[python-committers] Triage perms for Elvis

2018-05-29 Thread R. David Murray
At Yuri's request I've given Elvis triage privileges on the tracker. I don't anticipate any objections, given the work he's done on What's New and other things. --David ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.o

Re: [python-committers] 3.7.0b1 status

2018-01-31 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 03:17:47 -0500, Ned Deily wrote: > in not more than 24 hours from now. If you wish, feel free to merge > new commits into the master branch for release in 3.8, with the > understanding that any also destined for 3.7.0 will need to be > cherrypicked after the 3.7 branch is avai

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:56:21 -0500, Donald Stufft wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 2017, at 2:52 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > > > > If 2fa is required for contribution to CPython, I'll stop > > contributing. > > I’m curious why? I have it on and 99% of the

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:52:54 -0500, "R. David Murray" wrote: > Indeed. If 2fa is required for contribution to CPython, I'll stop > contributing. Granted, I haven't done many merges lately, but a few > is a bigger number than zero :) And in case you think this me

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

2017-12-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:14:41 +, Paul Moore wrote: > On 11 December 2017 at 18:03, Donald Stufft wrote: > > So yea, it’s not as good as 2FA only everywhere, but the specific > > circumstances around these specific credentials makes it a reasonable > > usability trade off to allow them. > >

Re: [python-committers] Mentoring Julien Palard (core), Cheryl Sabella (bug) and Sanyam Khurana (bug)

2017-12-09 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:12:52 +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > I asked them to ask me to double check before merging a pull request > (Julien) or closing a bug (Cheryl and Sanyam). When I have promoted people to triage in the past I have not had them check with me before making changes, but instead

Re: [python-committers] Official python-dev docker images

2017-12-07 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 13:00:31 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Brett and I want to promote this more widely within the Python > community as the “official Python Docker image” that projects can use > in their own testing environments, or base their own images on it. We > wanted to give you guys a

Re: [python-committers] Requirements to get the "bug triage" permission?

2017-12-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:11:44 +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > Ok, thanks Ezio and David. I completed my list: > https://github.com/vstinner/cpython_core_tutorial/blob/master/core_developer.rst#bug-tracker s/loose/lose/ I would say your list comprises the skills for the "ideal triager" rather than

Re: [python-committers] Adding Ivan Levkivskyi as a core committer

2017-12-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:43:56 -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I think I figured it out -- I invited him to the python org on GitHub. > Anything else? He needs to subscribe to this mailing list, and the developers.rst in the devguide repo should get an update. That's all I can think of, since ssh

Re: [python-committers] Requirements to get the "bug triage" permission?

2017-11-20 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:54:50 +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > I identified some active contributors and I would like to offer them > to get the "bug triage" permission. What's the requirements to give > such permissions to someone? Currently it is "someone with the power to do it decides to give i

Re: [python-committers] Enabling depreciation warnings feature code cutoff

2017-11-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 13:25:09 -0600, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > On 2017-11-06, R. David Murray wrote: > > I'm curious which ones you are seeing it in? It could be we are > > operating in different problem spaces :) > > In the last few months: Pillow, docutils, dateu

Re: [python-committers] Enabling depreciation warnings feature code cutoff

2017-11-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 12:51:45 -0600, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > Another idea is to have venv to turn them on by default or, based on > a command-line option, do it. Or, maybe the unit testing frameworks > should turn on the warnings when they run. Unit test frameworks, including at least unittest

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Reminder: 12 weeks to 3.7 feature code cutoff

2017-11-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 11:46:48 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 6 November 2017 at 02:02, Yury Selivanov wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> The current lack of DeprecationWarnings in 3.6 is a fairly major > >> oversight/bug, though: > > > > There's no oversight. W

Re: [python-committers] Requesting reviews

2017-10-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:09:01 -0700, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > The windows team is notified because the PR includes changes to PCBuild/* If you get a review request that says your review was requested "as a code owner", then it was an auto-request, it wasn't actually requested by the person named

[python-committers] Minor followup to the pynvm discussion

2017-10-03 Thread R. David Murray
A link to a possibly-interesting-in-this-context project was just posted to the pmem mailing list: https://arrow.apache.org/ This is a standard for communicating data structures between processes with zero-copy semantics, and is backed by the person who created Python Pandas. I thought Davin

[python-committers] I just gave Gareth Rees traige privileges on the tracker

2017-07-20 Thread R. David Murray
I haven't actually heard back from him yet since I just emailed him, but I've never had anyone turn down triage privs :) The trigger was that I closed two issues this week that he comment on that it would have been nice if he had been able to just close himself. I've looked at some of his other tr

Re: [python-committers] Dismiss review if a PR is modified

2017-07-19 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:13:41 -, Brett Cannon wrote: > Do realize that setting is part of requiring a review for pull requests: > https://help.github.com/articles/enabling-required-reviews-for-pull-requests/. > So in order to get this we would require all PRs, core dev or not, to > receive an a

Re: [python-committers] My (positive) feedback on the new CPython workflow

2017-07-18 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:24:13 +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > I'm just not unconfortable with the fact that an approval is kept even > if the PR is modified after the review :-/ I would expect a list a > notice "changed modified after the review" or something like that. At > least, for my own revie

Re: [python-committers] link from github to bpo?

2017-06-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:33:13 -, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 at 09:28 R. David Murray wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:37:22 -0700, Mariatta Wijaya < > > mariatta.wij...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > PR 2304 is merged. "View Details&

Re: [python-committers] link from github to bpo?

2017-06-23 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:37:22 -0700, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > PR 2304 is merged. "View Details" still exists (scroll all the way down). > > When the PR is not yet merged (e.g. > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/2316), the UI looks different. > Click 'Show all checks' to get the link back to

Re: [python-committers] link from github to bpo?

2017-06-21 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:02:58 -0700, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > Yes, for that PR, scroll down and click the "View Details" button. > Click the Details link next to bedevere/issue number status check. > It will take you to the issue in bpo. Note that this will only exist if the PR is still open (not

Re: [python-committers] Revert changes which break too many buildbots

2017-06-15 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 13:31:39 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 15 June 2017 at 00:40, Victor Stinner wrote: > > So I would like to set a new rule: if I'm unable to fix buildbots > > failures caused by a recent change quickly (say, in less than 2 > > hours), I propose to revert the change. > > I'm

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Carol Willing to become a core developer

2017-05-23 Thread R. David Murray
+1 --David ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

Re: [python-committers] Feedback on the new CPython workflow

2017-05-17 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:35:29 -0700, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > It's possible, but remember not all PRs have bpo-issue, eg those with > trivial label. > In that case, what should the backport branch be? > So we might end up with two backport branch name patterns, eg > `backport-bpo--` and `backp

Re: [python-committers] Github reviews are cannibalizing BPO

2017-05-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 04 May 2017 17:44:46 -, Brett Cannon wrote: > (And just so I can claim I stated this publicly at some point; our Roundup > installation I think runs on Python 2.6 and Roundup itself has not been > ported to Python 3, so I don't know what we want to do if Roundup doesn't > make the swit

Re: [python-committers] Github reviews are cannibalizing BPO

2017-05-02 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 02 May 2017 09:36:02 +0200, "M.-A. Lemburg" wrote: > On 02.05.2017 04:25, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 2 May 2017 at 08:32, Christian Heimes wrote: > >> This brings me to my questions > >> > >> 1) Should we try to move discussion back to BPO or are we fine with > >> having major decisions j

Re: [python-committers] Regarding reviewing test cases written for tabnanny module

2017-04-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:53:44 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: > - When the contributor makes multiple local commits without pushing to the > PR, I recommend using --amend unless they have several commits that > actually are logically distinct and relevant to the reviewer. (--amend is > especially im

Re: [python-committers] I have blocked Wes Turner from the Python org on GitHub

2017-04-01 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 15:08:27 -0400, Alex Gaynor wrote: > I'll be another voice saying that the CoC isn't the right mechanism -- the > CoC is for harassment and abuse (at least, most community's CoCs are, the > Python one is pretty vague). > > That said, I have no problem with the action taken, ba

Re: [python-committers] 4 weeks with the new workflow: what needs changing?

2017-03-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:29:13 +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > By the way, how do I fetch remote changes for a branch without pulling > it into the working copy? e.g. I'd like to do "git fetch origin 3.5" or > "git fetch origin/3.5", but that doesn't seem to work... "git fetch origin 3.5" seems

Re: [python-committers] 4 weeks with the new workflow: what needs changing?

2017-03-15 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:56:33 -0400, Yury Selivanov wrote: > It's not just long waiting times (although it's a huge factor), it's > that you have to create temporary branches for cherry-picks. With > scripts or without, it's a lot of bookkeeping. Also, interacting with a > console is still much

Re: [python-committers] 4 weeks with the new workflow: what needs changing?

2017-03-13 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:48:30 -0400, Yury Selivanov wrote: > Yesterday I was working on a few asyncio PRs and a bug in async/await. > All PRs required cherry-picking. Again, I was spending significant > amount of time just creating branches/PRs for cherry-picking. Again > waiting for CI chec

Re: [python-committers] 4 weeks with the new workflow: what needs changing?

2017-03-12 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 11:37:21 -, Paul Moore wrote: > I don't have a problem with the new "PRs attached to this issue" field > - that's of course important to have. But is there any way to not have > them generate emails (probably on a per-user basis, as I'm sure > there's people who appreciate

Re: [python-committers] New ncoghlan-bpo-29537-NEWS branch?

2017-03-09 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 18:32:13 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 at 04:07 Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > On 9 March 2017 at 19:30, Victor Stinner wrote: > > > > Do we need need a kind of sandbox repository for experiments? > > > > > > Mine aren't experiments, they're temporary branches f

Re: [python-committers] autoconf 2.70

2016-11-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:22:00 +0100, Victor Stinner wrote: > I know that tracking generated files is not pure, but it's very > convenient, so please keep them: configure, Python/importlib.h, > Python/importlib_external.h, etc.! > > When testing Python on some "custom" operating systems, I alread

Re: [python-committers] 3.6 branch now open only for 3.6.0 release critical fixes and doc updates!

2016-11-22 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:47:35 -0500, Ned Deily wrote: > On Nov 22, 2016, at 12:59, Brett Cannon wrote: > > I think for me what made everything click was realizing that we used > > to say "until rc1 is cut, treat it as the beta phase", while Ned is > > saying "since b4 is the last beta, we are now

Re: [python-committers] 3.6 branch now open only for 3.6.0 release critical fixes and doc updates!

2016-11-22 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 02:24:37 -0500, Ned Deily wrote: > On Nov 22, 2016, at 02:02, Ned Deily wrote: > > On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release > > team, I'm pleased to announce the availability of Python 3.6.0b4. 3.6.0b4 > > is the last planned beta release of Pyt

Re: [python-committers] 3.6.0 Beta Phase Development

2016-09-13 Thread R. David Murray
- python-dev On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:15:06 -0400, Ned Deily wrote: > 2016-12-04 3.6.0 release candidate 1 (3.6.0 code freeze) > > 2016-12-16 3.6.0 release (3.6.0rc1 plus, if necessary, any dire emergency > fixes) IMO, if any dire emergency fixes are necessary there should be an rc2, which then

Re: [python-committers] Is it just me or is the tip broken at the moment?

2016-07-07 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:15:29 -0500, Zachary Ware wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > I'm wondering if I've broken something at my end, or if everyone is > > seeing the same error. > > Works fine for me. Have you rebuilt since pulling? If a simple > 'make' does

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.5 andPython 3.5.2 are now available

2016-06-28 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:51:07 -0700, Steve Dower wrote: > I hoped by informing the lists we'll be able to address concerns as > they come up, but I'd rather not have a semi-permanent instruction to > ignore a virus scanner :) Good point. I actually thought about that a few hours after I sent the

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.5 and Python 3.5.2 are now available

2016-06-27 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:25:40 -0700, Steve Dower wrote: > On 26Jun2016 1932, Larry Hastings wrote: > > https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-352/ > > ... > > /p.s. There appears to be a small oops with the Windows installers for > > 3.5.2--uploaded to the wrong directory or something. Th

Re: [python-committers] bugs.python.org, job status, and contributors (aka not core devs)

2016-06-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 20:25:22 +0300, =?UTF-8?Q?Berker_Peksa=C4=9F?= wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > > Question: I noticed a couple issues on b.p.o that were being closed by > > contributors (not core-devs, not their own issues). > > > > Should non-core-devs be clos

[python-committers] I broke the 3.5 branch, apparently

2016-06-03 Thread R. David Murray
I don't understand how it happened, but apparently I got a merge commit backward and merged 3.6 into 3.5 and pushed it without realizing what had happened. If anyone has any clue how to reverse this cleanly, please let me know. (There are a couple people at the sprints looking in to it, but the m

Re: [python-committers] Promote Xavier de Gaye as a core developer

2016-05-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:28:00 +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2016-05-24 15:42 GMT+02:00 R. David Murray : > > PS: with respect to Victor's script wish, one of the reasons I'm suggesting > > paul.j3 is that very few of his patches have been committed, and they > > sh

Re: [python-committers] Promote Xavier de Gaye as a core developer

2016-05-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 24 May 2016 00:22:07 -0400, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <20160523174004.cb04eb14...@webabinitio.net>, > "R. David Murray" wrote: > > +1 from me as well. I'd just put him on my shortlist of people to > > consider. I haven't gone over his

Re: [python-committers] Promote Xavier de Gaye as a core developer

2016-05-23 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 22 May 2016 14:23:08 +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2016-05-22 11:42 GMT+02:00 Stefan Krah : > > +1. The Android patches are very good -- he would be the ideal maintainer. > > The Android work looks to become something serious. To make the > Android support official, we need a buildbot,

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 21:31:44 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > I guess I'm just worried about the health of this project. I'm doing what I > can through the migration to GitHub to make it easier for others to get > involved while making it easier for us to accept the work of others, but > the maintenan

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 21:31:44 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > The discussion about the Code of Conduct has sputtered out, so I'm going to > assume those who care to speak up have at this point. It seems to me that > the general agreement is that putting python-dev and bugs.python.org under > the CoC m

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-01 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:00:21 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > I don't want this discussion to drag on forever as CoC discussions tend to, Agreed, I made my point and don't otherwise feel a need to engage in further discussion. Unless someone pushes one of my buttons, I suppose :) > Now obviously I

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-01 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 04:10:08 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 at 18:01 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > So let me make it clear: Brett, and the other list maintainers, you're > > not listening. Even if I'm a minority of one out of the whole community, > > your words say "of course we ca

Re: [python-committers] Deprecation Policy PEP

2016-02-02 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:33:58 +0200, Ezio Melotti wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Following the lead of 2.7.10 and 2.7.11 we could continue with 3.10, 3.11, > > etc. > > > > I think we should continue with 3.10, 3.11, etc. > Changing the major version should

Re: [python-committers] We will be moving to GitHub (hopefully) in 2016

2016-01-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:26:58 +, "Gregory P. Smith" wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:34 PM R. David Murray > wrote: > > > to have to do some extra work to make the hash links work in the bug > > tracker, since I don't think there's any a priori way

Re: [python-committers] We will be moving to GitHub (hopefully) in 2016

2016-01-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 18:18:02 +, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 at 09:50 Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > > I have to admit that I'm not a big expert on Mercurial --> Git converters > > and the way I maintain this mirror may not be the best approach, so I > > encourage you folks to find a

Re: [python-committers] I am nos selectable in the bugtracker

2015-12-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 22:50:12 +0100, Jesus Cea wrote: > After sending my new SSH key I have recovered "push" abilities in the > mercurial repository, but it looks like I am not present in the bug > tracker "assigned to" field. I see jcea there. --David

Re: [python-committers] Committer missing :)

2015-12-06 Thread R. David Murray
On the other hand, docs.python.org/devguide/developers.html still will (and does). On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 17:09:25 -0800, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > Indeed, if you have no keys around, the (automatically generated) > committers.txt file will not list you. > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, at 17:05, Jesu

Re: [python-committers] New installed Python builders

2015-11-23 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:11:15 +0200, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > On 23.11.15 18:00, R. David Murray wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:58:01 -0600, Zachary Ware > > wrote: > > I haven't looked at this, but unless the buildbot does *not* have write > > access to th

Re: [python-committers] New installed Python builders

2015-11-23 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:58:01 -0600, Zachary Ware wrote: > Hi, > > Inspired by a couple of issues about testing installed Python that > popped up this morning (#25694 and #25696), I've set up a new set of > builders[1] to build, install, and test the installed Python. They > run on the same slav

Re: [python-committers] Python 3.6 Release Schedule Details

2015-10-02 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 22:24:18 -0400, Ned Deily wrote: > Another change has been to add a fourth beta and drop the third > release candidate. My gut feeling from the past several releases is > that a lot of feature code does not get checked in until close to the > b1 feature code cutoff so that ext

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] How are we merging forward from the Bitbucket 3.5 repo?

2015-08-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:24:32 -0400, "R. David Murray" wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:13:10 -0700, Larry Hastings wrote: > > 3. After your push request is merged, you pull from > > bitbucket.com/larry/cpython350 into hg.python.org/cpython and merge > >

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] How are we managing 3.5 NEWS?

2015-08-16 Thread R. David Murray
The 3.5.0 patch flow question also brings up the question of how we are managing NEWS for 3.5.0 vs 3.5.1. We have some commits that are going in to both 3.5.0a2 and 3.5.1, and some that are only going in to 3.5.1. Currently the 3.5.1 NEWS says things are going in to 3.5.0a2, but that's obviously

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] How are we merging forward from the Bitbucket 3.5 repo?

2015-08-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:13:10 -0700, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > So far I've accepted two pull requests into > bitbucket.com/larry/cpython350 in the 3.5 branch, what will become > 3.5.0rc2. As usual, it's the contributor's responsibility to merge > forward; if their checkin goes in to 3.5, it

Re: [python-committers] A possible solution to the Misc/NEWS merging problem

2015-08-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:58:45 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: > On 11 August 2015 at 10:38, Brett Cannon wrote: > > We have all been there: you fix something in some maintenance branch, do > > your `hg pull` into the default branch, and everything but Misc/NEWS merges > > cleanly. You typically reve

Re: [python-committers] Having issues updating a checkout

2015-08-09 Thread R. David Murray
According to the infrastructure list/#python-infra, there is currently some instability in the load balancers. That is probably the source of these errors. On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 14:45:27 -0400, Ned Deily wrote: > > On Aug 9, 2015, at 14:19, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > Anyone else seeing this? >

[python-committers] erykun

2015-08-06 Thread R. David Murray
FYI I just granted Developer privs on the tracker to eryksun (real name unknown), after wondering why s/he hadn't just closed an issue s/he commented on and thereby finding s/he didn't have them yet. Someone to keep an eye on, IMO. --David ___ python-co

Re: [python-committers] "Gratuitous"? incompatibilities in the "fix only" releases

2015-07-29 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:11:53 +0200, Jesus Cea wrote: > On 29/07/15 18:50, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > I believe that in this particular case, the bug was fixed (by tightening > > the requirements for headers) because the bug can lead to security > > vulnerabilities. I think you can find more by Go

Re: [python-committers] "Gratuitous"? incompatibilities in the "fix only" releases

2015-07-29 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:41:09 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/29/2015 1:01 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > > On 30 July 2015 at 04:50, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >> I believe that in this particular case, the bug was fixed (by tightening > >> the > >> requirements for headers) because the bug can lea

Re: [python-committers] getting help with the hgaccounts alias

2015-07-22 Thread R. David Murray
I'm willing to volunteer for this. I understand how this stuff works, and no, it doesn't take much time per request... On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:29:25 -, Brett Cannon wrote: > Maybe once a month, if that. But there have been times when people have > sent in keys and it has taken a week or so to

[python-committers] Speaking of noticing tracker activity

2015-07-21 Thread R. David Murray
In the recent thread on python-dev Nick mentioned our dependence on people noticing active contributors on the tracker. In that regard I'd like to recommend people take a look at the work of Martin Panter (vadmium). --David ___ python-committers mailing

Re: [python-committers] How shall we conduct the Python 3.5 beta and rc periods? (Please vote!)

2015-05-14 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 14 May 2015 07:15:34 -0700, Larry Hastings wrote: > I'll start experimenting with the workflow(s) and will add documentation > to the Dev Guide. > > The fun starts next weekend, By "next weekend" you mean "the weekend after this coming weekend", right? (These calendar idioms always con

Re: [python-committers] Code review tool 500 error

2015-05-13 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 13 May 2015 15:43:17 -0400, Yury Selivanov wrote: > I can't post messages to the code review tool -- it shows > me 500 error page. Are you doing it from the front page? I think that doesn't work. In-line comments plus "publish comments" does work. --David __

Re: [python-committers] Do people prefer pushing feature repos or one massive patch?

2015-04-02 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:31:08 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Where I come from we always squash. More detailed history is preserved in > the code review tool (which keeps a snapshot every time you bounce it back > to the reviewer). Looking at my own sub-commits when I'm working on a > complex fea

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Paul Moore for commit privileges

2015-03-14 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 20:23:03 -, Brett Cannon wrote: > Paul has been participating on python-dev for quite a while, he is a > committer on pip, and (co-)author on 5 PEPs. At this point I think it would > be prudent for Paul to have commit privileges if for any other reason than > to help manage

Re: [python-committers] Mark Lawrence

2014-10-05 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 14:47:06 -0400, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2014, at 14:42, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > > On 05.10.14 21:15, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > > "BreamoreBoy" is back on tracker touching hundreds of issues without > > > adding any new information. This is certainly not

[python-committers] cherry picking after rc

2014-10-05 Thread R. David Murray
Larry, saw your discussion on IRC with Georg about what to cherry pick into the release clone before issuing final. IMO you shouldn't cherry pick anything, since I believe there have been *zero* issues opened that said that the RC was broken. IMO the only differences between the last RC and final

Re: [python-committers] Commit rights for Robert Collins

2014-09-23 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:27 +0100, Michael Foord wrote: > Robert Collins is volunteering to help with maintenance and improvement > of unittest. He's probably known to many of you, but Robert is the > creator of subunit, testtools and many Python libraries particularly in > the area of testin

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.4.2rc1 is now available

2014-09-22 Thread R. David Murray
(Trimmed CC) I couldn't reproduce this, nor did I see it in any of the stable buildbots when Larry reported he had an issue with it. Now that he's pushed his branch, the buildbots are red with it. So...Larry broke it, but it is not obvious how. Could it be something wrong with the pydoc topics

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Berker Peksag for push privileges

2014-06-17 Thread R. David Murray
I have emailed Berker to (among other things) send in his keys and introduce himself here after signing up. --David ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers

[python-committers] Proposing Berker Peksag for push privileges

2014-06-15 Thread R. David Murray
I'd like to propose that we give Berker Peksag push privileges. He's provided a number of good quality patches and done good review work on other issues, and has been an active contributor for quite some time. IMO we've reached the point where it will be easier to let him push patches. (We've alr

Re: [python-committers] Small change to tracker 'resolution'

2014-04-18 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:53:53 -0400, "R. David Murray" wrote: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:21:41 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 4/15/2014 9:45 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > > > On 04/15/2014 05:55 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > > >> > > >> [...

Re: [python-committers] New mailing list for workflow/workflow infrastructure discussion/tasks

2014-04-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:02:31 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/16/2014 4:49 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > > Apologies for the cross post, but I want to make sure committers who > > aren't reading python-dev for one reason or another see this: > > > > Based on a

[python-committers] New mailing list for workflow/workflow infrastructure discussion/tasks

2014-04-16 Thread R. David Murray
Apologies for the cross post, but I want to make sure committers who aren't reading python-dev for one reason or another see this: Based on a number of conversations at PyCon, we've created a new mailing list: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/core-workflow The purpose of this list is

Re: [python-committers] Small change to tracker 'resolution'

2014-04-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:21:41 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/15/2014 9:45 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > > On 04/15/2014 05:55 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > >> > >> [...] I've changed the text associated with the 'invalid' resolution > >> to read &#

[python-committers] Small change to tracker 'resolution'

2014-04-15 Thread R. David Murray
In a discussion at the sprints today Nick observed that 'invalid' was a resolution that carried a rather negative subtext ("your bug report was invalid", ie: "you made a mistake") , and that Red Hat used 'not a bug', which we all agreed was much more descriptive of the actual resolution. So, I've

Re: [python-committers] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0 release candidate 1

2014-02-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:01:38 -0800, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 02/10/2014 11:43 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce > > the first release candidate of Python 3.4. > > Yay!! > > Question: Now that we are in the RC phases, only criti

Re: [python-committers] Code review tool (rietveld) bug

2014-01-27 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:52:16 -0500, Yury Selivanov wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having difficulty with replying to a message in rietveld. > > Here's a screenshot of the exception: http://goo.gl/70iQ5v > (AttributeError at /review/20356/publish) > > Is this a known issue? Maybe I'm doing something w

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-26 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:35:46 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:13 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:59:19 -0800, Eli Bendersky > > wrote: > > > workplace we had a similar process screwed on top of Jenkins - private >

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:59:19 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > Interesting. Chromium has something kind-of similar, named "commit > > queue", > > > for developers without actual

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:35:59 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky > > wrote: > > > do the latter in Python, which carries a problem we'll probably need to &

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > do the latter in Python, which carries a problem we'll probably need to > resolve first - how to know that the bots are green enough. That really > needs human attention. By "that needs human attention", do you mean: dealing with the rema

[python-committers] svn.python.org SSL cert is expired

2013-12-25 Thread R. David Murray
So all the buildbots are red for the moment. A mixture of red and green would have been more appropriate for today, I think :) --David ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-commit

Re: [python-committers] 3.4 beta releases and the tracker

2013-12-02 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:59:15 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/2/2013 5:54 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > > > Is there an easy way to focus on tracker issues that can be worked on > > now that feature-freeze is in effect? > > Search (default) Status: open for Type: behavior or Components: > documena

Re: [python-committers] Anatoly has been warned about his behaviour potentially leading to his loss of tracker privileges

2013-12-01 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 19:29:25 +0100, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > > Quoting "R. David Murray" : > > > You should have the necessary privileges on the tracker now, since I > > think you ought to. (I don't have them on the meta-tracker, so Martin > >

Re: [python-committers] Anatoly has been warned about his behaviour potentially leading to his loss of tracker privileges

2013-12-01 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:11:47 +0100, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > > Quoting "R. David Murray" : > > > On the other hand, I'm not actually sure what kind of access is left > > when you remove all the roles from a user. I did notice the other day > > tha

Re: [python-committers] Anatoly has been warned about his behaviour potentially leading to his loss of tracker privileges

2013-11-30 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 12:12:08 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I don't appear to have the necessary tracker access to actually move > his account to read-only status, though (this change should be made on > the meta-tracker as well). You should have the necessary privileges on the tracker now, since I

Re: [python-committers] Anatoly has been warned about his behaviour potentially leading to his loss of tracker privileges

2013-11-29 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 14:41:22 -0800, Ned Deily wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 13:51 , Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > On ven., 2013-11-29 at 13:16 -0800, Ned Deily wrote: > > >> Why is it that we find him so annoying, enough to advocate fairly > >> drastic measures like banning? There have been an

Re: [python-committers] Anatoly has been warned about his behaviour potentially leading to his loss of tracker privileges

2013-11-29 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 13:16:32 -0800, Ned Deily wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:12 , Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > The question is, how effective will the alternative solution > > (banning him) be? I worry that it's just going to make things worse. > > I think that is a legitimate concern and

Re: [python-committers] Your buildbots are out of memory

2013-10-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:08:11 +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On 2013-10-24 16:59, R. David Murray wrote: > > > > However, it looks like someone has added some tests that use more tmp > > space, > > since the amount of /tmp that exist has been fine up until this point,

Re: [python-committers] Your buildbots are out of memory

2013-10-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:12:07 -0400, Brett Cannon wrote: > FYI if you didn't know You mean disk space? I don't get notified automatically when /tmp fills up with test detritus. I suppose I should set something up. However, it looks like someone has added some tests that use more tmp space, sinc

Re: [python-committers] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0a2

2013-09-09 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:45:51 +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:30:50 +0200, > Victor Stinner a écrit : > > 2013/9/9 Larry Hastings : > > > Python 3.4 includes a range of improvements of the 3.x series, > > > including hundreds of small improvements and bug fixes. Major new >

Re: [python-committers] Reminder: Python 3.4 alpha 1 release is Saturday August 3

2013-07-28 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:07:59 -0700, Larry Hastings wrote: > It's about nine days from now. I expect to tag the release late next > week. So if you're doing any major brain surgery, please finish it up > in the next week or so. FYI I'm planning on working on some non-trivial stuff for the emai

Re: [python-committers] [Infrastructure] [Pydotorg] XSS security issue

2013-07-15 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:02:35 +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On 2013-07-15 17:16, R. David Murray wrote: > > > >> I will make the password available to whoever is in charge, (Or they > >> can just change the password themselves I don't care). > > > >

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