David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Feb 18, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-)
>> But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had
>> trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it
>> another
>> try
On Feb 18, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-)
But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had
trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it
another
try when they have time (and let me know how it works out
On 18 Feb 2006 at 8:41, David Savage wrote:
> Maybe that says more about you than your ISP's. :-)
>
> Mark, are you trying to black list Rob? or just us Aussies in general?
LOL, I couldn't even email him to ask :-)
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
[EMAI
Maybe that says more about you than your ISP's. :-)
Mark, are you trying to black list Rob? or just us Aussies in general?
Dave
On 2/18/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18 Feb 2006 at 9:17, Trevor Bailey wrote:
>
> > Neither have I.
>
> Mark was asking those who have had proble
On 18 Feb 2006 at 9:17, Trevor Bailey wrote:
> Neither have I.
Mark was asking those who have had problems to reply not those who haven't :-)
I had problems, for years in fact, using two independent ISPs no less.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
[EMAIL
Neither have I.
Regards, Trevor
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From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 12:01 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Australians should be able to reach my web site now
I've never had any problems.
Dave
On 2/17/06,
Mark Roberts wrote:
...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-)
But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had
trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another
try when they have time (and let me know how it works out). My hosting
service thinks it's
No trouble reaching the web-site, Mark, and the copy of this will test your
email address.
Can't actually recall having problems before, but there you go...
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006
This one time, at band camp, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-)
> But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had
> trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another
> try when they have time (and let m
I've never had any problems.
Dave
On 2/17/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-)
> But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had
> trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another
> try when they ha
On 17 Feb 2006 at 7:37, Mark Roberts wrote:
> ...not that it's necessarily a *good* thing ;-)
> But I'd appreciate it if any PDMLers from down under who have had
> trouble accessing my web site or sending me email wouold give it another
> try when they have time (and let me know how it works out).
Well, thanks. I thought it was a personal "vendetta", but didn't want to add
to list misunderstanding. I apologize for the OT posts. I don't start them,
but I seem constitutionally unable to withstand them without response for
longer than about 30-50 irksome posts. (Though I am doing better.) Fran
Not your fault, Paul. You entertained us with the story of the Croc
Hunter's endorsement of Pentax. The gun-lovers saw the word "Australia"
and it was a hot button for them to hijack the thread and weigh in with
their own brand of "we're better-off than you and you're worse-off than
us" TRASH.
BTW when Bob wrote,
> I've tried to stay out of this OT thread, but the level of ignorance
and of
> and paucity of rational thought is seriously getting to me.
you didn't pounce on him. Wassamatta, is he of the same opinion as you,
thus excusing him from observing the same courtesies?
Regards,
Yes they are. Trash. Rubbish. Garbarge. Utterly useless stuff.
If they're wrong then they're useless, or worse. IMO trash.
What was also trash was the hypocricy about source data personally
generated, followed by Bob's use of data from another source. Nothing
wrong with that EXCEPT that Bo
Anthony Farr wrote:
>
> My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
>snip<
>
> My rebuttal of Bob's trash is in-line, below.
>
Apology not accepted. Bob's opinions quite obviously differ from yours,
but that doesn't make them trash. Even if they're wrong, they're n
Its great entertainment. Have at it
Otiose Right
Anthony Far wrote:
> My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
> debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
> defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this
Oh how I wish I had never unintentionally started this thread!
> My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
> debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
> defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a
> private debate
My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a
private debate or had preferably chosen to SHUT THE F*** UP about their
right to bear ar
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From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
>
> Liberty is not about what you like not being curtailed or banned. Liberty
is
> about ...
B
by an entirely different
government.
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From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
> The "previous poster" was me, and I take exceptio
aths" are
antigun related.
Ciao,
graywolf
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From: Chris Stoddart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
>
> > I&
4:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I
> ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have
> enacted "shall issue&q
The "previous poster" was me, and I take exception to your reference to
"the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought" (sic).
FYI have a look at:
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/03/24/p7s2.htm
and
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issuebriefs/australia.asp
as well as
http:/
cal "good ol' boy" he got sent back up to the Washington DC area and it
didn't matter.
Kent Gittings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: R
Well said.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: "Chris Stoddart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
>
> > I've tried to stay out of this OT thread
>
> Me too, but
>
> > Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and
> > phar
I think Dave just pretty much put the nail in the whole argument there...case
closed.
Norm
dave o'brien wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
>
> > I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I
> > ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics sh
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:
> I've tried to stay out of this OT thread
Me too, but
> Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and
> pharmaceutical error. Most of these folks were not involved in any life or
> limb threatening situation. This dwarfs folks ki
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I
> ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have
> enacted "shall issue" concealed carry laws the violent crime rate goes down
> dramatically. A fact
oes:
> > "A man with a gun is a citizen"
> > "A man without a gun is a subject"
> > Kent Gittings
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson
> > Sent: Monday
2:03 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OT: Re: Australians
I've stayed out of this one so far, but as a naturalised Australian born in
England I now gotta jump in!
Kent, the presumption of innocence also applies in both England and
Australia -
the rule is that, in a jury trial,
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
Hi Kent,
> Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was
wondering
> how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from
> Australia.
>From what i
"UNLESS" ~not~ "UNTIL"
D'OH.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(snip)
> ... a person most certainly ~is~ innocent until proven guilty.
> (snip)
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OOPS. I forgot to answer the second point. In Australia, as in
Britain, a person most certainly ~is~ innocent until proven guilty. I
can't imagine why you'd think otherwise (more unreliable sources
perhaps). One episode of "Rumpole of the Bailey" would probably teach
you more about British law
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From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(snip)
> I was wondering
> how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted
from
> Australia. Seems to me here at least we would be up in arms if our
> government was given the police powers that yours
Hi Kent,
> Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was
wondering
> how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from
> Australia.
>From what i have seen the average Australian doesnt have a problem with it
and they find it quite scarey that in the
Hi,
> English law (guilty until proven innocent)
this is entirely false (unless you're being tried by a Murdoch
newspaper, in which case you're subject to Murdoch's laws which are of
global scope with no appeal).
---
Bob
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I do not go 'Click! Click!'. I go 'click!'
>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Australians
> I think Germany beats us.
>
> Regards
> Paul, who doesn't drink beer
> Melbourne, Aus
> .
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
"
Kent Gittings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians
Paul Jones wrote:
>
> I think that referendum for a republic was de
The Soviets were always at least a close 3rd when it came to alcohol abuse.
Kent Gittings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Australians
Bill Owens
Paul Jones wrote:
> I think Greg Norman is really an American now :)
One of the few famous Australians who's not really from NZ :) :)
Cheers,
- Dave
David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
"Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up,
while children
Figuratively or in reality?
Christian Skofteland
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From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: Australians
> I think Greg Norman
I think Greg Norman is really an American now :)
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From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Australians
> And speaking of wine. Another Australian i
CTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Australians
> But.
> Talk to a Aussie about wine and you are in for a real treat. Australia
> and New Zealand produce some of the finest in the world. The exports to
> England exceed what England import from France!
When I was visiting there I sent a postcard home with the same map.
Christian Skofteland
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From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Australians
I should have got this in earlier.
Australia has a land mass equal to the main land United States and a
population equal to that of Texas.
As a "Yank" in Australia, I have traveled through work to most of the
major cities and a lot of "bush" communities both in New South Wales and
Queens
I should have added, my wife lived in Australian for many years. Her mum,
dad, a brother and sister still live in Wollongong. I met her in England 25
years ago, and been married 24 years. She was born in Victoria on Vancouver
Island, so that's one of the reasons we emigrated to BC 2 1/2 years ag
> I am an Australian, I live in Byron Bay
I knew you were an australian, i ment other list members :)
Byron Bay has to be one of the top places in Aus to live. We stayed there
for a while 2 years ago.
Regards,
Paul
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> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Australians
>
> > I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on
> > Ea
Bill Owens wrote:
> I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on
> Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks.
This is true some of the time, we do compete with the Germans on this.
The under current of this is the large alcohol problem in australia, we also
top the worl
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> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Australians
>
> > I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on
> > Ea
jmadams wrote:
> Sure it was bad for PH
> to have left his wife of 30 years, but there is probably more to the story
> than told.
>
Even if it was just the lure of a pretty face and a truck load of money that
lured him away, then the marriage may not have been that strong in the
first place. Bu
I think Germany beats us.
Regards
Paul, who doesn't drink beer
Melbourne, Aus
.
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From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Australians
> I've heard that A
bad for PH
to have left his wife of 30 years, but there is probably more to the story
than told.
Just a few thoughts.
James
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From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: Austr
I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on
Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks.
Bill, KG4LOV
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> Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a
> stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English
look
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Australians
> Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a
> stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English
look
> down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only prob
Christian Skofteland wrote:
>
> If you want to learn about the TRUE Australian psyche read "In a Sunburned
> Country" The book has good insight about how Aussies view themselves and
> their relationship to England and the world.
Or just ask some of us. We are mostly approachable and always have
Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a
stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look
down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only problem
was I wasn't a big drinker and they were.
Kent Gittings
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