Re: false comparison lp/cd versus film/ccd

2003-11-21 Thread Anders Hultman
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, John Francis wrote: > So far (touch wood) I've had no problem with the Memorex > 8x or 10x I use. They might cost a couple of cents more > per gigabyte, but they're still dirt cheap - I remember > when CD-R media cost a couple of bucks each. When I recorded my first CD-R dis

Re: false comparison lp/cd versus film/ccd

2003-11-21 Thread David Mann
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > > Odd, I have CD-Rs that were burned nearly 6 years ago and are still > > readable by my computers. Surely shome mishtake? > Me too. I have some CD-Rs with my company's archives that are older than > even 7 years. One thing: they are all from well known brands (Philips,

Re: Sad news

2003-11-21 Thread David Mann
Mark Roberts wrote: > Well it is going to a good hope. A friend of mine who likes Pentax > cameras and wants a classic, manual focus camera with manual exposure > capability. The K2 is about as good as it gets, despite being a little loud and a bit hefty (its the heaviest of all the K-mount bodi

Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread David Mann
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > It seems that some USB 2 cards are not pushing pixels as fast as they > should be. Some are designated as USB 2 only to indicate that they are > "compatible" with that format. So, if you're looking to buy a USB 2 card > reader, be sure that it's high speed USB 2, and that

Re: false comparison lp/cd versus film/ccd

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, John Francis wrote: > > > So far (touch wood) I've had no problem with the Memorex > > 8x or 10x I use. They might cost a couple of cents more > > per gigabyte, but they're still dirt cheap - I remember > > when CD-R media cost a couple of bucks each. > > When I recorde

How hard is it to change a K-mount/

2003-11-21 Thread John Coyle
The subject says it all, but here's why! I just got a Pentax A70-210/4 zoom in excellent condition (for A$110), except for the mount, which has some rough patches where various people have abused it. What are the pitfalls (and is it practical) in taking off the lens mount and replacing it with on

Re: way OT: CD/LP was A conversation with Noritsu.

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: > Going to the site you posted, I got this: > >The area you wish to access is behind registration. Oh! I'm not registered either, I don't think? I certainly didn't log on and I haven't a clue what my username and password might be if I was. > Oh

Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> > > Not that I'm too bothered if the transfer takes half an hour. The only > > time I'm likely to care about speed is if I'm out in the field, when I > > will probably be loading onto my laptop using a PCMCIA adapter, which > > should be able to transfer a little faster. > > Actually if you wa

Re: vinyl Was: RE: Digital/Film body pricing (was: A conversation with Noritsu.)

2003-11-21 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Friday, November 21, 2003, 4:41:29 AM, you wrote: [...] > A friend of mine is a Dr of Music. > According to him, anyone over the age of 50 who figures they can still > appreciate the joys of an expensive sound system are fooling themselves. We > lose much ability to discern subtle tonal varia

Re: Is this a Vivitar?

2003-11-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > Just bought this off ebay: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2962277257&category=29982&rd=1 Damn. It arrived today. *Fantastic* balance and handling of a huge lens on the miniscule MZ-5n. Screwing the Jessops UV gives you a

and now me - 011101100... + Q

2003-11-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
After lng negotiations with my wife (now I know why corruption statistics in Poland are so bad ;-), I can finally go *istD too. Just before I go and buy it, I would like to ask some questions to *istD brotherhood, as I noticed some strange things testing *istD: 1. It had misaligned superimp

*istD at B&H cheaper too

2003-11-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
B&H lowered price too - now it is 1499$. -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: My first sale!

2003-11-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 20.11.03 17:46, Bill Owens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One of the members of our church asked for a copy of this. The first sale > of one of my images. Little Brown Church in the Vale: > > http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=47 Congratulations Bill!

Re: *istD at B&H cheaper too

2003-11-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very suprisingly, I bought mine from the local store here for $1490. Not very often that they are cheaper than the NY mail order houses. I'm guessing B&H and Adorama are only lowering prices when they have to. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, November 21, 2003, 2:06:14 AM, you wrote: SP> B&H lo

Re: false comparison lp/cd versus film/ccd

2003-11-21 Thread Herb Chong
at wrok at about 1990, we had one of the Yamaha ones that sold for about $15,000 that was the size of s small desk. CD-ROM software and CD-ROMs in general were just coming out then. i still have a few commercial CD-ROMs, just sitting there, including Microsoft's Multimedia Beethoven's 9th. Herb...

Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Herb Chong
have you compared battery life versus CompactFlash cards? i see that the 4GB MicroDrive card draws 310mA when writing while most CF cards are in the 65mA range. i'm right now using a 1GB CF card and it holds only 70 RAW images. the alternative is to spend more and get a 2GB CF card instead. Herb..

Re: smc eyeglasses?

2003-11-21 Thread Leonard Paris
Pentax and Carl Zeiss go back a way. Multicoating lenses was a joint development of theirs. SMC and T* have the same roots. They may have diverged a bit over the years but they are both very effective. I think Rollei may have licensed their HFT from CZ, as well. Len --- * There's no place lik

Re: Enablement needed

2003-11-21 Thread Leonard Paris
I think it would be a mistake to sell off those great lenses. Keep them and wait until you have money enough to buy the *ist D. Len --- * Wherever you go, that's where you'll be. 127.0.0.1 From: "David Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Pentax Discuss List" <[EMAIL PR

Re: false comparison lp/cd versus film/ccd

2003-11-21 Thread Leonard Paris
Kodak gold CD-R disks were excellent. Unfortunately, they don't make them anymore. Has anyone had any experience with TDK black? I can't find them around here but have heard they are very good. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: "David Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Leonard Paris
There's something to be said for not putting all your eggs (images) in one basket. Why not buy two more 1GB CF cards? Just yesterday all you could shoot on a roll of film was 36 pictures. Changing CF cards every 70 (or even every 35) shots is not that time consuming or tiring. If you ever ha

Re: Question about slide-show or screen saver software

2003-11-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Mark, it may be the colors that are the problem, not the font size >> >In Netscape there is a lot of royal blue on black - looks pretty but hard to >> >read. >> >> Which version

Re: How hard is it to change a K-mount/

2003-11-21 Thread Mark Roberts
"John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The subject says it all, but here's why! I just got a Pentax A70-210/4 zoom >in excellent condition (for A$110), except for the mount, which has some >rough patches where various people have abused it. What are the pitfalls >(and is it practical) in takin

Re: A conversation with Noritsu.

2003-11-21 Thread Keith Whaley
Chris Brogden wrote: [. . .] > > > You can't tell me that most ISO 100 films, or a Nikon F5, or a Canon 1Ds, > > > or most f2.8 zooms are mediocre. > > In my mind a 2.8 zoom is mediocre, even if it makes great photos. It's > > big, it's slow to use, it's heavy, it's not unobtrusive, it's not a

For Sale Friday

2003-11-21 Thread Camdir
Hello Folks I am selling quite a bit of stuff on commission on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29982&item=2965531641 ..amongst others. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter

Is this a fungal infection? [Was: Re: Is this a Vivitar?]

2003-11-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
As I got no interest so far, it seemed to me that I buried my question under the thread. Let me try again. The Kiron 70-210/4 I bought off ebay arrived today. I had a look at the front element(s) and I see a reflection like a small splash on the back of the front element or on the second element

So what happens ...

2003-11-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
... when a modern Pentax body starts overlapping frames? Is there a clutch in the take-up that begins to slip or is it gears? Just curious. CRB

Re: So what happens ...

2003-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" Subject: So what happens ... > ... when a modern Pentax body starts overlapping frames? > Is there a clutch in the take-up that begins to slip > or is it gears? > Just curious. It's indicative of the death of the little mice that you hear

Re: Is this a Vivitar?

2003-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" Subject: Re: Is this a Vivitar? > However, I had a look at the front element(s) and I see a reflection > like a small splash on the back of the front element or on the second > element or sth like that. Is that Mr Mushroom? Is that a go

Re: and now me - 011101100... + Q

2003-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" Subject: and now me - 011101100... + Q > After lng negotiations with my wife (now I know why corruption > statistics in Poland are so bad ;-), I can finally go *istD too. Just before > I go and buy it, I would like to ask some ques

Re: and now me - 011101100... + Q

2003-11-21 Thread brooksdj
> > - Original Message - > From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" > Subject: and now me - 011101100... + Q > > > 4. Some of my flash (with AF360) shots were alightly underexposed. Should > it > > work this way? > > I've found that my camera tenns to over exp

FA: Pentax (and Kodak) gear (multiple auctions)

2003-11-21 Thread Brian Dipert
All auctions close on Sunday. Thanks in advance for your interest! Pentax ZX-5 QD w/35-70 PK-F Zoom, other accessories (Item #2966059206) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2966059206 Pentax Super Program w/50mm lens, other accessories (Item #2966061505) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBa

Re: Is this a fungal infection? [Was: Re: Is this a Vivitar?]

2003-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
It sounds like a fungus. A good camera repair shop should be able to disassemble the lens and clean it. If it's as minor as it sounds, the repair should be 100% successful. I've had it done on a couple of lenses, and all have remained clean. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > As I got no interest so f

The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi gang, Notice I said "taking," for this photo wasn't offered, and the shutter was tripped surreptitiously. The woman had no idea that I was going to take this picture of her. I have mixed feelings about this shot. On the one hand it seemingly reflects an aspect of American culture, yet, on the

Re: Is this a fungal infection? [Was: Re: Is this a Vivitar?]

2003-11-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Paul Stenquist wrote: > It sounds like a fungus. A good camera repair shop should be able to > disassemble the lens and clean it. If it's as minor as it sounds, the > repair should be 100% successful. I've had it done on a couple of lenses, > and all have remained clean. Than

Re: So what happens ...

2003-11-21 Thread ernreed2
> when a modern Pentax body starts overlapping frames? > Is there a clutch in the take-up that begins to slip > or is it gears? > Just curious. > > CRB > How modern? My ZX-5n started doing this when I'd had it about 13 months. (I had the extended warranty. Back to Pentax it went for repair

Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Friday, Nov 21, 2003, at 03:10 America/New_York, David Mann wrote: I seem to recall that one of the slower USB versions was renamed to USB 2.0 or something like that to make it more marketable when the higher speed USB 2 came out. I think one is called "fast USB2" and the other "high-speed USB

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Christian
Quite honestly Shel, as much as I've respected you over the years, I am repulsed by this photograph. Not by the subject, framing, or technical details, but by the very fact that this sort of photography is akin to voyeurism. If you told us that she gave you permission to photograph her, I wouldn'

Vs: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Raimo Korhonen
This is social documentary. Totally acceptable, in the right context even highly commendable. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I think you missed the point. I didn't judge her, but, rather, looked at the various possibilities that may have existed in her life, and in mine, as well. It was musing, not judging ... exploring possibilities. I believe we can all agree that a photograph should make the viewer think. Should i

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> > But, coming back to this picture, is it the unflattering portrayal that > bothers you the most, or that the photo was taken without permission? Had > this photo been of a beautiful woman, in a more flattering situation, but > still taken in the same manner, would you feel the same way? How w

Re: How hard is it to change a K-mount/

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
Mark Roberts writes: >It's very easy to do: Only 5 screws. But if you use the mount from an >M50/1.7 (or any other K/M lens) you'll lose matrix metering due to the >lack of aperture contacts. With a bit of modification you can work >around that, though. I wrote: >Being an 'A' lens, there are non

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread William Johnson
Hey Shel, welcome back! I think the best argument for taking this picture is that you generally cannot go back and recreate a missed opportunity. "Shoot first, ask questions later".Even if the questions are only to yourself regarding not only technical aspects but personal/moral aspects abou

Re: So what happens ...

2003-11-21 Thread mike wilson
Hi, In the case of the MZ-S, I understand that it was the software. m Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > ... when a modern Pentax body starts overlapping frames? > Is there a clutch in the take-up that begins to slip > or is it gears? > Just curious. > > CRB

Re: vinyl Was: RE: Digital/Film body pricing

2003-11-21 Thread Eactivist
Graywolf wrote: >We would hate the lack of tonality in digital prints. We would hate the over sharpened look of digital prints. Funny thing is most of us on this list think all those things I just listed are positive rather than negative features. Well they do say beauty (quality) is in the eye

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Good points, Christian ... but let me ask this: Is it a more honest > portrayal of > a subject when they know they are going to be photographed and start > "performing" for the camera? I suppose it could be in some situat

Re: vinyl Was: RE: Digital/Film body pricing

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> The funny thing here is I think we old folks need a better sound system then the > younger folks. Why? Well, I at least have a far harder time separating noise, so > the less noise the better the sound to my ears. Current consumer sound is: 1. > loud. 2. excessively bassy. 3. noisy. Current

Re: How hard is it to change a K-mount/

2003-11-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The instruction list was good. I'll just add some additional thoughts and concerns: 1. Move the lens OFF the "A" position. Otherwise you risk having the "A" pin fly away. 2. The yellow Stanley set available @ your local Wal-Mart hardware department has one Philips that's a perfect fit for the s

RE: vinyl Was: RE: Digital/Film body pricing

2003-11-21 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Many of us don't use over-saturated films (e.g. shooting > Provia, not Velvia). > And while the tonal qualities of a digital black-and-white > print aren't a match > for even a reasonable-quality chemical print, it's

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Mat Maessen
Do all "portraits" have to be attractive to be good portraits? Most certainly not. The portrait is entirely what the photographer wants it to be. The classic example that I use is Richard Avedon's portraits of his father. As one critic described it, he "murdered his own father with the camera."

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, Your comments are quite helpful and well thought out. Actually, there is no "title" to the photo other than the "working" title so I could recognize it on the hard disk. Had I been completely comfortable with the photograph, and my taking it, it would have probably had a real title, and been

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure some will ... but: I thought it was okay to take pictures in a public place and use them in publications without any permission from the subject. Of course MacChicken or Captain's Cook, or wherever it was, is not a public place, or is it? To take pictures in a

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >My question to the list: Should this photo have been taken? Do you >think it is overly critical of the subject or sympathetic, or perhaps >judgmental? Maybe I'm being critical of myself, using the photo to work >through or better understand my own situ

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's a great shot. An interesting composition and compelling subject matter. However, I would be afraid of angering and hurting the subject. if I was caught taking it surreptitiously. I doubt if I would have the nerve to ask her to pose. She almost surely would say no. If I thought I could shoot i

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John ... My purpose for showing this photograph here and at this time is to work through some issues about the purpose of my photography as well as some personal issues. However, when the photograph presented itself to me, those thoughts did not cross my mind. I saw something in the scene tha

RE: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Bob Blakely
1. It is never immoral and should never be illegal to freeze an instant (any instant) in time of any one or thing seen in a public place. There is clearly no expectation of privacy in the public arena. 2. The presentation of truth clearly available to the public is never immoral. It is s

Re: Is this a fungal infection? [Was: Re: Is this a Vivitar?]

2003-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
> > > Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Paul. Would you remember what you paid for it? > > > > I believe it was $60 the last time I had it done. This was on a Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro.

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> > Correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure some will ... but: > > I thought it was okay to take pictures in a public place and use them in > publications without any permission from the subject. Of course MacChicken > or Captain's Cook, or wherever it was, is not a public place, or is it? To > take

RE: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread tom
I love it when Bob wakes up. tv > -Original Message- > From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 1.It is never immoral and should never be illegal to > freeze an instant (any > instant) in time of any one or thing seen in a public > place. There is > clearly no expectation

RE: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > My question to the list: Should this photo have been taken? Yes. At least there's nothing to prevent you from taking it. I personally have no issue with sneaked shots. It's been done as long as there have been c

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Social commentary as Raimo said. Perfectly acceptable. I find it an >interesting photograph. I am not repulsed. I am not repulsed by fatties, Marnie you *fatist* !!! LOL. >I've always wondered about that, actually, how does a photographer track down

Re: How hard is it to change a K-mount/

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >The subject says it all, but here's why! I just got a Pentax A70-210/4 zoom >in excellent condition (for A$110), except for the mount, which has some >rough patches where various people have abused it. What are the pitfalls >(and is it practical) in tak

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Bob Blakely wrote: 9.I bet that's a diet drink she has there - or perhaps a new prescription for her glasses. "May I take your order, miss?" "Yes, I'll have a double cheeseburger, a large fry, with a diet coke." "Would you like that order "value sized"? "Sure, why not..." Only in the good o

Flash AF360FGZ works in TTL-mode on the LX and 645

2003-11-21 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo, on the www.photozone.de Alexander gave a link to the german pentax side with a flash overview: http://www.pentax.de/mediapool/attachments/photo/100/106/97229/Blitzuebersic ht.pdf There it was shown, that the AF360FGZ will work in TTL-mode with the LX, Super A and 645 I tested it and now

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, if y'want to publish a photo from years before, and y'can't find the subject, and a release is required, whadday do? Fake the release? Cotty wrote: > > >I've always wondered about that, actually, how does a photographer track > down > >people they may have shot years ago? > > You can't. > >

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
While I wasn't right out in the open, she did see me photographing the area while she was ordering her meal. In fact, we even spoke briefly ... nothing of any consequence, just a few words about ordering at the window. So, while I didn't ask permission to take the shot, and I didn't stick the cam

Re: and now me - 011101100... + Q

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >(including airline travel; my cameras go in checked baggage). ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Art isn't always beautiful. But it should always make you think... > >-Mat Couldn't have put it better! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Ma

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Mat Maessen
A good photograph always reveals something about the photographer. A REALLY good photograph reveals it without the photographer, or sometimes even the viewer, realizing it. -Mat Shel Belinkoff wrote: After viewing the photograph I realized that I was also confronting some of my own demons and lo

carry-on regs for photographers

2003-11-21 Thread tom
FYI, the TSA has made a change in the regs: http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1248.xml -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.thomasvanveen.com 301-758-3085

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
You don't use a photo without release for any commercial purpose. You can lose your happy home. The stock house I work with won't accept any people shots without detailed releases. And in special cases, such as with shots that depict alcohol or tobacco use, the release has to specify how the person

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Dag T
På 21. nov. 2003 kl. 19.57 skrev Dr E D F Williams: Correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure some will ... but: I thought it was okay to take pictures in a public place and use them in publications without any permission from the subject. Of course MacChicken or Captain's Cook, or wherever it was,

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Eactivist
Cotty wrote: >Marnie you *fatist* !!! LOL. I'm overweight myself, so how could I be. ;-) Not way overweight, but in mine own eyes I am fat. Marnie aka Doe

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Eactivist
Shel wrote: >Ann Sanfedele and I have been having that discussion for a year or so And, of course, how does one qualify or quantify what's attractive? eXactly. Just relabel it from "big eater" to something else, because big eater is a value judgment and an assumption on your part. In her own w

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread graywolf
Well, it is a good street shot. It has atmosphere. It says something about contemporary life. It in itself is not derogatory of the subject. The viewer's personal biases are not the photographer's concern (except the photographer's personal biases to himself, in this particular case). -- Shel

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Years ago I overheard this comment while passing a couple of people talking in the street: "There was no such thing as ugly until people tried to become beautiful." shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And, of course, how does one qualify or quantify what's attractive? > > In her own way she is

Re: How hard is it to change a K-mount/

2003-11-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
If you replace the A mount with the M mount the A pin will have to be removed. To do that ... 1. put the lens on "A" 2. Remove the mount slowly. 3. You should be able to pick up the pin assembly with a magnet and place it into a ziplock for storage until regaining your senses. CRB

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Lewis Matthew
From: Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The classic example that I use is Richard Avedon's portraits of his father. As one critic described it, he "murdered his own father with the camera." Then it is apparent that the 'critic' didn't read the text that went with the photographs. Lewis ___

Re: vinyl Was: RE: Digital/Film body pricing

2003-11-21 Thread Eactivist
John Francis wrote: >Many of us don't use over-saturated films (e.g. shooting Provia, not Velvia). And while the tonal qualities of a digital black-and-white print aren't a match for even a reasonable-quality chemical print, it's a lot closer for colour; the price of a top-quality colour print is

RE: vinyl Was: RE: Digital/Film body pricing

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Brogden
So now we're cheap because we choose not to spend $20K on a sound system? Ok, this is where I bow out of this thread. chris On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > You guys need to go listen to some vinyl on a $20K > system. If you cant hear the difference between > that and a $2K syste

Re: Basketball on film

2003-11-21 Thread Butch Black
Hi Boris The exposure was good, it was in focus with no motion blur. It did strike me as being a little too static for my tastes. It almost looked like the game was over and everyone was trying to decide where to go for a beer. I would try to catch more of a sense of action, If you time it for pea

Re: and now me - 011101100... + Q

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> > On 21/11/03, "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >(including airline travel; my cameras go in checked baggage). > > ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > > > > You sir, are completely bonkers. You try getting a 70-lb camera bag into carry-on sometime. Heck, that's above the weight limit f

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Lewis Matthew
None of the above. A photograph cannot be critical or subjective or judgmental. Only the viewer harbours those abilities. Cheers, Cotty Exactly. The photograph is an image. The image invokes a viewer response. Ignoring any legal question, morality is in the mind of the viewer. Should Shel hav

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Brogden
I don't have a problem with the photo's being taken. Shoot now, edit later. It does come across as judgmental to me because of the context. Had you shot a thin woman in a diner, or a fat woman playing with her kids or petting a dog, it would be different. Juxtaposing a grossly overweight person

RE: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >So, how did you sneak it? Did you actually hide the camera or did you >do the old "I'm just checking the dials, oops, I shot off a frame, I >wish I knew how this thing worked" routine? Damn, I thought i was the only one. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Paul
I think the photo itself is fine, the thing that urks me is the title "Big Eater" i think this degrades both the photo and subject.

Re: carry-on regs for photographers

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> > FYI, the TSA has made a change in the regs: > > http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1248.xml Well, yes. But the additional bag still has to comply with the weight and size restrictions for carry-on baggage. It's rather hard for me to carry my 250-600 that way. So my choi

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >So, if y'want to publish a photo from years before, and y'can't find the >subject, and a release is required, whadday do? Fake the release? When is a release required? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Butch Black
My 2¢ worth I'm uncomfortable with it, it begs too many questions. The coke bottle eyeglasses makes me wonder if there is an underlying medical problem, or possibly a mental problem. This also brings up the whole question: is street photography "art" and if so does that give the photographer the

Beef stew

2003-11-21 Thread Butch Black
All this talk of beef stew made me want some. I've got the beef simmering now. Anybody else making stew this week ? Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >You don't use a photo without release for any commercial purpose. You can lose >your happy home. The stock house I work with won't accept any people shots >without detailed releases. And in special cases, such as with shots that >depict alcohol or tobacco

RE: Beef stew

2003-11-21 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > All this talk of beef stew made me want some. I've got the > beef simmering > now. Anybody else making stew this week ? > > Butch > I'm doing chicken and dumplings sunday. tv

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Mat Maessen
I think, taken in context, that the critic's comment was more intended to convey the mood that Avedon made in the portraits, which made no pretense that his father was, quite literally, wasting away. Definitely an unflattering portrayal of the subject, but still a portrait, nonetheless. -Mat (g

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Dave Miers
> >So, if y'want to publish a photo from years before, and y'can't find the > >subject, and a release is required, whadday do? Fake the release? If you publish and get sued it's bad enough! If you fake the release, you may well have committed fraud and wind up behing bars even!

Re: carry-on regs for photographers

2003-11-21 Thread Keith Whaley
John Francis wrote: > > > > > FYI, the TSA has made a change in the regs: > > > > http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1248.xml > > Well, yes. But the additional bag still has to comply with the > weight and size restrictions for carry-on baggage. It's rather > hard for me t

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
A release is required when the photo is used for commercial purposes. The most common example would be for advertising use. If you intend to capitalize on someone's image, you must have their permission. On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Cotty wrote: On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disg

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Street photography is most certainly art. The street photographer must recognize a worthy image in a matter of seconds and act immediately. I've blown so many great photos, it makes me cry. I don't think there's any greater measure of photographic skill than that of capturing the moment as it h

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And what might the thickness of one's glasses have to do with a person's mental state? If thick glasses may indicate mental problems, perhaps a blind person should be institutionalized or given a lobotomy, as their mental problems may be far greater, and people wearing contact lenses might just ne

Re: The morality of taking a photograph

2003-11-21 Thread ernreed2
Graywolf posted: > What bothers me, Shel is the judgments you expressed about the woman. Without > them it is just a photo of her. With them it is a serious put down. This is the > thing one has to watch for using such photos editorially. If you imply, much > less say something (in this case th

Re: carry-on regs for photographers

2003-11-21 Thread Otis Wright
Keith Whaley wrote: John Francis wrote: FYI, the TSA has made a change in the regs: http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1248.xml Well, yes. But the additional bag still has to comply with the weight and size restrictions for carry-on baggage. It's rather hard for

Re: and now me - 011101100... + Q

2003-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >You try getting a 70-lb camera bag into carry-on sometime. > >Heck, that's above the weight limit for *checked* baggage on >some airlines - I've had to pay excess baggage a few times. > >These things are tools, not pets. They have a nice Pelican >case to

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