This last weekend I replaced both my 700x35 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes.
These tires had 9,734.89 miles on them. I know most of you could care
less, but I found it interesting how much tread was still left. Take a
look at the cut-away view of the most worn tire. I apologize for the low
Grand Bois Cypres - tried them. The Hutchinsons are more durable, and
weigh about the same. When I do get around to swapping tires on the
Bleriot, there are some Soma Xpress tires in the bin.
Hey! Steve, you are retired! Want to ride a perm pop with me out of
Alexandria in October?
On
?
Tom Holy-s***-I-really-AM-a-clueless-idiot! Allingham
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On 08/18/2014 05:33 PM, Ryan wrote
On 08/19/2014 09:49 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
Steve (and all):
///And sometimes you really do have to know. For example, shift
cables fray and need periodic replacement. Even with bar end shifters
(which all those bikes have) where a fraying cable's stray ends will
poke you in the
Like Steve, I keep a notebook. While I am not particularly proactive about
replacing things, I do keep an eye on the tires and chain. And am usually
amazed by the mileage I get on both. Actually, my riding buddies are more
amazed :-)
The bike goes up on the stand for a clean and lube before
On 08/19/2014 03:22 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote:
Like Steve, I keep a notebook. While I am not particularly proactive
about replacing things, I do keep an eye on the tires and chain. And
am usually amazed by the mileage I get on both. Actually, my riding
buddies are more amazed :-)
The bike goes
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I put my bikes up on a work stand every 100 miles or so. I can see the back
tire just
, August 16, 2014 6:02 PM
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I put my bikes up on a work stand every 100 miles or so. I can see the
back tire just fine then and check condition at that time.
Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.netmailto:hein
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I put my bikes up on a work stand every 100 miles or so. I can see the
back tire just fine then and check condition at that time.
Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net javascript: wrote:
When I
On 08/18/2014 04:12 PM, Metin Uz wrote:
I ride 10K to 15K miles a year. If I were to check my bike and re-lube
the chain every 100 miles, I would have much less time to ride.
2 years ago I rode 11,111 miles. Last year my knee failed in November,
so I only managed 10,600 miles. I have plenty
my chain-cleaning doesn't cut into
my riding time at all.
Metin didn't say that it did. Metin merely said that if he were to
remove/soak/dry/relube his chain once every 3 or 4 days over a year, it
would be a time commitment that he could not afford. The fact that you,
Steve, do have the
If I recall , Steve, I believe you're retired, correct? So if you are not
working , you do have more time available. Nonetheless, those are
impressive yearly mileages and it's awesome that you are so meticulous.!
On Monday, August 18, 2014 3:26:36 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On
On 08/18/2014 05:33 PM, Ryan wrote:
If I recall , Steve, I believe you're retired, correct?
Yes, that's correct.
So if you are not working , you do have more time available.
True. However, it's not like it's really all that time-consuming, and
the payoff in terms of equipment longevity
That is a good point:) Now, to be totally honest, my retired partner does
my mechanical work for me...I'm kind of a spaz. He is a former potter and
extremely good with his hands
But, you are so right that good bikes deserve TLC and I'm extremely
sensitive to anything not quite right on my
With limited time, I try a different approach. I put at least 5,000 miles
on the fixed gear commuter. When the chain gets noisy, it gets lubed (maybe
once a month). I have a lifetime supply of chain in a spool, replaced maybe
once every other year.
I make sure my cables and tires are in good
Lifetime supply of chain in a spool? That's wild. I've never heard of
that. How did you hook that up? What chain manufacturer?
On Monday, August 18, 2014 4:00:45 PM UTC-7, Metin Uz wrote:
With limited time, I try a different approach. I put at least 5,000 miles
on the fixed gear
On 08/18/2014 06:44 PM, Ryan wrote:
I also like what Grant seaid about riding like a fairy not an ox. I'm
a big fairy, though.
Reminds me of a moment about 20 years ago, riding alongside this guy out
in rural Virginia. We're talking about wheels. I'm riding a 20 year
old Paramount, with
It's a half-used bulk spool of cheap KMC chain a bike shop was clearing
out, good for 5-speed but not indexed shifting. Works fine for fixed gear
since I run road chainrings and 3/32 cogs.
--Metin
On Monday, August 18, 2014 4:07:13 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Lifetime supply of chain in a
Steve - Since you choose to be stubborn, I'll venture to say one would last
between 2 to 3,000 miles. If that is the case, and we are still talking
about the virtues of safely rotating tires, it is my opinion that a
Schwalbe Marathon Supreme with 5, 6 or maybe even 7,000 miles is as safe
on
Not very long!
Cypres lasted less than 1000 miles on the rear for me in randonneuring
usage on smooth roads . Granted, I am tall and heavy, roughly 260 lbs.
But I would I would predict a similar life on a loaded commuting bike, not
to mention the additional road hazards in commuting.
*All that
What
??
You must be much lighter than I. The Cypres on the rear wheel was worn
through to the threads after 1000 miles for me.
On Aug 15, 2014 2:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On 08/15/2014 05:32 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
And how long would a
Gad, I'd not put the most worn in front! How does covering the weak tire
with a fender make it easier to monitor?
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:02 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
Steve - Since you choose to be stubborn, I'll venture to say one
When I was a poor college student, I tended to ride tires until they were
threadbare. (Or should that be tread-bare?) Then I realized that the cost
of emergency room visits far exceeds the cost of even the most expensive
FMB tubulars (not that I was riding those). To say nothing about the cost
Jim, that's what I meant about him being stubborn. He was not adding any
value to the conversation. He was just trolling. He did not get that kind
of mileage.
On Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:07:48 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
What
??
You must be much lighter than I. The
I am but 200 lb, sylph-like by comparison. Also. Note install new on front and
move front to rear.
Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
Not very long!
Cypres lasted less than 1000 miles on the rear for me in randonneuring
usage on smooth roads . Granted, I am tall and heavy, roughly 260
I put my bikes up on a work stand every 100 miles or so. I can see the back
tire just fine then and check condition at that time.
Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
When I was a poor college student, I tended to ride tires until they
were
threadbare. (Or should that be tread-bare?) Then I
Steve, I may owe you an apology. Re-reading your post I may have
misunderstood. If you were saying you got roughly 6,500+ miles out of the
tire I won't dispute that. If that is what you meant, than that is pretty
impressive for what is probably the most comfortable tire out there. Not a
That is what I got from the last one I replaced. Amazed me too. I checkef my
records several times.
'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
Steve, I may owe you an apology. Re-reading your post I may have
misunderstood. If you were saying you got roughly
As of today I have 9,340 commuter miles on my 700x35 Schwalbe Marathon
Supremes. These tires have been rotated front to back three times. I will
not rotate again, but it has become somewhat of a game to see how far these
tires will go. Also worth noting: I had 5 flats in the 1st 2,000 miles
I adhere to Sheldon Put the good one in front Brown's philosophy
about rotating tires: don't do it. As he explains, you don't want to
take the more worn-out rear tire and put it on front, because you
don't want front flats. Having a front tire and a rear tire equally
worn out is not a goal worth
Anne,
I'll agree that Sheldon's philosophy is applicable to some tires, but I
think it's safe to squeeze in a couple/three rotations on these Schwalbe's.
Matt
On Friday, August 15, 2014 9:43:52 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
I adhere to Sheldon Put the good one in front Brown's philosophy
On 08/15/2014 03:47 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Anne,
I'll agree that Sheldon's philosophy is applicable to some tires, but
I think it's safe to squeeze in a couple/three rotations on these
Schwalbe's.
Why would you want to go to that extra effort? You end up with the
Having had rapid deflations on front tires while riding, I have to say that
I want the best tire in front. I like to buy tires in 3s -- wear out the
rear, move the front to the rear, add the 3d tire to the front, place a new
order. Repeat as needed.
Yes, you will, or at least, may, eventually,
Because theoretically you end up with the 2 tires wearing out at the same
time, thus avoiding the annoyance of being left with an unusable rear and a
usable front.
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On 08/15/2014 03:47 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners
On 08/15/2014 04:10 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Because theoretically you end up with the 2 tires wearing out at the
same time, thus avoiding the annoyance of being left with an unusable
rear and a usable front.
And when you're getting there, you have a nearly worn through, squared
off tire up
It's really no extra effort at all. When I have the wheels off the bike to
re-lube the wheel bearings I rotate the tires. I suppose I like to do this
because I am not locked into a specific tire and enjoy matched sets.
On Friday, August 15, 2014 1:07:02 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On
On 08/15/2014 05:17 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
It's really no extra effort at all. When I have the wheels off the
bike to re-lube the wheel bearings I rotate the tires. I suppose I
like to do this because I am not locked into a specific tire and enjoy
matched sets.
And how long would a rear Grand Bois Cypres or Hetre last on a 30+ lbs.
Sam Hillborne committing 35 miles RT five days a week? How much do they
cost?
On Friday, August 15, 2014 2:24:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 08/15/2014 05:17 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
On 08/15/2014 05:32 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
And how long would a rear Grand Bois Cypres or Hetre last on a 30+
lbs. Sam Hillborne committing 35 miles RT five days a week? How much
do they cost?
The last one I discarded went on the front at 13,229 miles, was switched
Seems like a good time to note that in 19,500 miles I have worn out three
Schwalbe Marathons (not three sets, three tires -- the fourth tire is still
in service). And it's not that the tires weren't still riding fine, I just
got a little nervous when the undertread started peaking through. If I
Leaving that Marathon Supreme on the front was out of character. Normally
when the rear wears out, I put a new tire on the front and move the old
front to the rear. Rough guess is that rears wear twice as fast as fronts,
so normally the front is in better shape. Rear flats, while a nuisance,
Love it! And I love my Schwalbe tires, especially the standard Marathons. I
have 32s, 35s, 38s and even some 47s. I think between all the tires I've
had a combined number of flats that's less than 10 over 5yrs. I've also got
some Supremes and while they're nice… I don't know, I grown to love
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