RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Bob W
Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder...    :-) A vision? A focus? What's the right collective noun for a group of working girls? Best I can think of is a a hustle of harlots. A brothel. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:01:13AM +0100, Bob W wrote: Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder... ? ?:-) A vision? A focus? What's the right collective noun for a group of working girls? Best I can think of is a a hustle of harlots. A brothel. Bob The usual

Re: PESO - The Greasy Spoon

2009-04-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/4/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed: Heh. I dropped my ing. Ha -last time I dropped my ing it splarshed all over the bloody binnacle, har. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Bob W
Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder... ? ?:-) A vision? A focus? What's the right collective noun for a group of working girls? Best I can think of is a a hustle of harlots. A brothel. Bob The usual tongue-in-cheek suggestion is a flourish of strumpets.

Re: PESO - The Accordion as a Social Tool

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Frank, praise any greater force of choice you didn't get a forró listener... that kind of music makes sense only for a very specific mindset. No, they can't stand Pink Floyd, think Yes is just an affirmative particle and wonder why Jimmy

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread David Savage
On 16/04/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder...:-) A vision? A focus? What's the right collective noun for a group of working girls? Best I can think of is a a hustle of harlots. A brothel. A bushel? DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Cathedral Ruins and Tower

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I like the composition, though it could do without the black blob at the upper left. Is the bilious green color authentic? On the Emerald Isle? Impossible, to be sure. If so, I'm glad they don't get that color here in England! Rick

Re: PESO - Down the Canal

2009-04-16 Thread Rick Womer
I would like to appeal the judge's ruling. This is actually one of a series of 13 exposures, beginning when the narrowboat appeared under the bridge and continuing until it was almost abreast of me. The walker and the bicyclist actually =were= together, and moving at the same speed (roughly

Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ...

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ... The negative reaction to Shel's critiques erupted after he said a photo was so bad that the poster should be ashamed for presenting it

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 15, 2009, at 16:08 , William Robb wrote: If we ever get a nice day that coincides with a day off, I might just take my herd of 50mm lenses out and see which one is the best. Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder...:-) A

Re: GES0: Mrs. Blackbird

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: This, apparently, merits the exclamation of boing! (or something similar) when it happens. Would you happen to know the derivation of the effect noise? I can follow the objection to universally centring things, but am having trouble figuring out

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/15/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the glass itself is superb. If we ever get a nice day that coincides with a day off, I might just take my herd of 50mm lenses out and see which one is the best. My money's on the

Re: How to test a 16-50

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Aha now I get it. A very small mirror would be the most accurate. I'm not sure. To me, a larger mirrow would seem to be indicated to average out any irrgularities in the wall. The size of the mirror would seem to be irrelevant regarding squaring the camera

Re: How to test a 16-50

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Aha now I get it. A very small mirror would be the most accurate. I'm not sure. To me, a larger mirrow would seem to be indicated to average out any irrgularities in the wall. The size of the mirror would seem to be irrelevant regarding squaring the camera

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/15 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: [snip] LF (AKA Wild Pagan of the Great White Kayak) Didn't you already have a canoe in the mail, or was that someone else? :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread David Savage
As long as it doesn't stop me from downloading pr0n I'm cool with it. DS 2009/4/16 27...@comcast.net: Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group.. Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Fungi. My very first peso :)

2009-04-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
I like the first one. -- MaritimTim On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:46 AM, James s...@eftel.net.au wrote: Easter trip to Bunya Mtns. Collected a Tick as well :( Wet and in the clouds most of the time. Comments  most welcome www.eftel.com.au/~james_bradford/peso.htm James -- PDML

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
Adam is absolutely right on this one. In fact, Europe is even more vulnerable to this than is USA because of its many national states. Okay, there's something called EU, but there are enough national interest in each of the member states to make a situation quite different from the US. I imagine

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder... ? ?:-) A vision? A focus? What's the right collective noun for a group of working girls? Best I can think of is a a hustle of harlots. A brothel. The usual tongue-in-cheek suggestion is a flourish of strumpets. Whose tongue? Whose

Re: PPG Activity?

2009-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
Haven't sent any since I got the 100th in, back in February. But I have a general observation. It seems to help the throughput each time someone start bitching about it at dpReview and PentaxForums. Apparently they are the largest pool of potential voters in the English speaking parts of the

Re: PPG Activity?

2009-04-16 Thread Jack Davis
Makes me wonder what's beyond this gallery. I still enjoy the sport of offering images, but the point of it all could stand refreshing. Jack --- On Thu, 4/16/09, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG Activity? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ...

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:59 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I don't see that here so much as you.  Certainly there are quite a few responses to stuff that run along the lines of nice pic! but these seem to be confined, in the main, to those posters who have created a niche or

OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Loveless
Allow me to revise my question, since I know at least of few of you use that iPhone thingy. What's it like when you leave the 3G network? -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:24:54AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: [on comparing 50mm lenses] My money's on the M50/2. Wouldn't that be a bitch if it were true? H. High build quality verus computerated optical design. Old but high QC

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Scott, As long as you don't use it, it works just fine...grin -- Bruce Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:33:10 AM, you wrote: SL Allow me to revise my question, since I know at least of few of you SL use that iPhone thingy. What's it like when you leave the 3G network? -- PDML

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread David Savage
For the love of gawd, don't become an iPhoner. Most mobile phone users are bad, stopping a real life conversation to take a call, but every one of my iPhone using friends have the worst phone etiquette. Constantly Facebooking, emailing generally being rude pricks. Oh, hang on it'd suit you fine

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well, the fact is I'm not hiding - since I was raised in a time when the BR military had the power to do almost anything I developed the habit of accepting everything I chose to speak, write or draw would be public. Never had any ideas of keeping conversations, letters or expressions under

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/16/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: For the love of gawd, don't become an iPhoner. Most mobile phone users are bad, stopping a real life conversation to take a call, but every one of my iPhone using friends have the worst phone etiquette. Constantly Facebooking, emailing

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Jostein, I have a white kayak here and I do have a canoe in my wife's hometown - home built canoe, lots of patches and presently leaking. There should be others. LF AlunFoto escreveu: 2009/4/15 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: [snip] LF (AKA Wild Pagan of the Great White Kayak)

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread David Savage
2009/4/16 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com: On 4/16/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: For the love of gawd, don't become an iPhoner.  Most mobile phone users are bad, stopping a real life conversation to  take a call, but every one of my iPhone using friends have the worst  phone

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 16, 2009, at 6:33 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Allow me to revise my question, since I know at least of few of you use that iPhone thingy. What's it like when you leave the 3G network? If you don't have access to a 3G network, it just does network operations more slowly using EDGE.

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 4/16/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: ... Oh, hang on it'd suit you fine then. Up yours, Savage. :) (I can make smileys, too, you wanker.) You can feel the love... ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Peso - Ol' No. 2

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: 1932 Chevrolet firetruck from an antique show a couple summers ago. http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm *http://tinyurl.com/d3h965* Tamron 28-...@100mm ISO 400 1/1...@f8 Faded, rotated

Re: PESO - Down the Canal

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Brewer
Rick Womer wrote: I would like to appeal the judge's ruling. This is actually one of a series of 13 exposures, beginning when the narrowboat appeared under the bridge and continuing until it was almost abreast of me. The walker and the bicyclist actually =were= together, and moving at the

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/16/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: If you don't have access to a 3G network, it just does network operations more slowly using EDGE. If you're in range of an 802.11 network, it does network things very quickly over that instead. That's what I'm interested in. Is more slowly

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread mike wilson
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:24:54AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: [on comparing 50mm lenses] My money's on the M50/2. Wouldn't that be a bitch if it were true? H. High build quality verus

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 03:38:13PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:24:54AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: H. High build quality verus computerated optical design. Old but high QC versus new and unknown. Really hard to

SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
This significant SMC coatings improvements over the years myth needs debunking. Original uncoated lenses ( pre WWI era ) reflected about 5% of the light on each air glass surface. Single coating introduced in the 1940's which was very noticably better got that reflection down to about 1% per air

Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ...

2009-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Hey bunny ears, who's opinion you calling a pile of hooey!!! Bob S. :-) On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:27 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:59 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I don't see that here so much as you.  Certainly there are

RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
Are you trying to imply that Pentax and other major brand multicoated lenses have not been wideband color neutral across the entire VISIBLE spectrum until these DA coatings came along? That seems unlikely to me. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From:

Re: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:48:55AM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: NO, I am not saying that improved SMC coatings may never give any visible flare performance over the original SMC coatings of 1971, but it is only going to be visible on really high element count lenses if at all, certainly not on

Re: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/16/09, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:48:55AM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: NO, I am not saying that improved SMC coatings may never give any visible flare performance over the original SMC coatings of 1971, but it is only going to be visible on really

Re: Peso - Ol' No. 2

2009-04-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 16, 2009, at 9:26, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: 1932 Chevrolet firetruck from an antique show a couple summers ago. http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm *http://tinyurl.com/d3h965*

Re: PPG Activity?

2009-04-16 Thread Bong Manayon
Okay...2 photos in a batch of 3 just got declined...one is hanging in there. ... On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Makes me wonder what's beyond this gallery. I still enjoy the sport of offering images, but the point of it all could stand refreshing.

RE: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55*55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
Hi, the coating performance measurement is not SYSTEM because system performance varies depending on the number of air glass surfaces. The number I quoted for original 1971 SMC coatings was complete and correct, 99.8% transmission per air-glass surface. Do you have any data on the

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:55:13AM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: Are you trying to imply that Pentax and other major brand multicoated lenses have not been wideband color neutral across the entire VISIBLE spectrum until these DA coatings came along? That seems unlikely to me. [what is with the

PESO: Another

2009-04-16 Thread Jack Davis
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=408 Re-shot when sun at better angle.(?) Have no further plans for this picother than eventual deletion. Comments welcome. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 16, 2009, at 9:37, Scott Loveless wrote: On 4/16/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: If you don't have access to a 3G network, it just does network operations more slowly using EDGE. If you're in range of an 802.11 network, it does network things very quickly over that

Re: PPG Activity?

2009-04-16 Thread Jack Davis
Hang on, Bong!! J --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG Activity? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 8:06 AM Okay...2 photos in a batch of 3 just got declined...one

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Thibouille
Edga performance is OK, indeed. 3G I dunno because my iPhone v1, so no 3G. Wifi is quite fast (for a phone). A,d as far as Apps are concerned, the thing can be jailbroken anyway :D -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ...

RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
I think you are confusing measureable color errors vs. VISIBLE color errors which I did state in my other post. With regards to light transmission, the state of the art measuring techniques are much much better than the human eye. Just because you can measure a few percent difference in

RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
Also, just like the improvements in the original SMC coatings were measurable in all lenses with them, the improvements were not VISIBLE in all lenses that had them implemented. Measureable difference is not always a visible difference. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original

Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ...

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Hey bunny ears, who's opinion you calling a pile of hooey!!!  Bob S.   :-) Hey, I don't even know what hooey is. Is it even a bad thing? ;-) But seriously, I do agree that for a time after Shelgate there was a chill

Re: OT: Geordie customs

2009-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
Nah... She'd 'a been in like Flynn if she hadn't told the customs officer it was a business doing pleasure with 'im. From: Luiz Felipe ...guess being a foreigner makes some difference... UK citizens coming to BR in near future are better not to bring bikinis, only full body swimming suits...

Re: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone please fill Graydon in? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
Whether there are visible improvements in SMC coatings over the years since introduction in 1971 on various lenses and why or why not. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent:

RE: OT PESO - No Easter in W.A.

2009-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W G'day all, I spent Saturday Sunday of this Easter long weekend visiting the historical wheat belt town of York and came across this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3433730457_2f29e34b9b.jpg It made me smile, then chortle, then laugh maniacally. Probably why

Re: PESO: Another

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=408 Re-shot when sun at better angle.(?) Have no further plans for this picother than eventual deletion. Comments welcome. Interesting, but for me too harsh. I

Re: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original De: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 16 de abril, 2009 17:02:32 Asunto: Re: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up Would someone please fill Graydon in?

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:30:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: What I really don't understand is the need to pass such a bill in peacetime,. Do someone really see such an emergency coming up? === ? It isn't peace time here. We are still heavily

RE: PESO - South Park

2009-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer On my way home from work last week; flowering trees and the spires of Oxford in the background made a nice scene. I only wish I had put the polarizing filter on... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8945622size=lg (K10D and FA 50/1.7) Rick OMG! They killed Kenny!

Re: PESO - South Park

2009-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer On my way home from work last week; flowering trees and the spires of Oxford in the background made a nice scene. I only wish I had put the polarizing filter on... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8945622size=lg (K10D and FA 50/1.7) Rick Possibly a split ND filter

Re: PESO - The Accordion as a Social Tool

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: Sent this on to two friends of mine, both dedicated enough accordion players that they went to an accordion workshop. She's a darn good photographer too. Frightening, eh?  :-) Which is the frightening part, that she's

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread John Graves
Given what we have seen on the screen recently, it looks like we have at least one additional action, operation, or whatever off the horn of Africa. That wasn't someone's 60 footer out there patrolling off Somalia on a whim. These sailors leave their families, friends, and neighbors to

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Your credit card transactions at USA McDonald's are verified over the internet. If you shut it down, there would be a roar from consumers and businesses across the country. Think about no more plastic for purchases... Nonsense! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM,

Re: PESO: Another

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/16/2009 8:28:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=408 Re-shot when sun at better angle.(?) Have no further plans for this picother than eventual deletion. Comments welcome. Jack

RE: New hazard for photographers

2009-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
Who's the daddy? I think Woody's just channeling his daddy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: SMC COATINGS WERE FANTASTIC FROM DAY ONE IN 1971 - RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
It was a reasonable discussion. Sometimes the responses to JCO posts remind me of schoolyard bullies. Paul On Apr 16, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 4/16/09, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:48:55AM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: NO, I am not saying

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/16/2009 9:27:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Your credit card transactions at USA McDonald's are verified over the internet. If you shut it down, there would be a roar from consumers and businesses across the country. Think about no more

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/4/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Allow me to revise my question, since I know at least of few of you use that iPhone thingy. What's it like when you leave the 3G network? Scott, I am lucky enough to live and work in plenty of areas in southern England where 3G is readily

Re: New hazard for photographers

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/12/2009 3:42:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandyinch...@gmail.com writes: Woody Harrelson might mistake you for a zombie! http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/10/woody.harrelson.zombie/inde x.html http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20271916,00.html

Re: PESO - The Accordion as a Social Tool

2009-04-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
...ouch... lemme guess... sea of love??? mike, as a veteran of psychic wars - er, divorces, all I have to say is thanks for the walkman/ cdman/ mp3/ mp4 players :-) LF (now hearing Blue Oyster Cult - Godzilla) mike wilson escreveu: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Frank,

Re: PESO: Cathedral Ruins and Tower

2009-04-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very interesting! LF Daniel J. Matyola, Esq escreveu: From the Rock of Cashel, Cashel, Ireland. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7841469 Dan M -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: New hazard for photographers

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
As is the difference between Woody and his daddy. On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:39 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/12/2009 3:42:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandyinch...@gmail.com writes: Woody Harrelson might mistake you for a zombie!

Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/13/2009 5:07:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cotty...@mac.com writes: Taking a liberty here ;) Sunny day, an hour free, the garden beckons. Amazing what you can see from just a few square feet of space. Sony DSR-450 + Canon YJ 13X6 + Tiffen polariser + Final Cut

Re: New hazard for photographers

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/16/2009 9:52:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: As is the difference between Woody and his daddy. = Yeah, Woody has anger management issues, but the paparazzi stink. And, personally, I think he is a very good actor. Marnie The

Re:Takumar A 70-200

2009-04-16 Thread Bill Lawlor
Thanks to all for the info on the lens.I saved $29 and I sure don't need any more paper weights or door stops. Bill Lawlor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com: In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:30:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: What I really don't understand is the need to pass such a bill in peacetime,. Do someone really see such an emergency coming up? === ? It isn't peace time

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:34:16AM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: [snip] you are claiming VISIBLE color differences/improvements with these DA coatings. That would be a large measurable change with respect to all other coatings. THAT is what I dont believe/doubt seriously. Same flower,

Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Luiz Felipe Well, speculation it is, but since I'm rather idle at the moment... :-) I believe it's in fact a camera, so either some old camera - pre-K10/ K100 - or a new one. Later down the thread someone tells it's not the *ist D - the DS and DL had no front dial. The *ist-D DOES

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/16/2009 10:10:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: 2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com: In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:30:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: What I really don't understand is the need to pass such a bill in

Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The *ist-D DOES have a front e-dial. But that's not an *ist-D, the front of the pop-up flash doesn't project out far enough. Same for the K-10D. This camera has almost no projection over the lens, and there's a

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Maybe it's my eyes, or my monitor.  But it sure looks like the DA35 renders the BIV end of the spectrum differently than the FA31 does. Do you use UV filters on the lenses? If so, same type or different type? -- PDML

RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
that may very well be true, but it doesnt meant that color corrected lenses must have DA coatings which was your original argument was it not? Regarding coatings and lenses and color correction, I believe it has been going on all the way back since the 1960's or earlier that the coatings are

Re: PESO - South Park

2009-04-16 Thread Rick Womer
Actually, what I wish I'd had was a polarizer. A lot of the light is glare off the grass, and I think a polarizer would have tamed the highlights and darkened the sky nicely. Alas, the moment was passing, and there was no time to install the step-up ring and filter... Cheers, Rick

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:35:40PM -0400, Matthew Hunt scripsit: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Maybe it's my eyes, or my monitor.  But it sure looks like the DA35 renders the BIV end of the spectrum differently than the FA31 does. Do you use UV filters

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 16, 2009, at 00:32 , David Savage wrote: On 16/04/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Isn't that a gaggle? Or is it a murder...:-) A vision? A focus? What's the right collective noun for a group of working girls? Best I can think of is a a hustle of harlots. A brothel.

Re: Peso - Ol' No. 2

2009-04-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 16, 2009, at 07:26 , frank theriault wrote: Constructive criticism appreciated, flogging not necessary... I like it, except for the colour. Fire trucks should be bright red. Or yellow, or white, depending... Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words,

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:41:35PM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: that may very well be true, but it doesnt meant that color corrected lenses must have DA coatings which was your original argument was it not? I don't believe I said anything about 'colour corrected lenses'; I said that the DA

Re: GES0: Mrs. Blackbird

2009-04-16 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:17:16AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: This, apparently, merits the exclamation of boing! (or something similar) when it happens. Would you happen to know the derivation of the effect noise? I can follow the objection

Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-16 Thread Thibouille
Beleive me it is a Pentax ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: GES0: Mrs. Blackbird

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Brewer
Graydon wrote: That makes complete sense; it's fossil humorous emphasis, which explains way more of the English language than most scholarly sources are prepared to admit. :) Thanks! -- Graydon that's Mr. Fossil to you, bubba. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New hazard for photographers

2009-04-16 Thread paul stenquist
Most paparazzi are okay. The people who feed on celebrity gossip and buy the magazines are creating the need. So blame them if someone must be blamed. The paparazzi are just there to answer the call. For many, it's the only way they can earn a decent living. Paul On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:54

Re: OT again - iphones instead of androids

2009-04-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: That's what I'm interested in. Is more slowly still usable, or is it laughably worthless? Granted, I'm not gonna watch streaming videos on the damn thing, so I'm probably worrying about nothing. We do have a wireless network at home. Far

RE: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread JC OConnell
But your implying that DA coatings are better because the color correction is better, I dont agree with that statement as necessarily being true. Just because you have a DA lens with whatever coating you feel has better color correction than another lens you have, doesnt mean that the DA coatings

Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-16 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ? Beleive me it is a Pentax ;) Sounds like a --- MARK --- to me ! -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille

RE: New hazard for photographers

2009-04-16 Thread Bob W
I agree with you. A lot of very respectable photographers have done time as paps, including many Magnum people. I wouldn't mind being a pap, except that I have absolutely no idea who any of the slebs are or why people are interested in them, so I'd be no good at it. Bob Most paparazzi are

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com: Hmmm. And your  point? Jostein It isn't peacetime, that's  all. I don't think war time justifies getting rid of personal liberties,  but your statement was inaccurate. At least for the US, which is where the bill is. All NATO countries are

Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down' Internet

2009-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com: Hmmm. And your  point? Jostein It isn't peacetime, that's  all. I don't think war time justifies getting rid of personal liberties,  but your statement was inaccurate. At least for the US, which is where the bill is. All NATO countries are

Re: DA55* 55/1.4 follow-up

2009-04-16 Thread DagT
I can´t see why colour couldn´t be handled differently with newer lenses. Remember that these coatings consist of several layers which have thickness depending on which wavelength they should reduce the reflection. This requires fine tuning which has been developed and has become easier

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