Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-22 Thread P. J. Alling
As real scientists MIT should be ashamed. SJ wrote: > On 1/22/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> then why did you bother? >>> >> Because I'm tired of the crap. >> > > you take the words out of my keyboard > > >> I did a bit of real research, Human Rights Watch

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:38 AM, SJ wrote: > the US > isn't perceived as being very different Utter nonsense. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-22 Thread SJ
On 1/22/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good God man, how did you last that long. > > > On 1/22/07, SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sorry for replying late to this, i have been travelling and staying > > away from the Net for the last ten days. dave, :) it's my once-a-year test

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-22 Thread David Savage
Good God man, how did you last that long. Dave On 1/22/07, SJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry for replying late to this, i have been travelling and staying > away from the Net for the last ten days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-21 Thread SJ
On 1/22/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > then why did you bother? > Because I'm tired of the crap. you take the words out of my keyboard > I did a bit of real research, Human Rights Watch for the estimate of > the Kurdish death toll. www.GlobalSecurity.org has a nice set o

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-21 Thread P. J. Alling
> > then why did you bother? Because I'm tired of the crap. I did a bit of real research, Human Rights Watch for the estimate of the Kurdish death toll. www.GlobalSecurity.org has a nice set of numbers for the Iran Iraq war estimates, they agree in general with several other sources. www.kuwa

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-21 Thread SJ
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:41:58 -0500 "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are not even worth arguing with. then why did you bother? [...] > The estimates of how many Iraqis this amounts to in total is > estimated on the low end to 2 hundred thousand, and on the high end 8 > million, (i

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > I should have elaborated & stated "I detest their efforts to bring their > country (& customs) with them & enforce them on the rest of us." Could be you're right. > Perhaps if you lived in the U.S. of A you'd feel different if you > experienced things here. I visited USA three times as

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Dag, > Thanks Boris. > > Somehow, but I donĀ“t remember why, that does not surprise me. I > remember him as being controversial. There're different shades of gray (like degrees of controversy). This guy is off my chart. ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob Sullivan wrote: > Thanks Boris, > I had no idea! > Regards, Bob S. Anytime, Bob. Anytime. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Doug Franklin
John Poirier wrote: > Encounters between vehicles and bison are commonplace. Now /that's/ a close encounter of the vehicular kind that I'd really prefer to avoid. The fairly small white tails in the US Southeast are more than enough. I'd rather hit a tire wall, for sure ... a quad isn't nearly

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread William Robb
> Bob Sullivan wrote: >> I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, >> thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the >> secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night > raids >> would have been met with a loaded gun. Of course they wo

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Someone's bad at math. The government can concentrate force against a single law breaker or small group easily. If the whole population is armed and loses faith in the legitimacy of the government's actions the police will be exchanging their uniforms for civilian cloths and taking their guns

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Bob W
Bob Sullivan wrote: > I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, > thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the > secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night raids > would have been met with a loaded gun. > Regards, Bob S. why wo

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread DagT
Den 11. jan. 2007 kl. 20.04 skrev Boris Liberman: > Bob, > > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, >> thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the >> secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night raids >>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Boris, I had no idea! Regards, Bob S. On 1/11/07, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob, > > Bob Sullivan wrote: > > I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, > > thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the > > secret police were

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Bob W
We have buffalo roaming in Britain too. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: 11 January 2007 15:00 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > Ame

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I saw the pic and can tell you that it was very creatively and artistically photographed, but it is not for publication on this forum based on previously posted pics. I'd like to have seen it in B&W and with a tighter crop . Cloning the legs and head back in place would have improved the symmetry

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Brendan MacRae
It's true. The wing is the best part of the buffalo. -Brendan --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: PESO - American Fe

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
ail List" Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > Could you post them? > > Shel > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> I've got some rather gory pictures

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
I heard you once had a Mohawk. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "David Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:42 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >> Isn't that what the Apache said? > > My Apache

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Done right they taste like buffalo chili. Tom C wrote: >> From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:40:10 -0800 (PST) >

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, Bob Sullivan wrote: > I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, > thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the > secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night raids > would have been met with a loaded gun. > Regards, Bob S.

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Tom C
>From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:40:10 -0800 (PST) > >I just had some buffalo chilli and it was great! > >-Brendan Yeah, bu

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Responses (for the last time) are interspersed below - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > Ken, I see what you're saying. Or at least I hope I do. However the > phrase "I don't hate fore

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Brendan MacRae
???! -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > > > Like I said before, even if some anthropologist > comes > > across evidence of the most brutal tribe in the > > history of man, > > They already have. > > > I won't be sway

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Brendan MacRae
I just had some buffalo chilli and it was great! -Brendan --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > American Bison are far from extinct, although they > were pushed very close > to the edge of extinction. There are numerous herds > in North America, > although their numbers are far lower t

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread John Poirier
taxImages/photo#5018 825172355102226 John Poirier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 11, 2007 8:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence I believe that Montana has had to initiate a bison huntin

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread pnstenquist
I believe that Montana has had to initiate a bison hunting season to thin the herd. As expected, these creatures do quite well in their native habitat. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > American Bison are far from extinct, alt

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Gonz
You will also find them in healthy numbers in Catalina Island, off the coast of Los Angeles. Hollywood put them there for movies also, now they are a tourist attraction and occasionally attack the wierd buses that take tourists up the road. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > American Bison are fa

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
American Bison are far from extinct, although they were pushed very close to the edge of extinction. There are numerous herds in North America, although their numbers are far lower than the were 150 years ago. Even in the 1960's one could buy "buffalo" meat in some areas, Yellowstone National par

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Christian
David Mann wrote: > On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:42 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >> Isn't that what the Apache said? > > My Apache keeps saying 404. > > At least I don't have an Oracle. I just wear a RedHat. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.n

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Could you post them? Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've got some rather gory pictures here showing what happens when a > black bear catches a man. It isn't pretty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread frank theriault
On 1/10/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is well, just wrong. The methods of how diseases were transmitted > just wasn't well enough understood to run a campaign using such a > weapon. You didn't need to do it on purpose, it seems that moderns have > forgotten just virulent smal

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:42 PM, mike wilson wrote: > Isn't that what the Apache said? My Apache keeps saying 404. At least I don't have an Oracle. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread David Mann
On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:03 AM, K.Takeshita wrote: > Flip side of this is, depending on the type of care, you may have > to wait > for a long time. For example, several years ago, MRI scan had a long > waiting list up to 6 months etc simply because of insufficient number. Here the government was

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-11 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of P. J. Alling > Sent: 11 January 2007 01:35 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > This is well, just wrong. The methods of how diseases wer

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Gonz
Thats where it gets murky. Because of the size of the skeletons, they were considerably larger than modern humans, but still within the range of modern man. The teeth are purported to have been very large also. The cranial capacity does indicate Homo Sapiens. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > They w

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Boris Liberman
> I didn't sense that you were Ken (trying to force the same suit). > > I think your point has been that you are willing to take toleration to about > any extreme. But when those for whom you have a natural tolerance, begin to > infringe on your freedoms then they are overstepping their bounds.

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > The better idea is to stop encroaching on their natural habitat & > separate man & bear. You'll seperate me from my beer when the Riders win the Grey Cup. William Robb --

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
They were also fully "modern humans", who we know are adaptable, and in many ways as hard to kill as a cockroach. Gonz wrote: > Well, here's the archeological evidence that led the author to that > conclusion: > * they had no agricultural technology, i.e. they were hunter gatherers, > thi

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Ken, I see what you're saying. Or at least I hope I do. However the phrase "I don't hate foreigners, but I detest their efforts to bring their country with them.", which I guess you remember, evidently can be understood in more than one way. I am very much willing to accept that the way I under

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >> Bill, you're the greatest Mark!! HAR William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
The better idea is to stop encroaching on their natural habitat & separate man & bear. I've got some rather gory pictures here showing what happens when a black bear catches a man. It isn't pretty. Cheers, Dave On 1/11/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally subscribe to the

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Gonz
Well, here's the archeological evidence that led the author to that conclusion: * they had no agricultural technology, i.e. they were hunter gatherers, this came from their fossilized remains + the remains of their prey * they were huge, large skulls and bones * their weap

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well there certainly was a period of global warming following the last ice age. Whether or not it had anything to do with the demise of this ancient civilization is obviously uncertain. Paul On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Oh, I agree that there were precursors to the curre

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh, I agree that there were precursors to the current Native Americans, there's a fare amount of evidence, of them, but global warming killing them off, really. That's what's silly. Gonz wrote: > What's silly about it. Its not talking about the native americans that > were here when the Europ

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Gonz
What's silly about it. Its not talking about the native americans that were here when the Europeans arrived. Its talking about their predecessors. How do you explain their archeological remains? rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's just silly... > > Gonz wrote: > >>A book I'm reading righ

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > Like I said before, even if some anthropologist comes > across evidence of the most brutal tribe in the > history of man, They already have. > I won't be swayed on my belief that > Native Americans were a remarkable people. Besides, > looking

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/10/07 8:13 PM, "P. J. Alling", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a theory that Mohawk is derived either from the Narraganset word > for man-eater or the Unami term that translates as cannibal-monsters. > Whether it was due to their warlike nature or actual eating of human > flesh it could

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Actually you're incorrect. The smallpox infected blanket trick was most certainly understood and the use thereof against the plains tribes is recorded historical fact. Note this only occured 150 years ago, when people already had a basic understanding of infectious diseases (Didn't now how they

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Brendan MacRae
that was where that notion > was > >>> heading. If not, my bad. > >>> > >>> ;-] > >>> > >>> -Brendan > >>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>>> No one suggested anything of the kind. My > >>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
entax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:56:36 -0600 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: PESO - Ameri

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
This is well, just wrong. The methods of how diseases were transmitted just wasn't well enough understood to run a campaign using such a weapon. You didn't need to do it on purpose, it seems that moderns have forgotten just virulent smallpox is and what it does to un-protected populations. N

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Christian" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > >> David Savage wrote: >>> Which raises another question, how expensive is private health insurance? >> As far as I know, it doesn't e

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Brendan MacRae
t; >>> It just seemed like that was where that notion > was > >>> heading. If not, my bad. > >>> > >>> ;-] > >>> > >>> -Brendan > >>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>>> No one suggested anything of the kind. My >> original >>>> post was in response to a suggestion that life >> in >>>> North America was idyllic before the arrival of >>>> Europeans. >>>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
nybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates >>>>> to me. >>>>> >>>>> Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the >>>>> violence. That's also logical. >>>>> >>>>> Tom C. >

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
>> original >> >>>> post was in response to a suggestion that life >>>> >> in >> >>>> North America was idyllic before the arrival of >>>> Europeans. >>>> Paul >>>> -- Origin

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Here in Canada almost all shootings are drug/gang related or accidental. Deaths from suicides, armed robberies and domestic disputes are overwhelmingly via other means. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > Most shootings are suicides, followed in no particular order since I > don't know the breakdown,

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >While this is wildly OT (usually, title and the contents part each other > >in >>a matter of hours in this list :-),

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > - Original Message - > From: "Christian" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > >> David Savage wrote: >>> Which raises another question, how expensive is private health >>> insuranc

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Most shootings are suicides, followed in no particular order since I don't know the breakdown, by domestic, armed robbery, drug related, or gang related and accidental discharge, (which covers a multiple of sins). I suppose any of them might involve fear, but I don't think it's a valid stateme

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Regina had 8 homicides last year, I think half a dozen were gunshots. Hell, New Orleans has had almost that many since the start of 07! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > &g

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Tom C wrote: >> Too many people look at the marginal production cost of the pills and >> say the drug companies are ripping us off, not remembering the billions >> the first production pill costs these companies, and the incredible mass >> of regulations that they work under (which protects us, but

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Tom C
>Too many people look at the marginal production cost of the pills and >say the drug companies are ripping us off, not remembering the billions >the first production pill costs these companies, and the incredible mass >of regulations that they work under (which protects us, but >significantly raise

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > >> So much for reports that gun murders are out of control. The media >> was more than happy to scream to the world how violent Toronto and

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Shel, That's true for the plains tribes. It's not for the north american native population of which they were a small fraction. The examples you site occured centuries after the original vigin field epidemics that I'm referring to. In fact those epidemics and that major die-off are how the Eur

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
DagT wrote: > Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 15.54 skrev Adam Maas: > >> David Savage wrote: >>> On 1/10/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Interestingly, the Americans seem to be flocking to Canadian pharmacies to take advantage of our much lower drug costs. >>> Does the Canadian

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
at was where that notion was >>> heading. If not, my bad. >>> >>> ;-] >>> >>> -Brendan >>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>>> No one suggested anything of the kind. My >> original >>>> post was

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > Rape, incest, torture, and cannibalism are nothing? Sorry, but the view of > the native American world as idyllic is the stuff of storybooks. Sounds like last week in Arkansas. Or Prince A

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > I recall way back in grade 7 or 8, my teacher Mr. Wagner (wherever he > is now) telling us that America is a melting pot, and we're a salad > bowl. Immigrants come to you

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Tom C
>While this is wildly OT (usually, title and the contents part each other in >a matter of hours in this list :-), this is interesting history, but sorry, >I got lost somewhere. >Are bison now extinct (or near extinct) or just endangered specie? >I thought I saw a lot of them in western movies in th

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Tom C
And here I thought Buffalo Bill was to blame. Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:56:36 -0600 > &g

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > David Savage wrote: >> Which raises another question, how expensive is private health insurance? > > As far as I know, it doesn't exist in Canada. Sure it does. In my neck o

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > So much for reports that gun murders are out of control. The media > was more than happy to scream to the world how violent Toronto and > Canada are becoming; they seem oddly

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > frank theriault wrote: >> In addition, the slaughter, almost to extinction, of the American >> Bison was a conscientious attempt to eliminate something that, both >> p

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/10/07 6:48 PM, "Shel Belinkoff", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's only partially correct, but it's also a load bullshit, literally. > Bison were killed for sport and for their skins. There were bounties put > on bison and hunters were encouraged to massacre them. The extermination > of t

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's only partially correct, but it's also a load bullshit, literally. Bison were killed for sport and for their skins. There were bounties put on bison and hunters were encouraged to massacre them. The extermination of the bison was instigated in large part by the British who wanted to starve

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not true ... they were purposely infected with smallpox and possibly other diseases, and the plains Indians had there main food source, the buffalo, almost completed wiped out. It was genocide, pure and simple. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Adam Maas > The primary reason for the massiv

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Brendan MacRae
inal > > > post was in response to a suggestion that life > in > > > North America was idyllic before the arrival of > > > Europeans. > > > Paul > > > -- Original message > > > -- > > >

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread DagT
ter >>>> for no one >>>> to be armed than anybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates >>>> to me. >>>> >>>> Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the >>>> violence. That's also logical. >

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
find a way to stop the > >> violence. That's also logical. > >> > >> Tom C. > >> > >> > >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> To: Penta

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
;>> to be armed than anybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates >>> to me. >>> >>> Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the >>> violence. That's also logical. >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread DagT
Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 15.54 skrev Adam Maas: > David Savage wrote: >> On 1/10/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Interestingly, the Americans seem to be flocking to Canadian >>> pharmacies to >>> take advantage of our much lower drug costs. >> >> Does the Canadian government subsidi

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread DagT
We have more guns per 1000 persons than you but you have more people killed by guns per 1000 persons. OK, I assumed that people use their guns against people because of fear. If that is not correct, then why do they kill? DagT Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 22.26 skrev P. J. Alling: > HUH? > > DagT

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Bob W
> a place so isolated that it would take the police hours to > get there (such places surely exist in Canada, and in the US as well), ...in London, too! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread DagT
t;> Tom C. >> >> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:34:22 -0500 >>&g

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Bob W
Could have been with a long range rifle fired from the USA! :o) -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: 10 January 2007 13:51 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread pnstenquist
The device in question isn't a nuclear bomb. It's a tactical weapon that develops only a tiny fraction of the power unleashed by the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima. Still, I would prefer that this type of weapon is never used. And I think we can assume that it never will be used unless it be

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Tom C
would have only resulted in more death on both sides. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:48:24 -0600

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
That's just silly... Gonz wrote: > A book I'm reading right now indicates that the evidence points to these > first settlers to have been done in by.drum roll please "Global > Warming". Yup, the melting of the last Ice Age drove all the > elephant-like creatures and huge jumbo bison fu

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Tom C
LOL. The number of humans and bears killed by firearms would surely shrink. Tom C. >From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: >Subject: PESO - American Fence >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:22:36 -0500 > >I personally subscribe to the growing philosophy t

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > P. J. Alling > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:34 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > > There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the > province of governments. A single person with

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > frank theriault > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:31 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > > On 1/9/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I bel

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Gonz
A book I'm reading right now indicates that the evidence points to these first settlers to have been done in by.drum roll please "Global Warming". Yup, the melting of the last Ice Age drove all the elephant-like creatures and huge jumbo bison further north and eventually to extinction.

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/10/07 4:06 PM, "Markus Maurer", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In lthe Monday New Zurich newspaper I have read that a nation (which name I > will not mention here for good reason) has concrete plans to attack 3 atom > fabric locations in the Iran with nuclear bombs. Anyone who even have a pas

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
HUH? DagT wrote: > That may be, but a larger percentage use it against other people. > > DagT > > Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 17.46 skrev P. J. Alling: > > >> There are very few people in the US who feel the need to use them >> either. >> >> DagT wrote: >> Fra: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROT

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread pnstenquist
7;t wait for WW III it seems :-( > Markus > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > P. J. Alling > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:34 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence &

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually it was a little of both. But even after the pacification of the natives the slaughter continued to supply the delicacy of Buffalo tongue, and because the Bison were a nuisance delaying trains by taking shelter from storms in railroad cuts which kept trains from using them, and damagin

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