Re: Death of a Photographer

2010-04-05 Thread John Celio
I saw this earlier tonight on a blog I follow. It made me incredibly mad. Spitting mad. I've probably lost the friendship of a couple ex-military people I know from things I've written about it. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio I should add that the URL for

adobe pdf question

2010-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. I just upgraded adobe reader from 9.2 to 9.3 and it still does it. I tried printing a PDF with photoshop CS3, but it only has

Re: Death of a Photographer

2010-04-05 Thread John Celio
I saw this earlier tonight on a blog I follow. It made me incredibly mad. Spitting mad. I've probably lost the friendship of a couple ex-military people I know from things I've written about it. John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio I should add that the URL for t

RE: OT, for the audiophiles

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Mitchell
Love it! Talking of bluegrass versions of classic rock songs - shameless plug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=7Dv0txT5Rx8 Chris > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Bob W > Sent: 05 April 2010 21:46 > To: 'Pentax-D

PESO - Unsettled

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Weather here the past few days has been quite variable. It does make for some nice opportunities, though. Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 100mm ISO 800, 1/400 sec @ f/8, Handheld Converted using Lightroom 3 Beta http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-8.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Jostein, I'd gladly pay USD 50 or so for such a book. Or perhaps even USD 100. But then I would ask you to sign it for me. In fact, this is what I am asking you to do right now. Boris On 4/6/2010 12:10 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a "personal photo boo

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Bruce, here are my comments on your workflow. But please bear in mind that I very rarely have to import as many as 200 photos. Usually it is 50-100 photos from one shoot that I have to work with. I do my file management prior to LightRoom (copying from memory cards, renaming, etc) in FreeComma

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/6/2010 6:15 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles ... click "02 Lightroom Learning Resources" Invaluable. Thanks for the link, Godfrey. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PD

Re: Death of a Photographer

2010-04-05 Thread John Poirier
I should add that the URL for the special WikiLeaks site is: http://collateralmurder.com/en/index.html - Original Message - From: "John Poirier" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: OT: Death of a Photographer Hi, all. I seldom have time to

Another LBA.

2010-04-05 Thread William Robb
Mike Johnson is right about the 35/2.8 LTD Macro. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Oh craigslist, you evil temptress

2010-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
There are far too many interesting toys on craigslist today: This probably isn't a great lens, and it seems to need the aperture blades cleaned, but for $30? Apr 5 - Soligor 400mm f/5.6 for Pentax K - $30 - (san jose downtown) Someone in Berkeley is selling a trio of Zeiss lenses: Apr 5 - c

OT: Death of a Photographer

2010-04-05 Thread John Poirier
Hi, all. I seldom have time to post on this group, but I think this needs to be spread around. A credible web organization called WikiLeaks today set up a web site documenting the 2007 death of Namir Noor-Eldeen, 22, a photographer for Reuters in Iraq. The site includes very chilling video f

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Great information, I'll start playing around tonight and see how it goes. Thanks for the link. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, April 5, 2010, 8:15:47 PM, you wrote: GD> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Bruce Dayton GD> wrote: >> Thanks for your reply.  I have downloaded the Beta 3 of lightroo

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Thanks for your reply.  I have downloaded the Beta 3 of lightroom to > kind of give it a try.  Can you point me to some things that would > get me started (videos, tutorials) especially oriented towards the > separate catalogs you mentioned?  

Re: PESO Working title?

2010-04-05 Thread Alastair Robertson
"spontaneous propulsion?" or "Q shows young James his new ejector slippers" On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > On 4/5/2010 4:40 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM, paul stenquist >>  wrote: >>> >>> Fun shot and a great concept, well executed. Love thi

Re: PESO - Islington Bus Platform

2010-04-05 Thread paul stenquist
A nice addition to your subway series. Good to hear you're liking your new home. Paul On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:02 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Back online after the move, but LOTS of unpacking still to do, so I > won't be on-list too much for a bit. Loving the new place so far (but > a few problem

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I'm sure I was diverted by his swaggering manner ... If you can read a 'swaggering manner' in the words "There's nothing nebulous about 'blown out'" then you are the biggest drama queen I've ever come across. But so much for trying to help someo

Boston Area photo show and sale

2010-04-05 Thread David Parsons
The Photographic Historical Society of New England is having their semi-annual show and sale on Apr 17-18 in Wakefield, Ma. This is a great show to go to if you are looking to buy or sell any kind of photographic equipment and media. Items range from basic wood 8x10 view cameras to current gear,

Re: PESO - Islington Bus Platform

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Something about her made me glad you did. Innocent..vulnerable.. Nice to hear from and glad you're pleased with your new digs. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: PESO - Islington Bus Platform > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, Apri

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
While, as I've said, I didn't read the subject message, I heartily agree with your comments, Paul! Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, paul stenquist wrote: > From: paul stenquist > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 5:20 PM > > On Apr 5

PESO - Islington Bus Platform

2010-04-05 Thread frank theriault
Back online after the move, but LOTS of unpacking still to do, so I won't be on-list too much for a bit. Loving the new place so far (but a few problems none-the-less). More on that later. The nearest subway is now Islington Station. Spotted this lady on one of the bus platforms: http://knarf-

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Brian Walters
My experience with Lightroom is much the same as yours (i.e. I played around with Version 1 and that's about it). My problem was that by the time Lightroom appeared, I'd already invested a lot of effort in image management using Studioline for cataloguing, keywording etc. I wasn't really prepared

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > >> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:24 -0700, "Jack Davis" >> wrote: >>> I gave my honest reaction to the crude first half dozen words of your >>> first sentence. I read no further nor do I intend to. >>> You're obviously still stin

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for your thoughts, Mark. If the info was useful to anyone, great. Immediately apparent it wasn't to my point. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Mark Roberts wrote: > From: Mark Roberts > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 5:01 PM

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread David Parsons
Lightroom is as much, if not more, about organization and metadata as is it about processing. I use the keywording feature very extensively. It's not simply a photo editing package. It's kind of like Bridge++, with editing tools designed for photographers, not graphic artists. The very best feat

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
I'm sure I was diverted by his swaggering manner and some history. If it was of some value to someone, it wasn't a complete waste. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Brian Walters wrote: > From: Brian Walters > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5

Re: Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Feeling some pressure now, Paul. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, paul stenquist wrote: > From: paul stenquist > Subject: Re: Short Trip > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 4:31 PM > Looking forward to seeing some pic! > Enjoy. > Paul > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 6

Re: Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Adams referred to his friend Westin as the greatest photographer of his day. Very energetic dynamic person. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, steve harley wrote: > From: steve harley > Subject: Re: Short Trip > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 4:18 PM > On 2010-04-05 16:4

Re: Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Sasha for the kind wishes and location tip. I'll look for it. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Sasha Sobol wrote: > From: Sasha Sobol > Subject: Re: Short Trip > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 3:46 PM > Jack, have a nive trip! > Btw, there is a Garrapata park (a

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: >On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:24 -0700, "Jack Davis" >wrote: >> I gave my honest reaction to the crude first half dozen words of your >> first sentence. I read no further nor do I intend to. >> You're obviously still stinging from the dressing down you receive some >> time ago. > >

Re: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread Alastair Robertson
actually I take it back - Scilla is the latin name (not always a good idea to worry about these as Bob points out) but the common name is indeed squill I discover = origin the same - and according to the american heritage dictionary it is 1. noun Any of several bulbous Eurasian and African plan

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:24 -0700, "Jack Davis" wrote: > I gave my honest reaction to the crude first half dozen words of your > first sentence. I read no further nor do I intend to. > You're obviously still stinging from the dressing down you receive some > time ago. Geez - I'll have to pay bett

Re: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread paul stenquist
Nice color and rendering. I might have cheated a bit and cloned out the blossoms at lower right and upper left. But I'm a notorious cloner:-). Paul On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Nice! The lens does not disappoint, it seems. You have done a good > job with this shot. > > I w

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
I started out with Bibble 4, I have a copy of bibble 5, but haven't worked with it at all. Technically, bibble seems quite good and bibble 5 is supposed to fix a lot of the UI problems of B4. For me, the biggest advantage of LR is that it is basically the industry standard. If I need advice

Re: Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread paul stenquist
Looking forward to seeing some pic! Enjoy. Paul On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > The wife and I are going to the Monterey, CA area for a couple days. Will be > "hunting" in an area from Moss Landing in the north to Point Lobos in the > south. Point Lobos is just south of Carmel,

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Ok, let me lay out where I am at. > > Here is my current workflow and tools > > I mostly work in a job oriented way - basically one job is shot, > processed and completed - at that point it is archived off the main > system. > > So here are the

Re: Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-05 16:41 , Jack Davis wrote: The wife and I are going to the Monterey, CA area for a couple days. Will be "hunting" in an area from Moss Landing in the north to Point Lobos in the south. Point Lobos is just south of Carmel, CA. and a spot made famous by Ansel Adams and his cohort, E

Re: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nice! The lens does not disappoint, it seems. You have done a good job with this shot. I was thinking Squill sounded like something you drink...though perhaps not very tasty. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:07:24 AM, you wrote: CR> The wife tells me it is called "Squill".

Re: PESO - Paw Prints

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Dang, I wish it were mine! Nicely seen and captured, Rick. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:35:20 AM, you wrote: RW> Taken on a walk around the local park Sunday afternoon. RW> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10879727&size=lg RW> (K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 200, f/5.6 @ 1/3

Re: Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread Sasha Sobol
Jack, have a nive trip! Btw, there is a Garrapata park (an beach) next to Point Lobos. Definitely worth visiting. --Sasha On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > The wife and I are going to the Monterey, CA area for a couple days. Will be > "hunting" in an area from Moss Landing in

Short Trip

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
The wife and I are going to the Monterey, CA area for a couple days. Will be "hunting" in an area from Moss Landing in the north to Point Lobos in the south. Point Lobos is just south of Carmel, CA. and a spot made famous by Ansel Adams and his cohort, Edward Westin. Hallowed ground! We have a d

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I gave my honest reaction to the crude first half dozen words of your first > sentence. I read no further nor do I intend to. Well then, just fuck off. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Godfrey, Thanks for your reply. I have downloaded the Beta 3 of lightroom to kind of give it a try. Can you point me to some things that would get me started (videos, tutorials) especially oriented towards the separate catalogs you mentioned? Thanks for taking the time... -- Best regard

Re: Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > Here is my current workflow and tools > > I mostly work in a job oriented way - basically one job is shot, > processed and completed - at that point it is archived off the main > system. > > So here are the steps and tools: > > Capture in RAW w

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Good..let's go with that. ;) Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Joseph McAllister wrote: > From: Joseph McAllister > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:42 PM > If you watched this mornings shuttle > launch, you would have seen that the

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
I gave my honest reaction to the crude first half dozen words of your first sentence. I read no further nor do I intend to. You're obviously still stinging from the dressing down you receive some time ago. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Joseph McAllister wrote: > From: Joseph McAllister > Subject:

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/4/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: >I just sent off a manuscript for a "personal photo book" to a >Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my >hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, >but this print shop as a good reputation.

Potential Advice

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Ok, let me lay out where I am at. Here is my current workflow and tools I mostly work in a job oriented way - basically one job is shot, processed and completed - at that point it is archived off the main system. So here are the steps and tools: Capture in RAW with camera Create folder for job

RE: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread Bob W
Now you're getting all binomial on us. Not always a good idea to have a Latin name, you know: > > sorry to spoil the fun - it's actually Scilla! > > Alastair > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:16 AM, mike wilson > wrote: > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > >> B

Re: OT Amazon dot ca battery for iBook G4 14"

2010-04-05 Thread mike wilson
David J Brooks wrote: This battery(original from 2005) is just about had it. It will not charge above 80% and dies in about 15 minutes. Found a replacement on Amazon dot com, and it had 4 good reviews, so i checked the dot ca site and they had the same battery, for $64.00 so i ordered one. I'll

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto wrote: Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a "personal photo book" to a Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, but this print shop as a good reputation. Basically, I did th

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > On Apr 5, 2010, at 14:36 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >>> >>> Well the conversation went on for several posts and finally I invited >>> posters to define what they consider a "blown out"

Re: How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:10 PM, AlunFoto wrote: > Guys and gals, > > I just sent off a manuscript for a "personal photo book" to a > Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my > hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, > but this print shop

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
If you watched this mornings shuttle launch, you would have seen that the shuttle, it's external tank, and the boosters were well defined. The result of the combustion of the contents of all but the shuttle were "blown out". Apparently a better outcome than "blown up". On Apr 5, 2010, at

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 5, 2010, at 14:36 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Well the conversation went on for several posts and finally I invited posters to define what they consider a "blown out" image. IOW, how featureless must the image be to meet your criteria o

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Well the conversation went on for several posts and finally I invited posters > to define what they consider a "blown out" image. IOW, how featureless must > the image be to meet your criteria of "blown out." > Thought it might explain why the

Re: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread Alastair Robertson
sorry to spoil the fun - it's actually Scilla! Alastair On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:16 AM, mike wilson wrote: > Jack Davis wrote: > >> Beautiful! The name "Squill" sounds like something discharged from a >> wound. :( >> >> Jack > > Not so far from the truth... > http://www.botanical.com/botanical/m

Re: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread mike wilson
Jack Davis wrote: Beautiful! The name "Squill" sounds like something discharged from a wound. :( Jack Not so far from the truth... http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/s/squill86.html#med --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Charles Robinson wrote: From: Charles Robinson Subject: PESO: Pretty flower

Re: OT: Propeller droop, caused by iPhone?

2010-04-05 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms wrote: From: "Bob W" My husband snapped this yesterday with his iPhone. The > propeller of > > the plane was moving at the time, but appears still, although very > > droopy: > > > > http://inielsen.com//bloggerpics/droopy1.jpg > > > > I'm looking for reassurance that this is

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-05 14:37 , Bob W wrote: [attributions mangled] if 1011 were meant as binary, it didn't make sense; if you were indicating that lots of people would have missed the Spinal Tap reference, i think it's pretty much a meme by now Now I've no idea what you're talking about. 1011 in binary

How much would you pay for a photobook?

2010-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
Guys and gals, I just sent off a manuscript for a "personal photo book" to a Norwegian vendor. 58 pages, 30x30 cm, hardcover. I'll be sitting on my hands waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can see the quality, but this print shop as a good reputation. Basically, I did this for myself only

RE: OT, for the audiophiles

2010-04-05 Thread Bob W
I like that. Have they ever done "Set the controls for the heart of the sun"? > My favorite cover of Pink Floyd is done by the lounge lizards: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q75qJ3vCmBw > > On 4/5/2010 12:35 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:57, Bob W wrote: > > > > > >

Re: OT, for the audiophiles

2010-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
My favorite cover of Pink Floyd is done by the lounge lizards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q75qJ3vCmBw On 4/5/2010 12:35 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:57, Bob W wrote: Right up there with the circular sensor: The Rane Psuedoacoustic Infector http://www.rane.com/pi14.ht

RE: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Bob W
> On 2010-04-05 12:43 , Bob W wrote: > >> 95% of people would have no idea what you were talking about > >> > > > > No change there then. > > if 1011 were meant as binary, it didn't make sense; if you > were indicating that lots of people would have missed the > Spinal Tap reference, i think it'

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
LoL..kinda wish I could let go. Actually, I knew better and have no excuses. I was honestly curious..yes, I know about the stiff cat. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, P. J. Alling wrote: > From: P. J. Alling > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Well the conversation went on for several posts and finally I invited posters to define what they consider a "blown out" image. IOW, how featureless must the image be to meet your criteria of "blown out." Thought it might explain why the disparity of opinions beyond the monitor's contribution.

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Toine! Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Toine wrote: > From: Toine > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 1:02 PM > He did answer your question. Most > images have or should have blown out > parts (zone 9). > Some think it's somet

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-05 12:43 , Bob W wrote: 95% of people would have no idea what you were talking about No change there then. if 1011 were meant as binary, it didn't make sense; if you were indicating that lots of people would have missed the Spinal Tap reference, i think it's pretty much a meme b

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, I for one am staying the hell out of this. On 4/5/2010 4:07 PM, David Parsons wrote: I didn't see a question in your first post. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I only read as far as about half of your first sentence. I didn't need to read further as it was obviou

Re: I-10 Review

2010-04-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/5/2010 4:05 PM, Margus Männik wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Margus M?nnik Somewhy many people think "wow, it looks so good, so it has to be also very smart". No, I-10 is technically quite an average compact. But it still looks cool :) For me, Optio I-10 is one of the very few things

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread David Parsons
I didn't see a question in your first post. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I only read as far as about half of your first sentence. I didn't need to > read further as it was obvious you had missed the point of the question. > > Jack > > --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: I-10 Review

2010-04-05 Thread Margus Männik
John Sessoms wrote: From: Margus M?nnik Somewhy many people think "wow, it looks so good, so it has to be also very smart". No, I-10 is technically quite an average compact. But it still looks cool :) For me, Optio I-10 is one of the very few things (and the only camera) in my life that I ha

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Then what, pray tell, is the "point of the question"? You asked "Define 'blown out'." I answered in summary, "In the context of the Zone System's scale, 'blown out' is defined to be values in the final image above Zone 8 where you wanted to show detail." So ... what is the "point" of your questi

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Toine
He did answer your question. Most images have or should have blown out parts (zone 9). Some think it's something to avoid. I don't agree with avoiding blown out parts at all cost, even blown out parts in faces could work. Toine On 5 April 2010 21:44, Jack Davis wrote: > I only read as far as abou

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
I only read as far as about half of your first sentence. I didn't need to read further as it was obvious you had missed the point of the question. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

Re: Propeller droop, caused by iPhone?

2010-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 5, 2010, at 01:17 , Bob W wrote: My husband snapped this yesterday with his iPhone. The propeller of the plane was moving at the time, but appears still, although very droopy: http://inielsen.com//bloggerpics/droopy1.jpg I'm looking for reassurance that this is some kind of iphone cam

Re: OT, for the audiophiles

2010-04-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:57, Bob W wrote: >> Right up there with the circular sensor: >> The Rane Psuedoacoustic Infector >> http://www.rane.com/pi14.html >>> Note the PDFs at the bottom of the page Here's another, the Auto De-tuner. >>

Re: PESO Something different

2010-04-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/5/2010 7:35 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Nie arrangment of colours and textures. Having a hard Knight? Dave On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I present another recent K-x pano, two shots this time, I hope that you appreciate and enjoy: http://users.tp

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 5, 2010, at 12:08 , Bob W wrote: comes down to the fact that with digital signals, there is no way to "turn the volume to 11" Volume at 11 isn't much in digital - are you sure you're not thinking of 1011? Nerds who think only in binary have only a limited world view of black, or w

RE: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Bob W
> >> comes down to the fact that with digital signals, there is > no way to > >> "turn the volume to 11" > > > > Volume at 11 isn't much in digital - are you sure you're > not thinking > > of 1011? > > Nerds who think only in binary have only a limited world view > of black, or white. > > :-

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:57 , Bob W wrote: comes down to the fact that with digital signals, there is no way to "turn the volume to 11" Volume at 11 isn't much in digital - are you sure you're not thinking of 1011? Nerds who think only in binary have only a limited world view of black, or

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > I'll offer mine the nebulous term by saying that if at least some surface > areas are rendered featureless by virtue of being too bright, I'd consider > those areas "blown out." Many images can tolerate a certain amount of this > condition, b

Re: Interesting comparison : DPReview EOS 550D (Rebel T2i),,, Review

2010-04-05 Thread P. J. Alling
But does it come with the marionettes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar_%28TV_series%29 On 4/5/2010 8:42 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sports cars? The new buzzword is supercar. Which goes to show how useless these definitions are. On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Re: best Pentax lens adaptor for canon

2010-04-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/5/2010 11:38 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/4/5 ann sanfedele: Ok - someone has to explain THIS joke to me.. something pertinent to North vs South I assume? or perhaps Viva La Revolution. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
For me it's just a matter of wondering if featureless bright areas contain hidden detail. If the photog intentionally leaves or creates featureless white areas, that's their choice. If someone looking at one of my images were to point it out and ask if it were intentional, I'd happily answer the

Re: OT: Propeller droop, caused by iPhone?

2010-04-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/5/2010 12:23 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "Bob W" My husband snapped this yesterday with his iPhone. The > propeller of > > the plane was moving at the time, but appears still, although very > > droopy: > > > > http://inielsen.com//bloggerpics/droopy1.jpg > > > > I'm looking for reass

RE: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Bob W
> 95% of people would have no idea what > you were talking about > No change there then. Bob > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On > Behalf Of steve harley > Sent: 05 April 2010 19:16 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Define "

Re: Interesting comparison : DPReview EOS 550D (Rebel T2i),,, Review

2010-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I stand corrected. I particularly like the extraordinarily large goldfish in the ocean. Those were the days! Men were men and eyebrows were huge. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: > On 5 April 2010 22:42, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> Sports cars?  The new buzzword is superc

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-05 12:05 , Jack Davis wrote: My point is about the difficulty in defining the general visual impact tolerated. That's a job for each viewer. well, you could say that areas too bright for the camera to handle will be displayed as pure white, with no detail; adjacent areas not quite

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-05 11:57 , Bob W wrote: comes down to the fact that with digital signals, there is no way to "turn the volume to 11" Volume at 11 isn't much in digital - are you sure you're not thinking of 1011? try thinking about it a little less literally sure, you could say "taking it to 256"

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Technically well stated, Steve. My point is about the difficulty in defining the general visual impact tolerated. That's a job for each viewer. Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, steve harley wrote: > From: steve harley > Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-) > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Mon

Re: PESO" Northern Magnolia

2010-04-05 Thread Toine
Very nice! Toine On 5 April 2010 01:31, paul stenquist wrote: > This flowering tree is sometimes called a Northern Magnolia, but it doesn't > seem to have anything in common with a real Magnolia. It's also known as a > Tulip Tree. In any case, it's a nice bloom. And several in my neighborhood

RE: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Bob W
> comes down to the fact that with digital signals, there is no > way to "turn the volume to 11" Volume at 11 isn't much in digital - are you sure you're not thinking of 1011? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-05 11:27 , Jack Davis wrote: I'll offer mine the nebulous term by saying that if at least some surface areas are rendered featureless by virtue of being too bright, I'd consider those areas "blown out." Many images can tolerate a certain amount of this condition, but it's amount is

Re: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Beautiful! The name "Squill" sounds like something discharged from a wound. :( Jack --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Charles Robinson wrote: > From: Charles Robinson > Subject: PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name. > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:07 AM > The wi

Define "blown out" :-)

2010-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
I'll offer mine the nebulous term by saying that if at least some surface areas are rendered featureless by virtue of being too bright, I'd consider those areas "blown out." Many images can tolerate a certain amount of this condition, but it's amount is the criteria and varies with each viewer.

Re: PESO - Paw Prints

2010-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On 4/5/2010 9:35 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Taken on a walk around the local park Sunday afternoon. I love the juxtaposition! http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10879727&size=lg (K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 200, f/5.6 @ 1/350) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pd

Re: best Pentax lens adaptor for canon

2010-04-05 Thread ann sanfedele
eckinator wrote: 2010/4/5 ann sanfedele : Ok - someone has to explain THIS joke to me.. something pertinent to North vs South I assume? ahha! -- but coming from an Aussie... I was thrown off. naughty you, ecke - not including David's original quip so I will I believe Ann used

PESO: Pretty flower with a silly-sounding name.

2010-04-05 Thread Charles Robinson
The wife tells me it is called "Squill". It is some of the first stuff to pop up out of the ground when the weather warms up here in Minnesota. Taken with my "new to me" Tamron 90mm f2.5 macro lens. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/easter/content/IMGP9270_large.html -Charles -- C

PESO - Paw Prints

2010-04-05 Thread Rick Womer
Taken on a walk around the local park Sunday afternoon. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10879727&size=lg (K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 200, f/5.6 @ 1/350) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

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