Rob Studdert wrote:
I see there has been an avalanche of responses thus far..
Maybe you can enlighten us to the reasons for your feelings?
OK, reply as follows. There are many contradictions, but please allow this
one off, as thinking out loud.
I suppose the biggest thing you should
Dave Miers wrote:
I suppose the biggest thing you should take into
consideration is that
when
people look at your picture, they're not looking at your
darn camera.
No-one
will give a stuff about the camera that took the picture except the
photographer.
I assume you were not
Christian wrote:
I never said I was more confident or that I had more ability
behind the lens.
I think you'll find *I* did. For the most complementary reasons.
I did write that my biggest problem was
composition. How do you go from why you keep all your
photos to what you really want
frank theriault wrote:
As to whether digital and film should be judged separately, I
really don't care.
Hmm! I think I do; with digital you can review immediately what you have
taken - if you don't like it on some occasions the moment may not have
passed and you can take the shot again. With
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
And what's to prevent the photographer using film to make
several exposures of the same subject, bracketing the
exposure, shooting from different points of view, even using
different cameras with different films.
Whoo! Another advantage to the digital user, he won't
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
But subjects
move, light changes, and a good photog knows if he's got the
shot.
A point I made earlier. But...
You would know why. I have often taken a 35mm film Camera out and taken
pictures which I knew would come out right. I have often taken some which I
felt
Bill Owens wrote:
I wish I'd had the Tamron 70-300 on instead of the 500
mirror. The mirror lens is soft anytime, and even more so
when focused close.
Great picture; finally managed to get to see it. Please say more about the
Tamron lens, that sounds good.
Malcolm
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Sent: 14 December 2003 11:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Vs: Sigma 24-70 vs Tamron 28-75 XR Di
I have no experience of either lens but IMO 24 mm is very
usable focal length. (And the 3.5-4.5/24-90 Pentax is
Whoops!
Sorry about that.
Malcolm
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
As I have kissed my 60 pounds goodbye, I think that some one
with such an attitude should not be left to deal on ebay. Has
anybody ever filed a complaint against a seller? Is
SquareTrade the one and only option?
I've lost a fair bit of faith with eBay as a
Cotty wrote:
For fans of comedy and motorcycles, this eBay auction is a must read:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2442354423
Aaaargh! The ghost of Christmas past!
Back in the early 80s when I had a Yamaha RD350LC, which was awaiting parts
at a dealer, I bought one of
William Robb wrote:
with big hips.
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From: William Robb
Subject: Re: OT - Decerebrate Turnip
with bid hips.
Is there something you would like to share with us?
Malcolm
frank theriault wrote:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1990395
Bunny ears just don't cut it this time of year.
Yes, I courier like this...
HAR!
My children loved that picture. Merry Christmas Frank.
Malcolm
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all PDML folk.
Bob Walkden wrote:
on wearing antlers:
Plus, the receptionists love it (that's mostly why I do it g).
all sounds very Darwinian. If another courier turns up with
bigger antlers do they all start following him? Do you feel
an urge to lower your head, and charge?
Bob. Trust me. Don't
Tanya Mayer wrote:
You know what - in this instance, I think I believe the poor
guy. I still wouldn't part with any $$$ BUT, it does make me
wonder if he wasn't completely genuine. I would say that his
main mistake was listing without a reserve price, having had
no feedback.
There
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I like digi as well. The immediacy for family snaps, quick
turnaround, and ease of processing are all benefits. I wish
that, like the woman in the article said, I could just toss
my film canister in the air, grab some lunch, and come back
to a nicely done contact
William Robb wrote:
Consumer products are all about not holding their value,
anyone who buys
into them knows it and accepts it.
It's been that way with computers, video cameras, VCR's, American
automobiles and most any other consumer product out there.
But people still go out and buy the
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Partly depends on whether you are going to shoot raw or not
and whether you need to get alot of images on one card.
Shooting Changing of cards may or may not be a problem for
you. I personally would lean toward 2 - 1gb cards. Price is
more on your side. I'm
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Well that's good, it works for you. The people who buy my
images want 40 meg files, so the *ist D can;t deliver that.
Of course those of us shooting film are working in digital as
well. All of the images I deliver are digital files and the
workflow is constantly
John Coyle wrote:
Both Shel and Malcolm have not mentioned the combination of
film and digital which I find most convenient - shoot on film
and have it scanned at the time of development. I may be
lucky in having a very high-quality one-hour lab within two
minutes drive (or ten-minutes
Herb Chong wrote:
the rest of this conversation included the caveat that if you
can meet the resolution requirements.
Herb,
Ah, yes. Perception over possibility.
Malcolm
Christian Skofteland wrote;
KEH has black MXs all the time. Just VERY pricey! Some on eBay too
Yes, I have seen them.
I am now used to recommendation, as I bought my original MXs when they were
just on the second hand market. I have really looked after my camera
equipment - as I am sure
Alan Chan wrote:
What about a digital LX which is every bit the same as the original LX,
except with a Digital Back LX? You must wind the film (of
course there is
no film, but Pentax keep the winding mechanism anyway for the purists) to
take the next picture. What happened when the next
Andrea Rocca wrote:
British and Mainland Europe Pentaxians, check it out on
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1384539714
Wow! That looks fantastic.
I'd love to bid for that - but for some reason, I know not why - the words
eBay and camera in the same sentence cause a
Hi Brad and Rob,
Wow! That is the vote split right down the middle!
I have never owned a digital camera, so I am not qualified to make a
comment, but I do know for a fact that my 67 will take just about anything -
a friend asked me if they made them from old pylons :-)
As for repairs to DSLRs,
Paul Stenquist wrote:
I just don't tell my wife. I've purchased almost all the camera
equipment I currently own on ebay. Without ebay, I'd be, well, much
wealthier :-)
Paul
Frank Theriault wrote:
Come, come, Paul. That's the wrong attitude! What you have to
think, is how
much
Frank Theriault wrote:
Hi Frank,
Comments interspaced.
I dunno if that was split down the middle, since Brad's friend's
Kodak suffered
a mechanical problem (cracked body), which had nothing to do with it's
digitalness. Actually, I'd say that the fact that the camera
was dropped with
Page 78.
Comments please - probably from macro photographers!
Malcolm
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
From what I read in the professional photographers forums (not PJ's), most
film including MF is becoming the providence of fine art and amateur
photographers.
Ouch! The professional forums(!) - I like what is shared here by people who
may or may not earn their keep by
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
Drawing conclusions about the inherent physical robustness of electronic
systems, based on consumer electronic products, lacks all reason, logic,
knowledge and experience. Some military equipment has shock and vibration
requirements that are high enough to withstand
Brad Dobo wrote:
The other point was that many of
these consumer goods are cheaper to replace than fix, and what
would happen
to a DSLR after warranty is up. I posed the question, didn't give an
answer.
I'm glad you repeated this. I don't think anyone can give a definitive
answer to this
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
That was the whole point. Someone here said that electronics are
not robust
based on experience with consumer goods. THAT has nothing to do with the
inherent robustness of electronic equipment. If consumer equipment breaks
when you drop it, it's because there is a
John Mustarde wrote:
Hi John,
PDML threads often find reasons why digital may fail to please, or
speculate on why it must be an inadequate medium, or find a dozen
other faults with it - but the simple fact is there are many thousands
of satisfied digital camera users.
I have found the
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else on this list who has
absolutely
zero interest in digital cameras (except perhaps as a curiosity), has no
intention of ever converting from film, etc., etc.?
At the moment, I'm not trying to argue with those in favor of
digital, I'm
just
Frank wrote:
All good ideas. Like the truth, they're out there somewhere...
-frank
The obvious answer is to look in the last place you would look..except
this is now the first place you have looked, so you look in the last place
you would .
Malcolm
Hi everyone,
I want to acquire a wooden grip in 'fair' condition (no point in an as new,
as my 67 has some slight cosmetic damage) and prices seem to vary greatly.
Can anyone suggest a pay no more than figure, for one that would fit my
requirements?
Thanks,
Malcolm
gfen wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Cotty wrote:
I'm in bed with Darth Bloody Vader.
Watch out for the light sabre...
Comparison with digital and film will you do..much will you
evaluatefilm is not of the dark side...
Malcolm
Rubenstein, Bruce M
DSLRs have been around for years. It is naive to think that DSLRs
are in their first generation. Thinking that Pentax will start
selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than
simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Pentax has passed on
high end
William Robb wrote:
The convention in DSLR development is geared to the user of pro
oriented equipment. This is why the digital SLR bodies have been
based on pro oriented 35mm camera bodies.
Pentax doesn't have a history of pro support, and has no history
at all in the pro 35mm body
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
Pentax's not having a DSLR has nothing to do with technical issues. It has
to do with where they see their company in the market, and which customers
they choose to go after. Folks here seem to think that something can be
done, technically, then it will be done, but
Cotty wrote:
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/misc/pricelist.html
Seriously, I don't know the answer - I'm curious.
What an interesting find! 1986?
Malcolm
Chris,
Many congratulations. Get some sleep while you can and take lots of photos,
because you will be amazed at how quickly he will grow.
Malcolm
From: Chris Niesmertelny
Just too proud to keep it in, I'm the father of a wonderful baby boy.
ukasz Kacperczyk wrote:
Hi all,
I'm just curious how many 35mm slr (or maybe not necessarily slr) you own.
And what is the lowest number that makes you feel safe.
I'm not sure if it's really that interesting for anyone else, but
hey - *I*
want to know, so I figured I would ask anyway :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Vic wrote:
How many people here think spending $200-$500 on a good used
camera is a good
investment and at what point do they start to become bad investments..
I expect my wife would say they are a bad investment the moment they come
into the house :-(
On a serious note, I
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Who will get his DSLR in a couple of years when they start showing up on
ebay for five hundred bucks.
As will I for the same reasons.
Malcolm
William Robb wrote:
This place is expensive.
Yes it is, but a great place to spend it :-0
I have no regrets!
Malcolm
Frank theriault wrote:
I have no idea whether Pentax is # 4, 5 or 15. And quite frankly, I don't
care. I don't buy Pentax stuff as a status symbol.
I agree with that, I bought Pentax because I liked their cameras.
I care more about quality of images, and whether what I own fits
my needs
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
http://jcoconnell.com/temp/1000_SUN2WEB.jpg
Cracking shot, nice work (and nice equipment).
Malcolm
William Robb wrote:
I found the LX was at it's worst as a wedding camera because of
the flash failure feature.
Bill,
With respect, much as I love my LXs there is a time and a place for 67
operation, and this is it.
They love weddings :-) LXs go clack during church use, as I found out to my
Frank theriault wrote:
I can do cars, too!
http://www.urbancaravan.com/images/perkins_car.jpg
So you can! Great shot.
Malcolm
Bob S. wrote:
Suppose the 'Brotherhood' had finally gotten to you.
Waaay to late for me! I'm considering getting another 6x7 body.
Too addictive by far :-)
Malcolm
William Robb wrote:
The roads in my neck of the woods would swallow one of those
little things whole. My wife used to have a Honda Civic with 12
wheels. One day while driving on one of our main streets, I hit
a rain filled pothole big enough to blow a tyre and crack the
windshield.
One of
Robert Soames Wetmore wrote:
Does anyone regularly use a Pentax LX with a non-eye-level viewfinder for
general purpose photography (and if so, what do you use - for instance,
perhaps the FF-1)? I am so enjoying shooting with my Yashicaflex TLR at
waist level that I am wondering about how
Pat White wrote:
Actually, I don't find vibration to be that much of an issue on
the 6x7. It
could be that MLU was added because a professional camera really
should have
it, to make the camera suitable for the most demanding applications.
I bought my non MLU for landscape photography, and
Frank Theriault wrote:
I think that film will end up being analogous (no pun intended)
to vinyl records
(anyone remember those?) Back when CD's came out in the early
80's, they gave
vinyl about 10 years. And, for a while it was damn hard to find
vinyl at the
mainstream record stores,
Graywolf wrote:
Anyway, I am glad to be back.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
I am very pleased to see you back.
Malcolm
some method of
putting up a web site. Once I found a means of accomplishing it (thanks to
Shel), it only took a couple of hours or less to construct. However, I want
to remake it with thumbnails, rather than a bunch of large photos coming up
at once.
Paul
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Looks good Paul. I
?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Copying old photos with limited equipment.
Hi everyone,
My mother was lent a box of photos at Xmas of family taken
Shel, Cotty, William, Bob and everyone,
Thank you for such interesting advise and information. I have far less time
than I thought to carry this out - my Uncle is a guest tonight and he
intends to take them back, as he has family staying with him from tomorrow.
I will post a better reply later,
Shel,
I would most certainly agree that peoples views vary about photography, but
to myself, whether or not you like the subject, you can admire the execution
of the photo by a good photographer. I will try and get a website up and
running and display some pictures for creative criticism.
It
I hope this is the American use of the word pants :-)
Malcolm
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Sent: 02 January 2002 21:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newly skinned LXs.
Matamoros, Cesar A. wrote:
tv said:
These will
Chris,
Sometimes, it is a good idea to actually learn and experiment with
slide films. The lab will just process and mount the slides - no
machine or human judgement involved. It helps you learn better
because you can see the results of your efforts. Also, because the
film is less forgiving
2002 sees the start of my 23rd year of MX ownership. Brilliant camera.
Enjoy it.
Malcolm
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Most of us do.
Don't we? -)
Jostein
Jostein,
Of course -)
I have gone back to using my MX as my LX has let me down ;-(
Malcolm
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At least it's a great camera, but I was hoping to use the LX more. The back
of the LX (with data back) opened on its own three times with my third roll
of film in it - so not expecting much out of that roll. As I have never had
a problem like with any Pentax equipment, is this an expensive or
Hi Malcolm,
You might be able to get a new back (or perhaps bend your old one back into
shape), that is assuming of course that the latch in the LX body isn't
damaged?
I would have a very close look at the latch as it engages to try and
determine
the cause of the fault.
Cheers,
Rob Studdert
Hello everyone,
I found the best cure for the ailment of my LX was to put it in the attic in
the spare camera bag and use the MX again.
Malcolm :-(
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To: [EMAIL
I'll contact you off list my friend.
Malcolm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 10 January 2002 18:30
To: Pentax List
Subject: RE: getting LX - worth it? (repairs,...)
I found the best cure for the ailment of my LX was to put
Hi all,
Recently I asked for advice on the above, and was delighted with the
excellent help given.
The film came back this morning, and I was hoping to speak to you about the
results and to correct any mistakes before I took any more similar pictures.
Someone, somewhere is looking at some old
Did you look at the infrared photos; they are super.
malcolm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frits J. Wüthrich
Sent: 12 January 2002 11:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Sid's site
Regretfully the pages don't show very well on my
http://www.yurope.com/people/kujucev/pentax/lx.htm
http://www.yurope.com/people/kujucev/pentax/kx.htm
LX is a little bit on the ugly side, with few dents (one on the prism
finder) and paint scratches on the body edges, but it is clean inside and it
is working OK. No sticky mirror syndrome. The
Brendan wrote:
Pentaxitis??? so thats what it's called.
Usually as a result of using the endoscopies attachments. There may be a
cream available ;-)
Malcolm
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I have the Scan Dual II myself and happen to use PaintShop Pro V7. One
thing you should strongly consider is using Hamrick's Vuescan software
(www.hamrick.com) to scan with. It does a much better job than the
Minolta software. It also supports batch scanning better - less
attending by the
Malcolm,
I would be hesitant to recommend the Scan Dual II for someone who is
going to predominantly scan slides. The Dynamic Range on this scanner
is about 3.0 and I find that many of my slides don't scan quite as
well as I would like. I would really look at the Nikon's which also
have a
See below re: Malcolm Smith wrote.
I found that advice very useful but it wasn't me , because Malcolm Smith
needs his wife to sort out problems with computers blush.
Malcolm
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Frank,
You don't mean that! What about the 512BB?
Malcolm
If it doesn't have a V-12, it ain't a Ferrari!
Nothing in F1 sounded like those engines.
regards,
frank
Christian Skofteland wrote:
Finally got to see it with sound... Cute. I giggled... More so because
it's
Rubens Barichello's
Wohooo
Got it!!!
Now I've got the LX wink ;-)
I went into the shop and the camera is not mint but not far of.
Ended up walking out with camera ER case instuction book and strap for
£330!!
We are going to see friend this afternoon and guess what camera is going
with me ;-)
Alan
On Saturday, January 19, 2002, at 02:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
Is it a wink or a nervous twitch, like Inspector Dreyfus? :)
I've cut off my thumb.
-Aaron
Oh no, Aaron - that's my wife when
Hi Aaron,
I feel the same. When I first got interested in photography and discovered
I both enjoyed it and, IMO, had a knack for it, I started dreaming of being
a professional photographer.
Now I've come to realize that if it was my sole means of making a living,
the fun would be gone and it
I bought a photography magazine whilst doing the shopping today, and was
aghast at the number of, ahem! confidential adult processing adverts, plus
an Epson advert with people who are clothslessly challenged, for want of a
better phrase.
Is it me, or is 2002 a new age of nudge, nudge, wink,
in tow), and going for a nice ride.
Just 'cause you do it for a living doesn't mean that you can't still enjoy
doing
it in your spare time, even if you may not particularly enjoy the type of
photography that you may find that you have to do professionally.
regards,
frank
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Hi
, Malcolm,
Your wife. Is she, you know... a goer? You know, your wife. Is
she a
goer?
SAY NO MORE
regards,
frank
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Is it me, or is 2002 a new age of nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more,
say
no more photography upon us?
Malcolm
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I bought a photography magazine whilst doing the shopping today, and was
aghast at the number of, ahem! confidential adult processing adverts, plus
an Epson advert with people who are clothslessly challenged, for want of
a
better phrase.
Is it me, or is 2002
of -- What makes a photographer?
Geez, I'm glad I'm into bikes! I would think that buses (really, there are
people who collect buses?) are really expensive!! And, to get on one and go
for
a weekend daytrip would be a bit of a production, wouldn't it?
regards,
frank
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Hi Frank
Dear Bob S.
Is it still for sale ? NO, because my LX is away for repair and, hell have
I got some explaining to do :-(
Cotty, how did you get around such, umm! uncertainties?
Malcolm
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In the absence of aggressive keep left signs, I draw this string to a
close.
Malcolm
Your wife. Is she, you know... a goer? You know, your wife. Is
she a
goer?
SAY NO MORE
regards,
frank
Holiday? Holiday? Yes - could be taken on holiday...
I'm pleased to say that they would all have cameras ~ can't guarantee Pentax
though:-(
Name: Whatever Cotty calls me today ;-)
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Sent: 20 January 2002 21:13
To: Pentax List
Subject: Re: OT -- sort of
That's nothing, according to the bottom of this disposable camera in
front of me, Kodak owns not only the word Gold, but also the word
Fun. Careful, now, kids, don't be having any fun that isn't
authorized by the Eastman Kodak Company!
I **KNEW** I wasn't having as much fun as I used to.
Funny, we have had a brand of mints called Polo for decades!
Malcolm
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Sent: 22 January 2002 14:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Now trademarks, was:Re: Surly polar bear
There was until
Hi Everyone,
As someone who has benefited from what is on eBay, from PDML members, I was
disappointed to see that it is not the done thing to inform others of a
bargain on said eBay. I thought we looked out for each other on PDML and let
people know of Pentax items that are available - yes?
I
purchasing price driven up in so doing.
Maybe I'm missing your point, I don't know.
regards,
frank
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As someone who has benefited from what is on eBay, from PDML members, I
was
disappointed to see that it is not the done thing to inform others of a
bargain
I am well aware that there are many people who do not have such a high
regard of the LX. In fact, as I once posted here when I was looking for my
first LX, one camera shop strongly advised me against buying one, as they
were constant trouble and wouldn't accept one in part exchange.
This advice
This is an example of PDML at its best. No one could think more highly of
you both.
Well said both Frank and William.
Malcolm
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Sent: 27 January 2002 13:16
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Subject: Re:
I have seen some terrific reductions for film a few months out of date, in
the last few weeks, but have not purchased, due to lack of information.
Am I missing a bargain or do I need to learn something?
Should I buy?
Malcolm
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Subject: Re: Buying out of date film.
Yes. No.
It depends. What type film? What speed? How much out of date? How was
it stored?
Malcolm Smith wrote:
I have seen some terrific reductions for
film a few months out of date, in the last
few
and will find out more about
outdated color film after I shoot some of that.
This being said, I don't know whether I would depend on outdated film for
serious photography.
Bill KG4LOV
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Sent
I hear what you say, but like many talented photographers here, you
sometimes forget that some of us are still in learning mode, although I am
pleased to say it's coming on line quickly:-)
I can risk cheap film in order to get my act together, as long as I don't
go mad.
I'm not as good as you
All points noted; very interested in the comments in this string. Thanks.
Malcolm
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I got this sent to me; being brought up with M. Python has made my (at
least) generation keen on the more bizarre styles of humour. It is
addictive - must exit.can't move hands.:-)
Malcolm
Where did you find that? That's more condensed weirdness than I've seen in
quite a while. I
I have stayed with Pentax, since an incident in my first week of MX
ownership long ago.
I was with a friend in London, listening to him talk about his Nikon
equipment (putting in the odd snide comment about anything other than Nikon)
and watching him take pictures with ease, whilst I was getting
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