Break it, then fix it.
Dave
On 8/23/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it ain't broke...
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On 23/08/06, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, note that on the implementation (PC side) of SD readers, you
> will get a dedicated chip connected by USB or Firewire which is
> necessary to read an SD.
>
> A CF reader *can* be passive because CF is based of IDE standard. I
> can put a CF
On 23/08/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This information predates the release of the K100, which by all
> accounts is in huge demand. My local camera store, which sold only a
> handful of the various D models, tells me that the K100 and DA lenses
> are now among their top sellers.
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi:
> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:49:42 -0700
> I've dropped SD cards into my pants or shirt pocket with no ill
> effects. Accidentally put one through the washing machine once, it
> had no problems afterwards.
So THATS how you do your colour to B&W
Also, note that on the implementation (PC side) of SD readers, you
will get a dedicated chip connected by USB or Firewire which is
necessary to read an SD.
A CF reader *can* be passive because CF is based of IDE standard. I
can put a CF card (type1 or 2) on a very simple adapter (needs only
power)
On 8/23/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23/08/06, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What attitude? If you want to complain about something, I'd recommend
> > the stop-down coupler which is currently missing from the digital
> > SLRs, btw.
> > Actuall
Aaron,
It's nice to see Pentax doing beter, and especially nice that those
results come from the camera side. However, even the camera results are
far below "best ever", especially if you take inflation into account.
What's really good is that the camera side is now the best performing
div
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:54:35 +0100, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, inter alia:
- get rid of that goofy smiling
> face and the silly flower on the mode dial, replace them with a "broad"
> wearing a tight sweater and packing a .38 - and would make me very happy.
Two 38s would be eve
This information predates the release of the K100, which by all
accounts is in huge demand. My local camera store, which sold only a
handful of the various D models, tells me that the K100 and DA lenses
are now among their top sellers. According to them, it's a sea change.
Paul
On Aug 23, 2006,
ws an historical trend: people prefer
little & less quality than bigger & better quality.
I expect this to continue...
2006/8/23, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shel Belinkoff"
> Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>
>
>
A 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC is available from Sigma BTW.
Yes I know what most people think about Sigma, I agree but when
there's no alternative: why not...
2006/8/23, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist"
> Subject:
- Original Message -
From: "Aaron Reynolds"
Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>
> On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>
>> And whilst I agree that the Pentax bodies are selling well at the
>> moment I'm still not convinced that the volu
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From: "Paul Stenquist"
Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
> If I was sitting on an A 15/3.5, I would move it and replace it with
> the DA 12-24, but that's just me.
I thought of that, after buying the 14/2.8.
The thing is, if I need a really wide a
On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:57 AM, David Savage wrote:
> "2. An outline of financial and business results for the first quarter
> of
> 2006 business year
> (from April 1, 2006 to June 30, 2006):"
Hrm -- I'll have to place an inquiry as to where the numbers I was fed
come from.
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From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>
> instead of complaining, I might want to look at the smaller digi
> sensor as
> just a different format, and to stop comparing it to 35mm. That made
> sense.
It made enough sense t
On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:21 AM, David Savage wrote:
> It says on the first page.
Care to share? I'm reading my mail on my Palm, and its PDF support is,
well, substandard.
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"2. An outline of financial and business results for the first quarter of
2006 business year
(from April 1, 2006 to June 30, 2006):"
Dave
At 12:49 PM 23/08/2006, you wrote:
>On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:21 AM, David Savage wrote:
>
> > It says on the first page.
>
>Care to share? I'm reading my mai
At 12:14 PM 23/08/2006, you wrote:
>On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:01 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>
> > From: Outline of Finances and Business Results in 1st Quarter of 2006
> > Business Year (Consolidated)
>
>What months are those?
It says on the first page.
Dave
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On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:01 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> From: Outline of Finances and Business Results in 1st Quarter of 2006
> Business Year (Consolidated)
What months are those?
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On 23/08/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>
> > And whilst I agree that the Pentax bodies are selling well at the
> > moment I'm still not convinced that the volume is sustainable or
> > particularly profitable as they appear
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> And whilst I agree that the Pentax bodies are selling well at the
> moment I'm still not convinced that the volume is sustainable or
> particularly profitable as they appear to be priced ridiculously low.
And yet somehow their camera div
It's just my gut feeling, nothing scientific.
But I'm of the opinion that optically my FA28-105mm f4-5.6 PZ &
FA80-200 f2.8 outperform my DA16-45 f4 & DA10-17 f3.5-4.5. Probably
because when using the FA's on digital your taking advantage of the
lens sweet spot. With the reduced image circle of th
Doug Franklin wrote:
>
>
>
> CF cards are harder (for me, anyway) to lose, and they're easier to
> manipulate than SD cards. And, if you have any loss of mobility in your
> fingers or hands, ease of manipulation is a _big_ deal. I really don't
> care fo
John Forbes wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:11:28 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 22/8/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> I've dropped SD cards into my pants ... with no ill
> >> effects
>
&g
My experience is exactly the opposite. However, one has to compare
zooms to zooms and primes to primes. Thus far, all my DA lenses are
zooms. I doubt that Pentax has regressed in optical technology.
Paul
On Aug 22, 2006, at 10:46 PM, David Savage wrote:
> I agree about the CA, but I've noticed
I agree about the CA, but I've noticed that DA lenses aren't as sharp
or contrasty as my FA lenses. YMMV.
Dave (yet to be convinced that DA's are any better than FA's)
On 8/23/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The image circle of DA lenses is better suited to the size of the
> senso
Not true. I've worked all my life in the advertising and marketing
biz. You don't throw away an owner base. Pentax has a history of
recognizing the value of that base. I'm sure they will continue to do
so.
Paul
On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> Because the marketers are in c
I doubt that I will buy a 645D. I think the K10 will meet my needs.
I've found that I can please all of my clients with *istD images.
That list includes a number of well respected publications and a
range of stock buyers. I'm a little fussier than some of them, so I
would prefer a slight up
Because the marketers are in charge now. I've dealt with marketing
companies, I've worked for them. 1 day beyond 5 years is eternity for
for a marketing company, don't expect a plan or a promise to last beyond
that.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
>Pentax is building a base with APS-C and DA lenses. I
On 23/08/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pentax is building a base with APS-C and DA lenses. I doubt that
> you'll see them dump them with a camera that won't accept DA lenses.
> Pentax has repeatedly said that it's large sensor pro camera will be
> the 645D. Why do we continue to d
Okay:-).
Paul
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 23/08/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> They haven't backed themselves into a corner. They made a business
>> decision based on sensor cost vs. the quality that could be achieved
>> with APS-C. Based on the
Pentax is building a base with APS-C and DA lenses. I doubt that
you'll see them dump them with a camera that won't accept DA lenses.
Pentax has repeatedly said that it's large sensor pro camera will be
the 645D. Why do we continue to doubt them?
Paul
On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:16 PM, P. J. Alling
I'm not insisting on FF, but I expect Pentax to introduce FF as soon as
1.) the technology permits a cost effective FF camera. or 2.) Pentax
builds it's user base enough to sell a super flagship, (I won't call it
professional), body, and expect to sell enough of them for it to at
least recover
On 23/08/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They haven't backed themselves into a corner. They made a business
> decision based on sensor cost vs. the quality that could be achieved
> with APS-C. Based on the way things are going in terms of both new
> products and sales, it looks like
I'm no optics expert, although I played one on a local TV show
A while ago Bruce and I met for dinner, and I "kinda komplained" about the
lack of a Pentax camera with a "full frame" sensor. Bruce pointed out that
using a 24x36 frame can often result in soft and poorly defined edges due,
as you s
You're a braver man than I...
Bob W wrote:
>I do
>
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> Bob
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of P. J. Alling
>>Sent: 22 August 2006 17:03
>>To: Pentax-Disc
any new lenses?
Paul
On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Tom C wrote:
>> From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
>> Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>> Date: Wed, 23 A
They haven't backed themselves into a corner. They made a business
decision based on sensor cost vs. the quality that could be achieved
with APS-C. Based on the way things are going in terms of both new
products and sales, it looks like they made the right decision. The
only brigade that's
>I guess part of the problem with moving forward at this point is that
>they've backed themselves into a corner to a degree, moving to full
>frame sensor technologies will have the cropped lens brigade screaming
>like stuck pigs.
>
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No offense intended.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Digital Image Studio
> Sent: 22 August 2006 22:22
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>
> On 23/08/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> &
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>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:53:58 -0700
>
>It was a no-brainer for me to stick with a Pentax DSLR since I could use my
>older lenses with it. IMO, it&#x
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Frankly, I'd rather buy some new cards than buy 10 or 20 lenses.
Amen. Especially stuff like the FA* 200/2.8 and F* 300/4 ... they were
hard enough to get for a reasonable price the first time around.
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> When they "discovered" that some people wanted to use thirty year-old lenses ?
>
> You are kidding, dropping the aperture simulator was no more than a
> bold move by marketing to create a demand for new lenses.
Absolutely. Rather than let the new *real* features of newer
lenses (Progr
It was a no-brainer for me to stick with a Pentax DSLR since I could use my
older lenses with it. IMO, it's not only loyalty but smart marketing. In
fact, some of the press releases I've read on the new cameras make a point
of the cameras being able to use 30+ yo lenses. And don't think word of
On 23/08/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you mean like when they decided to go with APS-C and call the new lenses
> 'digital lenses'? Which all the mfrs, did as a means to get into the DLSR
> market quickly, cut costs on DSLR production, and sell a wagonload of new
> lenses?
>
> Like tha
>From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:17:09 +1000
>
>On 23/08/06, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
On 23/08/06, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> You are ridiculous. The attitude Pentax has displayed over lenses is that
> it has kept better compatibility than any other manufacturer, and shows no
> sign of changing that now. When they discovered that some people wanted
> to use
On 23/08/06, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What attitude? If you want to complain about something, I'd recommend
> the stop-down coupler which is currently missing from the digital
> SLRs, btw.
> Actually I think that supporting a single card format (SD. Well, the
> *istD i
On 23/08/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do
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On 22/8/06, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed:
>It's not the money. It's the attitude Pentax has displayed.
Joseph. I am a Canon shooter now, tried and tested. Pentax blew me off
by teasing me with the MZ-D and just as i was waiting to pounce - it was
whisked away out of reach. I skulked off a
On 22/8/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>lol ... the card, of course. hey, i just found a piece of the casing
>for my old Sony flash drive in the pants pocket too... been through
>the wash several times, and it mated up perfectly, I've glued it back
>together now. ;-)
Let
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
> Sent: 22 August 2006 16:02
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>
> I always carry my cards in either a small, individual ca
I do
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of P. J. Alling
> Sent: 22 August 2006 17:03
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
>
> I don't see anyone changing those in t
Since I seldom shoot more than a burst of three I hardly notice.
However as I said it's mixed bag with the DL vs the D you can make a
valid argument either way. One thing the D has over the DS/DL[2] is the
shape of it hand grip. Yes I know the later cameras are much easier to
grip than the D
this:
>>
>>If Pentax's new attitude is "back of the hand" to their customers'
>>investments, what is to keep them from abandoning the AF drive shaft
>>sometime shortly after the KAF3 mount comes out?
>>
>>Yep, SD cards are inexpensive, but a
The D has about 1 extra shot available over the DL. So you lose 1 shot
and gain the ability to not wait a minute before shooting again.
-Adam
P. J. Alling wrote:
> I wouldn't put the DL in that category. It may write to the card
> faster, and will clearly benefit from a faster card. But the
ould like to keep
> using our CF cards, consider this:
>
> If Pentax's new attitude is "back of the hand" to their customers'
> investments, what is to keep them from abandoning the AF drive shaft
> sometime shortly after the KAF3 mount comes out?
>
> Yep
uying it without giving the
competition a good look.
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From: jtainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 12:51 pm
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F
I wouldn't put the DL in that category. It may write to the card
faster, and will clearly benefit from a faster card. But the D has a
larger buffer so it's first few shots will be faster. Then it will slow
down and depending on the card speed maybe fall behind. Pentax giveth
Pentax taketh a
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>
> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj: Re: CF v SD Cards
> Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 1:46 pm
> Size: 1K
> To: pdml@pdml.net
&g
bursts
one after another.
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Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 1:46 pm
Size: 1K
To: pdml@pdml.net
Shooting .jpgs or RAW? H
graywolf wrote:
> Yes, everyone knows that. What they don't seem to know is that limit is
> in the millions of cycles range. Hardly something for the ordinary
> consumer to worry about.
>
The numbers I've seen are closer to 10,000 writes per cell than a
million. Of course it's been a couple of
speed, I'd take
the 2x buffer (but I'm going off on a tangent).
Tom C.
"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered."
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To: "Pentax-Discu
I'd say about twice as fast, maybe a bit more ... at least for the DS/DS2
and the DL series. Can't speak to the newer cameras.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Tom C
>
> You wrote "The *ist D isn't worth comparing, speed-wise, as even Pentax's
> cheapest DSLR
> outperforms it by a large ma
On 8/22/06, jtainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's not the money. It's the attitude Pentax has displayed.
>
> Joe
>
What attitude? If you want to complain about something, I'd recommend
the stop-down coupler which is currently missing from the digital
SLRs, btw.
Actually I think that support
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Subject: Re: 4 GB SD cards for istDS/DS2, istDL/DL2
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:17:02 -0400
Yes, everyone knows that. What they don't seem to know is that limit is
in the millions of cycles range. Hardly something for the ordinary
consumer to
On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, jtainter wrote:
> For those of you who bought only the DS (or later) model, and feel
> that you need to criticise those who bought the D and would like to
> keep using our CF cards, consider this:
>
> If Pentax's new attitude is "back of the hand" to their custome
ught the D and would
> like to keep using our CF cards, consider this:
>
> If Pentax's new attitude is "back of the hand" to their customers'
> investments, what is to keep them from abandoning the AF drive
> shaft sometime shortly after the KAF3 mount comes out
Yes, everyone knows that. What they don't seem to know is that limit is
in the millions of cycles range. Hardly something for the ordinary
consumer to worry about.
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large margin? How large?
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numbered."
From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: CF v SD Cards
Date: Tue
nd" to their customers'
> investments,
> what is to keep them from abandoning the AF drive shaft sometime shortly
> after
> the KAF3 mount comes out?
>
> Yep, SD cards are inexpensive, but a lot of our lenses aren't.
>
> It's not the money. It&#
Lets not go there.
John Forbes wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:11:28 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>On 22/8/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've dropped SD cards into my pants ... w
them from abandoning the AF drive shaft sometime shortly after
the KAF3 mount comes out?
Yep, SD cards are inexpensive, but a lot of our lenses aren't.
It's not the money. It's the attitude Pentax has displayed.
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On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:37 AM, John Forbes wrote:
>>> I've dropped SD cards into my pants ... with no ill
>>> effects
>
> No ill effects on what?
lol ... the card, of course. hey, i just found a piece of the casing
for my old Sony flash drive in the pants poc
ory wasn't as cheap as it is now. If it had been, I would consider
> it disposable.
>
> For a camera maker know for backwards compatibility, IMO they should
> have put in a dual memory card slot.
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/22/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:02 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> That's hardly a concern when comparing CF and SD cards. Unless you
> plan
> to lift them into orbit.
Yes, thus the "heh" to convey the jokiness of the post,
I, too, put SD cards in my pockets all the time and have
On Aug 22, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Tom C wrote:
> I don't really care Aaron. If in use, I can't detect a difference (or
> it's
> negligible), the specs don't matter. Price may make a difference, but
> not
> memory card specs where the slowest link in the chain is probably the
> camera
> itself.
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:11:28 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22/8/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> I've dropped SD cards into my pants ... with no ill
>> effects
No ill effects on what?
John
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On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Tom C wrote:
> Rally?
Okay, Tom, I'll bite: what Pentax body using SD cards is slower to
write to the card than the original *istD using CF cards? I freely
admit to having used only the D, the DS, the DS2 and the DL and to only
owning the DS2. Are t
happy with CF II (microdrives). :-)
Tom C.
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numbered."
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On 22/8/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I've dropped SD cards into my pants ... with no ill
>effects
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Subj: Re: CF v SD Cards
Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 11:56 am
Siz
Rally?
Tom C.
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numbered."
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 7:
gt;>From: P. J. Alling
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>My main complaint about the SD cards is their size.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Comments made by Joe Tainter got me to spout off about the superiority of
SD cards over CF cards. After posting my comments I began to think about
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On Aug 22, 2006, at 6:20 AM, Cotty wrote:
> Seems to me that SD is becoming the consumer standard. CF is still a
> professional standard and I don't see any sign of that changing. I
> would
> suspect tha
r media? Or is that not the
>>>same thing?
>>>
>>>Using dual memory slots takes up space and, presumably, costs the consumer
>>>some $$ as well. I'd rather not pay for the space a CF card takes up. I
>>>do understand your point, though, but I thi
s. So I use both cards. The shortcomings of CF
>>cards mainly seem to be the mechanical connection. There's been much
>>talk about pins breaking off on devices that accept them. If the CF
>>socket is well designed and implemented, and you have 1/2 of a clue
>>a
I've dropped SD cards into my pants or shirt pocket with no ill
effects. Accidentally put one through the washing machine once, it
had no problems afterwards.
Godfrey
On Aug 22, 2006, at 7:56 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> I have both a D and a Ds. So I use both cards. The shortcoming
F cards have been abandoned.
>
> It's not the money, gang. I know that SD cards are inexpensive. I am
> really offended by Pentax treating me this way.
>
> A Pentax rep once described Pentax managers to me as "arrogant." Yep.
Presuming a personal affront by a large
Then you'd really hate the XD cards - Godfrey showed me the card used in
his little Fuji - looks to be about 1/2 the size of an SD card.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: P. J. Alling
>My main complaint about the SD cards is their size.
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;, so I'll tidy up afterward, with SD cards I think twice and the
moment has usually passed anyway.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>I always carry my cards in either a small, individual case, which equates
>to a size equal to or somewhat larger than a CF card, or in a larger,
>multi-card
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From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj: Re: CF v SD Cards
Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 11:15 am
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To: pdml@pdml.net
After posting my comments I began to think about what I said. Can
anyone make a ca
sumer
>>some $$ as well. I'd rather not pay for the space a CF card takes up. I
>>do understand your point, though, but I think you may be in the minority
>>(not to negate your POV or situation, though).
>>
>>Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
g prices are up to date, the average works out to: AU$257
>> > (~US$195)
>>
>> Yikes. Here in Minneapolis (US) a local store was selling 80x 1gig
>> SD cards for $21 apiece! Sounds like everything is WAY more
>> expensive in Australia - sorry. :-(
>>
>&
I always carry my cards in either a small, individual case, which equates
to a size equal to or somewhat larger than a CF card, or in a larger,
multi-card case, which is 4"x3"x1", and which will hold 4 CF cards + 4 SD
cards, and/or other cards.
http://www.adorama.com/GPCSE4N.h
After posting my comments I began to think about what I said. Can
anyone make a case for CF cards as being a better choice than SD cards,
apart from some CF cards having a greater capacity than the current
highest capacity SD cards?
Shel
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Make a case? The case for me is that it feels
and you have 1/2 of a clue
> about what you're doing, that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. SD
> cards have a much more robust connection. On the other hand they are
> probably more fragile, but due to their size it would take an effort to
> snap one in half. My main com
nsumer
>some $$ as well. I'd rather not pay for the space a CF card takes up. I
>do understand your point, though, but I think you may be in the minority
>(not to negate your POV or situation, though).
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: D
That's hardly a concern when comparing CF and SD cards. Unless you plan
to lift them into orbit.
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
>On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>
>
>>are harder to lose
>>
>>
>
>Heh, my Ampex 501 is a lot harder to lose tha
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