[OT] Rudeness and Netiquette (was: FAQ)

2003-10-16 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:02:16AM -0400, Edward Croft wrote: > Well, then, if we are to look up the answers ourselves, and frankly the > resources in a lot of cases are lacking, incomplete, etc., and we aren't > welcomed here to ask questions, then what good is this list? I think you misunderstoo

Re: FAQ (was: Lousy answers)

2003-10-16 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 12:11:43PM -0400, Edward Croft wrote > The point I was trying to make was that the incident that I initially > spoke out on was when a list member returned to the list, said just > that, and asked if there was any word on RH10. Now think about it for a > moment, he hasn't be

FAQ (was: Lousy answers)

2003-10-15 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:29:37AM +0200, Jim Herrick wrote: > Sounds like we need an FAQ! The problem is, that - according to experience - those that are too lazy to read the documentation or use Google/archives are too lazy to read the FAQ as well, so it won't help as much as desired... Nonethe

Re: Lousy answers

2003-10-15 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:59:23AM +0200, R Sánchez wrote: > I just felt something had to be said here. In the last few weeks I've seen a > lot of really lousy answers, the most of them with the Red Hat 10/Fedora > stuff, but there have been others. Every now and then someone new stops in > to the

Fedora CDs (was: Product Pricing)

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:39:04PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have seen a reference on another mailing list that Red Hat has taken steps > to ensure that outfits like Cheapbytes have a simple, legally unambiguous way > to make copies available. So, there should be a CD or DVD based rele

Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 03:08:34PM -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:59, T. Ribbrock wrote: > > $100.- ?!?!? Definitely not targeted at the home user, meethinks, > > Hence the name; "Professional Workstation" as opposed to "Home USer > Deskto

Re: procmail expert needed

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 10:18:42PM -0400, Eric Wood wrote: > Basically I want search for key terms only after stripping the HTML from the > message because many spammers split up words with fake html tags, ie > viagra. [...] > Any ideas? Why not use SpamAssassin, after teaching it a sufficient num

Re: Product Pricing

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 03:37:43AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:55:19 -0400, William J. Salvino wrote: [...] > > Will there be a new-release boxed Red Hat operating system priced at > > $39.99 or less with or without support or printed materials? > > Different question:

Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 02:15:26PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: > BUY.COM now has the product online with a release date of 10/26/2003. > Their price is $100.99. Don't forget that it includes a full year of > RHN which by itself is $60. > > http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=20359120&loc=105&que

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: [...] > Gnome and KDE look > SO amatureish and unprofessional. Even XFCE which looked a lot like CDE has > started to look like Gnome. CDE is the most professional desktop I've seen > on linux, [...] Ahem. You *are* aware that this is

Re: Fedora madness

2003-09-29 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 01:31:48PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: [...] > Effectively, the following lists that were introduced together > with the original Red Hat Linux Project website: > > rhl-list > rhl-devel-list > rhl-beta-list > rhl-docs-list Thanks for the clarification. Learn som

Re: Fedora madness

2003-09-29 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:10:56PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:15:05 +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: > > > > > Is anyone else subscribing to the fedora list yet? > > > > > > Yes, because all subscribers of the rhl-* lists have been tra

Re: Fedora madness

2003-09-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:40:27PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:30:11 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > > > Is anyone else subscribing to the fedora list yet? > > Yes, because all subscribers of the rhl-* lists have been transferred > to the fedora-* lists. Effectively, the rh

Re: Fedora

2003-09-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:18:39AM +1000, Ian Mortimer wrote: > > > > What options are left to the SOHO server user if not Fedora or SUSE? > > > How about Mandrake? > > On a server? Debian or FreeBSD are likely to be more stable. Why not Mandrake on a server? I haven't used it for that (my o

Re: Fedora

2003-09-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:27:23AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: [...] > 1. You had the free package available for, well, free, and Red Hat > did not provide automatic updates. However, you _could_ get those using > other tools like yum, current, and apt-get. Fedora will still be free, >

Re: Fedora

2003-09-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:09:06AM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: > What options are left to the SOHO server user if not Fedora or SUSE? I've > never used anything except RH, but would like to start thinking about a fall > back plan in case Fedora is too bleeding edge for my needs. How about Mandrake?

Re: Moving Viewport with keyboard?

2003-09-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:18:17AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > This is really a seperate issue from your original question but > it is pretty easy to map other keys. For instance: > > xmodmap -e "keycode 71 = KP_Up" -e "keycode 72 = KP_Down" > xmodmap -e "keycode 73 = KP_Left" -e "keycode 73

Re: Moving Viewport with keyboard?

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:45:28AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > If you're using Gnome you could use the keyboard-mouse provided > by the accessibility features: > > run "gnome-accessibility-keyboard-properties" and enable both > "Enable keyboard accessibility features" and "Enable Mouse Keys"

Moving Viewport with keyboard?

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
Hi all, I have a laptop with a resolution of 800x480. I've set the virtual resolution to 800x600. It all works just dandy, but I have one question: Is there any way to scroll around the screen without having to use the mouse? Cheerio, Thomas -- ==> RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/

Re: Linear "RAID"? (was: Two partitions as one?)

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:31:30AM +1000, Ian Mortimer wrote: > They can be on the same disk. Likewise for LVM volumes. It's less efficient > than a single large partition but it can save you the cost of repartitioning. Cool, thanks (also to the others who responded!)! > Other (better) ways

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:48:00PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: [...] > but they all display this error when Netscape 7.1 starts: > >LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library >/usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.so >[/usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/

Linear "RAID"? (was: Two partitions as one?)

2003-09-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:56:59PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > I guess what you are referring to is linear mode (see > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.2). Actually, I think LVM was what I had seen earlier - using RAID for this is new to me... :-} > The exam

Two partitions as one?

2003-09-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
Hi all, I have RHL running on a Toshiba Libretto laptop and I have one little problem: The Libretto needs an extra partition for hibernating. As I have a 20GB drive in there, that partition has to be around the 8.4GB border ("old" BIOS). Not a problem as such, but that way, the large partition I w

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-09 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 04:22:58PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, I finally found a binary package combination > that works for > my up2date'd Red Hat Linux 7.2 (Intel) kernel 2.4.20-20.7: > > - Mozilla 1.3.1 > - Sun Java J2RE 1.4.0_04 (j2re-1_4_0_04-linux-i58

Re: Upgrading Mozilla.

2003-09-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:02:22AM -0400, James Moberg wrote: [...] > software. I have never upgraded Mozilla on my system. Currently I am > running version 0.9.9. I would like to upgrade to version 1.4 but don't > know if it's stable on this version of Linux. From what I read I have > to up

Re: hosting a domain name

2003-09-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:00:53PM -0400, John Rehmert wrote: > You might also want to look into RegisterFly (www.registerfly.com). > They don't have any initial fees and they only charge $9 or so per > year. I've been with them for 4+ years with no problems and I'm up > to 59 domains at this poin

Re: ISO Updates?

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:13:06PM -0400, Nick Kishfy wrote: > Well you can't really get it from the RHN (at least not with via > up2date). Basically as soon as you install a RedHat distro you have to > manually download and install an update just to connect to RHN. That's > fairly inconvenient and

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:51:30PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: [...] > Unfortunately, the other plugin > /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so > causes Netscape 7.1 to fail on startup: > > ws> netscape7 & > INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing f

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:05:28PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: [...] > When I restarted Netscape, I got the following message: > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library > /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so ^

Re: dd to clone hard drive

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:15:30AM +0200, Willem van der Walt<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have done what you want to do although it was not win 2000. > You might get an io error at the end of dd but things should work fine. > It should copy the hole thing as is and it should work. > Just check xx

dd to clone hard drive

2003-09-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
Hi all, I'm pretty certain this has been asked before and I did find a few things on Google, but I'd like to be sure to understand it fully... I have two 20GB hard drives with the same geometry, the only difference being that one of them is a more "silent" version. In the end, I want to use the "

Re: Remote access full graphical interface RH9

2003-08-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:43:31PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > I haven't yet found a free X server for windows for linux to forward to... Shouldn't Cygwin work for this as well? Cheerio, Thomas -- ==> RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-list&r=1&w=2 <== ---

Re: 50-pin SCSI Controllers

2003-08-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:28:28AM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: > Looking for personal recommendations on 50-pin SCSI controllers with > internal connectors. This does not need to be a new-ish model or > high-end, just needs to support an internal SCSI DDS-3 drive on Red Hat > Linux 8.0. Pretty much

Re: SCO and the FTC

2003-08-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:29:43PM +1000, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 22:19, T. Ribbrock wrote: > > > Wrong question. The correct question is: Why on earth does he have a > > 13+ line long signature, ignoring Netiquette? [...] > Dunno. But it's better

Re: SCO and the FTC

2003-08-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:02:11PM -1000, Marc Adler wrote: [...] > How the hell do you make your sig file change every time it gets > attached to a message? Wrong question. The correct question is: Why on earth does he have a 13+ line long signature, ignoring Netiquette? SCNR, Thomas -- ==> RH

Re: Sweet Success

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:17:34PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] > My concern is that people > will advocate Linux as having a faster desktop and then when people try > it (defaulting to GNOME, probably) they find this claim to seem false, > they will doubt other claims made by advocates (securit

Re: Calendar / Scheduler program

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 06:19:18PM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: > What program do people use for calendar/scheduler program ? [...] I started using "plan" recently, and so far, I'm very happy with it. http://www.bitrot.de/plan.html Cheerio, Thomas -- ==> RH List Archive: http://marc.thea

Re: OCR Software

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:25:31AM -0400, David Hart wrote: > Any suggestions for RH9? I made very good experiences with ClaraOCR: http://www.claraocr.org Admittedly, it has some stability problems at times, but it's has an excellent learning algorithm. Have a look at the FAQ on the site above f

Re: Sweet Success

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:46:32AM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 00:44, T. Ribbrock wrote: > > I disagree. I still run Linux machines with GUI on 64MB and 48MB and > > the only Windows that could match the performance on those machines is > > Win95 and lowe

Re: Sweet Success

2003-08-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:41:42PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] > > At one time we could boast that Linux could perform well on low-end > > hardware but such is no longer the case. Linux Likes RAM! As does any > > other OS out there. > > Sort of true. For a desktop, I think Linux is a bit

Re: USB Scanner

2003-08-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:14:56PM +0100, Paula Fernandes wrote: > Well, thanks gh, but for the moment I just have this one :( > > Do you think it is possible to configure has it was other scanner, like > the 3500c? They are quite similar... That question is best asked on the sane mailing list,

Re: A response from SCO

2003-08-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:34:57AM -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote: [...] > Yes, it can be clearly seen that SCO is actually using M$ windows > and MS Outlook to send and receive email on tyeir workstations. > Feel free to make whatever assumptions you wish based on this fact, > as they are probably al

Re: Trying to change SCSI cards

2003-08-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:42:28PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Content-Description: signed data > I'm running RedHat 9.0 (upraded from 8.0) and I have an Advansys ABP940U I'm > trying to change for an Adaptec 2940U, due to some problems I'm having with > my CDRW. [...] > Can someone please tell me

Re: building RPMs from SRPMs as non-root user

2003-07-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 03:01:00PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: [...] > > Then add every user that's supposed to build RPMs to "src". :-) > > That's a nice and quite simple setup as well. Too elaborate for my > user pool though ;-) . I have a user pool of, er, two. ;-) > Did you neve

Re: building RPMs from SRPMs as non-root user

2003-07-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:58:26PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Another simple way to do this is to just chown -R /usr/src to the user > that builds the rpm's. Works like a charm. I've done that in a slightly more refined way: - make a new group called "src" - chgrp -R src /usr/src/Re

Re: Alternatives to KDE/Gnome?

2003-07-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:03:56PM -0700, Samuel Flory wrote: > Windowmaker is not present in newer versions of RH. Which is rather annoying, but not a problem as such. > Even in older > versions of RH it has not been maintained in RH for a long time. The > menus are 80% filled with program

Re: antivirus software for redhat server

2003-07-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 02:27:03PM -0500, Stephen Smith wrote: > I couldn't have said it better! Look at what the prices are for M$ software > adn you don't see people running around complaining - they just go to the > store and buy it! Errr - no, most of them (home users anyway) just go to the n

Re: motherboard change

2003-07-17 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:58:55PM -0400, Vince Scimeca wrote: > I have also pulled drives from one box and put them in others using RH > 7.2 with no real issues. These were vastly different boxes with > different boards, processors memory etc. For me, RH detected the > changes in sound and video

Re: Had enough

2003-07-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:49:38AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > On Friday 11 July 2003 03:50, T. Ribbrock wrote this in an attempt to be > witty and informative: > > > At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had any serious > > problems with any pages, short

Re: Had enough

2003-07-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:01:38PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: > I've done a lot of work with mozilla and netscape, but unfortunately, on > Windows, nothing touches IE. Too many webmasters assume IE and won't > work properly with anything else. [...] At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had a

Re: Had enough

2003-07-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:28:54PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:15:56PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: > > Well, mutt works nicely with IMAP under cygwin... ;-) > > My wife and I have been married for just about 25 years, and if I want > to live to see 26, I w

Re: Serious Threats if I use RedHat Kernel - 2.4.20-8

2003-07-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:49:25PM -0500, Sadanapalli, Pradeep Kumar (MED, TCS) wrote: > I am forced to use the kernel version 2.4.20-8 which comes with > default installation of RedHat 9. Whereas the latest version of the > kernel for RedHat 9 is 2.4.20-18.9 . But as clearcase 5.0 only > supports

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:11:40PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: > I've tried a ton of Windows e-mail packages, and most really suck at > imap. Eudora, surprisingly enough, is great at pop but sucks at imap. [...] Well, mutt works nicely with IMAP under cygwin... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- ==> RH List Ar

Re: Installing RH 7.3 from ISO CD

2003-07-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:54:16PM +0200, Go, Jeffrey wrote: > I have downloaded the RH 7.3 ISO image and will be copying this to CD.. > When installing, do I just boot it off CD and install? Have a look at http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ Red Hat provides the necessary documentation onl

Re: Upgrade to Mozilla 1.4

2003-07-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 06:05:34PM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: > > You are running Red Hat, so wouldn't it be more convient to get your > > version of Mozilla 1.4 from Red Hat (Rawhide)? > > I am still runing RH 7.3. I am pretty sure if I install from RawHide package > I'd get all kind of p

Re: FYI: M$ v. Sun Microsytems Decision

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:30:44PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > T. Ribbrock wrote: > >> > >>Can't we just nuke them both? > > > > > >MS I don't care. Sun I would miss. > > Why would you miss Sun? There is now an open source fork of Java i

Re: FYI: M$ v. Sun Microsytems Decision

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:39:58PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=716&e=5&u=/ap/20030626/ap_on_bi_ge/microsoft_java > > > > > > Can't we just nuke them both? MS I don't care. Sun I would miss. Cheerio, Thomas -- ==>

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:45:48PM -0400, Javier Gostling wrote: > > RHL9 on a P2/300 with 384 MB at home. Running as mail server, desktop, > multiuser (there is a laptop that runs remote X sessions to the "big" > machine), web proxy, firewall. Not blazing fast, but it gets the job done. RHL 7.3

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:15:23PM -0400, Anthony E. Greene wrote: > On 25-Jun-2003/11:49 -0700, "Bailo, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > >Any OSS projects to 're-invent' the wheel? > > Berlin (renamed to something else?). It's now Fresco. http://www.fresco.org HTH. HAND. Thomas ;-) --

Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. Modern? If it still looks like CDE (which it did when I tried it a couple of weeks ago), it looks rather outdated in my eyes... ;-) But that's a matter of personal

Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:12:41PM +0200, Manuel Aróstegui Ramirez wrote: > I use Window Maker, for my is the best one, it is so > fast, what about RAM...? for wm RAM is not a > problem...;-) Right. Also, Window Maker is extremely easy to configure and there are tons of themes available for it...

Re: Linux (not) ready for desktop? [WAS Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?]

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:21:42PM +0300, Panos Platon Tsapralis wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:18:31PM +0300, Panos Platon Tsapralis wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 12:16, Peter Peltonen wrote: > > > > > > > Instead of 50 workstati

Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:13:42PM -0500, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: [...] > My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: > Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the > background), there would be only several icons on the desktop t

Apache on RH9 (was: what makes linux so secure?)

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:28:59PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: > One of the key differences between IIS and Apache is the way the web > server is started. [...] > On Linux, however, the web server almost always run under a non-privileged > account. If Apache is penetrated, the worst the attacker can do

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:09:31AM -0700, Bailo, John wrote: > With all the alternatives in Linux, are there alternatives to X itself? There is one project I know of: "The Berlin Consortium", which apperently started over and is now called "Fresco". See: http://www.fresco.org/ It is under acti

Re: [OT] Windows mailer

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:50:58PM -0700, Lazor, Ed wrote: > ? Are you talking about threading in terms of how the application > divides into seperate processes? Or, are you talking about thread > in the sense of the application organizing a group of common > messages, based on subject? I'm talk

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:38:10PM -0400, MWafkowski wrote: > I'll try to distill my point. At this time there is no full blown GUI > (functonality, eye candy, ease of use, etc.) that is not a pig on Linux. In this form, the argument is wrong. There's Window Maker, which offers all the functionali

[OT] Windows mailer (was: how do i install a c-compiler for redhat 9)

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:55:46PM +0100, MKlinke wrote: [...] > Your note leads me to the conclusion that you believe OE doesn't support > threads, it does... *Real* threading or just threading by subject? Cheerio, Thomas -- ==> RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-list&r=1

[OT] mutt on Windows (was: how do i install a c-compiler for redhat 9)

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:03:10PM -0700, Jonathan Bartlett wrote: > I could be wrong, but I thought mutt was available through cygwin. Yes, it is - I'm using it (and Cygwin) daily (only way to stand Win00). There's only one catch: The related Exchange server will have to have been set up to suppo

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:44:04PM -0400, Shaun T. Erickson wrote: [...] > For example, Mac OS X uses X, but the Aqua Window Manger/Desktop > Environment is very fast, so the whole thing is fast. Er... to the best of my knowledge, Mac OS X is *not* using X. Apple designed their own GUI setup, fro

Re: How do I get rid of Bluecurve?

2003-06-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 06:35:31PM -0600, Ryan McDougall wrote: [...] > Download some new themes from kdelook and try removing redhat-artwork. > Otherwise Im not sure how to help. I was under the impession that RH actuakky *patched* KDE and Qt, hence, a simple themechange wouldn't fully get rid of

Re: Root can't delete some files in /bin

2003-06-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:38:38PM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: > I am working to recover a server that's been hacked. The chkrootkit > tool shows that some binary (eg 'ls', 'ps', 'top') has been changed > (infected) by the hacker. [...] > So, basically my question is, how do I remove those f

Re: Win98 desktop look and feel, where to get the theme?

2003-06-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:12:08PM -0400, Michael Kalus wrote: > I only know in SuSE but there is a theme in KDE called "Redmond" which is to > my knowledge the closest you get to the "Windows Eperience" (No BSDs > included though) ;) Yeah, including a BSD would indeed be rather silly, unless you

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-20 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:52:13AM -0500, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: > I am migrating my workstations to RH9 from WindowsME and 98SE. > So... I intalled RH9.0 and all the workstations are so much slower, > all of the stuff is so much slower. Workstations are mostly Dells > with about 900M

Re: Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 05:16:15PM -0700, Samuel Flory wrote: > Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > > > > >One could always get an email client with spam filtering capabilities > >built in (like Mozilla) > > > It just takes a while teach mozilla that all of your mailing lists > aren't spam;-) The other

Re: Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:03:19PM -0400, Matthew Galgoci wrote: > I've removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I think using such a service on a > list is about the most obnoxious thing I've seen in a long time. > > Please send reports to the redhat-list-admin email address, I only check > the list ab

Re: Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 08:42:08AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 00:21 19 Jun 2003, T. Ribbrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > | I wonder, is there a way for the list software to recognize and > | unsubscribe such folks? > > No, because the report goes direc

[LISTADMIN] Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
Just got another one of those "SpamBlock: Please register to be allowed to send mail to me" mails - this is just plain stupid! Running list mail via such a mail address is rude at the least, IMO. Anyway, apparently [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not want to receive any mail from this list, hence, I sugges

Re: AOL Now Bouncing DHCP Addresses, Residential Addresses[May Be OT]

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:02:08AM -0500, Ronald W. Heiby wrote: > Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 2:10:04 AM, T. wrote: > > Huh? No, the question is: Why the fsck where those guys able to get on > > board with the BOX CUTTERS?!?! > > Because no one had thought of box cutters as a threat. That's exactl

Re: AOL Now Bouncing DHCP Addresses, Residential Addresses[May Be OT]

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:47:28PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Bret Hughes wrote: > > >It is analogous to spending 30 minutes in a security line at an airport > >and having to check your pocket knife because of the terrorist activity > >in our current environment. > > > >Bret > > > > > > S

Re: Linux desktop speed...

2003-06-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:43:56PM -0400, Ben Russo wrote: [...] > poster, X is SLOW SLOW SLOW and the GUI's are nowhere near as > smooth and clean looking. The latter is clearly a matter of personal preference. To me, for example, a nicely set-up Window Maker screen is miles ahead of the

Re: Linux desktop speed - Linux FUD

2003-06-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:48:34PM -0400, Ben Russo wrote: > Windows XP has virtual desktops (not as fully customizable as most > X-window managers, but good enough). So, after about 15-20 years, Windows has finally caught up in usability? >;-) > You have to get the Microsoft XP power toy for mu

Re: Linux desktop speed - Linux FUD

2003-06-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:18:39PM -0400, AragonX wrote: [...] > Now here is where we see eye to eye. Somewhat... > > X has been disappointing to me. I still have to use Windows because I > can't get my games on X. [...] Well, it all depends on what you're doing with your machine(s). In my eyes

Re: A Special Request

2003-06-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:39:53AM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I can't think of any Linux jokes to send on to him... maybe it's > just too early in the morning. Can anyone else think of any that I > can send on to him? Well, maybe he could use BOFH as an inspiring source... Should be pos

Re: Reading MS Mail attachments

2003-06-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 07:54:08AM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > Is there a Unix utility that understands how to unpack MS-TNEF mail > attachments? There is and I have used it in the past, but I can't remember its name - apparently, I've deleted it during the last upgrade... Have you tried Goog

Re: What distribution works well with old computers?

2003-06-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:42:12PM -0500, Paul Sutcliffe wrote: > What distribution works well with old computers? like a pentiumMMX > 233MHz I have RH 7.3 running on my Toshiba Libretto (P166MMX, 64MB) as well as on a HP "all-on-board" machine (P233MMX, 48MB). Both work amazingly well, even with

Re: pls do NOT abuse the list

2003-05-29 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 06:24:09AM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html GREAT link, thanks! If my sig wasn't already four lines, I'd add it as well... That link should be displayed at a very prominent place in the new FAQ some folks are working on

Re: pls do NOT abuse the list (was "Re: xinetd")

2003-05-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 07:50:02AM +0800, Redhat71 wrote: > > Nguyen, David M wrote: > >> My machine does not have xinetd installed. Where can I get a download > >> and how to install it? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> David > >> > >> > > Do a google on 'xinetd' > > suggesting others to use google is a g

Re: New Kernel and PCMCIA [WORKAROUND]

2003-05-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 12:31:08PM -0700, Patrick Nelson wrote: > I copied the following directory from > > /lib/modules/2.4.18-27.7.x/pcmcia > > to > > /lib/modules/2.4.20-13.7/pcmcia Have a look at Bugzilla - this has already been filed several times and apparently, there are also workaro

Re: up2date

2003-04-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 10:32:29PM +0800, Redhat71 wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:04:54PM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote: > > [...] Please get your attributions right, the part below was written by me... > > Just to clarify it (I've never used up2date): You *do* need a RHN > > subscription for up2d

Re: up2date

2003-04-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:04:54PM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:56:50PM -0500, fred smith wrote: > > I've been trying since Monday to get into up2date and get nothing but > > "Demo service currently disabled due to high load." I've even written > > a shellscript that retries

Re: GCC and Redhat 8.0

2003-04-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:15:01PM -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: [...] > If you must have 2.95.3 (or any version of the compiler that doesn't come > as an RPM *designed to live peacefully with the stock comiler*), the best > strategy is to grab the tarballs from gcc.gnu.org and install them in > /

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 04:13:35PM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: > On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 15:15, T. Ribbrock wrote: [...] > > As I said, basically all SRPMs from RH I've seen so far contain > > RH-patches. Those patches need to be developped, tested and > > maintained. That&

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:26:27AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: > The things you see in the RH kernel are typically backports of features > from the development kernel. Yes, it does make the RH kernel different, > but not terribly special. Obviously, RH has developers (Alan Cox comes > to mind), but

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 04:24:55PM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:08:13PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: [...] > > good releases, some even excellent at the time). The fact that RH is > > keeping quiet about their intentions in this regard doesn't help,

Re: Stop the disinformation! (Was Re: Download Redhat 9 right now)

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:15:59AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] > Yes, wxPython! ;-) But then they'd get into the same quandry they've > gotten into with Python. They insist on naming it 'python' and then > resting a bunch of dependencies on top of the version number, which > makes it difficul

Re: Download Redhat 9 right now

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:02:31AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] > explicitly allows for GPL'd software to be sold. But "free speech" > definitely implies that it can't be "bootlegged", even if it is sold > otherwise. [...] Point well taken. Of course you're right. However, my main concern is t

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:44:17AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] > It isn't clear to me how RedHat releasing newer versions of software > faster is going to make much difference. RedHat doesn't write 99% of > the software in RH Linux. What's the difference between the user > installing the late

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:37:53AM -0700, Ryan McDougall wrote: > Please provide to me the source of your assertion that there will be no > more point releases, because I have seen no such statement by Redhat. They're not saying it with so many words, but this makes me wary: In the past, Red Hat

Re: Download Redhat 9 right now

2003-04-01 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:36:47PM -0800, Eric Brophy wrote: [...] > Maybe I missed something but I thought that Linux was "free". How can you > boot-leg something with no price? Maybe I missed something. BZZT! Thanks for playing, better luck next time! ;-) The 'no price' thingy is the most

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