[SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Gerard Blacklock
Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. I work for a small engineering firm as a design engineer, i also have the task of being the the

[SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread Simon
This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to investigate a possible cause: bad sectors [2], in which I managed to kill 30GB of useful data. The crashes are still occuring, and *ONLY* in Linux.

Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Ken Foskey
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 22:00, Gerard Blacklock wrote: > I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i > am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may > be able to provide some insight on a problem. The is called document management and work f

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Simon wrote: >This may seem crazy but my adventures this month just seems so. I replaced >my motherboard [1] to which it decided to crash regularly. Thus I went to Have you run memtest to see if it's not bad RAM causing the problems? www.memtest86.com -- [EMAIL PROT

Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Phil Scarratt
Gerard Blacklock wrote: Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct list to post to, however i am sure there is a large number of IT professionals on this list who may be able to provide some insight on a problem. I work for a small engineering firm as a design engineer, i also have t

Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Gerard Blacklock
I am not sure about the on-topic'ness of the thread, but will put in my 2c worth anyway. After open-source solutions exist for this sort of thing. There's document management systems out there that could handle this sort of thing - although don't know of any off the top of my head. You must ha

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread Richard Neal
I cant see a PSU deciding to smoke having to much relevance to the OS used to be honest...basically it just shouldn't smoke if its OK. To be honest I smell a rat here it could be Linux is activating something on the motherboard thats faulty that win2000 isn't thus stuffing up your PSU... without a

Re: [SLUG] linux on mac

2004-03-11 Thread TongMaster
On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 13:16, Philip Gomes wrote: > Hiya, I'm looking for someone called the "tongmaster". Apparently he's > familiar with linux on Mac setups. I've got a G3/400/6 Gig bronze > powerbook. I also purchased a Yellow Dog to help me get started but > need help on the install etc. Tha

Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22

2004-03-11 Thread stuartc
How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event? Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is! Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and then click the "Map of Event Location" link. A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street from anywhere in

Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22

2004-03-11 Thread Slug
Having read Stuart's description, I wanted to see this amazing mapping technology. It's broken on my machine. I get a vertical, crooked red line that looks like York St. An outline of the harbour and a marker for the hotel. That's it. Not really spectacular but probably a bug! Moz 1.4. jvm install

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread Guy Ellis
Hi, I've had a similar problem. I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.24 and now when I use my toaster there is a very strong acrid smell + smoke. I took the toaster back for repair and the guy said it's definitely a software problem and as such not covered under warranty. I now have to cook my toast on

Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Deigan
quote("Ken Foskey"); >A simple solution may be storing it in CVS. The engineer then simply or Arch. ;-) - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

[SLUG] BSD Sockets

2004-03-11 Thread Bruce Badger
Is there a definitive source of information on BSD sockets? e.g. is there an RFC? Many thanks, Bruce -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mail

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
h I have the complete opposite. On one machine it would spazmodically crash on me in windows leaving a black screen. I hold down the power button for several seconds to reboot the machine. With Mandrake 8.0 I was experienced extended uptime and I could still play alot of the games I wanted, un

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread Tony Green
> > h I have the complete opposite. On one machine it would > spazmodically crash on me in windows leaving a black screen. I hold > down the power button for > several seconds to reboot the machine. With Mandrake 8.0 I was > experienced extended uptime and I could still play alot of the games

[SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Lemon
Hi, I have run into a problem in upgrading my Linux systems. I bought a copy of RedHat Enterprise 3 WS in the USA a couple of months ago, thinking that it was about time to retire my v7.2 system. Unfortunately, when I installed it on a Dell Dimension that has been working perfectly with v7.2 fo

Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
Danger! Danger! Will Robinson another engineering dude maintaining I.T whilst completing their normal job description ;-) I have several engineering clients like this and it has been fun cleaning up a huge mess. I think you will get very vague views on what you can do in getting a solution as IMH

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
Dunno about the PSU, I will look tonight. CPU AMD 1200 128 MB of RAM MSI Mother board (intergrated sound) 3Com NIC NVIDIA GeForce MX4 Leadtek TV capture card Can't remember everything in my system I will have a look at the brand of PSU and get back to you. I have been looking at a few opterons t

Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
Jim, I have installed RH ES3 on a *ell Optiplex GX260 under vmware it seems to work nicely. I don't know if it was the host system that finds everything and transfers it to the virtual machine usb flash drives worked each time you plugged one in. The only problem is that the Kernel delays the boo

[SLUG] Re: Mozilla/Firebird issue with stgeorge.com.au

2004-03-11 Thread Kanwar Plaha
Hi! A BIG thanks to all who replied and helped out. I can now access my stgeorge account through Mozilla/Firebird. --Kanwar Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info an

Re: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Peter Tyler
Gerard, Another product probably worth looking at is "Team Centre" from EDS... Yes it is more expensive than CVS, but it is designed for the job you are trying to do. Cheers Peter. Phil Scarratt wrote: Gerard Blacklock wrote: Slug, I am not sure whether this may be the correct l

Re: [SLUG] BSD Sockets

2004-03-11 Thread Carl G Lewis
The BSD sockets API has become part of the IEEE Posix standards. The specific part is IEEE Std 1003.1g, "Protocol Independent Interfaces." See http://www.pasc.org/. All this info from page 25 of W Richard Steven's "Unix Network Programming", which is IMHO "the definitive source of information

Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Lake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and > then click the "Map of Event Location" link. > A detailed, useful, accurate map of how to get to Elizabeth Street > from anywhere in the Sydney CBD will appear. You'll be amazed! Yeah click, see a useless, zero detailed

RE: [SLUG] Small Business File/Job Management Solution?

2004-03-11 Thread Rowling, Jill
Hi Gerard, That sounds similar to something my employer had pre-1999. Then we changed it gradually. The current system uses a variety of CAD software on multiple OS's (optimised according to needs). AutoCAD only works on Windows, for example, so the user has to use Windows. I-Deas 3D runs on sever

Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat

2004-03-11 Thread Martin C. Messer
Jim Lemon wrote: Hi, I have run into a problem in upgrading my Linux systems. I bought a copy of RedHat Enterprise 3 WS in the USA a couple of months ago, thinking that it was about time to retire my v7.2 system. Unfortunately, when I installed it on a Dell Dimension that has been working perfe

Re: [SLUG] Debian RC Bug Squish / Code Fest

2004-03-11 Thread Craige McWhirter
Just a reminder that it's on tomorrow. See you there and head here for more the latest updates: http://debian.slug.org.au/ On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 02:15, Craige McWhirter wrote: > When: > Saturday, March 13, 10:00am - 6:00pm > Where: > Sydney Uni > > To do our bit to bring

Re: [SLUG] Re: Mozilla/Firebird issue with stgeorge.com.au

2004-03-11 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004, Kanwar Plaha wrote: > A BIG thanks to all who replied and helped out. I can now access my > stgeorge account through Mozilla/Firebird. I'd suggest that everyone who is using the "pretend to be Mozilla for Windows" workaround contact St George and inform them of this: it might

Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat

2004-03-11 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Jim Lemon wrote: > Hi, > > I have run into a problem in upgrading my Linux systems. I bought a copy of > RedHat Enterprise 3 WS in the USA a couple of months ago, thinking that it > was about time to retire my v7.2 system. Unfortunately, when I installed it > on a Dell Dimensi

Re: [SLUG] Seeking advice on RedHat

2004-03-11 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The GUI works I don't use KDE, but Gnome works fine. I didn't see KDE when > I built a RHES3 on a ML370, I don't think I saw a mention of KDE at all. Its available both during the install (if you do a custom install) and afterwards using the Add/Remo

[SLUG] March DebSIG

2004-03-11 Thread Craige McWhirter
When: Wednesday, March 17, 7:00pm - 8:00pm Where: James Squire Brewery This month, Angus Lees will be dissecting defoma, along with the usual free-form discussions / debates that will precede and follow his talk. Food, drink and internet access are available and

Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22

2004-03-11 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:57:41AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event? > Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is! > > Visit http://www.redhat.com/worldtour/sydney and > then click the "Map of Event Loca

[SLUG] rights of root from su

2004-03-11 Thread Geoffrey Cowling
sorry for such an elementary Q... :-( I thought you could do ANYTHING as root.. Debian Woody -- su to root to install e.g. OO.o, error message: glibc version: 2.2.5 Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X serv

[SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread Sean Cohen
Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
which did you use? su or su - su will give you root priviliges with your path su - will give you root with root's paths. sorry for such an elementary Q... :-( I thought you could do ANYTHING as root.. Debian Woody -- su to root to install e.g. OO.o, error message: glibc version: 2.2.5 Xlib

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. Then I was thought I might sound a little too eager. :) I will begin to download it to night but the prob is that I'm not in the surry hill district. Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) an

Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su

2004-03-11 Thread mlh
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 02:30:12PM +1100, Geoffrey Cowling wrote: > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0 > > so I have to logout as user and login as root on X11... > > why? Because of X author

Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su

2004-03-11 Thread Peter Hardy
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 02:30:12PM +1100, Geoffrey Cowling wrote: > > sorry for such an elementary Q... :-( > > I thought you could do ANYTHING as root.. > > Debian Woody -- su to root to install e.g. OO.o, error message: > > glibc version: 2.2.5 > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server >

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread Sean Cohen
Tell me about it. I'm on dialup, and I've seriously been considering getting broadband. $30/month isn't bad at all, Exetel even gives you unlimited off-peak downloads.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. Then I was thought I might sound

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
Well my broadband is in campbelltown and i am stuck in canberra without real internet connection after hours :( Tell me about it. I'm on dialup, and I've seriously been considering getting broadband. $30/month isn't bad at all, Exetel even gives you unlimited off-peak downloads.. [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [SLUG] Red Hat world tour coming to Sydney March 22

2004-03-11 Thread Eddie F
Try here: http://www.whereis.com.au From: Jobst Schmalenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:57:41AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > How do we get to the RedHat World Tour Sydney event? > Simply check out the map of where the Sheraton on the Park is! > > Visit

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread Michae Fox
> > I was going to ask that very question about Mandrake10 yesterday. > Then I was thought I might sound a little too eager. :) > I will begin to download it to night but the prob is that I'm not in the > surry hill district. Who currently has updated mirrors? If any isps in NSW on pipenetworks pe

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Fox
> Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / > Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD1.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD2.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD3.i586.iso Is that it? I am guessing it's a pre-release but not the offical

Re: [SLUG] rights of root from su

2004-03-11 Thread Dave Airlie
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0 > > so I have to logout as user and login as root on X11... > > why? this works on RH/Fedora but it is a bit of a nasty hack :-), for Debian after su'ing d

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Fox
>> Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / >> Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Mandrake/iso/ 646500352 Jan 7 16:55 MandrakeMove-i586.iso 728651776 Mar 4 13:40 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso 7287

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread Sean Cohen
Michael Fox wrote: Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD2.i586.iso Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD3.i586.iso A

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Sean Cohen
Michael Fox wrote: Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Mandrake/iso/ 646500352 Jan 7 16:55 MandrakeMove-i586.iso 728651776 Mar 4 13:40 Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Downlo

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread kevin . saenz
Michael, No their no the ones. We are after the official release iso's. > Anyone have a copy of Mandrake 10? I'm in the east (Surry Hills / > Redfern) and I'd be happy to drop by and pick it up. MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD1.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-CD2.i586.iso MandrakeLinux-10.0-rc1-

Re: [SLUG] call for votes: BSP talks

2004-03-11 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 20:30, Matthew Palmer wrote: > OK, I've gotten myself roped into doing some talks for the BSP next Saturday > (must remember to duck *then* dodge next time ). The problem is, there's > a lot of different stuff which *could* be useful, but there's only a limited > amount of ti

[SLUG] computers to give away

2004-03-11 Thread linley
first in gets them 1 x powermac 6200 1 x powermac 7200/20 1 x powertower pro 200 all working please call me -linley on 0409 831 404 localtion: Mascot -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Fox
> Yep, that's it. Any chance you could burn a copy?... Yes, I am happy to download these starting from tonight when I get home, and then burn them onto 3 discs. I can bring them to work on Monday, I work in North Sydney, so if you want to arrange to come over. Drop us a email over the weekend etc

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10?

2004-03-11 Thread James Gregory
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Michael, > > No their no the ones. We are after the official release iso's. You can get it from the primary mandrake mirror: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/iso/ James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - ht

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Deigan
quote("Michael Fox"); >And pacific is on pipe peering, so these are a free download for anyone >with a broadband isp in sydney who is peered with pipenetworks. Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) - Chris --

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Sean Cohen
Michael Fox wrote: Yep, that's it. Any chance you could burn a copy?... Yes, I am happy to download these starting from tonight when I get home, and then burn them onto 3 discs. I can bring them to work on Monday, I work in North Sydney, so if you want to arrange to come over. Drop us a emai

Re: [SLUG] computers to give away

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Deigan
quote("linley"); >first in gets them >1 x powermac 6200 >1 x powermac 7200/20 >1 x powertower pro 200 > >all working >please call me -linley on > 0409 831 404 >localtion: Mascot You may like to talk to the ComputerBank[1] guys about this as a worthy cause. Take a look at http://cbnsw.org.au/ [1]

re: [slug] new mobo now freezes

2004-03-11 Thread Nicholas Tomlin
Simon, did you put any heat sinking paste on the cpu/sink interface?? It helps immensely, goto dick smiths to get some and put it in if you havenĀ“t. Regards, Nicholas Tomlin. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/f

Re: [SLUG] linux cooking my PSU

2004-03-11 Thread David Kempe
Guy Ellis wrote: I plan to upgrade to 2.4.25, but before I do has anyone had problems with 2.4.25 and HWS? Can't say I have. but I did experience kernel joy to find that LFS is in SMBFS in 2.4.25 dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQ

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Fox
> Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE > network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) this is indeed true, I believe internode recently changed this and pipe data is now free. however, I am on neither isp so can't really be certain how true that is :) C

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread John McQuillen
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:12, Michael Fox wrote: > > Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE > > network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) > > this is indeed true, I believe internode recently changed this and pipe > data is now free. however, I am on nei

Re: [SLUG] Copies of MDK 10? Found :)

2004-03-11 Thread Sean Cohen
John McQuillen wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:12, Michael Fox wrote: Not all ISPs connected to PIPE actually offer free data from the PIPE network. For example Pacific Internet or Internode. :-) this is indeed true, I believe internode recently changed this and pipe data is now free. ho

[SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread Bill Bennett
It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was "Well, Linux is differently organised." Feeble, I know, but the enq

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread Richard Ames
Windows machines come configured as the initial user the system Administrator. Most users don't realize this and never change it - even though Microsoft tells you all about it in the help. When a virus / worm / trojan comes along it is analogous to having 'The fox in the chicken coop'. Any g

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Lake
Bill Bennett wrote: > It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. > > I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses > that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be > honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was > "Well, Linux is differently organi

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread Brad Kowalczyk
Bill Bennett wrote: It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was "Well, Linux is differently organised." Feeble

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread Brad Kowalczyk
Bill Bennett wrote: You're right. I have a feeling that it may be extinct now, but a Wenkel engine did not run on pistons. Bill Bennett. =+-> Brad Kowalczyk wrote: =+-> Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) Is it not (or similar to) Mazda's rotary engine? -- SLUG - Sydney Lin

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread mlh
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 05:43:10PM +1100, Michael Lake wrote: > Bill Bennett wrote: "Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread mlh
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 06:10:30PM +1100, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: > >=+-> Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) > Is it not (or similar to) Mazda's rotary engine? Same thing; it's a Wankel rotary engine. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subs

Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.

2004-03-11 Thread Grant Parnell
How about this one... It's like entering a house through the door: Windows OS has key locks, most virii use some variation of a lock picker. Unix/Linux OS have numeric key pads, a lock picker is completely useless, you have to use something else to break in. In both cases you can still stand in