[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-28 Thread mabshoff
[Ooops, I didn't realize that this was CCed to sage-devel, so here is my reply, slightly edited for public consumption] William Stein wrote: > Michael, William > > I want to somehow start a very tentative *actual* step toward doing a > native windows port. I installed > Windows into vmware on

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-28 Thread William Stein
> > I want to somehow start a very tentative *actual* step toward doing a > > native windows port. I installed > > Windows into vmware on my laptop yesterday. I think the first thing > > we need to do is decide whether > > we're going to: > > (1) build our own Python using mingw, > > or (2

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-28 Thread William Stein
Abshoff: > Do you got the statistics script for downloads of Sage? I checked my > Sage mirror logs and it looks like I had about 100 binary downloads > from 11/01-11/26 this month from sage.apcocoa.org alone. Last week the stats on sagemath.org were: Linux Binary 30 OS X Binary 11 Source 22 VMwar

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-28 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 28, 4:46 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I want to somehow start a very tentative *actual* step toward doing a > > > native windows port. I installed > > > Windows into vmware on my laptop yesterday. I think the first thing > > > we need to do is decide whether > >

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-28 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 28, 5:15 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Abshoff: > > > Do you got the statistics script for downloads of Sage? I checked my > > Sage mirror logs and it looks like I had about 100 binary downloads > > from 11/01-11/26 this month from sage.apcocoa.org alone. > > Last week

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-28 Thread mabshoff
Ok, the statistics for sage.apcocoa.org over roughly 4 weeks, not 1 week like William's stats: Linux Binary: 33 205, 205, 205, 205, 205, 205, at, be, be, ch, ch, com, com, de, de, de, de, de, de, de, de, de, de, de, ie, it, net, net, net, net, pl, uk, uk OS X Binary: 10 205, at, at, de, de, de,

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-29 Thread David Harvey
On Nov 29, 2007, at 4:48 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > Ok, I started fleshing out the windows port page at > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows > > Please add content and/or comments, we need to get this going. A data > point: Maxima 5.13 was downloaded about 40,000 times for Windows since > the re

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-29 Thread mabshoff
Ok, I started fleshing out the windows port page at http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows Please add content and/or comments, we need to get this going. A data point: Maxima 5.13 was downloaded about 40,000 times for Windows since the release in August while Linux downloads in that time frame are

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-29 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 29, 11:10 pm, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007, at 4:48 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > > Ok, I started fleshing out the windows port page at > > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows > > > Please add content and/or comments, we need to get this going. A data > > poin

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-29 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 30, 12:45 am, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007, at 5:41 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > >> So, hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to help with windows > >> development, what are my options for getting windows running on my > >> macbook? > > > With bootcamp you can insta

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-29 Thread David Harvey
On Nov 29, 2007, at 5:41 PM, mabshoff wrote: >> So, hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to help with windows >> development, what are my options for getting windows running on my >> macbook? >> > > With bootcamp you can install Windows in a separate partition. VMWare > Fusion lets you virtualiz

[sage-devel] Re: windows

2007-11-30 Thread William Stein
On Nov 29, 2007 3:52 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So I would need to upgrade to 10.5.x ($$), and buy a copy of windows > > ($$), if I wanted to do this legally. That's quite a hurdle. > > Fusion & Parallels work on 10.4. Bootcamp is no longer available from > Apple because it was released

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-25 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 21, 5:42 pm, kcrisman wrote: Hi, > I had a long rationale for why I am interested in knowing the status > of the Windows port, but upon reading it I realized the biggest reason > is sheer curiosity, so I'll just ask.  The relevant wiki pages and > Google group don't give much inkling,

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-25 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: "mabshoff" > That is why having an MSI installer that > includes Cygwin is important at that stage since dropping a working > Sage into a "foreign" Cygwin is assured with probability 1 to be > broken in some aspect. That will create problems though if Cygwin is already installed. There s

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-25 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 25, 8:26 am, "Alec Mihailovs" wrote: > From: "mabshoff" Hi, > > That is why having an MSI installer that > > includes Cygwin is important at that stage since dropping a working > > Sage into a "foreign" Cygwin is assured with probability 1 to be > > broken in some aspect. > > That wil

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-25 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: "mabshoff" > There shouldn't be two cygwin.dlls on the same computer. > No, this does not apply since first cygwin1.dll in %PATH% or CWD will > be the one used if no DLL has been loaded into RAM. You cannot run two > different Cygwin instances at the same time and expect them to work. Th

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-25 Thread kcrisman
> Is that September 2009? If we do not have something native on Windows > then we are in deep trouble. The technical discussion above was very interesting, as I know little about Windows internals, and it sounds like tons of good work is going on with supporting so many architectures. I probably

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-25 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, kcrisman wrote: > >> Is that September 2009? If we do not have something native on Windows >> then we are in deep trouble. > > The technical discussion above was very interesting, as I know little > about Windows internals, and it sounds like tons of good work is

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 25, 8:53 am, "Alec Mihailovs" wrote: > From: "mabshoff" > > > There shouldn't be two cygwin.dlls on the same computer. > > No, this does not apply since first cygwin1.dll in %PATH% or CWD will > > be the one used if no DLL has been loaded into RAM. You cannot run two > > different Cygwi

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 25, 6:04 pm, kcrisman wrote: > > Is that September 2009? If we do not have something native on Windows > > then we are in deep trouble. > > The technical discussion above was very interesting, as I know little > about Windows internals, and it sounds like tons of good work is going > on

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread kcrisman
> Just out of curiosity, what is so difficult about installing VMware + > VMware Sage?  Let me break this down into two questions: > > (1) What are some things that are difficult about installing VMware? > This is a well-supported commercial product made by publicly traded > company with an operat

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread bsdz
I feel one fairly big problem with the VMware installation is the sheer size of the binary to download. Other issues are performance; running a Sage server in a VMware session is noticeable slower than connecting to an on-line Linux version. Then there are some practical problems such as accessing

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread William Stein
Hi, I just want to thank bsdz for responding, and emphasize that the point of this thread is mainly to see what options there are to make the VMware-sage experience much better, while we wait for the native windows port. There are likely many "highly annoying" issues people have with the vmware

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread bsdz
I see what you mean by the download size. Perhaps another option might be to offer the source code as a separate download if any is included. > VMware Sage is likely mostly going > to be faster than a native windows port, especially on modern > processors. I'm not too sure if this sounds correct

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-26 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM, bsdz wrote: > > I see what you mean by the download size. Perhaps another option might > be to offer the source code as a separate download if any is included. Almost no source code is included, except for the core sage library (which isn't that much, especially

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-27 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 26, 12:48 pm, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Other issues are performance; > > running a Sage server in a VMware session is noticeable slower than > > connecting to an on-line Linux version. > > For *raw computations* (cpu bound code, e.g., computing determinants, > solving systems, e

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:36 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Jan 26, 12:48 pm, William Stein wrote: >> Hi, > > > >> > Other issues are performance; >> > running a Sage server in a VMware session is noticeable slower than >> > connecting to an on-line Linux version. >> >> For *raw computations* (

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-27 Thread bsdz
To use WinSCP start VMware Player session and login as "manage" user. Switch to root user by typing "sudo su". Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and ensure PermitRootLogin is set to "yes". Download WinSCP from http://winscp.net/eng/download.php. Start WinSCP and use IP address of VMware Player as Host nam

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:49 PM, bsdz wrote: > > To use WinSCP start VMware Player session and login as "manage" user. > Switch to root user by typing "sudo su". Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and > ensure PermitRootLogin is set to "yes". Download WinSCP from > http://winscp.net/eng/download.php. Sta

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-28 Thread Alec Mihailovs
Another alternative, for using Sage in class, instead of using a (non-existing) native Windows port, or one of the virtualizations, is to use it from a live CD, booting Linux. The CDs are easy to distribute in class, and students don't have to download and install anything. Alec --~--~-

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-28 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Alec Mihailovs wrote: > > Another alternative, for using Sage in class, instead of using a > (non-existing) native Windows port, or one of the virtualizations, is to use > it from a live CD, booting Linux. The CDs are easy to distribute in class, > and students d

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-28 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:32 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Alec Mihailovs wrote: >> >> Another alternative, for using Sage in class, instead of using a >> (non-existing) native Windows port, or one of the virtualizations, is to use >> it from a live CD, booting L

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-01-28 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Dom, 2009-01-25 às 18:04 -0800, kcrisman escreveu: > > Will there be a sage.exe file (or something like that) that my > students can download straight from sagemath.org and use right away on > a Windows machine? I believe this is the big point of the whole thread. Even though sage's users cur

[sage-devel] Re: Windows

2009-02-02 Thread Yair Goldberg
Errr Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you need WinSCP for, but this seems overly complicated. All you have to do is start the VMware player Sage image and enter "notebook" at the login screen. It will then give you an IP address which you can use in WinSCP (or ssh to). username is "login" pas

[sage-devel] Re: Windows release

2017-08-11 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 9:28:59 AM UTC+1, Erik Bray wrote: > > Earlier this week I finally had an opportunity to build a Windows > release for Sage 8.0 (which would have preferably been done before the > release announcement of 8.0 but things didn't work out > timing/communication-wise).

[sage-devel] Re: Windows release

2017-08-11 Thread aishen
Thanks you very much for this release I was waiting for it to see how sage 8 behaves on windows and linux Best Henri Le vendredi 11 août 2017 10:28:59 UTC+2, Erik Bray a écrit : > > Earlier this week I finally had an opportunity to build a Windows > release for Sage 8.0 (which would have prefera

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my university. I think it would not be illegal to compile and distribute sage for you with it. But remember, i am not a lawyer...AAP On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:00 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > I am getting v

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:31 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: Hi, > If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my > university. The Sage project has several MSVC 2008 Professional licenses donated by Microsoft Research for the port, so we are good. The point William was trying to make

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Kenny
There is no need for a window$ server... don't waste your time in such a bad way... it is easy to use the wmplayer and the image that the sage team provides from the website. Obviously don't be mad at me, that's just the way i see and therefore take it as a suggestion. bye Rob. ahmet alper par

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:37 am, Kenny wrote: Hi Rob, > There is no need for a window$ server... don't waste your time in such > a > bad way... it is easy to use the wmplayer and the image that the sage > team > provides from the website. There are *plenty* of reasons to do a native port, not but limited

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
I think one of the main idea behind developing a real alternative for Magma, Matlab, Mathematica etc. is their license costs and restrictions on altering the source code etc. Personally, if I had chance to not to use windows, I won't. Let me give an example, last night I read an article about backw

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 5:16 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: Hi, > I think one of the main idea behind developing a real alternative for Magma, > Matlab, Mathematica etc. is their license costs and restrictions on altering > the source code etc. Personally, if I had chance to not to use windows, I > won't. Le

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
I will help with the Windows port. Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? On Feb 23, 5:00 am, William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > I am getting very impatient about how slowly work on the Microsoft > Windows Sage Project has been moving.  Thus I've started a new project > to

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
The article was:http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029 I am not sure about it's technical correctness.. AAP On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:16 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > On Feb 23, 5:16 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think one of the main idea behind developing a real altern

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread kcrisman
Just FYI, there is a miniscule typo on http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/msvc64-issues insofar as it refers to the 32-bit port. Also, http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/timeline probably should be updated e.g. with a cut-and-paste of some part of the OP's first message in this thread. It sounds lik

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:41 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: Hi, > The article was:http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029 > I am not sure about it's technical correctness.. > AAP Thanks for the link. Note that the article was posted on "Thursday, April 03, 2008" - I thought maybe it was two da

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:45 am, kcrisman wrote: Hi, > Just FYI, there is a miniscule typo > onhttp://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/msvc64-issues > insofar as it refers to the 32-bit port. This is correct since for now we are doing 32 bits only, at least from my end which is complementary to what William do

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Alfredo Portes
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff wrote: > Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard > zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code. Given > that the beta has been downloaded a couple million times from MS > themselves as well as probably

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 6:26 am, Blair wrote: > I will help with the Windows port. > > Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? Which source code specifically do you mean? If things get checked in it won't be SVN, but HG. *Anything* but CVS or SVN :) Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~---

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:52 am, Alfredo Portes wrote: Hi Alfredo, > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard > > zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code. Given > > that the beta has been downloade

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:38 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Feb 23, 3:31 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > Hi, > >> If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my >> university. > > The Sage project has several MSVC 2008 Professional licenses donated > by Microsoft Research

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Blair wrote: > > I will help with the Windows port. Thanks. What's your last name? I want to add it to the windows.sagemath.org page. Also, please subscribe to the sage-windows mailing list. > Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? We'll likely use

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread didier deshommes
The link to the windows binary seems light (64MB); which parts of sage are included in it? didier On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > I am getting very impatient about how slowly work on the Microsoft > Windows Sage Project has been moving. Thus

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
I thought the complete windows port should be available via SCM. I find working on downloaded source snapshots a bit too cumbersome. Is there an advantage of using HG/Mercurial over SVN. Speed perhaps? On Windows, TortoiseSVN is very popular among many open source projects because of its tight i

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the latest source snapshot from the Windows site? On Feb 23, 4:44 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Tim Lahey
On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: > > My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. > > I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to > Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the > latest source snapshot from the Windows site? Blair

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 9:37 am, Tim Lahey wrote: > On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: > > > > > My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. > > > I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to > > Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the > >

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
TortoiseHg and 32 bit look like they fit the bill for me. Thanks. On Feb 23, 5:45 pm, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 23, 9:37 am, Tim Lahey wrote: > > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: > > > > My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. > > > > I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM, didier deshommes wrote: > > The link to the windows binary seems light (64MB); which parts of > sage are included in it? cython, freetype, ipython, libpng, matplotlib, mercurial, moin, mpir, networkx, numpy, pycrypto, pyreadline, python, pywin32, scons, sympy, t

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Blair wrote: > > I thought the complete windows port should be available via SCM. Yes of course that will be a shortterm goal. Otherwise collaboration is difficult. > I find working on downloaded source snapshots a bit too cumbersome. > > Is there an advantage

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage Devels, etc. [...] > > If you are interested in helping, see the web page, download the > newest zip file and start hacking. If you have something useful to > say, respond to this email and join the sage-windows mailing list. > Useful? I downloaded MSVC 2008 pro

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > [...] >> >> If you are interested in helping, see the web page, download the >> newest zip file and start hacking.  If you have something useful to >> say, respond to this email and join the s

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wrote: > Here's something to try: FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab work. Running sage results in the following (not much in dir()...?): C:\source

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Here's something to try: > > FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 > Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab >

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> William Stein wrote: >>> Hi Sage Devels, etc. >> [...] >>> If you are interested in helping, see the web page, download the >>> newest zip file and start hacking. If you have something useful to >>> say, respond to thi

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Here's something to try: > > FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 > Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab > work. M

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Here's something to try: > > FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 > Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab > work. >

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Jaap Spies
Fredrik Johansson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Here's something to try: > > FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 > Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab > work. > For me building with the express e

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-14 Thread Kelvin Li
Currently, windows porting efforts are focusing on porting to Cygwin. One of the targets for the Sage-5.0 release is a successful port to Cygwin. Here is a page with some good info: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/wiki/CygwinPort I am not involved in the project myself. Someone else with more

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-15 Thread Alexandre Blondin Massé
Hi ! Thank you for the detailed answer. It will help to find someone who could work on the Windows port and I'm glad it seems reasonable to ask a good undergraduated student in computer science to do the job, at least partially. Alexandre -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@go

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Mike, I recall reporting some weirdness on Windows 7, originating from the randomized addressing issue. (that's what rebase and rebaseall Cygwin utilities are/were fighting). At that time Cygwin still had Python 2.5. Is it correct that since then it has fixed itself, as Cygwin folks found a way t

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/16/11 2:04 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: As XP is becoming obsolete (it does not seem to be possible to easily buy it, or a new computer with it preinstalled) In fact, it's been end-of-lifed: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/help/end-support Jason -- To post to this group, send a

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/16/11 8:16 AM, Jason Grout wrote: On 4/16/11 2:04 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: As XP is becoming obsolete (it does not seem to be possible to easily buy it, or a new computer with it preinstalled) In fact, it's been end-of-lifed: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/help/end-support

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread Keshav Kini
Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts currently underpinning Sage, and we'd probably have to convert those to Python or something to make them

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread Volker Braun
A lot of the C code is Sage relies on posix, in particular fork() is not provided by the Win32 API. So a plain Win32-version of Sage would be a very invasive rewrite of a lot of stuff. Even Microsoft noticed that you need to support posix for real work, so they have SFU (Windows Services for UN

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Apr 19, 7:27 pm, Keshav Kini wrote: > Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being > ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a > couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts currently underpinning Sage, > and we'd probably have to conv

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/19/11 9:32 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Similar tasks for Singular, Maxima, etc etc... Maxima appears to already support Windows, at least in some shape or form: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/download.html Jason -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To uns

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 19 Apr., 13:27, Keshav Kini wrote: > Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being > ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a > couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts currently underpinning Sage, > and we'd probably have to conve

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread Volker Braun
If you are fine with using a virtual machine then just punch the notebook port through. The only thing running native would be the browser rendering the worksheet. Of course you need admin rights to install a virtual machine, and there can be only one hypervisor on the system. So you'll never ha

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread RegB
Perhaps even farther off topic; I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ most MS_Windows folk - from THEIR point of view. The path to getting Cygwin/X up and running "usefully" on a MS_Windows platform is long and arduous for the naive user, e.g. it was so for me. Oracle

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread kcrisman
On Apr 20, 10:20 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Perhaps even farther off topic; > I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ > most MS_Windows > folk - from THEIR point of view. > The path to getting Cygwin/X up and running "usefully" on a MS_Windows > plat

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Apr 20, 10:20 pm, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Perhaps even farther off topic; > I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ > most MS_Windows > folk - from THEIR point of view. > The path to getting Cygwin/X up and running "usefully" on a MS_Windows > plat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-15 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > I recall reporting some weirdness on Windows 7, originating from the > randomized addressing issue. > (that's what rebase and rebaseall Cygwin utilities are/were fighting). > At that time Cygwin still had Python 2.5. > > Is it correct that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Mike, On 16 April 2011 14:36, Mike Hansen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> I recall reporting some weirdness on Windows 7, originating from the >> randomized addressing issue. >> (that's what rebase and rebaseall Cygwin utilities are/were fighting). >> At that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread David Kirkby
On 19 April 2011 12:27, Keshav Kini wrote: > Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being > ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a > couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts currently underpinning Sage, > and we'd probably have to co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Georg S. Weber wrote: > > > On 19 Apr., 13:27, Keshav Kini wrote: >> Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being >> ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a >> couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/20/11 04:21 AM, William Stein wrote: Python was annoyingly seriously broke on Cygwin for about 8 months. Gary understood exactly what the problem was, but the Cygwin dev's didn't seem to agree... at least not until several months.At the time (5 years ago), at least, it was very difficu

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > If you are fine with using a virtual machine then just punch the notebook > port through. The only thing running native would be the browser rendering > the worksheet. I think that this is the whole point no matter what approach we take; the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread John Cremona
Why not move this thread to the sage-windows group? John On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Apr 20, 10:20 pm, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Perhaps even farther off topic; >> I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ >> most MS_

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:07 AM, John Cremona wrote: > Why not move this thread to the sage-windows group? +1 -- I cross-posted my response there. > > John > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 20, 10:20 pm, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> Perhap

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread William Stein
[Please respond on sage-windows...] On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > If you are fine with using a virtual machine then just punch the notebook > port through. The only thing running native would be the browser rendering > the worksheet. Of course you need admin rights to ins

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Port of MPIR : Access to Core 2 needed

2009-03-03 Thread ahmet alper parker
yep. core 2 duo T7250 2 gb ddr2 Sdram on a vaio vgn-fz21m sony laptop with vista home premium 32 bit. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Bill Hart wrote: > > Does anyone have access to a Core 2 machine (any speed) with Windows > on it. Brian Gladman of the MPIR project has ported some new assembly >

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Port of MPIR : Access to Core 2 needed

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Hart
Thanks for the reply ahmet. Turns out we need 64 bit windows, which I should have mentioned. However I have just been told we in fact have Windows figures for Core 2. So somehow I have got this mixed up. It was linux on Core 2 we needed. But of course that is trivial. Thanks for your help, but w