[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread rob markwardt
Reading all this with interest...here's the exchange Grant mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hzoFgwFeMQ&feature=player_embedded At the end of his 'lecture' Taubes states "I recommend in the future you should pay attention to populations that might refute your hypothesis rather than pres

[RBW] Observations on cartridge brake pad replacement on Tektro 520s on a Sam

2011-08-14 Thread Earl Grey
I bought Tektro 520s for my Sam 2 years ago and have now worn down the brake pads. These Tektros came from Riv with mountain style cartridge pads, whereas Riv now sells the Tektros with road style cartridges. While I have always preferred the road style ones for aesthetics and the brakes' ability t

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Zack
I think it is necessary to read the book before commenting on whether or not Taubes addresses these things. He does. At length. With example after example. At least half of the book is spent refuting the paradigm/mindset that is being espoused in this thread by the people that have not read

[RBW] Re: FS: What is left

2011-08-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
As of 8/14/11 >> Stems >> >> 11 cm, roughly 10* rise 1 1/8 Easton, vg, $15 shipped: >> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#556792356611906 > >> Pedals: >> >> Pinned BMX pedals, vg quality, condition good, bearings v smooth, only >> text on them says "Stomp," $35 shipped: >> https://

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The discussion has been interesting enough that I, for one, will indeed do just that. For the record, I was responding to others' paraphrases of Taube's ideas which did not mention native differences in metabolism; that idea does make sense at first hearing. I remain skeptical of "one fits all" pr

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread David Faller
Thanks Zack! This is _precisely_ what I've been wanting to say, but was on the verge of a tirade. Arguing on the internet, in any form, is often dangerous and always stupid unless all parties are equally informed and open to having their beliefs toppled. I've been quietly humbled many times

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:03 AM, David Faller wrote: > Arguing on the internet, in any form, is often dangerous and always stupid > unless all parties are equally informed and open to having their beliefs > toppled. Arguing period, as any ten minutes spent watching a political debate will demons

[RBW] Grant's new game...

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Pesce
Caption for the Grant photo: "Hmmm, we need to come up with a harder game." congrats! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1HrlYylLHWwJ.

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Brewster Fong
On Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:15:13 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Perhaps I should and I will. But some of his positions (carb = bad) as > presented in this thread simply don't correspond to history. The > Chinese are getting fat from Big Macs and other animal fare, not from > their tradit

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Ryan J
I bought the book and started reading it, following the diet for the most part. He really doesn't preach anti-carb, but rather anti-processed foods, anti-calorie heavy, nutrient poor foods like white flour and sugar. The diet has made me feel not only more energetic, but all around healthier.

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

2011-08-14 Thread Shifty
Thanks for the inspiration, Thomas. If my self-employment allows, I'll be riding a 60 cm Hillborne in Ohio a week from today. If work doesn't allow, it'll be a little longer wait, unfortunately. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro

[RBW] Sam Hillborne Build

2011-08-14 Thread Brother Beaker
After the untimely demise of my Rambouillet, I have decided that the way to go is with a SH. I am fortunate that my LBS has both a 60 cm orange frame and a builder who actually worked for RBW. I am having a great time contemplating that build and Shawn has offered to let me essentially test ride

[RBW] Anyone rode both Hilsen and Hillborne back to back?

2011-08-14 Thread Shifty
If so, what were your impressions? Is there a noticeable difference in ride quality? Which one would you want to ride for a 50 or so mile joy ride? I layered one photo image over the other to see little difference in frame geometry, ignoring of course, Sam's sloping tube vs. Homer's level top tube

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread charles vail
I've been having trouble posting for several days now and hope this makes it through..We've been using the Taubes/Paleo/ Marks Daily Apple approach to eating and I have lost 24 pounds since last March. I still cheat with wine and chocolate but have for the most part eliminated grains and

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Zack
Patrick - I am glad you are going to read the book! I bet you will enjoy. I look forward to hearing your thoughts after you check it out. Good stuff. -Zack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne Build

2011-08-14 Thread cyclotourist
Give the Moustache bars a try. You'll either love 'em or hate him, but this is a good time to find out. Set up w/ a short stem, either the shortest (8cm??) Tech Dlx if you want them at seat level or a Dirt Drop 10cm if you want them up higher. If you're going to be doing trail riding a bit, mayb

[RBW] Re: FS: Full set of Ostrich canvas touring luggage

2011-08-14 Thread Zack
Sold! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A20iOSGi_lsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsub

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne Build

2011-08-14 Thread Zack
Have you considered a Hunqapillar? The stouter tubing may be beneficial to you. I was on the fence between the two and went with the Sam as it felt a bit quicker. My riding will be mostly on pavement as well. If I was going to be doing more trail riding than I am planning on (probably 15% of

[RBW] ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)

2011-08-14 Thread rcnute
I think I remember seeing this before--someone here should confirm the size and snap it up! http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Quickbeam-56cm-Single-Speed-Road-Bike-/190566014635?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item2c5e9e9eab Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)

2011-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
Odd. That one came up a couple weeks ago and someone snapped it up quickly. Maybe the buyer backed out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bun

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
It may be time to let this thread peter out. But, briefly, for those of you interested in the thermodynamics question, Taubes addresses it too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https:

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread IPATOM
I read Taubes most recent book in its entirety. There is no question that you can lose weight on a low carb diet but the problem is most people can't stick with it. The yearning for a bagel, pizza, etc.. will return. This is why the low carb industry of 10 years ago failed. MD's didn't destroy i

[RBW] silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
Can anyone point me to a source for silver Q/R wheel skewers, 130 rear spacing? All the better if they work particularly well with horizontal dropouts (I've been having problems with slippage under high torque). Just about everything out there these days is boring black or comes in a wild rainb

Re: [RBW] silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread René Sterental
Salsa should have them in silver. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: Can anyone point me to a source for silver Q/R wheel skewers, 130 rear spacing? All the better if they work particularly well with horizontal dropouts (I've been having problems with

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This is the idea that I was protesting against: it reads to me as a blanket assertion that carbs are unhealthy. But billions have for millennia lived principally on carbs and haven't been more unhealthy than anyone else (not that there were many people left over after you counted the "mostly carbs"

[RBW] Sam Hillborne Build

2011-08-14 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi! I'm 245lbs, 6' tall, 90cm PBH. I have a 60cm double-top-tube canti-studded orange Hillborne. I ride it 100+ miles per week, 52 weeks/year (studded tires!), mostly commuting, 75% decent trail, the rest not-so-good to good road. I regularly carry 10-15lbs cargo and have carried over 50lbs on

[RBW] Re: FS: Full set of Ostrich canvas touring luggage

2011-08-14 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Thank goodness! The last thing I need is *another* set of canvas bags/panniers. But man those were tempting... Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who already has one "The Big Bicycling" pannier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view

Re: [RBW] silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread cyclotourist
Not shiny, but that sorta' brushed finish: *http://tinyurl.com/3es4jw9* $30 you can't beat the price. On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Can anyone point me to a source for silver Q/R wheel skewers, 130 rear > spacing? All the better if they work particularly well with hori

[RBW] Re: silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread Garth
Velo Orange has some nice ones and they are for both 130-135mm spacing. These use the nice internal cams. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-ow

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Build

2011-08-14 Thread Garth
Yeah ... get better tires . . . there's lots to choose from that are going to be better for the typer of riding you described and the overall weight. Consider a slightly wider too it won't slow you down. Get foldable ones ... as many wired ones are much heavier and will feel sluggish compar

[RBW] Re: ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)

2011-08-14 Thread jandrews_nyc
What evidence is there to believe that it's a 58 vs a 56? just looks like a 58? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send emai

[RBW] Mileage on Jack Brown greens

2011-08-14 Thread Dave Faller
My JBs have about 3k on them. How many miles are people getting out of their greens? I only ride pavement and the rear is starting to look square. They are still performing wonderfully and have only had a couple of thorn flats each. I'm thinking of getting a new one and doing the Sheldon sh

Re: [RBW] 64cm Atlantis for sale

2011-08-14 Thread Anne Paulson
Still available? My son 6'4" son needs a bike. Your bike has a beautiful build, perfect for his needs though pricey. On Wednesday, August 10, 2011, Steve Lindly wrote: >The Atlantis is about five years old, Toyo-built, no wrecks, > scratches only in the usual places like the dropouts; no braz

[RBW] Re: 3 nice things from Rivendell

2011-08-14 Thread EricP
My three would be - RMX pedals. Now on all three of my bikes. For my riding style (lack thereof), they work. Wiggy sleeping bag. Just used it at a 4 day bluegrass festival. And two weeks earlier on my overnite to Wisconsin. My favorite bag in years. Clothing. Can't be specific as I like the r

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-14 Thread Kris
Wow..lots of reading...I don't any more now than I did a week ago. What I do know...if I ride more, eat better, and have fewer beers my pants fit better and I beat a few more friends to the top of hills. I'm pretty sure I'm done cutting things out of my life...pizza is yummy, french fries can't be

[RBW] Re: silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread benzzoy
Salsa skewers are very nice, and their service/after sales department is excellent to boot. But they're not really suitable for horizontal dropouts. If one doesn't mind the price, occasionally, Dura Ace and Campagnolo skewers come up on eBay. These have the internal cam mechanism that tends to o

[RBW] Re: silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
So how does the 130-135 spacing work? Does 5mm of extra axle stick out beyond the end of the nut thing? I don't get it. Or do you have to hacksaw off the 5mm you don't need? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this disc

[RBW] Re: ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)

2011-08-14 Thread rcnute
Yup! (I had a 56 and this looks a hair bigger at the head tube). Ryan On Aug 14, 1:38 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > What evidence is there to believe that it's a 58 vs a 56? just looks > like a 58? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gr

[RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread reynoldslugs
Sorry to resuscitate a dying thread, but here goes: I like the way the Taubes/Paleo makes me feel - -won't rehash. Problem I have is long rides - - 4 to 12 hours. I have not figured out the "Taubesian" foods work to keep you going during the ride, or how to handle that feeling of post-ride starva

Re: [RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread David Faller
During an energy-hogging ride it doesn't seem to matter how you eat. Your body is desperately looking for available calories, probably at a rate faster than you can digest them and make them available. 200 cal. per hour is probably all one should eat while riding to maintain the energy flow.

[RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Garth
Fresh fruit of your choice. My favorite though is fresh dates Batista dates are the best I've had. I'm talking fresh raw dates here...yes they still have the pits too. Pop some in your mouth and spit out the seed. The difference between these and store bought packaged and processes dates is

[RBW] Re: silver Q/R wheel skewers?

2011-08-14 Thread Garth
Just leave it a few mm's really nothing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M78iUrBfOKkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-

[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Zack
macadamia nuts, pepperoni or salami, some almonds, fruit. i have also seen some crazy paleo bar and cookie recipes, but they tend to use tons of honey. not sure how i feel about those. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Build

2011-08-14 Thread Earl Grey
Do what worked on the Ram, but here are a few additional thoughts (I am 5'9", 175lbs, ride a 56 Sam; here is my build: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc765-gernothuber0410.html but now with fenders, racks & basket and smooth tires: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/5739945039) If your Br

[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread reynoldslugs
Thanks for the replies. I'm going in for fruit. Dates and Prunes. How Many Pitts to Pittsburgh? Thanks. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubs

[RBW] Re: Mileage on Jack Brown greens

2011-08-14 Thread Mike
I know with my JB blues the sidewalls gave out before the tread. My greens have held up surprisingly well. I've tried to save them for events and riding on smooth roads. I replaced one after it just became really cut up and flatting frequently. I've been really fond of Schwalbes lately but have to

[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Allan in Portland
Oysters :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6u7EO0Sa4msJ. To post to this gr

[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
You can get Garth's suggestion of dates with Zach's for nuts in the pre-fab form of a Lara bar. Despite the variety of flavors, they're all basically some combination of nuts and dates or other dried fruits, with no added sugar or other b.s. I like the one called cashew cookie. Peanut butter is

[RBW] Re: ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)

2011-08-14 Thread Michael_S
that sure looks like a 58. I have a 58 Ram and the size looks the same. I'd be interested but I'm moving to a house with a 1 car garage in a week with 5 bikes and a tandem. I 'm not sure I can fit the ones I have. and I promised someone I would not get another bike until I make sure I can

[RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Brett Lindenbach
I like a salami and almond butter sammich for ridin'. You can keep the carb count low with flatbread. Delish! (my inlays think I'm nuts) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://gro

[RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Brett Lindenbach
Er, inlaws. Da,n autpcorrec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cP8wIVom620J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@goo

Re: [RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Anne Paulson
Medjool dates are delicious. Spanish ham with manchego on a baguette is delectable. But I fail to understand how either remotely fits a low carb diet. On Sunday, August 14, 2011, Aaron Thomas wrote: > You can get Garth's suggestion of dates with Zach's for nuts in the pre-fab form of a Lara bar.

Re: [RBW] Re: ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)

2011-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Michael_S wrote: > that sure looks like a 58. I have a 58 Ram and the size looks the same. > > I'd be interested but I'm moving to a house with a 1 car garage  in a > week with 5 bikes and a tandem. I 'm not sure I can fit the ones I have. > and I promised so

Re: [RBW] What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > Medjool dates are delicious. Spanish ham with manchego on a baguette is > delectable. But I fail to understand how either remotely fits a low carb > diet. > I wonder how figs work in this kind of diet. I've found dried figs are good on a lon

[RBW] Barra Garin

2011-08-14 Thread SISDDWG
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[RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

2011-08-14 Thread Allan in Portland
You hustle Grant outta 200 bucks, *then* come here to brag about it. Wow, that's cheek. Seriously though, I've been trying to decide between the sargeant and the vest, and as often as not thinking hmmm, maybe I should get both. Interesting you got both. -Allan -- You received this message be

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

2011-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
Get both -sv On Aug 15, 2011 12:29 AM, "Allan in Portland" wrote: > You hustle Grant outta 200 bucks, *then* come here to brag about it. Wow, > that's cheek. > > Seriously though, I've been trying to decide between the sargeant and the > vest, and as often as not thinking hmmm, maybe I should get

[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread Amit Singh
Nuts. I really enjoy the challenge of shelling and consuming pistachios while riding up steep grades. Bonus: it helps improve bicycle handling skills. Seriously, I enjoy almonds, walnuts, pecans, macadamia. My riding buddies and I make homemade "Larabars" to consume during longer rides. He

[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

2011-08-14 Thread grant
Lewis and Clark ate 9 pounds of meat a day, and hardly any anything else. Eskimos eat muscle and fat only. There are historical precendents for it, even in high-active people (can't bring myself to write "peoples") I've thought/obsessed over/read about this a lot in the last year and a half, and a

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

2011-08-14 Thread René Sterental
LOL!!! I'm not really bragging... I'm making the case for people to go visit RBW in person to buy stuff and see what happens... Yes, I got both the vest and the sweater and loved them on sight. Let's see how they work out once it gets cold and if I have issues with the itchiness or not. Still, the