RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Yes I misread that one. Most likely because its A double negative. Most satisfactory would have Have been just as easy but you don't want you Use anything but the term unsatisfactory in your posts on the Issue of course. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

My manner on the deal wasn't questionable Either, People should not think because Of the rude stuff posted this week means That old ebay deal was handled in same Manner, it WASN'T. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

HOW many times do I have to rebut this? I wasn't Rude to him in the emails, He didn't email me Any complaint until well after he got it and I Told him that is not acceptable behavior because Its too easy for someone to damage an item and Then claim it came that way and he freaked out Saying I acc

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Screw you, he may not have been satisfied But If I did the very best any seller can Do which is offer a full reversal of the Deal and let him buy another one elsewhere Than he really has no right to be unsatisfied. I cant guarantee him or any other psycho Is going to be satisfied ( He was expecti

Re: Your first camera

> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/25 Wed PM 11:06:01 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Your first camera > > mike wilson wrote: > > >Being good with colours and having high spatial awareness would be > prime > >attributes of a good hunter. > > Intere

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Look I really don't care if anyone on the list buys Stuff from me, what got me so upset is that its A personal attack on my character to say my ebay Selling is in anyway unfair to anyone. That's my Point in the whole matter. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: Your first camera

Op Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:02:00 +0200 schreef mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/10/25 Wed PM 11:06:01 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Your first camera >> >> mike wilson wrote: >> >> >Being good with colours and having high

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

> > From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It's happening as we speak. Camera shops are closing all over the US, > according to one of the last industry newsletters I saw before being laid > off, and even big chains like Ritz/Wolf are closing dozens of stores. > People are treating came

Re: USA tour 2004 now online

> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 02:53:50 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: USA tour 2004 now online > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Wednesday, Octob

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

> > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 01:15:02 GMT > But you are ever the contrarian, Is that similar to, but not exactly like, a libertarian? I get so confused by US politics. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Viru

GESO: USA southern tour, 2005

Another long due travel gallery, from a trip I made in October 2005 from Washington DC, to the west and south. http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=12 Traveling through Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West-Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennesse

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On 26/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: >Look I really don't care if anyone on the list buys >Stuff from me, what got me so upset is that its >A personal attack on my character to say my ebay >Selling is in anyway unfair to anyone. That's my >Point in the whole matter. I wouldn'

Re: Your first camera

> > From: Lucas Rijnders (Privé) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 08:09:24 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Your first camera > > Op Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:02:00 +0200 schreef mike wilson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> D

Re: OT: Snowflake

John Celio wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Snowflake_300um_LTSEM,_13368.jpg > > Now, when do you think Pentax will come out with a macro lens that can do > that? [...] Hi John, This is on the order of "Hey! You brought it up!" ;-) Starting with the site above, which really whett

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:30:55 +0100, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I misread that one. Most likely because its > A double negative. Most satisfactory would have > Have been just as easy but you don't want you > Use anything but the term unsatisfactory in your > posts on the Iss

Re: OT: Snowflake

On 25/10/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Snowflake_300um_LTSEM,_13368.jpg > >Now, when do you think Pentax will come out with a macro lens that can do >that? That is astonishing. I'm an atheist but it's difficult to look at that photo and not perce

Re: the LX wink...

> > From: SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 04:43:46 GMT > To: PDML > Subject: the LX wink... > > ok, since i am still a stranger to pentax lore and pdml humour, what > exactly is the story around the lx wink? > > i have read around, about the sticky mirror thingy, about the ca

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:04:00 +0100, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 01:15:02 GMT > >> But you are ever the contrarian, > > Is that similar to, but not exactly like, a libertarian? I get so > confused by US po

Re: The JCO survey

The irony is that everytime somebody asks people to stop adding to the thread, they are themselves adding to it. If you don't want others to post, take your own advice! John On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:14:46 +0100, Peter Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know the words "Cotty " and "understa

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

On 25/10/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >One other time, the owner had a customer who wanted some advice on >digital cameras so he could make a more intelligent purchasing decision >in the Internet. Yes, he actually said that to the owner's face as if >there was nothing unusual

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

> > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 08:50:02 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:04:00 +0100, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >> > >> From: "John F

Re: the LX wink...

On 26/10/06, SJ, discombobulated, unleashed: >ok, since i am still a stranger to pentax lore and pdml humour, what >exactly is the story around the lx wink? > >i have read around, about the sticky mirror thingy, about the camera's >'pro' aspirations which didn't quite materialise...but i still ca

Re: The JCO survey

On 26/10/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: >The irony is that everytime somebody asks people to stop adding to the >thread, they are themselves adding to it. > >If you don't want others to post, take your own advice! Right. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Pl

Re: OT: Snowflake

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:42:35 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25/10/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Snowflake_300um_LTSEM,_13368.jpg >> >> Now, when do you think Pentax will come out with a macro lens that can >> do >> that? > > Tha

Re: the LX wink...

hi mike, thanks. i'll go ahead and get it. i want the wink... now :) regards, subash On 10/26/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The LX has more than one feature that is unusual. Together in one body, the > result is a unique photographic device. You could say this about many > ca

Re: the LX wink...

thanks cotty...i join the previleged few in about three hours and twenty minutes, when i get off the desk... :)) regards, subash On 10/26/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subers dear chap. > The LX wink. Well, let's just saythat it's the very quiet > satisfaction you get with owning

Re: OT: Snowflake

I can't even put that photo into perspective. To me it looks like a piece of machinery. I can't reconcile that with a snowflake - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:42 PM Subject: Re: OT: Snowflake > On 25/10/06, J

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:09:00 +0100, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 08:50:02 GMT >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey >> >> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:04

Re: OT: Snowflake

Op Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:27:08 +0200 schreef J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > - Original Message - > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "pentax list" > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:42 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Snowflake > >> On 25/10/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashe

Re: the LX wink...

Welcome to the brethren (even if a bit early). I've rather enjoyed mine over the past two years. --- SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks cotty...i join the previleged few in about > three hours and > twenty minutes, when i get off the desk... :)) > > regards, subash > > On 10/26/06, Cotty <

Re: PESO - The empty stool

I agree. Well seen. That's a shot that many would of missed. Great work. Paul On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:44 PM, William Robb wrote: >> http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc16e.htm >> > > Excellent picture Dario. > > William Robb > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.n

Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

When my K10D finally arrives, I'm trying to decide which lens to get with it. My ist DL came with the Sigma 18-50, so the bar has been set pretty low. I gather the Pentax 18-55 is quite a bit better. My question is, is the Pentax 16-45 a big enough improvement over the 18-55 to warrent the ex

Re: the LX wink...

hi jon, thanks. it may be take a couple of days to actually lay my hands on the thing but, after reading so much about it (there is quite a bit on the Net too), i am looking forward to it... regards, subash On 10/26/06, Jon Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to the brethren (even if a bi

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

> > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu AM 09:45:32 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:09:00 +0100, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >> > >> From: "John F

RE: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I think the answer really depends on what you photograph, the size prints you make (if you even make prints), and your personal standards. I've used both, although the 18-55 for only a few hours at the most. I had a 16-45 for about a month. The 18-55 is a very good value, and a better, if not a

Re: OT Travelling heads-up

We didn't have much of a problem leaving Athens for the US. There were about three layers of security, ending with a thorough hand-check of all hand baggage at the gate. They were very strict about the no liquids rule, although Nate and I were able to bring little bottles of contact lens solution o

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I know it's only 2 mm but I moved from the 18-55 to the 16-45 because of them. and because of constant praise from many on the list for the quality of the 16-45. I have to say I haven't been disappointed but, then again, the 18-55 took good photos too. So, if you don't need those extra 2 m

FS: Pentax SMCP-DA 14mm f/2.8 IF

I'm selling a lens that I love, but in fact have rarely found use for in my amateur needs, and have only used it twice: Pentax super wide angle 14mm f/2.8 ED IF. It's in perfect condition, includes soft case, front and rear caps, hood, and 77 mm UV filter, which I put on the lens the day I

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Cotty wrote: > XXX may be a nutty distant cousin to the devil, but YYY is no angel > IMO. Come on folks, what kind of crap is that. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:38:07 +0100, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When my K10D finally arrives, I'm trying to decide which lens to get > with > it. Which lens? Singular? You're on the wrong list. Come back when you have at least twenty. :-) But to answer your question,

Ashot Jegikjan: surrealists

http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061026131233 A portrait of Ashot, street artist who paints surreal... -- new photos ever so often... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

Having owned both at one point (I currently have the 16-45), the 16-45 is certainly worth the extra cost. While the 18-55 is a good little lens, and rather well built for a kit lens, the 16-45 has it beat in useful range (That extra 2mm at the wide end really shows, the missing 10 at the long e

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

I remembered your total refund offer, I just didn't recall that you offered postage as well. But that doesn't change the way you communicated with me, and that's the real issue here - your rude and abusive method of communicating, that you accused me of damaging the lens, and that dealing with you

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote: > They had money to burn, but the > way I saw it, they were too greedy to pay for the services I/we provided. How many of them used the service? How many had already done the research, asked for specific items then asked to pay? > wanted to punch them in t

Re: OT: Snowflake

keith_w wrote: > "Information gained from studying the structure of snow is vital to > several areas of science as well as to activities that affect our daily > lives..." > > To me, most curious! > WHY is it so "vital" we study the structure of snow? > Does anyone know of a 'primer' that I can

Re: OT Travelling heads-up

I flew to New York by Pan-Am the day before the same flight was blown up over Lockerbie. On my return (the flight was almost empty), security had been beefed up: "What's in that bag?" "Cameras" "Oh, that's fine." Presumably I have an honest face, and the security woman thought I would admi

Re: Price of K10D in Oz

On Thursday 26 October 2006 03:31, David Savage wrote: > At 04:53 AM 26/10/2006, Frits Wüthrich wrote: > >On Wednesday 25 October 2006 14:41, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > This is great news! Pentax has really outdone itself this time, > > > providing a large focal range zoom without the need for a

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey > > Perhaps our intellectual capabilities are rather different, but I > don't > think a double negative is a very difficult concept to grasp. The > fact is > that the deal was un

Punctuation

Recently a few messages here "discussed" the value of using good punctuation and grammar in email messages. One of the participants made comments to the effect that communication via email and on message boards and mail lists was not important enough for him to take the time to add apostrophes and

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Let it go. Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I remembered your total refund offer, I just didn't recall that you offered > postage as well. But that doesn't change the way you communicated with me, > and that's the real issue here - your rude and abusive method of > communicating, that you accused

RE: PESO - Monarch

Thanks, Paul The only real complaint I have with the Tamron 28-300 is the f6.3 on the long end. So far it's been a good all around lens for shooting from the wheelchair. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

Cotty wrote: >I am in the process of considering the purchase of an expensive lens, >with a choice of two similar types, at similar prices.. I was in London >and popped into a Canon dealer near the British Museum. When I inquired, >the best the salesman would do is show me prints from the lenses (

Re: OT Travelling heads-up

> > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu PM 12:03:25 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: OT Travelling heads-up > > I flew to New York by Pan-Am the day before the same flight was blown up > over Lockerbie. > > On my return (the flight was almost emp

Re: FS: Pentax SMCP-DA 14mm f/2.8 IF

James M should be looking at this ... Can't think of a better starting point for an ultra-wide on the K10D. Godfrey On Oct 26, 2006, at 4:36 AM, Micah Kleit wrote: > I'm selling a lens that I love, but in fact have rarely found use for > in my amateur needs, and have only used it twice: Pentax

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Butt out. Stop slanderiing me with no evidence Whatsover on the matter other than The other partied self admitted incomplete Memory of the resolution. You were not involved and have no Right to be continuing with this Nonsense based on your incorrect "hunches". JCO -Original Message- F

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

I'm lucky in that there are no less than four or five decent photo equipment vendors within a 50 mile radius of my apartment, the nearest two of whom are less than 15 minutes away. I try to buy from them first whenever I'm looking for equipment as I believe in supporting local business as m

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

You've been carping on about this for a couple of day's now in a public forum. If you don't want people to comment, take it off list. Dave On 10/26/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Butt out. > > Stop slanderiing me with no evidence > Whatsover on the matter other than > The other

Re: Punctuation

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Recently a few messages here "discussed" the value of using good > punctuation and grammar in email messages. One of the participants made > comments to the effect that communication via email and on message boards > and mail lists was not important enough for him to take t

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:38 AM, J and K Messervy wrote: > When my K10D finally arrives, I'm trying to decide which lens to > get with > it. Go classic: the DA21 Limited or FA35/2 AL would be perfect. Heck with zooms. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: Punctuation

I can see the immediate merit of proper grammar and punctuation... But then of course the precise reason why that very comma was interpreted in that very way in the article you posted totally escapes me. Probably some commas should have been inserted in the previous message ;-). Thanks! On 10/26

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

It's fairly easy to understand, Kostas, and it isn't crap. And Cotty isn't "folks", he's Cotty. As English presumably isn't your first language, I am sure you will not mind me pointing out that a final "s" usually denotes a plural. As "folk" is a collective noun, it is impossible to address

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

And what is exactly wrong with a TOTAL REFUND including all shipping costs In the event of a dispute? If he wasn't happy with the lens he Didn't have to keep it but he did. No, no one likes to return things but When the return reason is questionable ( He expected "PERFECT" lens when it was not l

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

I WAS INVOLVED. Y O U W E R E N ' T ! Its pure specualtive BS coming from you & At my expense. That's wrong. BUTT OUT! J C O -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Well the TOTAL refund INCLUDING postage Costs both ways is as good as it gets In the event of a dispute as it's a FULL Reveral of the purchase which about the Best possible policy ANYONE on ebay has In the event a dispute. Secondly, that lens had a very slight Loosenees of the front filter ring (n

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Whilst you persist in your unpleasant posts, I shall persist, when I feel like it, to post in response, you impertinent guttersnipe. And since you are posting to a public forum, I have EVERY right to comment. And finally, which of my so-called hunches were incorrect? If you can demonstrate t

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Dear John O'Connell, If you want people to do something, try asking them politely. It usually works. Best wishes John On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:11:44 +0100, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I WAS INVOLVED. > > Y O U W E R E N ' T ! > > Its pure specualtive BS coming from you

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

Or maybe the 20-35? Some people here seem to like it Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Go classic: the DA21 Limited or FA35/2 AL would be perfect. > Heck with zooms. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Or maybe the 20-35? Some people here seem to like it > >> Go classic: the DA21 Limited or FA35/2 AL would be perfect. >> Heck with zooms. ;-) LOL ... You're evil, Shel. And I mean that in the nicest way. ];-) Yes, the FA20-35 would defin

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

STOP with this nonsense. That matter Was between me and the other party And it was NOT handled rudely or unfairly. You keep seeming to make implications That the other party must have been right Based on my other recent unrelated posts And that is NOT the case. jco -Original Message- From:

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I can't comment on the 18-55, but the 16-45 is not bad for a zoom lens. I tend to prefer primes myself. I agree with Godfrey, go the prime lens route. Dave On 10/26/06, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When my K10D finally arrives, I'm trying to decide which lens to get with > it.

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

You arrogant sod. Which part of: "If you don't want people to comment, take it off list." ...don't you understand? By airing this in public you've made it a topic free for anyone to comment on. Oh and by the way, what exactly was I speculating on in my last message? Dave On 10/26/06, J. C. O

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Give Kostas a break. He's good people. ;) On 10/26/06, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's fairly easy to understand, Kostas, and it isn't crap. > > And Cotty isn't "folks", he's Cotty. As English presumably isn't your > first language, I am sure you will not mind me pointing out that

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I've been happy with the 18-55 (granted, my eyes aren't as critical as some). For superwide, I'm saving for a DA12-24. When looking for top quality, I flip over to the FA28 & F50 primes. dk On 10/26/06, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When my K10D finally arrives, I'm trying to de

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

If you want this to stop, then stop posting yourself. It's quite simple. John On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:51:30 +0100, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > STOP with this nonsense. That matter > Was between me and the other party > And it was NOT handled rudely or unfairly. > You keep seem

Metz 32CT4 & ist DS

Hi gang... I need a reasonably powerful flash to pair with my *ist DS for shooting an event at my daughter's school, and a friend has been kind enough to loan me his Metz 32CT4. He mentioned the possibility of a dedicated module for Pentax, but the research I've done indicates that this works

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:02:55 +0100, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give Kostas a break. He's good people. ;) Don't you mean Kosta? John > > On 10/26/06, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's fairly easy to understand, Kostas, and it isn't crap. >> >> And Cotty isn't "f

Re: Punctuation

True. IMO your paragraph should have read: > Recently, a few messages here "discussed" the value of using good > punctuation and grammar in email messages. One of the participants made > comments to the effect that communication via email, message boards, > and mail lists was not important e

Re Punctuation

Recently a few messages here "discussed" the value of using good punctuation and grammar in email messages. One of the participants made comments to the effect that communication via email and on message boards and mail lists was not important enough for him to take the time to add apostrophes a

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I got the 16-45 in a kit with the D. It's a great lens. Almost as good as primes. Later I got the 18-55 for a bargain price and now I find myself walking around with the 18-55 because it's also an excellent lens and it's much smaller. And last but not least because I can use the popup flash without

Idea for new list: PRML

Doug, How about setting up another mailing list? It would be called the PRML (Pentax Rant Mailing List). We could discuss Pentax photography stuff on the PDML list and move the J.C. baiting and his abusive responses over to the PRML. As a (mostly) reformed J.C. baiter (I got into it with hi

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

On Oct 25, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > This is bad, but it also compunds itself when the salesperson becomes > wary of that. A couple of times, I felt the loss of interest of people > at places like K&S in Palo Alto or Gassers in San Franciso, as soon as > they realize I'm not going to

Re: Metz 32CT4 & ist DS

On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Timothy Sherburne wrote: > I need a reasonably powerful flash to pair with my *ist DS for > shooting > an event at my daughter's school, and a friend has been kind enough to > loan me his Metz 32CT4. He mentioned the possibility of a dedicated > module for Pentax, b

Re: Re Punctuation

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:50:30 +0100, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...now we should return to discussing either jco or the swiss navy. JCO and the Swiss Navy. Both equally improbable. But both, apparently, exist. The truth is indeed stranger than fiction. John -- Using Ope

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I have two quibbles with the 16-45: First, it is both bigger and heavier than the 24-90, which was plenty big and heavy for me (don't look for me to be carrying f/2.8 zooms around anytime soon!). Second, it zooms backwards: barrel is all the way in at 45mm, all the way out at 16mm. As Toine sai

Bullying a bully (WAS)RE: The JCO survey

Bill, as I read this post you basically claim to bully JCO in the name of a greater good. Indirectly you also claim JCO to bully simply because he is a dickhead (replace this with whatever abusive words you prefer). So you are good, and he is bad. Bill God. (Pardon my pun, but is so tempting to u

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Scott Loveless wrote: > Give Kostas a break. He's good people. ;) Thanks Scott. Forbes goes straight to /dev/null anyway. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Metz 32CT4 & ist DS

Thanks for the info, Godfrey. See comments below. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Timothy Sherburne wrote: > >> I need a reasonably powerful flash to pair with my *ist DS for >> shooting >> an event at my daughter's school, and a friend has been kind enough to >> loan me

Re: OT: Snowflake

So difficult that I tend to disbelieve the caption. Cotty wrote: > On 25/10/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Snowflake_300um_LTSEM,_13368.jpg >> >> Now, when do you think Pentax will come out with a macro lens that can do >> that? > > That is a

Re: Punctuation

It makes them separate clauses. If it said, renewed for five years or ... it would make it a choice. As it reads it can only be ended after each five year period if a one year notice is given. A clearer way of saying it would have been, "Will be automatically renewed for another five year perio

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

I don't want it to continue any longer but I am being forced to rebut the continuing Insinuations and falsehoods being post. He never should have posted it to the list And this wouldn't being happening if he Didn't. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] O

Re: Your first camera

Those two mushrooms look exactly the same in black & white . mike wilson wrote: >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/10/25 Wed PM 11:06:01 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Your first camera >> >> mike wilson wrote: >> >>> Being good with colours and having h

Re: Punctuation

hey whats the big deal ee cummings did it years ago with his poetry and became known for it whts next a discushun ov fonetic speling im going bak to luk at snoflaks oops r the < nd > kunsidrd punktooashun mitch Shel Belinkoff wrote: >Recently a few messages here "discussed" the value of using

RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

Listen ASSHOLE- my whole point of this Thread was that it never should have Been posted to the list. I am FORCED To respond because it was and in a very B.S. half-truth ( =lie ) manner. You are an idiot if you think I wanted Or like this topic but expect me to Just say nothing when attacked publica

Re: Punctuation

Hi! > It makes them separate clauses. If it said, renewed for five years or > ... it would make it a choice. As it reads it can only be ended after > each five year period if a one year notice is given. A clearer way of > saying it would have been, "Will be automatically renewed for another > five

Re: Pentax 16-45 vs 18-55

I actually like the extending zoom, as it allows you to shoot wide on the street without people realizing, as it looks like you're zoomed in to them. Dunno why you're complaining about the weight though, it's all of 10 grams heavier than the 24-90 (365 grams to the 24-90's 355g). It also focuse

Re: Metz 32CT4 & ist DS

On 10/26/06, Timothy Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I dug through the Metz website this morning and found a PDF that > describes camera body compatibility with legacy flashes. The DS and > 32CT4 are listed, and the SCA3702 and SCA3000C are needed to make them > work together. I have a

Re: Metz 32CT4 & ist DS

On Oct 26, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Timothy Sherburne wrote: > Yes, I dug through the Metz website this morning and found a PDF that > describes camera body compatibility with legacy flashes. The DS and > 32CT4 are listed, and the SCA3702 and SCA3000C are needed to make them > work together. > >

Re: Support your Local Camera Shop (was: Re: Price of K10D in Oz)

Absolutely amazing isn't it? The one advantage a local place may have over a mail order business, and they refuse to use it to their advantage. I possibly would have expected there to be a test sample of each lens that was purchased just for this reason. I've never had a problem with a busin

WG: [second try] K10D official prices in France

Sorry, a big misinformation from my side, there are still 26 ships left ;-) Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 19:00 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: AW: [second try] K10D official prices in France Hi

Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

On 10/26/06, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:02:55 +0100, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Give Kostas a break. He's good people. ;) > > Don't you mean Kosta? > Yes, Johns, that's exactly what I meant. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com

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