree and you gained one, so there's balance, right? -- Glenn

OT RE: Big Wind

2003-09-19 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Correction -- I said hundreds of thousands of people without electricity here. It turns out the number _around_here_ is more like 1.1 million. -- Glenn

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Apilado
The long discontinued Canon Pro 90 has a LCD screen that you can unfold and rotate. The 90 also has image stabilization. Jim A. From: Paul Delcour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:08:47 + To: Pentax discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: *ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Apilado
The real trick is for Pentax, or some other camera maker, to make a digital slr that works with all of the K, M, A lenses and not have to fool with all these techniques to get the older lenses to work correctly. For $1600 bucks the *istD should have been able to do this. Jim A. From: Arnold

Uk *istD has arrived

2003-09-19 Thread zoomshot
My dealer just called, this happy bunny is off to Cameraworld. It will be in my hands in an hour or so. Ziggy

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Yes I do, but you forget one thing. People have talents. The very first time I stood in front of a choir I simply knew what to do. Nobody told me, it just came out of me as if I had never done anything else. Of course I had to learn things and develop that talent, but as a photographer I find I

Re: OT: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
I don't want Brucie dead. I'd hate to stir up his kin. Doug Franklin wrote: Chris Brogden wrote: If you want a particular list member dead, can you at least tell them that off-list? Just put Bruce in your kill file and you won't have to listen to his misogynist (and otherwise offensive)

Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Let's dump on Mark for his first Pano. (Grumpy Critic Voice): Hell, not only are there TWO rivers but they aren't mentioned in Hemingway. Amateur shrimp. -lol -Lon Mark Cassino wrote: Hi Marnie - At 02:54 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My eye didn't know where to go. The

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Is it not interesting that people are predicting Pentax's Future from crippled (and mostly LowBall) bodies? Hell, I am too. Well, the old glass is still cheap, may get cheaper, and as long as my eyes can still focus, the hell with it. Chris Brogden wrote: Now Pentax users know *exactly* how Nikon

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread brooksdj
Graywolf dude wrote: The interesting thing is that while the pros are dumping their darkroom stuff, many amateurs are setting up darkrooms (especially for BW work) because there is a certain joy to doing things the old way. One can in fact set up a

Re: An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Cesar, You ain't no Newbie. If your MX LEDS are difficult to see in anything but Shiney Sun Light At Your Back, then, from MHO, there are only 2 possible problems at work: a) Your eyes ain't what they used to be. I say this at age 53. b) That there MX ain't quite right. Cesar Matamoros II wrote:

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Arnold, I 'spects you are right. This is just as awkward and stupid as using a K-1000 to get DOF. Pentax needs to change the firmware. PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FIRMWARE. (repeat after me:) PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FIRMWARE. PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FIRMWARE. PENTAX NEEDS TO CHANGE THE

Re: Pairs

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
There is not such thing as a pple There are People. I'm gonna hit Cotty with a wet sock. Wetted, mind you, with something alcoholic. You gotta tempt the horse to water before you shove his head in for a brew. lol Apple computer was invented by Hippies in the danged 70's. Anyone who uses one has

Re: OT: Washington DC hunkering down for the big one

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Did our Leerless Feader fart recently? Cotty wrote: I gather that the storm is about to hit. You guys take it easy there while the wind blows.

Re: *ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread brooksdj
Well, I sometimes wonder, do all you guys refuse to buy a new car because they no longer come with a hand crank to start them? Hand crank,we would have killed for a hand crank.Dad used to hold the fan while we turned the car.Neighh.vbg Dave --

RE: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread Sas Gbor (Fornax)
Hi, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I think the trend is the early 80's tokina RMC lens lineup is G O O D !!! I agree, only flare might be a problem. My Tokina RMC 4/25-50 is a great lens too. Gabor

Re: Tripod use

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
I agree with everything Boris says. But... There's more to tripods than sharpness. Honestly. Even though I hate to carry them. Boris Liberman wrote: Christian, you're basically right, but your reasoning has to take into account the ultimate outcome. If we're talking 30x40 cm prints or 10x15 cm

Re: First Pano Try

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
Let's dump on Mark for his first Pano. (Grumpy Critic Voice): Hell, not only are there TWO rivers but they aren't mentioned in Hemingway. Amateur shrimp. -lol -Lon Mark Cassino wrote: Hi Marnie - At 02:54 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My eye didn't know where to

Re: Film limits - measuring light correctly

2003-09-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: What I mean is the limited lightvalues a film can take. It can soon be too light (my K2 only has 1/1000), but more sooner gets too dark to get any decent image on film. With a camcorder I can go till I have only the light of a matchstick. Of course the

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Been thinking about viewfinders. On my camcorder I can fold out my viewfinder, ie the LCD screen, giving me much more freedom of position than with my photocamera. Why do digital cameras not have such a folding LCD screen? Or do some have them? For this

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Frank, you look better wearing Nothing in Public. For proof, www.FrankNekkid.com/Don'tBuyTooManyShotsAtOnce. Them gals is eating it up, lemme tell ya. lol Bob S wrote:riault [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I should wear my Moroccan fez in public? Haven't done that yet, but if it's a health issue...

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I am at the level in music that you seem to be in photography. I took two, two long years, wow, of lessons and still can not get what I want out of my mandolin. ! I'll play with you any time you like Tom. Musicalia accoustic, bought in 1995. Haven't

Re: Uk *istD has arrived - Update

2003-09-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Just got back, no time to play tonight as we are out to dinner, I hope that will come tomorrow and the day after. I will post an update when I can. Priorities Ziggy, priorities! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Tripods usage with DSLR

2003-09-19 Thread Ramesh Kumar
Your earlier response did surprise me. May be becuase you read too many PDML mails:-) Thanks Ramesh --- Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ramesh, I think I misunderstood an earlier post you made on this subject. I thought you were talking about film cameras when you said you could

Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
You know, I don't think I am completely convinced that every picture has to be supersharp or even very sharp. Or that sharpness is the #1 indicator of a good picture. Or whatever. Re tripods. Marnie aka Doe Smacks to me of the concept that a photograph should be as close to realism as

Re: Uk *istD has arrived - Update

2003-09-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
Sounds like someone is going to have a fun day. Enjoy and regale us with many details. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/03 01:16PM Well, what an afternoon,

Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Seconded. Nice shot in a place hard to get to. Mark Cassino wrote: Congrats again, Ken!

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Lon Williamson
Mark, I think this is crap. Pentax has been screwing with DLSRs for 4 years. That's enough time to hatch, say, WindowsME. And cameras ain't as hard as operating sytems. Pentax may need to hire some more SW engineers. Mebbe they can find some in Pakinstan. Mark Roberts wrote: whickersworld [EMAIL

Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round

2003-09-19 Thread brooksdj
You know, I don't think I am completely convinced that every picture has to be supersharp or even very sharp. Or that sharpness is the #1 indicator of a good picture. Or whatever. Re tripods. Marnie aka Doe Smacks to me of the concept that a

Re: Viewfinder

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
I do now, reading your grin PS... Somehow it's wrong as it's lost its meaning a bit, putting it under every mail. :-) Paul From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:35:04 +0100 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Viewfinder Resent-From:

Re: Film limits - measuring light correctly

2003-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: On 19/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: What I mean is the limited lightvalues a film can take. It can soon be too light (my K2 only has 1/1000), but more sooner gets too dark to get any decent image on film. With a camcorder I can go till I have only the light of a

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
I have a third theory. You catch colds from other people right? But when they see you in your hat (especially the Nepalese one!) they go Uh-oh, weirdo and steer a wide berth. Ergo, no colds :-) Chris (actually I have a wide-brimmed 'Indy' type hat myself) I may have missed this, because of

Re: Film limits - measuring light correctly

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
Keith said: Precisely so, Sir! And to say that because the artist didn't grind his own colors, with mortar and pestle, and personally mix it up with virgin juice and a hen's albumin, he's hardly the artist the dead guy is... well that's just pure B.S. And he/she probably has more time to paint

Re: Film limits - measuring light correctly

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Technique can be learned, seeing a shot not. You see it or you don't. Somebody can point it out to you, you may see it then, but is you who 'sees' it! In music, for instance putting your fingers on the right keys on a piano can be learned, making music by playing the piano can't. This may seem

Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round

2003-09-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Guess I shouldn't mention that I very frequently shoot my 67ii handheld or that I just purchased a 120 soft lens for it. For me, a tripod represents the best way to take a photograph to get the technical aspects correct. Not only does it provide for a sharper picture, but it really aids in

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a third theory. You catch colds from other people right? But when they see you in your hat (especially the Nepalese one!) they go Uh-oh, weirdo and steer a wide berth. Ergo, no colds :-) Chris (actually I have a wide-brimmed 'Indy' type hat myself) I may have

Re: *ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread Fred
The real trick is for Pentax, or some other camera maker, to make a digital slr that works with all of the K, M, A lenses and not have to fool with all these techniques to get the older lenses to work correctly. For $1600 bucks the *istD should have been able to do this. Jim A. sarcasmCome

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
You must do two things, probably both of which require you establish new habits... As you report, either wash your hands frequently, or carry alcohol-based hand wipes, available at all drugstores. Secondly, STOP touching your face! Your nose, your chin, your lips, rubbing your forehead, etc. Many

Re: Film limits - measuring light correctly

2003-09-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Cotty, Couldn't have put it better myself! Bruce Friday, September 19, 2003, 11:58:29 AM, you wrote: C When an artist picks up a pencil, will it be hard or soft? What C informs that judgement? Partly it is the feel of the work he/she is C wanting to produce, and how that work translates as a

Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Delcour
Hear, hear. Cameras lie, we make the lies. :-) Paul Delcour From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:25:52 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
ITYM anti-bacterial ;-) And even anti-bacterial characteristics will have no effect on the viruses that cause colds. -- Mark Roberts Then why did it work? Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Dag T
På fredag, 19. september 2003, kl. 21:55, skrev Mark Roberts: Myself I cut my colds down to almost nothing by increasing the number of times I wash my hands. Using bacterial soap. ITYM anti-bacterial ;-) And even anti-bacterial characteristics will have no effect on the viruses that cause colds.

Re: my first moon shot

2003-09-19 Thread frank theriault
Wow! Way cool, Amita. Sometimes wasting time reading pdml pays dividends, eh? vbg Seriously, wonderful shot. cheers, frank Amita Guha wrote: Thanks to you fine folks, I finally got a decent shot of the moon: http://www.beyondthepath.com/photos/misc/moon.jpg 400mm, f/5.6, didn't record

Re: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread frank theriault
Well, I guess it was JCO. What the hell do I know, anyway! Okay, back to whatever you were doing... -knarf frank theriault wrote: Hi, Andre, Nope. 'T'weren't me. I have a Vivitar S1 3.5 constant aperture 24-48, that I love. JCO's mostly a screwhead prime-guy, so I doubt it was him,

RE: *ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
does the *istD or any other pentax body have an autobracket T manual mode. I'm thinking set the fstop and shutterspeed manually, and then get three exposures with fixed fstop ,speed setting, speed +X stops, Speed-X stops. I would like that one. JCO

My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread Kristian Walsh
On Friday, Sep 19, 2003, at 20:49 Europe/Dublin, Lon wrote: Mark, I think this is crap. Pentax has been screwing with DLSRs for 4 years. That's enough time to hatch, say, WindowsME. And cameras ain't as hard as operating sytems. Pentax may need to hire some more SW engineers. Mebbe they can find

RE: Uk *istD has arrived - Update

2003-09-19 Thread zoomshot
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 September 2003 20:24 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Uk *istD has arrived - Update On 19/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Just got back, no time to play tonight as we are out to dinner, I hope that will come tomorrow

Re: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread Andre Langevin
frank theriault wrote: Hi, Andre, Nope. 'T'weren't me. I have a Vivitar S1 3.5 constant aperture 24-48, that I love. JCO's mostly a screwhead prime-guy, so I doubt it was him, but maybe. Well, I guess it was JCO. What the hell do I know, anyway! Okay, back to whatever you were

Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread graywolf
Gee, I sure hope the istD works better than WinME. Lon Williamson wrote: Mark, I think this is crap. Pentax has been screwing with DLSRs for 4 years. That's enough time to hatch, say, WindowsME. And cameras ain't as hard as operating sytems. Pentax may need to hire some more SW engineers. Mebbe

RE: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread Andre Langevin
Also forgot to mention I also bought a tokina RMC 400mm F5.6 which is also of excellent++ quality. I think the trend is the early 80's tokina RMC lens lineup is G O O D !!! JCO A french book on macro photography found that the Tokina 200/3.5 was remarquable when used with tubes for close-ups.

RE: My own little *ist D review (fwd)

2003-09-19 Thread zoomshot
It works better than XP, just try it... And XP is very stable. Ziggy -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 September 2003 00:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review (fwd) Gee, I sure hope the istD works better

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread graywolf
I think the psychologists have a word for the kind of people who keep washing their hands all the time GRIN. (Couldn't resist) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they wouldn't do that, they would cut their colds or other upper respiratory ailments by 90%! Truly! Ask your spouse/live-in/S.O. or other

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread graywolf
Frank, I don't know about mothers with newborns, but the makers of Zest did a study to prove their bath bar killed more germs than plain old soap. This was back in the early 60's. However, they never mentioned in there ads that the control group who did not wash at all for two weeks had an

RE: Tokina 28-85 3.5/4.5 ATX

2003-09-19 Thread J.C. O'Connell
That lens had outstanding contrast and definition. The only reason I sold it was I thought 28-85 was better range. But the 35-105 is faster abeit kinda bulky and didnt balance well without a grip. I'm sure it was flare proof given the enormity of its contrast. I remember shooting some kodachrome

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
Graywolf said: I think the psychologists have a word for the kind of people who keep washing their hands all the time GRIN. (Couldn't resist) I know, I thought about that. Makes me sound like a handwringer and a germ freak. I just wanted to pass along that I know the wash hands/not touch face

Re: *ist and K/M lenses

2003-09-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Sep 2003 at 17:18, Robert Gonzalez wrote: So make it consistent. Take a meter reading *every* time. It will probably make a good habit. :) But it's still changing the way I work. A need aperture control via the aperture ring with metering through the lens, quite a simple need wouldn't

Re: Tripod use - hard lenses and soft films or the other way round

2003-09-19 Thread Eactivist
it should be sharp if you want it to be sharp. Herb Good answer. Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: OT-Hats and Good Health-was:An outing with an MX.

2003-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
There are two kinds of washing hands or other parts. Compulsively washing, several times a day, and then when your parts are dirty. If you remain in your own home environment, I'd say wash when you feel grubby, but other times, rinse for this and that and towel off... It's when you go out and

Re: my first moon shot

2003-09-19 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 4:07 PM -0400 9/19/03, Amita Guha wrote: Thanks to you fine folks, I finally got a decent shot of the moon: http://www.beyondthepath.com/photos/misc/moon.jpg 400mm, f/5.6, didn't record the speed but it was probably 1/250 or 1/500. Looks good! The moon is a surprisingly difficult subject. --

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