<<<>
I followed Adelle Davis' health advice and gave my youngest daughter cod
liver oil from birth. It did make her very healthy: few infections. A few
years down the line, she started having problems with nose bleeds, mainly
in the winter. After several year
> Sent: 21 July 2003 23:13
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
>
> Hi, Guys, I have good news!
> No congestive heart failure after all! All my tests are normal.
> Apparently it is a combination of this high heat and too much sa
> Christiane
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> From: "Jonathan B. Britten"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
> > One mechanism of fish oil is antiviral/bacterial, due to the effects of
>
Dear Jonathan,
<>
I've seen doses as high as 20 grams a day. EPA is usually 180 mg. per
gram and DHA is usually 120 mg. per gram.
Regards,
Catherine
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I`m gonna try Bob!
I`m tired of carrying around a whole nother person inside my skin!!!
First off, there goes the soda pop.
I`m going to hit the swimming pool for a swim, too...
Marshalee
Marshalee
GET THE DANG WEIGHT OFF !!
I just lost 12 pounds without really trying. Abo
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:13:06 -0600, mamapug wrote:
>No congestive heart failure after all! All my tests are normal.
That's got to be the big relief of the year.
Congrats.
Chuck
Everyday I beat my own previous record for
number of conse
Marshalee
GET THE DANG WEIGHT OFF !!
I just lost 12 pounds without really trying. About 2 inches off my 86 year
old belly.
It feels good just to bend over without grunting.
Best of Luck
Bob [UFOS]
;
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> One mechanism of fish oil is antiviral/bacterial, due to the effects of
> DHA/EPA, as reported by Y. Omura M.D.EPA/DHA, by killing the
> pathogens that scar the arteries and allow fat
But my Maine Taters are better!!! :)
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To:
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> No potatoes? No spuds Waaa! I`m from IDAHO
> :o(
> Marshalee
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One mechanism of fish oil is antiviral/bacterial, due to the effects of
DHA/EPA, as reported by Y. Omura M.D.EPA/DHA, by killing the
pathogens that scar the arteries and allow fatty stuff to build up,
helps to keep the blood flowing well.
I was not aware of the blood-thinning properties .
Wonderful news for you! Congratulations!
Now is the chance for you to change your habits and really get into good
shape. Good luck! By the way, Rob Fagin's book, Natural Normonal
Enhancement, might be helpful to you. You could still enjoy the cakes
and pies and spuds and such, but only
Hi, Guys, I have good news!
No congestive heart failure after all! All my tests are normal.
Apparently it is a combination of this high heat and too much salt intake
that was making me puff up.
(I`m still going to take the CoQ 10, it can`t hurt.)
I do have to lose weight, as I`m up to 290 now. Yike
This is in response to what to replace coumadin with to thin the blood. My
understanding is that is it very risky to stop coumadin, and when you wean
off of it, it is critical to have your numbers monitored closely.
Keeping that in mind I have some input about a possible solution. I have
been o
intake after eating. Will give insight in to food chouse and amount. What
works for you.
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To:
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
> > Potatoes and beans are out for the
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:25:02 -0400, Orpha Yoder wrote:
>I am on another health group that had a discussion of high carb food
>including potatoes. Someone on the group who has cut out carbs for
>the most part said that if you eat potatoes with the skin on, then the
>fiber from the potato skin abs
I've heard that most of the nutrition in a potato is in the skin.
Jim
Orpha Yoder wrote:
I am on another health group that had a discussion of high carb food
including potatoes. Someone on the group who has cut out carbs for
the most part said that if you eat potatoes with the skin on, then th
ct: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
> > Potatoes and beans are out for the most part.
> > Regards,
> > Catherine
>
> No potatoes? No spuds Waaa! I`m from IDAHO
> :o(
> Marshalee
>
>
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> Potatoes and beans are out for the most part.
> Regards,
> Catherine
No potatoes? No spuds Waaa! I`m from IDAHO
:o(
Marshalee
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Oops - forgot to include the URL
www.paleodiet.com
Catherine
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Dear Shirley,
You said:
<< Are potatoes and beans included in the carbo list?>>
Potatoes and beans are out for the most part.
Here is a link to a collection of websites that explain
various aspects of a paleo diet.
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I am type 2 diabetic. The way I test for carbs is I check my blood sugar
before I eat the food in question, then wait half an hour, then check the
blood sugar again. If the food kicks my blood sugar above 150 then I
declare it to be a carb and don't eat it again. I have tested many
different fo
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:51:06 -0700 (PDT), shirley holder
wrote:
>Catherine, Are potatoes and beans included in the carbo list?
>Thanks for info
>shirley
Might as well consider potatoes as sugar lumps.
All the reports from beans aren't in yet.
Catherine, Are potatoes and beans included in the carbo list?
Thanks for info
shirley
C Creel wrote:
Dear Marian,
You said:
>
** Is it Type I or Type II? The former needs pharmaceutical
intervention. The latter, if not too many years into it can be reversed by
altering the diet to a paleo-t
O supplier
there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
From: Tad Winiecki
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
CC: marv...@charter.net
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:45:44 -0700
<<<<&l
NATTO-K comes from soybeans.The japanese developed it.Its suppose to
prevent blood clots etc.
Read thu several websites to get a good idea of it.
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To:
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart fail
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:35:17 -0700, Tad Winiecki wrote:
> Would the thinning caused by eating more garlic, Vitamin E, etc. have
>the same effect as taking Coumadin so one could substitute the natural
>substances, or is there any difference in the action?
>
>Nancy
Well, I do know that E's blood
<<<>>
Vitamin K causes clotting, not thinning of the blood, so it would be an
antagonist to Coumadin. But dark leafy green vegetables contain lots of
folic acid which is very heart-healthy, so the doctors cut the heart
patients off from the foods that would help them. Vitamin E and garli
<<>>>
Marv- My brother has the same surgery and problem. His aorta collapsed and
fortunately he had CPR to revive him. Before his surgery I tried to check
into chelation therapy, which I think could have corrected the calcified
valve if done soon enough, but
ct: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> Hi, Silverlisters, Marshalee here.
> I`m being tested for congestive heart failure right now at the BYU health
> center, as I have been swelling up in feet, legs, and hands recently. I
put
> on 15 pounds in 3 weeks!
> The doc gav
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:55:02 +, Jack Dayton wrote:
>> Swanson sale priced 30mgx60gelcaps/1000= 1.8 grams
>> $12/1.8 gr=$6.67 per gram
>>
>> Puritan Pride sale 200mg X 60 caps X 3bottles= 30 grams
>> $105.35/30 grams = $3.51/ gram
>>
>> Doesn't even come close!
>>
>> Besides that, Swanson d
cking...@nycap.rr.com7/18/03 7:20 PM
> Hmmm, thanks to Mike I've started doing the math on claims.
>
> Swanson sale priced 30mgx60gelcaps/1000= 1.8 grams
> $12/1.8 gr=$6.67 per gram
>
> Puritan Pride sale 200mg X 60 caps X 3bottles= 30 grams
> $105.35/30 grams = $3.51/ gram
>
> Doesn't even com
Theres something from soybeans that a japanese researcher developed thats
suppose to work real good.
when I dig it up again I will post the name of it
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From: "Marv Hacker"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart fail
Marv Hacker 7/18/03 2:42 PM
> Better yet, is there a way to eliminate the fear
>of clotting at the artificial valve, yet not
> artificially regulate blood viscosity?
***
I would guess that you are asking too
much there, but a Protime test will
help to know what changes
Dear Jack,
Thank you for the info re: PP and www.swansonvitamins.com .
Regards,
Catherine
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> Sent: 18 July 2003 20:21
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> Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
>
> Hmmm, thanks to Mike I've started doing the math on claims.
>
> Swanson sale priced 30mgx60gelcaps/1000= 1.8 grams
> $12/1.8
Thanks Chuck will look it up promptly.
be well
Marian
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Hmmm, thanks to Mike I've started doing the math on claims.
Swanson sale priced 30mgx60gelcaps/1000= 1.8 grams
$12/1.8 gr=$6.67 per gram
Puritan Pride sale 200mg X 60 caps X 3bottles= 30 grams
$105.35/30 grams = $3.51/ gram
Doesn't even come close!
Besides that, Swanson doesn't seem to carry hi
C Creel 7/17/03 11:40 PM
> I'm with Chuck.
>
>
> http://www.puritan.com/
> Buy 1 get 2 free
>
> 200 mg. 30 Softgels 002091 $56.95
**
Catherine, I can't agree with your choice of suppliers for 2 reasons
1. Puritans Pride started buying up a lot of smaller competitors
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:07:11 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote:
>Actually I think the problem is that they cause thinning also, and the blood
>gets
>too thin. Doctors are afraid of anything that helps you if it is not made by
>the
>pharms, so what nature provides is cut back in favor of the medicine
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> Plenty of blood thinners around.
> Aspirin (natural form would be willow bark) comes to mind first.
> Vitamin E (I take 2000 units/day).
>
> After a couple years on coumadin, the stories of people I know got to me. I
> told
> my cardiologist what he could do with th
Dr Bernstein became a Dr to cure himself of diabetes.
His book is gold for anyone interested in healthy living.
Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution
by Richard K. Bernstein
Chuck
The Dark Ages was caused by the Y1K problem.
On Fri, 18
Plenty of blood thinners around.
Aspirin (natural form would be willow bark) comes to mind first.
Vitamin E (I take 2000 units/day).
After a couple years on coumadin, the stories of people I know got to me. I told
my cardiologist what he could do with the coumidin, but hey, that's just me.
The fu
Marv
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
Dear Marian,
You said:
<>
** Is it Type I or Type II? The former needs pharmaceutical
intervention. The latter, if not to
Catherine,
I've been a type ll diabetic for the last eight years...I'm very open to
any and all that might help. I've got peripheral neuropathy, recently the
shoulder joints have suffered greatly, don't know if it's trauma(lifting Mother
in the last three weeks of her life), or dry joint I
Insulin and Testosterone. I can think of no alt med to replace these.
Hugh
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7, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> Well, Jeanette, at Target, they wanted 12 bucks for 30 100 mg capsules. If
> my rotten math is correct, isn`t that is an equal amount of Co Q 10, for 3
> bucks less? What do you think?
> Marshalee
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Dear Marian,
You said:
<>
** Is it Type I or Type II? The former needs pharmaceutical
intervention. The latter, if not too many years into it can be reversed by
altering the diet to a paleo-type dirt (carbs are eaten in the form of
vegetables only).
Regards,
Catherine
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The drugs I feel I need are for my diabetes, if anyone has alternatives that
will help I'd love to know.
thankyou, be well
Marian
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TJ said:
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Wow! It's like looking in the mirror!
Catherine
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d, CMO supplier
there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
From: "ronwilson"
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:12:10 -0700
Bought 75 softgels 150 mg at costcos a while back for around $
ot;
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> I'm with Chuck.
>
>
> http://www.puritan.com/
> Buy 1 get 2 free
>
> 200 mg. 30 Softgels 002091 $56.95
>
>
http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.asp?xs=CAE3E4D87E3
I'm with Chuck.
http://www.puritan.com/
Buy 1 get 2 free
200 mg. 30 Softgels 002091 $56.95
http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.asp?xs=CAE3E4D87E3B4A97BA8AC2EA91724B5D&PID=984&np=0
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The health coop is a good thing.
The Pauling formula is a good thing.
I usually get MY CoQ10 at http://www.puritan.com/
because they often have 2fers and 3fers sales.
Chuck
I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16
Well, Jeanette, at Target, they wanted 12 bucks for 30 100 mg capsules. If
my rotten math is correct, isn`t that is an equal amount of Co Q 10, for 3
bucks less? What do you think?
Marshalee
> Marshlee,
> Regarding price, the BEST source of CoQ10 is here; a high quality 60 50mg
> softgel capsule
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:56:59 -0600, mamapug wrote:
>What does Lysine do??
Start here with good ol' Linus Pauling,
http://www.paulingtherapy.com/
Chuck
You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you odd
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Marshlee,
Regarding price, the BEST source of CoQ10 is here; a high quality 60 50mg
softgel capsules for $14.93!
http://www.ourhealthcoop.com/products.htm
There are also great prices for Vit. E, fish oil and also a heart support
formula called "Heart Plus" based on Linus Pauling's formula. My CH
Bought 75 softgels 150 mg at costcos a while back for around $26 dollars.
The price was so good i stocked up. A reporter doing research on drug prices
in Detroit found they have some of the best prices anyware. The report was
some time ago so i checked on this url and it still worked. Was going to
Dear Chuck, and everyone else,
Thanks for all the help, I appreciate the input.
I went to Target this morning, and the CoQ10 they had there was 12 bucks for
30 100 mg capsules. OUCH!
I`ll check Wallyworld, they are usually more reasonable there.
Then I went to the LDS Bishop`s Storehouse to work fo
Ole Bob said:
<>
** Something to be aware of is that though some pharmaceutical drugs may
be necessary for some people virtually all of them cause nutrient
deficiencies. The nutrient deficiencies caused by Lasix are:
calcium
magnesium
potassium
sodium
Vit B1
Vit B6
Vit C
zinc
Regards,
Ca
CoQ10 for CHF
When the heart sustains injury that weakens its pumping ability congestive
heart failure can develop. Fluid builds up in the lungs and lower
extremities, the heart enlarges, and many symptoms develop, including severe
fatigue, difficulty breathing while lying down, and altered brai
chewed up dry capsusles
with fish oil (maybe flax oil would taste better)... hey, it will give you
something to do.
Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
From: ronwilson
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:36:13
Marshalee
Had weeks to live by my heart doc. Found report about Q 10, W
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:26:04 +0100, J & S Campbell
wrote:
>Hi there, sorry to hear of your troubles. I seem to remember reading of Co
>enzyme Q as being very good for CHF I will see if I can find the reference
>perhaps someone else has info on CoQ and CHF?
>Every best wish,
>Sheila
Yeah, definit
Hi Marshalee;
Increasing HGH human growth hormone has been proven to increase cardiac
output even after one has congestive failure or after one has had a heart
attack. It does that by speeding repair to match that of a 22-year old
and improving muscle tone.
The research is on a friend's site:
Williams
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:16 PM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> Hi, Silverlisters, Marshalee here.
> I`m being tested for congestive heart failure right now at the BYU health
Marshalee,
I have been diagnose with the same thing. I take everyday a generic form of
LASIX which is called FUROSEMIDE. It causes no pain and really get rid of the
water.
Did they give you a NITRO patch to wear everyday, or magnesuiun, or a COMBIVENT
nebulizer. CS will not open the broncial tube
r-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
>
> Hi, Silverlisters, Marshalee here.
> I`m being tested for congestive heart failure right now at the BYU health
> center, as I have been swelling up in feet, legs, and hands
> recently. I put
>
improved in steady manner, 3 months to near normal. That 2
> 1/2 years ago. Do net search.
> - Original Message -
> From: "mamapug"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:16 PM
> Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
> > Hi, Sil
: "mamapug"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> Hi, Silverlisters, Marshalee here.
> I`m being tested for congestive heart failure right now at the BYU health
> center, as I have been swelling up in feet, legs, and
My chelation Doctor told me to take 100mg COQ10 twice a day. Call the
Atkins center for a Doctor that does chelation near you...
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Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> H
ro.net]
> Sent: 17 July 2003 04:16
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
>
>
> Hi, Silverlisters, Marshalee here.
> I`m being tested for congestive heart failure right now at the BYU health
> center, as I have been swelling up in fe
may be able to get you a copy of the newsletter that had her story.
Best wishes,
Orpha
www.v4l.com/ProsperandbeinHealth
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From: "mamapug"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS> congestive heart failure questions
> Hi, Silverli
Hi, Silverlisters, Marshalee here.
I`m being tested for congestive heart failure right now at the BYU health
center, as I have been swelling up in feet, legs, and hands recently. I put
on 15 pounds in 3 weeks!
The doc gave me a mild diuretic. I have taken it only twice, the first I
took a week ago.
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