I would like to see Pentax as something akin to Apple in PCs (which is
personal computer for those younger, not an IBM type PC which runs
microsoft g). Products that stand out by their features and
usability. Like a big viewfinder, etc.
However, in photography these niche markets are probably
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Photokina rumour mill has started...
Hi All,
I'd kept quiet on what I'd heard from an Australian Pentax rep. but as
it's under discussion...
The rep stated matter of factly that Pentax was releasing a low end *ist
D based on the MZ-60 that would have a street
to get next.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: Photokina rumour mill has started...
The rep stated matter of factly that Pentax was releasing a low end *ist
D based on the MZ
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong
Subject: Re: Photokina rumour mill has started...
if the high end body has at least 10 megapixels, i am buying one.
if not,
it's a sign to me that Pentax isn't truly serious and i will be
thinking
very carefully about what to get next.
Since
]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Photokina rumour mill has started...
At that price (which is what? Around $5000 US?) I'd assume they'd have
to be aiming at the EOS-1D market, and going for a larger sensor than
that in the *ist-D. Probably not full frame, as I'd expect the new
i want 10 megapixels, USB 2.0 or Firewire, better sealing, faster AF, and
better low light AF. i would settle for an 3x6MP Foveon. that is all that
is
necessary for me to spend $5-6K on the camera.
Nice options Herb,
I would like to add the following :
1. Swiveling LCD screen (for those
, May 11, 2004 10:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photokina rumour mill has started...
i want 10 megapixels, USB 2.0 or Firewire, better sealing, faster AF, and
better low light AF. i would settle for an 3x6MP Foveon. that is all that
is
necessary for me to spend $5-6K on the camera
Hey, it's got an LCD screen, so how about a nice TV receiver, using
the CF card as a TIVO? Plus an AM/FM stereo radio? Organizer, note
pad, spreadsheet, database, todo list, a few games, email, you know,
the full suite of PDA apps? Might as well add a cell phone slash
walkie-talkie and ports
- Original Message -
From: Shawn K.
Subject: RE: Photokina rumour mill has started...
5. Available in matching silver for use with limited lenses
I'd take matching black limited lenses.
William Robb
You want Alfredo sauce on that sir?
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Dario Bonazza
Subject: Re: Photokina rumour mill has started...
My info supports Steve's opinion.
What does it say about his spell checker's opinion?
William Robb
On Tue, 11 May 2004, JA wrote:
1. Swiveling LCD screen (for those self portraits, or low shooting angles)
Why? There is no live preview on the screen (this is a D-SLR, not a
point and shoot).
alex
I think Roland Mabo used to post on here, but now uses Photozone. Take
the following as you will - depending on how well you know Roland:
___
Pentax are expecting to show two new DSLR's at the Photokina show in
september. One entry level/beginner DSLR (like the Nikon D70
Oooh Rob, you rumour monger of someone else's rumours you (LOL)
Cheers
Shaun
-Original Message-
From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Photokina rumour mill has started...
I think Roland Mabo used to post
probably
the
SD right priority for Pentax. Aside from the business side of things,
I'll
SD bet there are many on this list who want a DSLR and can't afford
the
SD *ist D.
SD Also, my spell checker keeps trying to replace Photokina with
SD Fettuccini
That won't take long as they are still backordered according to the local Pentax
Rep.
--
Bruce Dayton wrote:
The *ist D will slowly phase out as stock is depleted.
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
though...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 February 2004 01:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Photokina : Big Surprise ?
Sorry, it is late here, and trying not to sleep makes me
think about crazy things.
Remember
Sorry, it is late here, and trying not to sleep makes me think about crazy
things.
Remember this :
Photokina 2000 : MZ-S is announced as well as the MR -52
Photokina 2002 : Optio 330 GS is announced (crisis time)
Photokina 2004 : ??? Well, news lens DA , and, I really hope a big big news
Ken Waller wrote:
What was the size of the images that you were comparing?
Ken,
The pictures I refer to were around 50x70cm, not postcards.
In any case, my statement that good digital SLR's can match more or less
the quality of 24x36mm film SLR's means that they compare more or less,
not
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote:
4 -The new Hasselblad H1 is no longer 6x6, it's 6x4.5.
Indeedy-doody.
With lenses made by Fuji, not Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?)..
Its caused quite the uproad on rec.photo.mediumformat or whatever its
called.
MF users want top quality with good
- Original Message -
From: gfen
Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote:
4 -The new Hasselblad H1 is no longer 6x6, it's 6x4.5.
Indeedy-doody.
With lenses made by Fuji, not Zeiss (how do you pronounce
that, anyhoo?)..
Its caused quite
Zeiss rhymes with nice.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
- Original Message -
From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?)..
I wouldn't quite go that far. Good film scanned on a good printer will
still be better than an image from a 6MP DSLR. But they are close, no
doubt. Certainly close enough for my needs.
Sorry - that should, of course, read ' Good film scanned on a good
scanner...'
Cheers,
Cot
With lenses made by Fuji, not Zeiss (how do you pronounce that, anyhoo?)..
Zeiss rhymes with vice.
:-)
Cot
Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps
Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
Hi,
With a last name like fenstermacher, you'd think I'd have this German
thing down...
it's pretty easy really:
-ei- is like ice, lice, rice, nice, dice, mice, spice, Zeiss...
-ie- is like wiener, as in schnitzel.
alles in ordnung!
---
Bob
Thursday, October 10, 2002, 3:24:00 PM, you
What was the size of the images that you were comparing?
Ken Waller
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From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
Consider the following:
1 - It is believed
Perhaps only in the window-making business?
Collin O'Brendemuehl
:)
With a last name like fenstermacher, you'd think I'd have this German
thing down...
is half that of the 24x36 (linear) or one fourth the surface. The new
Four Thirds (in case it will ever see light) should be 22.5mm (diagonal).
3 - Sinar (a well known manufacturer of large format view cameras)
introduced at Photokina a 39x50mm 22 Megapixel, suitable for their new Sinar
m camera
For those who want to see something more about Photokina 2002:
www.fotone.it
Dario Bonazza
http://www.dariobonazza.com
Hi,
Thursday, October 3, 2002, 4:55:53 AM, you wrote:
Digital makes EVERYTHING better!
I am native I know. But digital does not make things better. Just look at
the unemployment rate all over the world due to computing automation. As far
as I can see, computers are here to take over our
Expectations are getting steeper all the time. A week ago it wouldhave
bebeen enough to be sub $US2000.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
- Original Message -
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
and
with a $1000 DSLR based on an MZ body, their stock would shoot up faster
than a
Not withstanding the fact that the everything better claim doesn't sell very
well, it has been my experience that digital has not reduced employment --- and
almost always in the short to medium term increase staffing. I seldom find in
administrative areas that there are any staff reductions
Beware not to confuse digital with electronical or mechanical. My MX is
mechanical, an MZ-S is electronical, but none of them are digital.
I guess a 100% digital automobile for instance would have a driving software
running on and replacing the usual tasks of the driver (turning, accelerating,
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
While mechanical/electronical machines reduces our needs of pure human
work
(like in industry or farming) digital avoids us to think and to take
decisions.
Therefore I think a huge difference is to be stated between
Peter Alling wrote:
They'd have to redesign the electronics to handle it, the sensor
wouldn't/couldn't be just
a direct replacement.
That's not much of a problem considering all the effort they put into
designing the rest of the body. Tooling is expensive (so is development
time) and
Pål Jensen wrote:
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was among the largest
ever including the boss and heaps of engineers. Weird, considering they
had nothing to show. However, it turns out that they indeed showed a LOT
but behind closed doors locked in a large safe (no I'm
Pal wrote: The Pentax booth was arranged by the German Pentax distributor, not Pentax
Japan, but a Pentax Japan delegation was present. This is of course a bit strange.
Not at all strange and no different than in years past: Pentax Germany has always (at
least for the last 12 years) made the
:
BTW, though I'll be the first to admit Pentax is molasses-slow in
releasing new products, we've seen missives like yours before the MZ-S was
released, before the 67II was released, before the 645n was released, etc.
Just because they didn't release anything at Photokina doesn't mean
they've folded
Yes that is true but all of the support circuitry would have to be
redesigned. I
think that one of the problems that Pentax had with the so called MZ-D was that
they planned to steal a 2 year jump on the competition with a 6 megapixel
full frame
design and realized they had a soon to
on 10/01/02 9:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WHAT ABOUT THE FOOT POWDER?
Cameron
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:00:11 +0200
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on 01.10.02 19:19, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
Yes,
Let us travel to Photokina. Let us pay exspenses for shipping
people, materials, security and supplies. Let us put it in a locked
safe and show no one outside of our own company. Let us waste more
money that could be used to turn around this bloated wasteball of a
company
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Yes,
Let us travel to Photokina. Let us pay exspenses for shipping
people
Digital makes EVERYTHING better!
I am native I know. But digital does not make things better. Just look at
the unemployment rate all over the world due to computing automation. As far
as I can see, computers are here to take over our jobs. :(
regards,
Alan Chan
Hi Alan,
In my industry and business in general, the computer revolution has
created more jobs. If there is a shift, like on-line banking or buying on
line, it is where the customer replaces the clerk.
I wonder what the employment numbers in IT are now? Considering there
was no such
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, gfen wrote:
Again, who else has AF 645 cameras? Quite a few.. but who has a
silent, quick focus 645? No one. Its a wide open market.
Yup. If Pentax came out with USM and IS lenses for their 645 camera, and
with a $1000 DSLR based on an MZ body, their stock would shoot up
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Sent: 01 October 2002 14:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Pentax Product's/Photokina
- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: Re: New Pentax Product's/Photokina
You know, I hate to start speculation all over agin, but the
fact that
they didn't
it in that the timing with their other releases would not
fit in the Photokina time frame. It is just too soon for the next iteration
to come out for them. Also since they are leading Canon, they don't need to
respond to everything Canon comes out with. And of course with the Kodak
showing Nikon is getting
either.
I still think we'll have a DSLR available in the spring. I'm a bit
surprised we didn't get any word of it at Photokina, but, again, we
all know Pentax are marketing freaks and don't do things the easy way.
;)
I'm also surprised not to have seen a new slide film from Fuji.
I generally don't
On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 08:51 AM, Rob Brigham wrote:
Maybe the successor to the aborted full frame MZ-D was to be a cropped
3-4MP camera as was thought here at the time the first one was pulled.
Maybe Pentax recently realised that this would no longer be saleable
either. Sigma
All Pentax needs to do is buy some of those Kodak
chips and stick them in the MZ-D, rememeber it was
finished they just needed a chip for it. Now that said
who knows if they are just waiting for cheaper chips?
__
Post your
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still think we'll have a DSLR available in the spring. I'm a bit
surprised we didn't get any word of it at Photokina, but, again, we
all know Pentax are marketing freaks and don't do things the easy way.
Well, *if* Pentax has a DSLR in the works, I'm not surprized
Nikon had a few things, like the 70-200 VR/AF-S finally going on sale and a few PS
digis. Nikon did release a new DSLR this year at PMA. It seems to be a combination of
Nikon being more interested in PMA (they sell more in NA) and them announcing new
products when they have them. In many ways
/Photokina
All Pentax needs to do is buy some of those Kodak
chips and stick them in the MZ-D, rememeber it was
finished they just needed a chip for it. Now that said
who knows if they are just waiting for cheaper chips
the feeling that Photokina has outlived its usefulness and may turn into a German
trade show (with some business being conducted from surrounding countries).
Although I havent seen any figures, it seemed to me that attendance was lower than in
the past. Saturdays at Photokina used
I don't really follow all of this, mainly because any new tech that
comes out, I can't afford, and I'm quite happy with what I've got now..
But, all this talk of IS lenses and converters and other fun stuff..
What's the chance it has nothing to do with 35mm, and that the IS lenses
were intended
Mark,
FWIW, my local lab owner here said that from his experience, PMA shows
are bigger and more important for product announcements than
Photokina. I guess frequency is one reason. A show every two years
doesn't make for as good a venue as a show every year. Perhaps Pentax
and Nikon have
Forbes magazine:
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2002/09/30/0930photokina.html
--
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
Photography and writing
When you are that far behind the curve, it's bound to happen over and
over. At some point you have to take the plunge and start upgrading
from that. If they follow that logic, you will never see a DSLR from
Pentax. The possibility exists - it may not make enough money to
justify. It hasn't
tom,
I'm curious, what makes it so attractive to you compared to the
Contax?
Bruce
Tuesday, October 1, 2002, 7:32:42 AM, you wrote:
snip
t I generally don't pay too much attention to what goes on at these
t photo shows, but I must say the new Hasselblad has really turned my
t head. It
I've been kindof thinking about this too. But I've
been thinking more along the lines of medfo lenses
with USM. Think about it... a 645 or even 67 lens with
a USM driven AF.
Nick
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gfen,
Boy, I gotta admit you have a very interesting idea
there...
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was among the largest ever
including the boss and heaps of engineers. Weird, considering they had nothing to
show. However, it turns out that they indeed showed a LOT but behind closed doors
One thing I have learned about Pentax is they sneak
things onto market and don't blow their horns. I have
a feeling IS 645 lenses are on their way.
--- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation
on 01.10.02 19:19, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
They are playing with stuff in the lab. They have nothing close to a
production sample.
I assume this is about the digital slr. In fact, the pentax digital slr was
manufactured but not marketed. There are many
It doesn't sound very plausible.
Pål Jensen wrote:
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was among the largest ever
including the boss and heaps of engineers. Weird, considering they had nothing to
show. However, it turns
Brendan wrote:
One thing I have learned about Pentax is they sneak
things onto market and don't blow their horns. I have
a feeling IS 645 lenses are on their way.
I don't believe we'll see IS lens for MF until it has been used in Pentax 35mm gear
for years. Pentax ususally destill
Daniel wrote:
It doesn't sound very plausible.
Why not? It's very common. All manufacturers do this. Photokina is the biggest meeting
place between the manufacturer sand their distributors. This gives an opportunity to
discuss and show products with engineers present. They receive valuable
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Nick Wright wrote:
I've been kindof thinking about this too. But I've
been thinking more along the lines of medfo lenses
with USM. Think about it... a 645 or even 67 lens with
a USM driven AF.
I think you'd need an AF 67, first.. But yeah. I actually forgot the USM
idea
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote:
I don't believe we'll see IS lens for MF until it has been used in Pentax 35mm gear
for years. Pentax ususally destill features into their MF gear after 35mm has paid
for it.
Wouldn't it make more sense, though, since film is already assumed
Just freeze the one you folks already have. Call it the Pentax Pie, and then trot out
the same thing show after show.
BR
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well Bruce, I think we will have to prepare another pie for you and wait
until next year's PMA ;-)
Now this is the stuff I'm talking about, good going Pal! I had to go back
and check to see who the sender was. It looks just like news from the cave.
DG
At 08:00 PM 10/1/02 +0200, you wrote:
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 17:56, Brendan wrote:
All Pentax needs to do is buy some of those Kodak
chips and stick them in the MZ-D, rememeber it was
finished they just needed a chip for it. Now that said
who knows if they are just waiting for cheaper chips?
Actually they are waiting for the 4
Well I remember a few years ago, someone here posed
the question as to why Pentax had not introduced an AF
67 camera. I believe the general consensus was
something along the lines that the motor required to
focus such large lenses would be much too big for the
camera body. But with USM the motor
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:33, dick graham wrote:
Now this is the stuff I'm talking about, good going Pal! I had to go back
and check to see who the sender was. It looks just like news from the cave.
It's that damn' caveman again, faking my e-mail address.
cheers,
Pal
;-)
HAHAHAHA :-) actually Val you need to rerelease some
of those tales from the cave for the newbies again.
Valentin Donisa wrote:On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:33,
dick graham wrote: Now this is the stuff I'm talking
about, good going Pal! I had to go back and check to
see who the sender was. It
Nick wrote:
Well I remember a few years ago, someone here posed
the question as to why Pentax had not introduced an AF
67 camera. I believe the general consensus was
something along the lines that the motor required to
focus such large lenses would be much too big for the
camera body. But
Gfen wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense, though, since film is already assumed to be
dead by your average consumer in the US and Europe, but its still got a
ways to go to MF and pro usage.
Again, I'm not Pentax scholar, or business scholar, but it seems like
there's a wide open market,
(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was
among the largest ever including the boss and heaps of
engineers. Weird, considering they had nothing to show.
However, it turns out that they indeed showed a LOT but
behind closed doors locked in a large
And entertainment was provided by Elvis, who jumped out of the safe.
Oh yes, they are also digital selling bridges.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
I have no idea about the contents of this safe is but it's
-Original Message-
From: Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:16 PM
snip
Pentax had nothing (much) to show. Period. Goshdornit people, can we just
move on?! I mean, really. Don't you still have cameras on your shelves
(apparently
I did talk with the Finnish importer´s guys at the Photokina and the general feeling
was of a disappointment.
I did learn that Pål has good sources, though.
BTW we did have a PDML meet at the Photokina - Dario, Patrick and myself - a small one
indeed but we thought that it would be a good idea
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote:
It certainly is a perfect power source for IS. BTW The more
conspiratory among us can perhaps figure out if Pentax made changes to
the 645 lens mount to provide for IS when they upgraded the 645N to
the 645NII.
Alrighty then, gearheads, get
Stop being boring and go out and sail a boat ;-)
Sorry, couldn't resist!
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 October 2002 23:13
To: Pentax List
Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
I think Jerome raises some interesting points, but I
Pål, is this real? Do you have any more on this?
We need to hire a paparazzi to spy on any new Pentax products. :)
regards,
Alan Chan
- Original Message -
From: gfen
Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina
Wouldn't it make more sense, though, since film is already
assumed to be
dead by your average consumer in the US and Europe, but its
still got a
ways to go to MF and pro usage.
Film is far from considered to be dead
And I thought I had too many... You da man!
Mishka
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
One with 36+ pieces of costly Pentax glass doesn't just move on to another
brand quietly.
Respectfully,
Rob Studdert
On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 11:27 PM, Mishka wrote:
And I thought I had too many... You da man!
Mishka
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photokina and Pentax - the future?
One with 36+ pieces of costly Pentax glass doesn't just move
I know we are all guessing (unless someone has a *real* inside line to the
top of Pentax Japan.) If they have female executives, I wonder if one of us
could infiltrate Pentax and then really gave this list something!
Now, seriously, is this 'MZ-D' the old prototype they discarded and turned
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may want to keep that pie after all?
While I am certainly happy for you 4.5x6 folks, and hope this turns into a
real product, I still didn't earn the pie since it's not a Pentax product
and certainly not a K mount DSLR.
No, I think Bruce is perfectly
Didn't Rollei make one of these before called the Rolleiflexwide or
something?
Evan
From: Robert Soames Wetmore 1. A wide-angle 50mm Rolleiflex TLR!
Simply awesome news. I finally have
a good reason to upgrade from my Yashica TLR. I'm drooling like a fool
right now.
Robert Soames
William Robb wrote:
Perhaps they will show it at the Ulan Bator show.
Isn't that show scheduled for Timbuktu this time around?
;^)Bill
-
Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast
Anyone know what the deal is with this chip? 645-sized or smaller?
Performance in low light?
tv
-Original Message-
From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax + Photokina = 645D - NOW HOLD ONTO
Rob Brigham wrote:
Pentax representatives has said that they will show their DSLR next
year - probably at the PMA show -, but I strongly believe that it will
not only be showned, it will be released.
Roland Mabo - on Photozone.de
And isn't nice that PMA has a countdown right on their main
Roland used to take part in this forum, and was always a big Pentax flag waver. For
people living near the Artic Circle, Pentax releasing new products is an article of
faith; like the sun will come back.
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
Roland Mabo - on Photozone.de
You sayin' the sun's not coming back? ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 20:13
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: photokina report
Roland used to take part in this forum, and was always a big
Pentax
, September 30, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: RE: photokina report
You sayin' the sun's not coming back? ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 20:13
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: photokina report
The real difference between Pentax product release and Spring, is that you
know when to expect the latter...
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: RE: photokina report
You sayin
Actually, it would be a perfect Pentax product: unchanging year after year,
century after century, eon after eon. Now, if you want a new, updated sun
get Canon to do it.
BR
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You sayin' the sun's not coming back? ;-)
show... next year at PMA.
On any day, next year at PMA will be the correct answer to the
question when will Pentax formally announce/release/actually offer
for sale a KAF2 mount DSLR.
of course, we shoulda all guessed that... I remember someone saying
the Pentax guys at Photokina were spelling out
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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:07 AM
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Subject: OT: Rollei was the biggest news at Photokina!
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1. A wide-angle 50mm Rolleiflex TLR! Simply awesome news. I finally have
a good reason to upgrade from my Yashica TLR. I'm drooling like a fool
6008i kits are selling for circa $2500 (US) in honk kong online stores as
well as ebay. at present, i am trying really hard to reason myself away from
one of these...
mishka
2. The 6008 is a nice system already - and - considering its competition
(blad) - it's actually cheaper. Now add the
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