In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James V.
Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I have been reading this thread with interest, waiting to see which
route you would follow in the US.
Might I suggest that you consider looking at the rules that are supplied
and actioned during BARCS competitions in the UK.
Ron wrote:
An immediate relaunch will not see him too far behind the others
and may even work to his benefit if the others have launched into sink.
That is simply part of the game we play.
We tend to allow any available winch to be used for a relaunch, not just
the pilots own personal one. If the
I am also needing 4-368 mounts, any help appreciated.
Marc
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At 08:17 AM 5/17/2005, Marc Gellart wrote:
I am also needing 4-368 mounts, any help appreciated.
Marc
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I bought a set of servo mounts from Ron at Specked Out Sailplanes in Canada
some time back. When the Fed-ex lady came to the door with my mounts, I had
to pay a $22.50 duty of some sort to get my mounts. Some one got some extra
cash for a border crossing deal. I contacted Ron and he was gonna try
I have forgotten who makes them.
I need to get 2..
any body know who, before I ask Don?
TIA
Jack
Jack Strother
Granger, IN
LSF V #117
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. When the Fed-ex lady came to the door with my mounts, I had
to pay a $22.50 duty of some sort to get my mounts. Some one got some
extra
cash for a border crossing deal.
I haven't been on the receiving side, but when I ship to Canada, I have to
use US Postal Service for that very reason.
If I
A weak link slows down the contest because it has to be replaced. If it
is the last ring you must put a new one on. If it is between the line
and chute you must get the chute. Limiting power doesn't slow the
contest down.
New winches aren't necessary. Resistors could be made of all thread or
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:35:36PM -0500, Steve Meyer wrote:
|Sound like StarWars started early out there and a phase pulse
|with resulting EMF wave fried the sensitive components.
I don't see how. If they're the power lines I'm thinking of (to your
right when you're facing away from
15 minute task times? Many rounds? Marc you big meanie! I only want to fly 7 minutesand a couple rounds. Leaves a lot more time for napping and beer drinking (AFTER the last round only, of course)with friends. This is a clear case of CD abuse. I say that we the pilots form a union and go on
Doug and RCSE,
Browne didn't mention that the contact with the power lines occurred
within approx. 150-200 ft. of parked cars and after witnessing over the
years 4 events where sailplanes lit up the sky after hitting high
voltage lines.this one was by far the most spectacular.
The Ava hit
Hello everyone, I'm trying to rig up a vent door in a kit-car so I can open
and close the vent remotely. Its would be tough to run a stiff cable to the door
due to its location, so I was thinking of using a heavy duty landing gear servo
located at the door, and a simple on/off switch under
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 12:57:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|Hello everyone, I'm trying to rig up a vent door in a kit-car so I can
|open and close the vent remotely. Its would be tough to run a stiff
|cable to the door due to its location, so I was thinking of using a
|
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 11:55:29AM -0500, Bruce Hobbs wrote:
| Browne didn't mention that the contact with the power lines occurred
| within approx. 150-200 ft. of parked cars and after witnessing over the
| years 4 events where sailplanes lit up the sky after hitting high
| voltage
This sounds like a binding servo problem. On the earlier launch, the power
bus may have been pulled down by the overcurrent causing the momentary
control lockup you described. Releasing from the winch may have released
the bind allowing the resumption of normal control. This reasoning
1. The power lines in question are on the west side of the road which runs
along the west side of the field; the winds were from the east, so we were
launching and landing west to east.
2. We did notify Austin Energy about the incident, and they sent
someone out to inspect. They said that
Not the same but anyhow...
I am lucky to be alive. After a F3F competition last weekend Helge Borchert
(German pilot) flew his Crossfire (flew nice btw..) and suddenly shouted for
no contact. He went down far behind and while I flew a prototype Taifun my
friend Espen asked if I heard a strange
It is entirely possible that the energy generated (EMI/RFI - from DC up into
the GHz) by such an event could adversly affect RX's OR the TX's.
The more likely reason the RX's have been compromised has more to do with
circuitry that is already powered up. The additional energy may exceed the
I just ran a range check on a Hitec 555 receiver in my dlg Photon which
was either inside or alongside my van
Naturally, any Rx that was OFF at the time would not have been damaged.
The concern is about the Rx's that were ON at the time. Frankly, I'm quite
skeptical at the moment. I'm waiting
In Sweden (and lately also Norway) they have used low power winches for
quite a while now. They use regular F3B winches with extra resistors to form
a pull of 20kg (apx 700oz or 44lb) on the line. This makes starts a bit more
even for F3B models compared to RES models. And there will be no
Awesome pics, glad to hear you are safe. Did you think you were at the
F3J Worlds in Canada for a moment. :-)
At 01:16 PM 5/17/2005, Jo Grini wrote:
Not the same but anyhow...
I am lucky to be alive. After a F3F competition last weekend Helge
Borchert (German pilot) flew his Crossfire (flew
Elmohut,
Interested in the Evo. Not getting responses from emails sent directly to
you.
PM me if you are still offering it, and include contact info.
Aradhana Singh Khalsa
Espanola, New Mexico
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Oh yes. Offcourse I thought about WC in Canada. But not the Tornado that
took the tent. On practice days me and Aril (another Norwegian pilot) flew
when a dustdevil formed. We heard many shouted land and hold on to your
stuff. Both me and him headed straight for the devil and got kicked out a
Interesting... this will be fun. :-)
Jojo you have a 2 meter? (Besides a sloper) At least you can get 2 days of
practice in before the real planes. LOL
Steve
At 01:29 PM 5/17/2005, Jojo wrote:
Sadly I have never tried your US-style winches with braided line so cant
comment on all issues. But
big bang and Helge came back with his radio saying: Modell 1 wurden
verandert... It had gone crazy by the sparkling electricity. Crazy
I don't know Norwegian Joe...or is that suppose to be English!!! 8-0
I bet you found good lift!!! **sigh** Great photos!
~Don
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Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
www.grini.no
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From: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: Jojo and the NATS
Interesting... this will be
That's the language of a German Graupner MC24 radio...
See you ;-)
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
www.grini.no
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From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Receiver Malfunctions
Translation:
Configuration/setup of Model 1 was modified.
Please thoroughly check all settings before using this configuration and the
active configuration!
Joe
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005
High winds, like those present in tornados and hurricanes creates incredible
levels of electrical energy. What you experienced is that energy. Nice camera-
work Jo...
Quoting Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Not the same but anyhow...
I am lucky to be alive. After a F3F competition last weekend
As previously mentioned, damage to devices that are not initially powered up
should be fine. However the path of the extraneous noise (from the event) does
not emanate equally, therefore a device which was near another which was
adverely affected may also be fine. It is a hit-and-miss affair.
The receivers that would not work after the incident were not powered up
when the incident occurred. Those people who were flying at the time have
reported no radio problems.
Hi Guys,
Just a reminder that the Kansas Soaring and
Electric Club will be hosting an aerotow this Friday-Sunday.
Details are on our website, www.kcse.us. Click on the aerotow ad banner
for the page with the details.
Have about 15 commitments from flyers. Club
members will have their
For those looking, I do STOCK Pikes, Fazers,Escapes,Espadas, Topaz, TopazL,
and occasional Sharons, Nimbus 4, ASW27,and CROSSFIRE (almost)and full
Airtronics . Also...we think..monofilament,(lost in LA) drums , and, winders
as well as the LAST Hollenbeck f3b winch Jim Baggs and sport
Essentially this should be adequate evidence that TX settings subject to
EMI/RFI are not immune to changing paramters.
It's worth pointing out that those who were (physically) near the powerline
incident, the same energy thay may have adversely affected their RX's leaves
the TX's open to
Jack,
There's nothing really special about the Icon packs. Just have someone
like www.battlepack.com make up a 5-cell pack of 4 sub-C cells standing
vertically and one facing forward. Don used to sell Sanyo 1250mAh NiCd
packs for the Icon, but may be using the new 1700mAh cells. Another
Just a note: I've had good luck with the CA glue available from Rocklers. Price is reasonable and it seems to work as well as any I have tried.
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?offerings_id=10954filter=CA%20glue
Tom
hi all,
anyone have a few 5mm x 80 pitch t-nuts that would like
to sell, or have a source for them.
thanks,
Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com
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I've followed this thread with some interest ... as JB said, we've
discussed this topic trekking back and forth from many contests in the
van.
The advent of affordable molded models has done more to cause line
problems than any other single facet of our chosen sport. Today's
molded sailplanes
this is for a typical metric thread towhook.
Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: [RCSE] need metric t-nut
hi all,
anyone have a few 5mm x 80 pitch t-nuts that would
Hello everyone,
We are two weeks away from the fourth annual Wood Crafters 2005 event and
I'm starting to hyper a bit in anticipation of having a ton of fun flying
woodys with you guys. This event is for all of us to enjoy and I plan on
putting it on for as long as I am still standing and people
Mr. Pat McCleave is hooking me up.
Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: need metric t-nut (towhook)
this is for a typical metric thread
AVA. 3 micro servos included. It's only got about a dozen flights on it.
Never crashed. Just add your receiver and fly! It had a ballast tube in it
but I'm keep it because if was custom made for the Icon ballast system.
$735+ shipping. It's red tips and tails and the standard yellow center
Sold to Steve Dworsky.
To all interested parties,sorry I didn't respond to your emails
yesterday.Work always seems to interfere with my life.One day I'm
going to put an end to that.
The work,not the life!
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I don't see it slowing down a contest Jeff. Maybe the first time someone
uses the system they may break the weak link but you have the whole round to
get the chute and fix the line. If the week link is colored you can make
the call if you are watching the launch. After the first few times someone
Tom's analysis is, as they might say in JOE (jolly olde England), SPOT ON.
And this excellent observation from non other than our current LSF President.
Tom has the experience to define the FIX for this issue and has just done so.
I'll back his direction on this one.
Regards, Dave Corven.
Jojo -
Be careful. It's too late for us to try and find a new teammate for F3j at
the Nats.
Happy trails - Rob Glover
Not the same but anyhow...
I am lucky to be alive. After a F3F competition last weekend Helge Borchert
(German pilot) flew his Crossfire (flew nice btw..) and
Can I get an AMEN Brother...Praise the lord and tap the pedal..
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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] OVSS and Line Breaks
So Paul, you started this thread...
You have seen some excellent responses, what do you think about this
subject now?
Will you be at the first OVSS contest this weekend? (both days, it's in
your backyard brother)
Will you be wearing your pink hat? 8-)
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Getting the G.E. ready for spring, changing transmitters as well. Can
someone help me with the ruddervater throws? How much up/down? How
about differential?
TIA
Stan
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Hey Paul I have a wedding you can attend for me! lol
At 08:12 PM 5/17/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
So Paul, you started this thread...
You have seen some excellent responses, what do you think about this
subject now?
Will you be at the first OVSS contest this weekend? (both days, it's in
your
I have a NCFM M60 slope plane that's not going to get flown much
here in Florida (yes, there are slope sites here. No, this isn't the
right plane for them.) I'm planning on shipping it out to California
to someone in the San Diego area where I can pick it up on Thursday
(volunteers?); I'll
Maybe we are getting to that point that we are going to have to define
winch as was done in F3B.
Other countries did not have the Ford starter so went with individual
winches rather than club winches but now we have a definition for that
winch 23 milliohms of resistance between the starter
Peter Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a NCFM M60 slope plane that's not going to get flown much
here in Florida (yes, there are slope sites here. No, this isn't the
right plane for them.)
I found a web page about it here:
http://www.northcountyflyingmachines.com/M60.htm
It looks
Actually Richard we do retrieve our lines by foot all the time, no retrievers
in our contests in OVSS. The reason that the ford motor is used is it is what
has been used for years, maybe not the best idea, but available and fairly
cheap. The ownership issue is an individual choice, I have
Maybe we could just string our winches with CF Twine? Or Kevlar reinforced
line...
Bring on bigger, stronger planes.
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I remembered an article at a website from one of our connector
suppliers that we utilize on aircraft and agricultural precision
guidance systems:
http://www.glenair.com/html/emi.htm
This is a small sample of EMI/RFI events, there are many natural and
man-made electrical events (EMI/RFI) that are
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