Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

I wrote: > > Next, if you leave the lid off you no longer have a closed system. > > Distilled water (and your CS), will absorb carbon dioxide from the air > > and form (I think it is...) carbolic acid. Indi replies: > Yes well, the idea that we actually make containers which contain only > H2O an

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

I don't think I did. You said that neither can be proved one way or the other, but I have proved beyond any shadow of doubt that EIS works, as have you and thousands of others! Totally different to religion. dee Neville wrote: You totally missed my point, which was that anything can be argue

CS>Anecdotal versus laboratory testing methods

I had a thought about this. Didn't the latter come about because it became somewhat 'undesirable' to test things actually on people? In the early days when things like bella donna and arsenic were used, they must have tested the doses on people in order to decide what were the beneficial amou

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

My problem with you, dude is that you claim I'm speaking in absolutes when I clearly stated being within observational limits, which NO ONE isn't. There are no absolutes with observation.anywhere. But somehow there ARE absolutes without it? Not being able to detect a change indicates no pro

CS>CASH. I am just passing this on

This advice hasn't changed for at least the past 6 months, and probably much longer, except that it is now more urgent. Faith G. Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:31 AM Subject: Weiss Research's Emergency Q&A - Transcript Money and Markets Monday, October 20, 2008

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:09:32 -0400 "Starshar" wrote: > > Anyway, thanks for pointing out my misstatements. I will be more > > careful about that in the future. Not sure if you read the whole > > discussion though, as there was a lot of email I never got the last > > couple of days and I have no w

Re: CS>Measuring IS Guessing

At 12:54 PM 10/18/2008 -0400, you wrote: >> >> One Degree or 10, is not worth a nickle for arriving at the ppm of CS. That's very silly. CS is a physical substance, and there are known methods which are quite precise. >> >>And a Chemist cannot usually operate the huge combination of >

Re: CS>Conscious vs the Unconscious

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Re: CS>blue moons revisited

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp Interesting! Your Type is INTJ Strength of the preferences % Introverted 67 Intuitive 50 Thinking 62 Judging 1 INTJ

Re: CS>Anecdotal versus laboratory testing methods

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:29:47 +0100 Dee wrote: > I had a thought about this. Didn't the latter come about because it > became somewhat 'undesirable' to test things actually on people? In > the early days when things like bella donna and arsenic were used, > they must have tested the doses on pe

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

Wow... now we are crazy, irresponsible, loonies because we believe in CS?!?! Proof or no proof, WHO CARES... WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? I mean, geez... you're getting results from CS so I'd assume that you have gotten "proof" as to what's in the CS you are taking? If so, could you kindly

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

M. G. Devour wrote: Next, if you leave the lid off you no longer have a closed system. Distilled water (and your CS), will absorb carbon dioxide from the air and form (I think it is...) carbolic acid. Carbonic acid. Then the ionic silver reacts with that and produces silver carbonate. If

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:49:16 -5 "M. G. Devour" wrote: > I wrote: > > > Next, if you leave the lid off you no longer have a closed system. > > > Distilled water (and your CS), will absorb carbon dioxide from > > > the air and form (I think it is...) carbolic acid. > > Indi replies: > > Yes well,

CS>Older CS

Hey Faith, I have used my homemade CS I had stored for 4+ years and it has worked as well as my freshly made CS. I do this once in a while to try to see how long the effectiveness lasts, and to rotate my stock so to speak. For what it's worth, my old stuff worked as well as the fresh did for

CS>CS "DATA"

Re: CS>blue moons revisited From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Re: CS>blue moons revisited Ode provided his information and test methodology and I think that is sufficient for one to understand and evaluate the data.

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

LOL and welcome to the loony bin!!! Ruth From: Indi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: CS>blue moons revisited Maybe part of my discomfort lies in the fact that I've become one of the people I used to poke fun at, LOL. Cheers, i

Re: CS>Older CS

Hi Ruth. Yes, your message helps a lot. I was beginning to worry, not that I've had any CS around for 4 years, nor even 1 year. Thanks a lot for your input.These discussions are good, and I believe, necessary. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Ruth Bertella" To: Sent: Mo

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:39:24 -0500 "Ruth Bertella" wrote: > Wow... now we are crazy, irresponsible, loonies because we believe > in CS?!?! Proof or no proof, WHO CARES... WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT > MAKE? > WHY ALL THE CAPS, LOL? Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one cares about the

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

> One thing at a time. > > You have claimed that sunlight turns silver ions into particles after the > process is complete. No, I never said that at all. I mentioned getting rid of ions by allowing solution to sit in the sun. ## THERE..you just said it...again. I also never claimed to ha

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

PPM and color..one of those theories taken as gospel that holds no water. Particle size and colorincomplete. Not this or that, but this and that. ode At 07:56 AM 10/19/2008 +1030, you wrote: Hi there Faith, I have both an EC/TDS blah blah meter and a, 'supposedly', ppm meter. The

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:46:30 -0400 Marshall Dudley wrote: > Carbonic acid. Then the ionic silver reacts with that and produces > silver carbonate. If there happens to be a lightning storm around, > then there will be oxides of nitrogen in the air that get absorbed as > well, producing silver

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

Sorry for the caps if it was offensive to anyone. This IS a community of caring individuals otherwise we wouldn't be privy to the vast knowledge and "testing" from several individuals on this list. The "intellects" (and us "not-so-intellects") of this list DO care very much about the well-bein

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

indi wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:46:30 -0400 Marshall Dudley wrote: Carbonic acid. Then the ionic silver reacts with that and produces silver carbonate. If there happens to be a lightning storm around, then there will be oxides of nitrogen in the air that get absorbed as well, produci

RE: CS>blue moons revisited

Hey Steve, I understood that... Dan ;-)) From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>blue moons revisited

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:59:14 -0500 "Ruth Bertella" wrote: > > Sorry for the caps if it was offensive to anyone. > No, not offensive. It did make me laugh, though. :) > This IS a > community of caring individuals otherwise we wouldn't be privy to the > vast knowledge and "testing" from several i

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:06:47 -0400 Marshall Dudley wrote: > > Any arcing, whether from the HVAC or from lightning, will product > nitrous oxide and nitric oxide. The amounts in air are minute from > lightning, but can be quite high concentration if produced in arcing > with HVAC method. T

Re: CS>Anecdotal versus laboratory testing methods

Yes this corruption was highlighted when the tobacco industries (who funded the trials) told us all that tobacco was actually *good* for us! dee indi wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:29:47 +0100 Dee wrote: In fact, your question is surely more relevant to most of us. Unfortunately,

CS>Lab test, age, etc.

Good post, Dee. I did my own 'unscientific' test. As a newbie, I read all of the stuff about storage, colored glass, storing in a cupboard out of light, etc. I put some CS from one of my first batches in a small, clear, glass jar w/a metal lid and set it in a sunny window. It was there fo

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:11:33 -0500 "Ruth Bertella" wrote: Thanks, Ruth. :) > LOL and welcome to the loony bin!!! > > Ruth > > From: Indi > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: CS>blue moons revisited > > > > > Maybe part of my di

Re: CS>Lab test, age, etc.

thanks Paula. As far as I'm concerned, I have used CS for a couple of years now and have introduced many people to it. We all have had spectacular results. I have used it on my dogs too and my friends dogs, and animals can't be fooled into thinking they are well when they aren't. This to me

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

Evening Neville, I have been out of town for 3 days, and you are getting ahead. At 11:54 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote: >> One Degree or 10, is not worth a nickle for arriving at the ppm of CS. That's very silly. CS is a physical substance, and there are known methods which are quite precis

CS>blue moon Types, ??

Evening Steve, At 12:21 PM 10/18/2008, you wrote: Interesting message and almost funny. I apologize iin advance for getting in this issue but are you familiar with the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MTBI)? While you cannot determine someones personality type from postings you can get some indi

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:13:43 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wrote: Howdy Wayne, > >Not one Scientist or chemist or CS maker can measure the > ppm, with a TWO BIT > >EC Meter. ( Even the instrument manufactures tell you that, > .. no ppm meter exists ) > >Unless, they have many do

Re: CS>blue moon Types, ??

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:27:50 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wrote: > >I know which "Rooster can pull a Wagon, Before I hitch him up". > I wish I could get a rooster to pull a wagon, that would be a lot cheaper than putting gas in my tractor! indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussi

Re: CS>Measuring IS Guessing

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:59 -0400 Ode Coyote wrote: > >If all you have is silver, water and it's various combinations, > That's rather large "if", and you keep choosing to ignore it. If one proceeds to build a mountain of logic upon a fragile premise one can create quite a labyrinth in whi

Re: CS>Measuring IS Guessing

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:15:00 -0400 indi wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:59 -0400 > Ode Coyote wrote: > > > > >If all you have is silver, water and it's various combinations, > > > > That's rather large "if", and you keep choosing to ignore it. If one > proceeds to build a mountain of l

RE: CS>blue moon Types, ??

Wayne, I got close on one out of two. Hate to risk that record but ESTP for you? Why funny? It was clear to me that Indi and Ode have strong but different personalities. Ode is a strong intuitive and Indi needs hard facts. Indi will never be satisfied with intuitive reasoning and Ode sees no need f

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

- Original Message - From: "indi" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:56 AM Subject: Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing Quote: [If CS becomes popular enough, we will see Big Pharma "improving" on it with "proprietary" manufacturing processes and lots of statistics claiming to be "data

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

Hi there Wayne, hope you enjoyed your 3 day fishing trip Hey, I hope there are two Nevilles here, either that or you're under the mistaken belief I am posting these quotes you keep assigning to me. I can get into enough trouble on my own thanks very much, without the assistance of others!

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:33:08 +1030 "Neville" wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "indi" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:56 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing > > > Quote: > [If CS becomes popular enough, we will see Big Pharma "improving" on > it with "propriet

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

Yeah well I got to be honest with you Ode, I've listened and read a lot from many sources so from a personal perspective I've needed to put all that together with what I have experienced myself. Precision doesn't seem to be an option for me with CS, 'guides' and 'ranges' tend to satisfy me for

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

Evening Neville, At 04:18 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote: Hey, I hope there are two Nevilles here, either that or you're under the mistaken belief I am posting these quotes you keep assigning to me. I can get into enough trouble on my own thanks very much, without the assistance of others! Th

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

- Original Message - From: "indi" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:55 AM Subject: Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:33:08 +1030 "Neville" wrote: - Original Message - From: "indi" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:56 AM Subject: Re: CS>Meas

Re: CS>Conscious vs the Unconscious

Hmmm... All prayers are answered; doubt cancels prayer; worry is prayer for things you don't want. - Don Hamerling Chuck What is the definition of endless love? Stevie Wonder & Ray Charles playing tennis! On 10/20/2008

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

- Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing Evening Neville, At 04:18 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote: Hey, I hope there are two Nevilles here, either that or you're under the mistaken belief I am posting th

Re: CS>Measuring or Guessing

Hmmm... Is indi in reality Mike Monet? Sounds like him. Remember? Chuck de ja fu - The feeling that somewhere, somehow you've been hit in the head like this before. On 10/20/2008 12:39:02 PM, indi (indi.sha...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:39:

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

One of the high voltage methods used involved an arc being drawn just above the water surface by one of the electrodes. This was found to result in nitric acid being formed. Not really a good thing to ingest regularly. Good design alleviated this. One way was to use a CO2 blanket in the container.

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

I think you may still misunderstand me Dee. My comments were in reference to the 'to and fro' discussion, or 'argument' if one wishes to view it that way, between indi and ode. Hope this has cleared it up. N. - Original Message - From: "Dee" To: Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:4

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

Thanks. I imagine it'd be hard to ingest much of that without knowing something wasn't quite right. Anyway, I am careful to avoid arcing. BTW, I am a woman named Indulekha Sharpe, not some guy named Mike Monet. Cheers, indi On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:02:38 -0400 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > One

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

Cool, interesting first name. For all I know, Mike's a female too. You would have liked discussions with him/her. Chuck Peace through superior firepower On 10/20/2008 7:36:29 PM, indi (indi.sha...@gmail.com) wrote: > > BTW, I am a woman named Indulekha

Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards of proof...

Well and good! Mike Monet was an interesting and knowledgeable electrical engineer, with an enquiring mind and good math skills, was sometimes upset when people didn't see it his way (the ONLY way). You are pushing for the opposite, in that you recognize humans, and the conditions in/by which th