Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 18, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2006 at 7:37, Mark Roberts wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have time (and let me know how it works out). My

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread David Savage
I've never had any problems. Dave On 2/17/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have time (and let me

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread John Coyle
No trouble reaching the web-site, Mark, and the copy of this will test your email address. Can't actually recall having problems before, but there you go... John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent:

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Peter McIntosh
Mark Roberts wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have time (and let me know how it works out). My hosting service thinks

RE: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Trevor Bailey
Neither have I. Regards, Trevor -Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 12:01 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now I've never had any problems. Dave On 2/17/06, Mark

RE: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Feb 2006 at 9:17, Trevor Bailey wrote: Neither have I. Mark was asking those who have had problems to reply not those who haven't :-) I had problems, for years in fact, using two independent ISPs no less. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread David Savage
Maybe that says more about you than your ISP's. :-) Mark, are you trying to black list Rob? or just us Aussies in general? vbg Dave On 2/18/06, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Feb 2006 at 9:17, Trevor Bailey wrote: Neither have I. Mark was asking those who have had problems

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Feb 2006 at 8:41, David Savage wrote: Maybe that says more about you than your ISP's. :-) Mark, are you trying to black list Rob? or just us Aussies in general? LOL, I couldn't even email him to ask :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now

2006-02-17 Thread David Mann
On Feb 18, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-) But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another try when they have time (and let me know how it works

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-14 Thread Bob Blakely
Well, thanks. I thought it was a personal vendetta, but didn't want to add to list misunderstanding. I apologize for the OT posts. I don't start them, but I seem constitutionally unable to withstand them without response for longer than about 30-50 irksome posts. (Though I am doing better.)

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote: I've tried to stay out of this OT thread Me too, but Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and pharmaceutical error. Most of these folks were not involved in any life or limb threatening situation. This dwarfs folks

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Norman Baugher
I think Dave just pretty much put the nail in the whole argument there...case closed. Norm dave o'brien wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Anthony Farr
Well said. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote: I've tried to stay out of this OT thread Me too, but Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and pharmaceutical

RE: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Kent Gittings
to the Washington DC area and it didn't matter. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians I've tried to stay out of this OT thread

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Anthony Farr
The previous poster was me, and I take exception to your reference to the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought (sic). FYI have a look at: http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/03/24/p7s2.htm and http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issuebriefs/australia.asp as well as

RE: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Kent Gittings
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have enacted shall issue concealed carry laws

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
are antigun related. Ciao, graywolf - Original Message - From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:02 AM Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote: I've tried to stay out of this OT thread Me too

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Blakely
. - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:46 AM Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians The previous poster was me, and I take exception to your reference to the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Isaac Crawford
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians Liberty is not about what you like not being curtailed or banned. Liberty is about ... SNIP Blah Blah Blah. Please take

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Anthony Farr
My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a private debate or had preferably chosen to SHUT THE F*** UP about their right to bear

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Paul Jones
Oh how I wish I had never unintentionally started this thread! My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a private debate or

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.
Its great entertainment. Have at it Otiose Right Anthony Far wrote: My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Anthony Farr
BTW when Bob wrote, I've tried to stay out of this OT thread, but the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought is seriously getting to me. you didn't pounce on him. Wassamatta, is he of the same opinion as you, thus excusing him from observing the same courtesies? Regards,

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-13 Thread Anthony Farr
Not your fault, Paul. You entertained us with the story of the Croc Hunter's endorsement of Pentax. The gun-lovers saw the word Australia and it was a hot button for them to hijack the thread and weigh in with their own brand of we're better-off than you and you're worse-off than us TRASH. I

RE: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-12 Thread Kent Gittings
, 2001 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians Hi Kent, Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was wondering how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from Australia. From what i have seen the average Australian doesnt

RE: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-12 Thread Kent Gittings
]' Subject: RE: OT: Re: Australians I've stayed out of this one so far, but as a naturalised Australian born in England I now gotta jump in! Kent, the presumption of innocence also applies in both England and Australia - the rule is that, in a jury trial, the jury must be satisfied 'beyond reasonable

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-12 Thread Bob Blakely
without a gun is a subject Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians Paul Jones wrote: I think

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-12 Thread dave o'brien
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have enacted shall issue concealed carry laws the violent crime rate goes down dramatically. A fact the

RE: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Kent Gittings
The Soviets were always at least a close 3rd when it came to alcohol abuse. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Australians Bill Owens

RE: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Kent Gittings
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians Paul Jones wrote: I think that referendum for a republic was defeated due to the proposed system

RE: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Kent Gittings
] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Australians I think Germany beats us. Regards Paul, who doesn't drink beer Melbourne, Aus . - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re

Re[2]: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, English law (guilty until proven innocent) this is entirely false (unless you're being tried by a Murdoch newspaper, in which case you're subject to Murdoch's laws which are of global scope with no appeal). --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not go 'Click! Click!'. I go 'click!'

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Jones
Hi Kent, Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was wondering how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from Australia. From what i have seen the average Australian doesnt have a problem with it and they find it quite scarey that in the US

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Anthony Farr
- Original Message - From: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) I was wondering how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from Australia. Seems to me here at least we would be up in arms if our government was given the police powers that yours are

OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Anthony Farr
OOPS. I forgot to answer the second point. In Australia, as in Britain, a person most certainly ~is~ innocent until proven guilty. I can't imagine why you'd think otherwise (more unreliable sources perhaps). One episode of Rumpole of the Bailey would probably teach you more about British law

Re: Re: Australians

2001-12-11 Thread Anthony Farr
UNLESS ~not~ UNTIL D'OH. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) ... a person most certainly ~is~ innocent until proven guilty. (snip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net

RE: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Kent Gittings
Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only problem was I wasn't a big drinker and they were. Kent Gittings -Original

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Kevin Waterson
Christian Skofteland wrote: If you want to learn about the TRUE Australian psyche read In a Sunburned Country The book has good insight about how Aussies view themselves and their relationship to England and the world. Or just ask some of us. We are mostly approachable and always have well

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Christian Skofteland
PM Subject: RE: Australians Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only problem was I wasn't a big drinker and they were

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Bill Owens
I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread jmadams
to have left his wife of 30 years, but there is probably more to the story than told. Just a few thoughts. James - Original Message - From: Kent Gittings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: RE: Australians Actually I admire and respect

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Paul Jones
I think Germany beats us. Regards Paul, who doesn't drink beer Melbourne, Aus . - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Australians I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Kevin Waterson
jmadams wrote: Sure it was bad for PH to have left his wife of 30 years, but there is probably more to the story than told. Even if it was just the lure of a pretty face and a truck load of money that lured him away, then the marriage may not have been that strong in the first place. But

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Australians I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I admire

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Kevin Waterson
Bill Owens wrote: I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. This is true some of the time, we do compete with the Germans on this. The under current of this is the large alcohol problem in australia, we also top the world

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Australians I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I admire

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Paul Jones
I am an Australian, I live in Byron Bay I knew you were an australian, i ment other list members :) Byron Bay has to be one of the top places in Aus to live. We stayed there for a while 2 years ago. Regards, Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: OT: Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread jmadams
I should have added, my wife lived in Australian for many years. Her mum, dad, a brother and sister still live in Wollongong. I met her in England 25 years ago, and been married 24 years. She was born in Victoria on Vancouver Island, so that's one of the reasons we emigrated to BC 2 1/2 years

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Bob Rapp
I should have got this in earlier. Australia has a land mass equal to the main land United States and a population equal to that of Texas. As a Yank in Australia, I have traveled through work to most of the major cities and a lot of bush communities both in New South Wales and

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Christian Skofteland
When I was visiting there I sent a postcard home with the same map. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Australians My favorite thing about

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Paul Jones
I think Greg Norman is really an American now :) - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Australians And speaking of wine. Another Australian icon, Greg Norman, has his name

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread Christian Skofteland
Figuratively or in reality? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Australians I think Greg Norman is really an American now :) - Original

Re: Australians

2001-12-10 Thread David A. Mann
Paul Jones wrote: I think Greg Norman is really an American now :) One of the few famous Australians who's not really from NZ :) :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children