in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P.
J. Alling
Sent: 28. juli 2006 06:56
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I don't think
580 miles in the Prius means 52 mpg (11 gallon tank). Mileage
improves in inner city use as the electric motor gets more of the
load, and in traffic there are virtually zero emissions ... the gas
motor only fires up to charge the battery if it gets low, it's off
when stopped in traffic.
On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Good diesels are very efficient too, although they're harder to clean
up emissions-wise. It's a shame that they do so poorly in the US
market ... there are a ton of superb diesel powered cars in the UK
and Europe. I've rented them when
How did I know...
Cotty wrote:
On 23/7/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Actually Brazil seems to be doing well on ethanol, but I don't know what
they're using as a feed stock, probably cutting down the rain forest.
Correct.
Cotty wrote:
On 23/7/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Actually Brazil seems to be doing well on ethanol, but I don't know what
they're using as a feed stock, probably cutting down the rain forest.
Correct.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3024636.stm
Not
Hum, so you did a google search, did you find these numbers, broken down
by ethnic groups. This takes a little work so bear with me.
The current Ethnic makeup of the US is 80.4% White which includes
White Hispanics
12.8% Black which includes
Black
Sounds like the same design philosophy as the Porsche(VW) 914...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, the Fiero wasn't exactly a classic. It was a low-budget throw-together
project from GM that did nothing to boost their reputation. The engine and
transaxle were almost identical to the front-drive
I think you can thank me for sending this car-eening wildly off topic...
frank theriault wrote:
On 7/24/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, have you ever dropped a transmission on a front wheel drive car vs
a rear wheel drive? The labor is probably 5+ times. You basically have
to
John Francis wrote:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:02:51PM +0800, David Savage wrote:
At 08:34 AM 26/07/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
A decent jerk factor as automotive engineers are fond of saying,
but it certainly runs out of steam in a hurry. Not fun by my standards.
Paul
We call
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I think you better stop talking about cars before you hurt yourself.
That whole BS about FWD being the same amount of work
I'll offer rights to the comic book at a reasonable rate. ]'-)
G
On Jul 27, 2006, at 9:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I don't think you can offend Godfrey, he's impervious, (Interesting
idea
for a Super Hero there).
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At 08:34 AM 26/07/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
A decent jerk factor as automotive engineers are fond of saying,
but it certainly runs out of steam in a hurry. Not fun by my standards.
Paul
We call it Wank Factor in our office. Usually used to describe something
flashy that is really unimportant
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:50:38 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The Prius has two motors ... the 1.5L four cylinder gas motor at 76
hp and the electric motor at 67 hp. The drive system is designed to
use them together: very low speeds entirely on the electric, switch
to the gas for standard
Hell, my 86 Escort would get up to 700 miles on a 13gal tank full. Of
course it was a diesel. Ford claimed 38mpg but I consistently got 45
combined, and 50-55 on the highway. Now if my S-10 would only do so well
(15 town/25 highway).
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On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:02:51PM +0800, David Savage wrote:
At 08:34 AM 26/07/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
A decent jerk factor as automotive engineers are fond of saying,
but it certainly runs out of steam in a hurry. Not fun by my standards.
Paul
We call it Wank Factor in our office.
I think you better stop talking about cars before you hurt yourself.
That whole BS about FWD being the same amount of work as RWD for
transaxle repair exposed your ignorance. Before working for an
aircraft company, I was a mechanic/instructor for 15 years. They dont
compare period.
Now
Well, the only problem with your post is that Godders is right about the
Prius's driveline and you are wrong. The Prius uses a mechanical
planetary gearset to connect the engine to the wheels, as well as the
two electric motor/generators. The electric motors running in generator
mode when
: Re: New telephoto lenses?
I think you better stop talking about cars before you hurt yourself.
That whole BS about FWD being the same amount of work as RWD for
transaxle repair exposed your ignorance. Before working for an
aircraft company, I was a mechanic/instructor for 15 years
graywolf wrote:
Hell, my 86 Escort would get up to 700 miles on a 13gal tank full. Of
course it was a diesel. Ford claimed 38mpg but I consistently got 45
combined, and 50-55 on the highway. Now if my S-10 would only do so well
(15 town/25 highway).
In this present hot spell, I'm getting
From: Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/07/24 Mon PM 09:41:58 GMT
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mike wilson wrote:
From: Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
graywolf wrote:
Well, I like the idea of killing everyone who
those are uncorrelated measures.
best,
mishka
On 7/23/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, if you are feeding a large part of the world with food it really
explains why you are so popular, and why you have the world record in
debt to other countries.
DagT
Den 23. jul. 2006 kl. 20.57
On Jul 24, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
That said, I recall a Citroen DS21 that took about 22 hours to change
a left side motor mount too. A nightmare.
22 hours is a bit excessive. I've done it in a lot less. The
difference is that if you follow the official shop manual
because the most efficient process that turns dollars to oil,
is simply bying oil from the producers :)
best,
mishka
On 7/23/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry about that. I´ve never
understood why the west does not use it´s technology and wealth to
become independent of oil.
DagT
--
you get rid of him means there are two of you.
i wholeheartedly subscribe to your statement regarding logic and this group
best,
mishka.
On 7/23/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, everone on the planet. As you continue executing them, the median
income goes down until one person has it
On 7/23/06, Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet, you could not believe all the trees when you were out here. I
believe you, Marnie, the environment in San Francisco has deteriorated
vastly in your lifetime. I on the other hand having grown up in places
like Detroit, and Buffalo am amazed
On Jul 25, 2006, at 3:11 AM, Bob Shell wrote:
That said, I recall a Citroen DS21 that took about 22 hours to change
a left side motor mount too. A nightmare.
22 hours is a bit excessive. I've done it in a lot less.
I would hope so! This one was not only the usual inaccessible problem
but
If you have a shop equipped for working on those things you simple drop
the entire drive train from the car and work on it separately. Trying to
disassemble the thing in the car is a nightmare. Old Volkswagons were
the same way you could hoist up the car and drop the engine/transaxel in
a few
There are a couple of Fieros around town here that have V8's stuffed in
them. Anyone care to guess what a Fiero with a 421 tri-power is like?
No, I have not ridden in it.
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mike wilson wrote:
From: Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
graywolf wrote:
Well, I like the idea of killing everyone who has an income above the
median, they are resource hogs having more than their fair share
Sure, but on FWD, you still cant do that easily, it has to come out the
bottom, and on most of the ones I've seen, you have to still remove alot
of stuff before you can do that. Again, its because the two half shafts
are connected to the transaxle and the front wheels, which in turn is
Graywolf asked,
Anyone care to guess what a Fiero with a 421 tri-power is like?
Um, twisted? Hopefully, it's just a Fiero body on a tube chassis.
Paul
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The engine and transmission of all the FWD cars I've worked on was
most easily removed by pulling them up out of the engine compartment.
Some come out most easily as a unit. Others require they be separated
in the car. It's been relatively straightforward to do. I have also
changed the
Godfrey,
Most modern FWD drivetrains can't be removed by pulling them up, there's
simply not enough room to get the engine and transaxle out that way (The
LH cars are an exception, but you still normally drop the engine/tranny
when working on them).
If you haven't worked on most post-1980
It sounds like thats where the disconnect is then. You worked on cars
before 1980, I worked on them past 1982 or so. lol. They *are* a pain
in the butt now. I'm sure what you say about the pre '80 cars are true.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The engine and transmission of all the FWD cars I've
graywolf wrote:
As far as I know the US government defines Median income as the middle
of the population, not the middle of the dollar amount. So in this case
Keith is correct. However as I pointed out in a previous post, I was
considering repeated iterations, so it hardly matters which
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The engine and transmission of all the FWD cars I've worked on was
most easily removed by pulling them up out of the engine compartment.
Some come out most easily as a unit. Others require they be separated
in the car. It's been relatively straightforward to do.
On Jul 25, 2006, at 12:02 PM, mike wilson wrote:
Many (most?) modern FWD cars require a hoist and an engine jack. The
whole car is lifted, the jack placed under the engine and, after the
usual disconnections, the whole power unit is dropped, in its subframe
assembly, to be worked on. Very
On Jul 25, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
If you haven't worked on most post-1980 cars, which are the vast
majority of FWD designs, you probably shouldn't be commenting as an
authority on servicing FWD drivetrains. Because you aren't an
authority
as your experience predates 90% of
On Jul 25, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Gonz wrote:
It sounds like thats where the disconnect is then. You worked on cars
before 1980, I worked on them past 1982 or so. lol. They *are* a
pain
in the butt now. I'm sure what you say about the pre '80 cars are
true.
Most likely ... but *all*
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jul 25, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
If you haven't worked on most post-1980 cars, which are the vast
majority of FWD designs, you probably shouldn't be commenting as an
authority on servicing FWD drivetrains. Because you aren't an
authority
as your
graywolf wrote:
As far as I know the US government defines Median income as the middle
of the population, not the middle of the dollar amount. So in this case
Keith is correct.
I hope I'm right!
I'll be in a room in about 4 hours with my introductory stats
class. It would be a bit of a
The magic of dash-dash-space (removed from my sig line in this instance)
that makes it easy to get rid of excess verbiage.
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graywolf
On Jul 25, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
You live in California. MR2's are a lot less common elsewhere. Here in
Toronto (Which is exotic car central in Canada) I see more
Lamborghini's
than I do MR2's. I can't recall the last time I actually saw an
MR2, and
I'm a car buff who is
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jul 25, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
You live in California. MR2's are a lot less common elsewhere. Here in
Toronto (Which is exotic car central in Canada) I see more
Lamborghini's
than I do MR2's. I can't recall the last time I actually saw an
MR2, and
On Jul 25, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I just looked under the hood of a Prius. Now there's a complex little
devil: I think there are more electronics under the hood than there
is engine by a factor of 10.
Nice car to drive, however.
A decent jerk factor as automotive
I lease my daily transportation cars and never service them at all. I
may change the oil every 20,000 miles or so if necessary, and I have
the brakes pads and tires replaced if they wear out. My last six
cars, going back to 1994, have been Chrysler products (because I was
writing their
Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Jul 25, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I just looked under the hood of a Prius. Now there's a complex little
devil: I think there are more electronics under the hood than there
is engine by a factor of 10.
Nice car to drive, however.
A decent jerk
No, I mean the acceleration is brisk right off the start -- that's
the jerk factor. But it diminishes quickly. A GM engineer once told
me how they played with throttle linkage action to improve the jerk
factor, because that's what people felt. Real acceleration was less
important.
I think this should be renamed the never ending thread.
Content changeable.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
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On Jul 25, 2006, at 6:00 PM, keith_w wrote:
I just looked under the hood of a Prius. Now there's a complex
little
devil: I think there are more electronics under the hood than there
is engine by a factor of 10.
Nice car to drive, however.
A decent jerk factor as automotive engineers
Just think of the photo opportunities...
G
On Jul 23, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote:
You want us all to go back to a hunter-gatherer life-style? How
could we use or Pentax's then?
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In a message dated 7/23/2006 5:47:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You want us all to go back to a hunter-gatherer life-style? How
could we use or Pentax's then?
Keith McG
I meant a scientific formula based on nature, re animals, re carrying
capacity does not
On 23/7/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Actually Brazil seems to be doing well on ethanol, but I don't know what
they're using as a feed stock, probably cutting down the rain forest.
Correct.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3024636.stm
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___/\__
Searching the Net I have found nothing to indicate that the US population
growth has slowed to 0. Overall growth has slowed, but the population is still
growing by quite a bit. A major surge occurred in the 1990's. Anyone curious
can
check census bureau facts.
Also, in almost all areas US
graywolf wrote:
Most ethanol is synthesized from petroleum these days, except for the
stuff we drink. So is a large amounts of the hydrocarbon chemicals used
in industry. Much of our clothing is made from petroleum. And of course
most of the plastics we use. Fuel is actually far from
From: Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/07/24 Mon AM 12:45:49 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses?
graywolf wrote:
Well, I like the idea of killing everyone who has an income above the
median, they are resource hogs having
On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:24 PM, graywolf wrote:
Most ethanol is synthesized from petroleum these days, except for the
stuff we drink.
Sez who?
Bob
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Go read Future Shock by Alan Toffler. He seems to have called it
pretty close (especially about population growth in the US) unlike most
writers who predict the future. Population growth for whites is below
zero, for other races way above zero.
The import/export ratio is not a matter of
Well for one thing natural forests are pretty mono-species, most of
North Eastern North America was forested mostly with White Pine when the
first Europeans arrived. Even in forests intense species competition
exists with the more successful driving out the less successful. However
there is a
graywolf wrote:
Well for one thing natural forests are pretty mono-species, most of
North Eastern North America was forested mostly with White Pine
It was more of a climax mixed hardwood/pine forests. Huge stands of
200-year-old oaks, sycamores, poplars, maples, hickory, chestnuts (the
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jul 22, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
The co-location of steering and drive makes even the simplest FWD car
more mechanically complex than a RWD car, even if both have fully
independant suspensions. The CV joints and drive shafts are what drive
up the cost of
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I don't see how repairs become much more problematic. The only
thing that becomes more difficult to repair about a front drive car
vs a typical front engine/rear drive car is the fact that the engine
and transmission are enclosed in a smaller space so it can
On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Gonz wrote:
Hmm, have you ever dropped a transmission on a front wheel drive
car vs
a rear wheel drive? The labor is probably 5+ times. You basically
have
to remove a huge number of suspension components on FWD *and* take out
the split axle before you
On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Gonz wrote:
... that's really more a reflection of the quality of the
design than the type.
I'm sorry, but you're still not convincing me. I've changed
transmissions on both types of cars and there is a *world* of
difference.
As I said, differences in
On 7/24/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, have you ever dropped a transmission on a front wheel drive car vs
a rear wheel drive? The labor is probably 5+ times. You basically have
to remove a huge number of suspension components on FWD *and* take out
the split axle before you even get
I wrote an article for Popular Mechanics some years ago about car repair
difficulty. I arranged for about a dozen popular models to be delivered to an
automotive service center. The best mechanic in the house performed six repairs
to each car. He scored them one to ten, easy to most difficult.
On 7/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote an article for Popular Mechanics some years ago about car repair
difficulty. I arranged for about a dozen popular models to be delivered to an
automotive service center. The best mechanic in the house performed six
repairs to
Ease of repair is very closely related to space under the hood in my
experience.
The Fiero had none, especially in the V6 versions. Most compact cars
have little space under the hood. RWD front engined cars tend to be
larger with the extra space that comes with it. They also have simpler
Yeah, the Fiero wasn't exactly a classic. It was a low-budget throw-together
project from GM that did nothing to boost their reputation. The engine and
transaxle were almost identical to the front-drive units in the X-body cars.
The steering knuckles were simply locked into position. I believe
How about the Pontiac Sunbird which requires either engine removal or
using a hole saw in the firewall structure behind the dashboard to
get to the rear two sparkplugs?
Or the Jaguar XKE which requires removal of 3/4 of the interior, most
of the front suspension, the entire exhaust and
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Gonz wrote:
... that's really more a reflection of the quality of the
design than the type.
I'm sorry, but you're still not convincing me. I've changed
transmissions on both types of cars and there is a *world* of
difference.
As
mike wilson wrote:
From: Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
graywolf wrote:
Well, I like the idea of killing everyone who has an income above the
median, they are resource hogs having more than their fair share of
everything.
You want to kill half the population on the planet?
Seems a
Gonz,
Thanks. Godfrey's I know it all attitude was beginning to get on my nerves.
The bullshit detector was going off every time I read his commentary.
I've pulled the transmissions on RWD cars and wouldn't even try a FWD.
Things are way too cramped in a modern engine compartment with FWD.
LOL
Obviously, you've made a living as a mechanic, right Bob?
G
On Jul 24, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Gonz,
Thanks. Godfrey's I know it all attitude was beginning to get on
my nerves.
The bullshit detector was going off every time I read his commentary.
I've pulled the
Bob,
Go pop the hood on a Chrysler LH car (Intrepid, 300M, Vision or
Concorde) and tell me there's no room to work on a FWD car. It really
does depend on the car.
I still will insist that CV Joints make a FWD car more expensive to
miantain if everything else is equal, but that's my experience
Godfrey,
Never earned a penny as an auto mechanic although I was employed as a
mechanical engineer long ago. Like Click and Clack, the Tappet
brothers on Car Talk, I always figured it was a fall-back job I
could do if nothing else came along. Now, I wouldn't care too much
for the knuckle
Adam,
I'll have to take a look at those.
Here's what I've seen of FWD...
'8? Toyota Tercel:-(
'88 Olds Delta 88:-(
'93 Buick Park Ave. :-(
'02 Olds Aurora :-(
'04 Accura T6 :-(
Not enough room for a sack lunch under the hood of any of them!
Regards, Bob S.
On 7/24/06, Adam
I did. For quite a few years. Passenger cars and race cars. And I
agree with Gonz. There's no comparison. Yes, there are some rear
drivers, like the Jag XKE, that are tough to work on, but on average,
they are far easier. And that comes from a former XJ12L owner. Worked
on that car for 22
Yes, the LH cars were better than most front drivers when it came to
ease of repair. The K cars were also better than a lot of imports and
the GM And Ford front drivers of the eighties. Chrysler always
focused on ease of repair. But in regard to the LH cars, were is
the operative word.
Yep,
The K cars really needed the ease of repair. Tough they were, but they
weren't all that reliable. The LH's (at least the first gen ones) had
tranny issues too.
And don' forget the Dodge Magnum, which was the first of the LH
replacements. Great car, if only it had a 6 speed stick in it.
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Yeah, the Fiero wasn't exactly a classic. It was a low-budget
throw-together project from GM that did nothing to boost their reputation.
The engine and transaxle were almost identical to the front
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
I always thought the Fiero was really badly handled from the get go.
When it came out it had poor suspension,
I don't think the suspension issues were ever dealt with, I read somewhere
they took the suspension pretty much straight from some
In Europe you can get a Dodge Magnum with Chrysler badging and a
Chrysler 300 grille. It's called the Chrysler 300 Estate Wagon.
Paul
On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Yep,
The K cars really needed the ease of repair. Tough they were, but they
weren't all that reliable. The LH's
In a message dated 7/24/2006 8:01:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Go read Future Shock by Alan Toffler. He seems to have called it
pretty close (especially about population growth in the US) unlike most
writers who predict the future. Population growth for whites is below
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/23/2006 5:47:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You want us all to go back to a hunter-gatherer life-style? How
could we use or Pentax's then?
I meant a scientific formula based on nature, re animals, re carrying
In a message dated 7/24/2006 8:08:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is difficult to argue that the hunter-gathering lifestyle,
probably the earliest human lifestyle, is not natural. Then some
societies developed agriculture. At what point do you decide that
human
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/24/2006 8:08:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is difficult to argue that the hunter-gathering lifestyle,
probably the earliest human lifestyle, is not natural. Then some
societies developed agriculture. At what point do
At 11:13 AM 25/07/2006, Marnie wrote:
Have fun. Maybe I will try to elucidate later.
Don't bother. Whatever that is it sounds painful.
;-)
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In a message dated 7/24/2006 8:30:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Have fun. Maybe I will try to elucidate later.
I guess I'm confused!
Not to worry!
Keith McG
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In a message dated 7/24/2006 8:33:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Don't bother. Whatever that is it sounds painful.
;-)
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SNIP My Honda used to eat front suspensions and CV joints, my wife's
Toyota
required regular CV joint replacement, and my Isuzu required an expensive
tranny rebuild at about 100,000km (GM crap transmission to be sure).
I'll stick to rear drive trucks now, they seem
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SNIP My Honda used to eat front suspensions and CV joints, my wife's
Toyota
required regular CV joint replacement, and my Isuzu
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Here and in the UK the bodies rust and fall to pieces while the engines
remain good.
Don
John Coyle wrote:
I wonder if the condition of the roads makes any difference? I don't know
whether Bill's
On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Today's front wheel drive cars handle relatively well, but like
others have noted, rear drive cars handle better under most
circumstances. Early front-wheel drive cars were a mess. Almost all
of them came with a handling characteristic known
In a message dated 7/23/2006 12:53:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here and in the UK the bodies rust and fall to pieces while the engines
remain good.
Don
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Weather is a big factor. In California, you can see classic old cars on the
road. No snow, no salt on
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Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:00:16 -0400
Cotty wrote:
On 22/7/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
. FWD overloads the fornt
Very good for car buffs, very bad for air quality.
Older cars can generate 10X as much emmissions.
The best thing to clean up air polution in the US
would be to put a bounty on old, beater cars.
Regards, Bob S.
On 7/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
California seems to go very
IMO, the best thing to clean up air pollution and all the other problems we
have is to address overpopulation.
Tom Reese
Very good for car buffs, very bad for air quality.
Older cars can generate 10X as much emmissions.
The best thing to clean up air polution in the US
would be to put a
As the late Hugh Morton said, there are seven coal burning power plants
here in VA that are grandfathered in and do not have to meet
environmental standards. Each of them put out more pollution than all
the cars in the state. Funny how this environmental stuff works, isn't
it? Before all these
- Original Message -
From: Vic Macbournie
Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses?
I own two Subaru wagons and I have never driven a car that handles as good
as these all-wheel drive vehicles. Rain, snow, sleet, and we get them all
here in Canada, are nothing to worry about. On regular
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