I'll go for the KISS for sure agreeing also to Twisted Sister, Motley
Crue and a host of metal neometal stuff but early Diamond was just
plain fun, entertaining rock roll. Forget anything he's done since
the Bang years however. Twang wise this is probably in the Michael
Bolton realm - Billy
Twang wise this is probably in the Michael Bolton realm - Billy Ray Cyrus.
No way. The boy from Flatwoods has done his penance and made some pretty
good records.
I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a
time in my life when I was very concerned about music I
JC:
Let's see, hose...Meat Loaf, David Soul, Ambrosia, Leif Garrett,
Tiffany.
Meat Loaf stays. If he goes, we lose "Rocky Horror Picture Show".
No way are we losing that.
marie
Louise asked about Scotty Moore and Bob says
Moore briefly played at Chicago's Blues Fest last year. My expectations
were low but I thought he was still pretty good. OTOH, I got to see one
song; I make no promises about a longer set. But as with the Merle
Haggard question earlier this week, it's
Will Miner wrote:
I know we've been focusing, or trying to, on producers of twang, but I've
been surprised that no one's mentioned Jeff Lynne, one of the most
wretched of the wretched. No matter what the lineup of the band or their
style, after going through his meat grinder they all
Eradicate any act contained on the _Rushmore_ soundtrack. g
Liked the movie alright, but loved the soundtrack.
Man, Mark Mothersbaugh sure dug out some damn obscure *gems* for that
movie. I've got to pick that soundtrack up along with: Little Voice and
now, 200 Cigarettes.
Viva le'
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Bill Silvers wrote:
I think we even got Lynne-defender Jerry Curry to sorta kinda agree to the
truth of his mishandling of Dave Edmunds best sound on those two records,
though he maintained those were still big sellers for DE. And Dave was
often twangy- it was great
If you get rid of Jeff Lynne then don't you then have to get rid of The
Traveling Wilbury's? No way.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Bill
We journalists are not in the music business, we're *covering* the
music business. Well, at least that's how the oft-referenced Greg Kot
positioned himself during a panel at lat year's (?) SXSW.
Neal Weiss
A good read between the lines quote, I might add. I've seen more
journalistic
Since there has been some discussion about critics lately I was wondering
who you all considered to be the most respected and influential critic to
be. Doesn't have to be current.
Flippo
Looks like I have a good chance on interviewing Ringo and trying to get ready.
Anyone have any ideas on "different" questions to ask him other than the same
old crap?
Thanks in advance for any tips, I have a feeling I will have to remind myself
to not drool, so I want to be really prepared.
Yes. No?
--
Iain Noble
Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy,
28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK
Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL
The New American Roots Music Show is heard Fridays from 9 to 10 AM on KOOP,
Austin, Texas 91.7FM. It focuses on new releases and recent re-issues in
country, bluegrass,folk, blues, cajun, zydeco and whatever else fits. Way
to much new stuff this week to fit into an hour. The Biller Wakefield is
I didn't get a chance to thank Stacey Taylor before I headed out
last night, but last night's Hellcountry gig was a hoot. I got the
impression from her that the attendance was the best they've seen so far.
Maybe the recent mentions in the Herald, the Globe, and "Country
Standard Time" have
Stacey is very busy moving and has asked me to post this to y'all.
Hope it's of interest. pete
--
The World's First P2 Demographic Self-Survey: Who ARE We?
mail\p2 survey98-1.tab
Stacey set-up the user
Tom wrote:
Do you know if they're still going? I haven't seen or heard anything
from them since "tricycle," which came out on Delmore in 94 or 95. A
real nice record, with a little hint of that wiggly Feelies vibe mixed in with
some moody (and some pretty), indie-poppish songs. Graded up
Cool. A big thank you to Stacey, Pete and Bruce...
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Oh, yeah, forgot about that Joni Mitchell thing. Eradicating her would
leave the world without "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio," hence without Gail
Davies' fine first version of it (she recorded it again for her recent,
misleadingly-named Greatest Hits), hence without Leland Sklar's impossibly
I must chime in here too, pointing out that my pal Michael Berick (MoMZine and
ND contributor) has foolishly taken my advice and logged on to P2. Welcome MB.
And to all you non Los Angelenos out there, this has got to at least prove
that there's what, at least three, four or five cool folks
If you are interested, Steve Earle won the Gibson Award for Best Male
Acoustic Guitar Player.
Seems like it was about a year ago when I said I thought Steve was one
of the best guitar players in country music. I got flammed big time.
Jon W. from Kentucky really disagreed with me. Oh well,
Should we recruit Aries people?. Perhaps they're the ones that
contributed the unusable responses...
Rams can't twang. Not even standing up. Or while wearing glasses.
Barry M.
(This being P2, I'm sure a catalog of twanger Aries types will follow!)
Seriously-- thanks to Stacey , Pete and
In a message dated 2/27/99 3:29:26 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I cannot give much credibility to Mr. Kott for
example, who seems to attach a "neutralized barb" to his wiriting and then
happily wanders back into mainstream appeal. It just gives me the
impression that
Yes, many thanks to stacey and pete for the survey. The one stat I didn't
take away was: what percentage of P2ers responded?
It would be nifty if the survey could be sent to everyone on the list,
etc.
But very interesting stuff in any case. Thanks much.
--junior
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote:
I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a
time in my life when I was very concerned about music I didn't like, but the
more time goes by, the less I find myself getting worked up over it, even
for idle pastime.
We
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Iain Noble wrote:
Yes. No?
PLEASE!
--
Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries"
- Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
In a message dated 2/27/99 3:29:26 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A critic in my
honest opinion is writing for the public, not for the recording industry or
the artists.
Sometimes I think the best criticism is the stuff you write for yourself,
trying to figure out why
"Peterson, Richard A" wrote:
There are 23 Gemini, 20 Libra, 16 Sagittarius, and 14 Taurus. Among
the clearly under represented are Virgo and Cancer with 9, Pisces 7,
Aquarius 6 and Aries 5. Is this strange? What is it about Geminis?
Should we recruit Aries people. Perhaps they're the
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can't say yes to Styx, cuz I must confesses to hours of pre-punk adolescent
enjoyment derived from Grand Illusion.
Yeah, Neal, but little kids eat bugs in the yard when they dont know
better. Would you still defend it now that you're older and
Lord help me, I'm about to agree with Jon Weisberger *and * stick up for
Billy Ray Cyrus - ain't life goofy?
There are a lot of themes in country, and some seem to export more readily
to rock and other genres: yer drinking songs, yer cheating songs, yer
trucking songs...But there's a solid
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, marie arsenault wrote:
Meat Loaf stays. If he goes, we lose "Rocky Horror Picture Show".
No way are we losing that.
That would be a good reason to nuke him. The only problem would be that
then we would lose Susan Sarandon ...
Will Miner
Denver, CO
Carl Abraham Zimring wrote:
Seriously, it seems to me the
point of this exercise is to throw out an artist one despises and dare
anyone to find artistic merit in it. Granted Ray Stevens is eons above,
say Journey on the artistic scale. I however, have never liked him, and
I particularly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus: Stevie Ray Vaughn, who while inoffensive and sometimes soulful
in himself has inspired the worst teenage guitar boy fantasies since
Jim Morrison.
What does this mean? That stevie was a teenager? That he was a teenage
guitar?
--
Joe
I missed something here. If it matters, I don't mind standing up to be
counted as a Libra.
out of it,
Linda
How old were you when "Ahab the Arab" came out? I was a kid/teen and it
was cooler than shit to us. It is a distortion to lump his later junk in
with his earlier hits because he eventually ran out of gas and began to
repeat himself and become tiresome and clownish.
Joe Gracey
Yeah,
Tireless defender of my hometown that I am, I must bitch for a moment about
last night's Damnations gig. That poor band was subjugated to everything I
hate about LA. There they were, playing their plucky banjo-fied songs to a
crowd at the half-full Viper Room that was so so so so chatty that I
It fucking pisses me off when people
show up and then just talk over the music, especially when they're on the list
Sounds like any night, any band, any venue in Memphis
Neal, I've heard so many bad anecdotes about playing the Viper Club that I
wonder if it's just not a very artist-friendly venue Any truth in
that, from your perspective?
--junior
Dina writes: Now, surely Terry doesn't mean to eradicate the Texas
Playboys.
or the Texas Tornados for that matter.
Jim, smilin'
Neal, I've heard so many bad anecdotes about playing the Viper Club that I
wonder if it's just not a very artist-friendly venue Any truth in
that, from your perspective?
Artist-friendly? Hard to say. On one hand it's great for a band because a gig
there suggests some sort of buzz
Hi,
I've always thought best to go for dyne, if only not to confuse them with
the British eighties Hi-NRG singer Hazel Dean who recorded the god-awful
"Searchin' ( I gotta find a Man )"
Regards,
Warren Owen ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
** The Alt Country Tab
Stacey and Pete...
Wanted to thank you personally for doing the survey. It was a fascinating
thing to do.
And speaking as one of the Twangfest organizing committee, I also wonder
whether it might not be possible, if/ when the survey is done again, to
include some questions that would
Well, since I inadvertently posted this to the list, why don't any of you
who have any comments or thoughts respond to me offlist at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's just an idea that occured to me. As I mentioned in that note, I see
advantages from a sponsorship-appeal standpoint but am not
I hear you about the Club, Neal. Your comment about several kitschy
70s-cover bands making a good living currently in LA made me grin.
There's one in the KC area making incredible amounts of money... Doing
much better than any other single band in the area, as far as I can figure
it.
But
Also, we surely need to spare the Texas Twelve-Steppers. With P-2er Jim
Stringer! g.
--junior
OK--here's the lineup for the televised portion of the Opry tonight (TNN,
8:30-9:00pm Eastern, repeating at 11:30pm Eastern):
Lorrie Morgan, Clark Family Experience, BR5-49, Diamond Rio
Hmmm. Maybe BR5-49 will be on the "Backstage" show that airs from
8:00-8:30 and repeats at 11:00pm.
Dina
Wow, Robbie, Kinky, and Lonesome Bob on the same bill. Not too shabby!
g.
That reminds me: isn't Kinky having a benefit in Austin for his wildlife
charity (or some other wildlife charity) a week or two before Tfest?
Do any of you Austinites know the lineup for that show? I vaguely recall
a
In a message dated 2/27/99 2:05:07 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That reminds me: isn't Kinky having a benefit in Austin for his wildlife
charity (or some other wildlife charity) a week or two before Tfest?
Do any of you Austinites know the lineup for that show? I
That's a great lineup for Kinky's benefit, but at $100-a-plate you're
gonna get a strange crowd indeed Nobody has that kind of bucks
excpept socialites, politicians, and drug dealers!
I'll go for the afternoon party at the Spoke g.
ALSO: I just read on the hillbilly list that WANDA
Yes, despite our habit of ritually debunking Jeff Lynne, it would be wrong
to eliminate him because of a number of fine things he's done, not least
the Roy Orbison recordings Dina mentions.
There's also "Brontasaurus," by The Move g.
--junior
The sorry thing, Neal, is we all blame this kind of behavior on our own
towns (easy enough to do here in downtown hipper-than-thousville, too) but
it's getting to be too damn common everywhere across the U.S.--and maybe
beyond. The worst mistake is supposed to be to say anything about this
Does anybody have any inkling of anything interesting going on in Las Vegas
between April 18th and 22nd?
And attention bands I like: please try to avoid scheduling your trips to
Atlanta during those dates. Thank you.
Dina
When's the Vegas rockabilly weekend? I think it's earlier than that, but
I'm not sure
--junior
OK--here's the lineup for the televised portion of the Opry tonight (TNN,
8:30-9:00pm Eastern, repeating at 11:30pm Eastern):
Lorrie Morgan, Clark Family Experience, BR5-49, Diamond Rio
Hmmm. Maybe BR5-49 will be on the "Backstage" show that airs from
8:00-8:30 and repeats at 11:00pm.
Suggestions for Nancy from someone nearby:
1. Did he ever get to realize his dream of becoming a hairdresser?
2. Is he still good at math?
3. Does he ever get confused with Yassir Arafat?
4. How did they usually mike the drum kit at Abbey Road; and
where was he placed in the studio, in
This has come up a couple of times in the past but I'll mention it again
just in case. Anyone in the eastern half of the US and pretty far
westward (out as far as TX, OK, KS for sure) can hear the Opry on radio on
WSM, 650 AM. It comes after dark just fine and I have a ball listening to
whenever
Does anybody have any inkling of anything interesting going on in Las Vegas
between April 18th and 22nd?
Dina
Hey Dina--if that, as I think it is, is the week of the NAB Broadcasters
convention, (which as of the moment at least I'm scheduled to be at too
BTW)...the answer to "what's going
Mariah Carey?
Hey all,
On a completely illogical whim, I am going to be in Reno...yes, Reno,
Nevada from March 12-15. Does anyone know if there is anything cool
to do in the realm of music. I am not much of a gambler, I dont ski,
and despite the fact that I really really want to go to that HUGE
bowling
Oh, Barry! I caught Sam Butera last time I was in Vegas and he was
*great*. Some extremely jumpin' RB, wow. He lives in Vegas and so is
always something to look for when you're passing through.
Also The Treniers, another old RB act, kick ass out there on a regular
basis. And Sonny
Like Jon and Kelly, I find I don't have the neccessary bloodlust to
eradicate bands I don't much like.
Rock critics are another matter.
Can we eradicate Greil Marcus?
Please, please, PLEASE?
Pretty please?
Aw to hell with begging. E-fucking-radicate the dude.
I'm tempted to eradicate Lester
I can't settle on one, but if I had to choose three bands to eradicate,
I'd take KISS, the Grateful Dead, and the Rolling Stones.
Aim high, says I...
Tom
(cool! I can post again! damn merger screwed up my subscription...)
In a message dated 2/27/99 2:51:27 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"is anyone putting together a comprehensive alt.country friendly
SXSW schedule?"
I believe former P2 superhero John Conquest does a nice listing in his little
comic book he puts out every month. So far
Oh, Barry! I caught Sam Butera last time I was in Vegas and he was
*great*. Some extremely jumpin' RB, wow. He lives in Vegas and so is
always something to look for when you're passing through.
Also The Treniers, another old RB act, kick ass out
-junior
The Treniers are an all-time
This can be heard live on the net at http://www.wnur.org
--
Today on Airplay (3-6 p.m. Chicago time on 89.3 FM WNUR or
www.wnur.org) we have live performances from...
- Terry Rohm - Daniel Johnston / Phil Ochs style singer-songwriter from
Ann Arbor.
- Kelly Hogan and her
At 01:03 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Tarhut Jeff wrote:
ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that...
But both were weak and milktoast when compared to AC/DC of the same era
(with Bon Scott).
But I gotta stick up for a Michigan boy like Seger.
D.
Bon Scott is one of the best rock and roll singers ever.
-Original Message-
From: Douglas Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz)
At 01:03 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Tarhut
-
Playlist for Progressive Torch and Twang
Tuesdays, 8 p.m. to midnight
WDBM, 88.9 FM, G-4 Holden Hall, East Lansing, MI 48824
Your hosts: Doug Neal and Jamie DePolo
Questions, comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL
Who's Dan Mesh? Anybody up on
him?
He and Mike Ireland are playing the HonkyTonk
Living Room 4/15 w/ Deanna Varagona.
Kelly K
Who's Dan Mesh? Anybody up on him?
He's the member of Holler that's still playing gigs with Mike. Which,
unless Mike's completed the hiring process, would make Dan Holler g.
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
BARNARD wrote:
Yes, despite our habit of ritually debunking Jeff Lynne, it would be wrong
to eliminate him because of a number of fine things he's done, not least
the Roy Orbison recordings Dina mentions.
There's also "Brontasaurus," by The Move g.
Not to take anything away from Lynne
Hey there,
Neal Weiss, who wanted to eradicate Asia (Curry said no) and was very
passionate about losing REO Speedwagon (my wifey said no).
They should at least be kept for their pioneering music videos. g
Later...
CK
___
You
Hey there,
Just some nominees for my all type pet peeve musical style...
Blues Traveller
Spin Doctors
and hopefully this will take down Jackopierce, Peat Moss, etc. etc. etc.
and all those hippie jam bands. Yuck.
Later...
CK
___
In a message dated 2/27/99 7:49:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Blues Traveller
Spin Doctors
and hopefully this will take down Jackopierce, Peat Moss, etc. etc. etc.
and all those hippie jam bands. Yuck.
Absolutely no objection from me particularly if it would
Anyone know of any special rental car deals? We're gonna be rentin' one
down in Austin this year (and we may even let some of you in itg). Feel
free to email me privately, or to the list if you think it's of somewhat
general interest.--don
Anyone know of any special rental car deals? We're gonna be rentin' one
down in Austin this year (and we may even let some of you in itg). Feel
free to email me privately, or to the list if you think it's of somewhat
general interest.--don
To the list, please. We're renting too--partly so that
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Queen, Bad Co., Burney...). Therefore, after having seen the light brought
forth by the good Senator Minor from Colorado, I say let Styx burn in hell.
And I say BON APETITEbugs are considered a delicacy
by some cultures, you know.
I rent a lot for work travel but haven't much for personal travel so for
personal -- I don't know what's cheap (I get a govt. discount for work). I
did notice that my Amex statement this month included $20 off coupons from
both Budget and National. If you used a travel agent or even one of the
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, AJM wrote:
bands and such but cant find any info. I am missing Robin Trower by
two days (Damn me missing the King of the Fender Strat...He is another
guy I forgot about that kicks Clapton's ass up and down the
fingerboard.). If anyone out there knows anything, let me
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did I ever tell you I was in Tahoe in a casino playing keeno (or some game I
didn't understand) when I heard strains of "Year of the Cat" coming from their
small show room? And yes, it really was Al. Wasn't much a draw -- I peaked
in and there
At 05:37 PM 2/27/99 -0500, Jon answered the query about Dan Mesh:
He's the member of Holler that's still playing gigs with Mike. Which,
unless Mike's completed the hiring process, would make Dan Holler g.
Yeah, Dan is Holler's rhythm guitarist, and only current member. I heard M
D play as a
Reno?
http://www.tahoe.com/action/reno.html shows the following during the timeframe March
12-15:
John Ascuaga's NUGGET CELEBRITY SHOWROOM:
Righteous Brother Bill Medley (March 4-17) [just missed Barbara Mandrell]
On the South Shore,
CAESARS TAHOE
CIRCUS MAXIMUS:
George Carlin (March
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