In a message dated 3/7/2005 4:40:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I mentioned that the thin weather-stripping around the prism cover
(that I removed to see if all the contacts/solder joints looked okay)
needed to be replaced. He seemed more concerned that such thin
Hi Frank, That was my guess too. The shutter contacts get dirty, mine had
that problem too.
Steve
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: LX Repair Update, March 7, 2005
Well, I actually
My tech simply used a very fine bead of black silicon sealant.
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Well, I actually got it to the repair shop today (last week was a busy
one at work). You may recall that my Black Beauty won't trip the
flash.
Russ said that it's likely a set of contacts in the shutter mechanism
that trigger the flash that wear out commonly (after 20 years or so
g). Or,
: LX Repair Update
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 06:57:53 -0500, David Chang-Sang
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If Kominek's can't repair the LX I think Frank would be hard pressed to
find
someone else within Canada who could. Their service, from my experience,
is
top notch and if it's
fixed for you Frank :)
Dave
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From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:20 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: [personal] Re: LX Repair Update
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The customs procedures for repatriating
Frank.
Only other place i can think of that might be able to do it if Komineks is
unablle is Sun
Camera Repair at
Keele and Steeles.(1 block east)
They fixed my SP500 and Yashica Mat 2 1/4. I was happy with both repairs.
Dave
If Kominek's can't
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 06:57:53 -0500, David Chang-Sang
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If Kominek's can't repair the LX I think Frank would be hard pressed to find
someone else within Canada who could. Their service, from my experience, is
top notch and if it's the same Pentax guy that I'm thinking of,
Some of you may recall that I posted a couple of weeks ago,
complaining that the LX won't fire the flash. Several mentioned that
taking the cover off the prism would reveal some wires and contacts
and stuff (see how well I express myself in technical terms? LOL)
that I might want to check.
In the worst case, you can always send it to Pentax Japan. If they couldn't fix
it,
nobody can.
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Hi Frank ...
You could always buy mine, which I'm thinking of selling. Purchased brand
new in Japan, one of the last off the line, in absolutely wonderful shape.
Shel
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From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the worst case, you can always send it to Pentax Japan. If they
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From: Alan Chan
Subject: Re: LX Repair Update
In the worst case, you can always send it to Pentax Japan. If they
couldn't fix it,
nobody can.
The customs procedures for repatriating Japanese cameras are, from
what I have heard, even more restrictive than taking
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The customs procedures for repatriating Japanese cameras are, from
what I have heard, even more restrictive than taking California
oranges from Saskatchewan into Montana.
PCI in Toronto did a competent, albeit slow, repair on my LX's a few
years
William wrote:
I'm beginning to think I should send them to Pentax Norway.
Why not? I could perhaps call Pål (yes, thats his name) at Pentax Norway and get an
estimate for you.
Pål
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There is something obviously wrong at Pentax in Canada.
At 04:09 PM 8/14/2002 -0600, you wrote:
This has nothing to do with the LX that is still in the shop,
but with one of the cameras I got back last month.
It appears to be developing a case of sticky mirror. This is
after having the mirror
I´m beginning to miss my LX less.
All the best!
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Aihe: LX repair
On 14 Aug 2002 at 16:09, William Robb wrote:
This has nothing to do with the LX that is still in the shop,
but with one of the cameras I got back last month.
It appears to be developing a case of sticky mirror. This is
after having the mirror box serviced.
These repairers obviously
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From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re: LX repair update
William,
All I can say is that I am sure glad that the first time I
peered
through one of Shel's LX's that I didn't care for the style of
interface of the meter. That coupled with the long running
issues
that I
These repairers obviously short-cut on the sticky-mirror repair, just
replacing a few surface rubbers won't cut it, the camera has to be pulled
right
to bits, i.e. scattered all over the work-bench. None of the many LX that I
have had repaired in OZ that had sticky-mirror have ever suffered it
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Subject: Re: LX repair update
These repairers obviously short-cut on the sticky-mirror repair, just
replacing a few surface rubbers won't cut it, the camera has to be pulled
right
to bits, i.e. scattered all over the work-bench. None of the many LX that I
have had repaired in OZ
Wow Alan, sounds like you must have encountered the staff at CRK on the
wrong day. Which branch office are we talking about here? I have had
nothing
but fantastic service from Ross at CRK in Melbourne. Sure, he couldn't fix
one of my K2's, but everything else has been fine. The K2 that couldn't
On 14 Aug 2002 at 21:22, Alan Chan wrote:
I was there a few times and he was not friendly to me at all. Never had
problem with other service centres so it should not be my communication
problem. On the other hand, their sales and parts departments are very
helpful (but you must meet them
that.
Len
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:41:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If it has the motor
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Vs: Vs: Subject: LX repair update
But it's much louder (at least the one I had the opportunity to try).
ukasz
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Here's a different comparison and one I think fits very nicely. A friend of
mine is in love with Jaguars (that's the cars by the way.) He has a lovely
E-type and a newer Vandenplass. These cars have always been known as more
than a little unreliable. Just keeping the 12 cylinders tuned is a
The comparisom is between the F3 and LX. The LX is 1/75 and the F3 1/80.
Even at 1/60 there is no material difference between the speeds. F3/T's
still seem to be quite expensive in good condition. One problem when buying
used Nikon gear is that you don't know if it was owned by a PJ in a war
In a message dated 8/4/2002 8:04:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That being said, you can always wait a bit, hunt for a used BessaR2 at some
point :-)
Now that the seed is planted.. I hear the hunting bugle calling me . . .
I think I've all but decided to pick up
Excellent points Pal.
vic
In a message dated 8/3/02 6:51:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul wrote:
Early R series cameras can be very unrelibale, but the R7, R8, R6 and R6.2
are reliable and built like a tank.
The R8 had plenty of problems that are probably solved by now. If I
. Unfortunately
the LX development
was frozen around the E upgrade.
At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
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From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
I think you missed my point. William said that the use of
mixed
electronics and mechanicals
: LX repair update
Alan wrote:
But that doesn't explan why some bodies have received much more complains
than others.
It certainly does. The Pentax ME bodies that receive more complaints than others
are put out of circulation into a closed or into the garbage. Thats why you don't
hear much
. More a difference between a B53A and a B52G. Unfortunately
the LX development
was frozen around the E upgrade.
At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
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From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
I think you missed my point. William said
On 3 Aug 2002 at 0:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've had very few real problems with my LXs (four and counting) (I know, it's a
sickness). One thing I notice on the PUG that I don't really agree with is the
quick suggestion by everyone to have a CLA on an LX every time it acts up. I
think
On 2 Aug 2002 at 16:50, William Robb wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the camera (I am the guy who
insisted on the LX Gallery, after all), but I am not going to
kid myself thinking that it is more reliable than crack addict.
You can kid yourself all you like.
I had 2 P67 break, in
In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:34:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That´s what I thought when Bessa R2 was introduced - but now I think that it
has to be a model which does *not* accept Leica lenses
Raimo,
Look here:
http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtBR2.htm
The Bessa
I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair by the way. It is
much bigger,
almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67. If you can't build in
reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
something wrong.
Perhaps you mixed up the F3 with F4 or F5. I don't see how the
Doesn't this rather prove that you are using an unreliable repairing
facility? In fact, I discussed this with the Pentax repair man a couple of
months ago. I can't remember the details but he claimed that many LX bodies
was not in fact repaired properly as some servicing people were not
I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they
are unreliable.
I wonder if P67II was more reliable.
regards,
Alan Chan
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Look here:
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The Bessa R2 does accept the M series Leica lenses.
TEMPTING!!
And unlike other Bessa, this one is metal.
regards,
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: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair by the
way. It is
much bigger,
almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67. If you can't build
in
reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
Alan,
No meter coupling chain anymore and the frame advance was reworked. I
suspect the 67II is more reliable in those particular areas.
Bruce
Saturday, August 3, 2002, 2:18:59 PM, you wrote:
I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they
are unreliable.
AC I
I'm sure about what's happened to the F3 used market, but I see quite a few
going for under $300 on ebay. Very tempting. Then I remind myself that I've
got to save for that FM3a.
BR
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm, spend another grand on the LX's, or buy a couple of used
F3s..
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The F3 is about 5oz heavier than the LX. They were both intended for the
same use and market. Maybe Nikon has a better idea of what kind of
reliability is expected of this class of camera.
From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
I think that the comparison to the
F3 is a bit unfair
. Perfect Norwegian LX's don't help us here.
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update
Sounds like you should be questioning the competence of your chosen repair
facility? Not good :-(
Cheers,
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In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:41:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If it has the motor drive attached, the F3 is probably
heavier.
Though I guess I could go through my reference material and
come
up with a weight for the F3 with, and without
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update
I'm sure about what's happened to the F3 used market, but I
see quite a few
going for under $300 on ebay. Very tempting. Then I remind
myself that I've
got to save for that FM3a.
BR
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From: Len Paris
Subject: Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update
The F3 is a great camera but I wouldn't want to step down to a
flash sync speed of 1/60th again. Though I admit that, if I
could get an F3/T, I'd be hard pressed to turn it down. The
FM3
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From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Subject: LX repair update
Doesn't this rather prove that you are using an unreliable
repairing facility? In fact, I discussed this with the Pentax
repair man a couple of months ago. I can't remember the details
but he claimed that many
I have found the LX's i've owned to be quite unreliable also and they seem
to enjoy the company of my service tech, in fact my remaining was is there
right now :). I found the MZ-S pretty unreliable also. Although my first
MZ5n was super reliable never missed a beat and i gave it hell. (not the
Gee, I've never had a single problem with my LX. In fact, I've never had a
serious problem with any Pentax camera I've owned. That's about 16 years
worth of picture taking. Granted I'm not a pro and I don't use my gear on a
daily basis but not a single camera body issue that required service
Hi,
well, to even up the score a bit I've had 3 LXs, 4 or 5 MXs and a
Super A (Super Program), and they all had problems at some time in
their careers. I bought my first LX specifically to replace an MX I
had problems with. (Frying pan - fire).
For Bill's benefit, I haven't had any problems
On 2 Aug 2002 at 8:27, Bob Walkden wrote:
Hi,
well, to even up the score a bit I've had 3 LXs, 4 or 5 MXs and a
Super A (Super Program), and they all had problems at some time in
their careers. I bought my first LX specifically to replace an MX I
had problems with. (Frying pan - fire).
I sometimes wonder if you guy's really have the same camera model I use.
At 11:21 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I have found the LX's i've owned to be quite unreliable also and they seem
to enjoy the company of my service tech, in fact my remaining was is there
right now :). I found the MZ-S
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From: Matjaz Osojnik
Subject: RE: Subject: LX repair update
I wonder why you have choosen Nikon, then?
Right now, I am wondering why I chose Pentax
William wrote:
I am toying with the idea of selling it all and starting again
with a Leica system.
You don't buy Leica to get a maintanance free camera system!
Pål
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Alan wrote:
Perhaps Pentax tried too hard on LX and MZ-S?
The LX was sucessful from an engineering point of view; in fact; it's their proudest
achievement. The MZ-S, however, suffers from being a rush job. They needed to get the
digital version ready and to do that they had to postpone
Bruce wrote:
You're not alone. I have resisted buying one for quite some time
based largely on how much I read about it's problems. You don't hear
nearly as much about problems with MX's or SuperPrograms, etc.
Thats because people don't bother repairing ME's and Super Programs. The Pentax
Pål,
You bring up some excellent points that are worthy of consideration.
The age of the LX bodies perhaps is the primary cause for problems.
The one fact remains that they are all OLD cameras and will continue
to have old camera problems. Perhaps far less than some other old
cameras, but
I'm not sure that camera companies want their high-end cameras to fail
so that users will buy new ones. I'm not even sure that they make much
money from their high-end bodies anyway. I suspect that they hope to
make money from lenses and accessories and have those expensive bodies
contribute
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I'm not sure that camera companies want their high-end cameras to fail
so that users
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William wrote:
I am toying with the idea of selling it all and starting again
with a Leica system.
You don't buy Leica to get a maintanance free camera system
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Didn't mean to diminish Leica's ruggedness, but i've heard horror stories
about *brand new* M6's that were faulty. Shouldn't happen with a camera
that's $1,900 (KEH
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Aihe: Re: Subject: LX repair update
Alan wrote:
Perhaps Pentax tried too hard on LX and MZ-S?
The LX was sucessful from an engineering point of view; in fact; it's their proudest
achievement. The MZ-S, however, suffers from being a rush job
People can't see electrons so they equate it with magic pixie dust. No one in their
right mind trusts magic dust.
From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nope - electronics are more reliable. The current electronic consumer grade SLRs are
incredibly reliable - there was a test in Chasseurs
or CLA the Leica.
Cheers,
Dave
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From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:05:15 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update
Well - I had a CLA done to my M6 but it was long ago and it does not seem
You don't buy Leica to get a maintanance free camera system!
Pål
Early R series cameras can be very unrelibale, but the R7, R8, R6 and R6.2
are reliable and built like a tank. The R6 and 6.2 are also quite small,
whilst still maintaing a build quality that i have never seen another SLR to
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update
In Canadian Dollar terms (I'm not sure how much in CDN this is
costing
William.. but I'm guessing.. you can't put a cash value on his
frustration
and wasted time) a Leica M6 CLA
William wrote:
What is weird is your insistence that because you happen to have
a sample that held up, that is the norm, and all evidence to the
contrary is dismissed as bad luck.
Thats not what I'm insisting on. The LX does indeed have a track record and mine
happen to be more
You bring up some excellent points that are worthy of consideration.
The age of the LX bodies perhaps is the primary cause for problems.
The one fact remains that they are all OLD cameras and will continue
to have old camera problems. Perhaps far less than some other old
cameras, but problems
You're not alone. I have resisted buying one for quite some time
based largely on how much I read about it's problems. You don't hear
nearly as much about problems with MX's or SuperPrograms, etc.
Few years back I read from a UK magazine. The UK representive said, The
Super A was a very
I would have to disagree based on my experience, but I can't argue with
your's.
Additionally if mixing mechanical, (for manual exposure), and electronic,
(for automatic exposure), shutter speeds was such a bad idea
then the new Nikon FM3 wouldn't exist.
Just because the LX was not as
Pentax and Leica RF systems complement each other well. If I was buying now
I´d get Voigtländer Bessa R instead - for much less money.
No no no! You definitely want the Bessa R2.
regards,
Alan Chan
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I think you missed my point. William said that the use of mixed
electronics and mechanicals in the
shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for the LX's
supposed un-reliability. I pointed
out that Nikon would probably not have used a similar setup if that was
true. (I kind
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From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
I think you missed my point. William said that the use of
mixed
electronics and mechanicals in the
shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for
the LX's
supposed un-reliability
Time to take your mouth out of check Bill. Keep us posted.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: LX repair update
My 3rd LX is still
William,
Sorry tale. Wish you luck with those dopey people. It stinks when you send
your equipment to the manufacturer for repair becasue you assume they know
what they're doing repair-wise only to find out that their customer service
is sooo bad.
I'd ask for a heafty discount, like the
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From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
Subject: RE: Subject: LX repair update
Bill, this is where I really sympathize with you. You have to
put up with enough crap shooting with Pentax, and then they wind
up sticking it to you too. After a certain point you've had
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From: Matjaz Osojnik
Subject: RE: Subject: LX repair update
I wonder why you have choosen Nikon, then?
Right now, I am wondering why I chose Pentax over Nikon.
I am toying with the idea of selling it all and starting again
with a Leica system.
William Robb
On 1 Aug 2002 at 18:44, William Robb wrote:
Right now, I am wondering why I chose Pentax over Nikon.
I am toying with the idea of selling it all and starting again
with a Leica system.
William Robb
Har! SLR or M, out of the pan and into the fire! VBG
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel
It's good to know there is someone who shares my view on the LX.
regards,
Alan Chan
I was talking to the fellow who I sold my F3 to when I was
financing the move to Pentax. He is a busy working pro, and
figures in the past 15 years since he bought the camera he has
put about 10,000 rolls of
Alan,
You're not alone. I have resisted buying one for quite some time
based largely on how much I read about it's problems. You don't hear
nearly as much about problems with MX's or SuperPrograms, etc.
Bruce
Thursday, August 1, 2002, 9:03:28 PM, you wrote:
AC It's good to know there is
. (not the one
i sold you Cory:)
Dont worry we'll still let you hand around if you switch to Leica :)
Regards,
Paul
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Subject: LX repair update
- Original Message
My 3rd LX is still in the shop (PCI, Mississauga). They have had
it since the middle of May.
They have been telling me for the past couple of weeks it would
be shipped soon, and last Monday, they told me it would ship on
Wednesday. Since I hadn't received it on Monday, I decided to
call them, in
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