and not
much more than Class IV products.
The problem I see right off the bat, is secondary containment of the
sprinkler water runoff. There are super fast deluge systems but not sure
deflagration hazards are a good match for subterranian storage
opportunities.
my two cents
Bob
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criteria. For example, where fuel fired equipment is located in an
otherwise unprotected attic, sprinkler protection is required to be
installed above it….
I hope that helps.
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is a minimum
standard for the design and installation of standpipes which will be used
by the first responders – who should be the only one’s deciding the design
criteria and the location of equipment to be used in fighting fires.
That’s my 2 cents – I hope that helps.
bc
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the arm over (but if it’s long
enough….)
I’m sitting in an airport without a book so there might be other opinions
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> I have an armover that is 2'-4" in length. The SEOR is requi
engineers
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Fpdcdesign wrote:
> I am working on an installation where the fire pump is going to be
> installed above and already poured radiant heat floor. Outside of not being
> able to drill into the floor, is there anything else I should be
see playing
out every day – this is not the place for it.
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Sorry, I didn’t see the word, “sidewall” when I responded. I need more
sleep
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terial
equivalent to the web construction so that individual channel areas do not
exceed 300 ft2 (28 m2)
But I’m guessing your situation doesn’t meet that definition….
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to primary
industry topics.
Best regards,
Bob
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to warrant a warning. There can be no pricing discussions or anything
close to it.
Thank you all and I hope this forum will continue to be a valuable resource
for our members!
Best regards,
Bob
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for support. We sit on over 30 standards and have 5 FPE’s on staff.
Many of our training programs are available remotely as well. If you visit
our website: www.firesprinkler.org you may find our association useful as
well.
Best regards,
Bob
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having pdf’s and they offer a free trial to try it before you
buy it.
LINK is the alternative to pdf’s and hard copies.
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I don’t weigh in on forum matters often, but as one who has done a
significant amount of (contract) plan reviews, if the number of sprinklers
on the branch lines outside of the grid visually appears to potentially
present a greater demand, I would ask for calcs to prove they are not.
Any
a minimum level of
protection – nothing says we cannot or should not do more. Yes, I know I
am preaching to the choir with this angle but our codes and standards
cannot address every situation specifically and the AHJ probably has a
reasonable thought in their request.
Just my 2 cents
*Bob
flow, a hydrant or even the annual fire
pump test or standpipe flow testing could qualify as the means to perform a
forward flow test
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of a problem on this one?
Bob
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inal suppression.
Much of this needs to be discussed with the municipal AHJ and maybe the
insurance company.
So, the answer to your question is probably, “depends”
Best regards,
Bob Caputo, CFPS
*It should be noted that the above is my opinion. It has not been
processed as a formal interpreta
California has its own version of NFPA 25, which is enforced statewide.
Main Drain tests are annual only in the CA edition. They have lined through
the monthly requirement. In addition, the State of California has its own
forms which are required whether electronic or paper.
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get a
computer generated report or we take a static read and make believe we had
a 10% drop to predict the residual.
Just sayin’
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Thank you Mr. Leyton for self-policing and reminding everyone the forum is
not the place for advertisements of any kind.
The forum is solely for the purpose of peer review information and the
exchange of ideas, technical (informal) interpretations of codes and
standards. Participants are not
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- (4) Minimum ceiling design of OH2 shall be used.
Your AHJ should be able to accept this under section 1.5 of whatever
edition you’re using
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nal consultation or services.*
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posted causes me to remind everyone to avoid doing
so.
Please refer to the material without reproducing it. If need be, to a small
snippet *might* be ok
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out on my statement.
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2019 incorporated Miscellaneous and Low Piled Storage requirements into
the chapters addressing sprinkler technology for storage applications
(CMDA, CMSA, ESFR and Rack Storage) as opposed to having its own chapter as
it did in 2016
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stuff, as long as you can still
remember it
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Steve,
I suggest looking at the FM Guidelines on distilled spirits, I have a
copy somewhere if you need it or any help drinking the evidence
Bob Caputo
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not adequate.
When I look at the foam in landing pits of gymnasiums or even the
bleachers, I'd have a hard time seeing a simple gymnasium as light hazard.
This is a personal opinion.
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are addressed by NFPA 25 and
addressed the corrosive nature of the environment on the sprinklers, but the
committee rejected the proposal to omit sprinklers above the indoor pool.
Bob Caputo, CFPS
President
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Expand your business with ITM.
Professionalize the role of your
kilos)
Bob Caputo, President
AFSA
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:24 AM tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:
> The building is new wood frame with insulated roof deck over the Attics.
> The
> roof pitches range from 8:12 – 12:12. Occupancy is
or removal from
the forum at the discretion of AFSA management and leadership. This is not open
to debate.
Thank you for your understanding and Happy New Year to one and all.
Bob Caputo, President
AFSA
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Bob Caputo wrote:
>
> Leyton,
>
>
keep comments generic or
offline.
Thank you, the management
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> On Dec 28, 2021, at 4:01 PM, 321 via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> Having been in this business for almost 50 years, I have learned that the
> quality of a Fire Sp
is opinion should net be
relied upon as consultation.
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President
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trays is listed as a Group A plastic in the annex list….
Not sure NFPA 13 has any dark corners, though the color of the new edition
is dark gray ;-)
Bob Caputo, Lurking the dark corners of Dubai this week
AFSA
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 2:49 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerfo
hope that helps
Bob Caputo
AFSA
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 4:08 AM James Crawford via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:
> Hope some can help, I seem to remember there was a time frame of the
> sprinkler demand plus largest container in order to figure ou
with any other brand.
As always, the opinions expressed herein are my personal opinions and may
not be considered as the opinion of NFPA or its committees. This opinion
should not be considered or used as consultation services.
Bob Caputo, President
AFSA
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:55 AM Jamie Seidl
and they should be on a separate (independent) control valve.
It really depends on the content of the fumes (flammability)
Bob Caputo
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%20department%20connection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOUMQFSTJ6E
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Just my thoughts
Bob Caputo
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NFPA 20 is clear that the pump room is to be protected per EH2. By
definition of EH2, the presence of the diesel fuel makes it EH2. See
4.14.1.3
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Not to mention it’s a horrible practice in my opinion
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position of the AFSA, and/or NFPA or its technical
committees. AFSA cannot provide design or consulting engineering services,
and this opinion should therefore not be considered, nor relied upon, as
such.
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you for your understanding.
Bob Caputo, CFPS
President
American Fire Sprinkler Association
Get in the (Fitter) Zone!
AFSA's "Fitter Zone" features live webinars designed specifically for fire
sprinkler fitters. These live presentations are held on Saturdays whenever
possible, so you
with a forklift so….
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> On Jul 1, 2021, at 2:52 PM, BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
> From an old fire guys perspective I’d be more concerned with accidental head
> breakage than water dispersal.
>
> Best.
>
>
>> On 0
Pete,
You are correct. Where the closet is less than 400 ft3, no clearance is
required below the deflector
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considered the opinion of AFSA, NFPA
or any technical committee upon which I serve. (13/25/24/291)
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S
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 11:23 AM Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:
> There goes my logic, right out the window..again.
>
> Mike Hill
>
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evation pressure, or do I need to
> design and calc as though the tank is nearly depleted?
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Sincerely you’re measuring the flow and pressure at the hydrant in the
first place, why would you need to know that? Just curious...
Reverse engineering the water supply in the water main below?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:57 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum <
move water and add pressure, they
can’t add water.
Again, just my 2 cents wort…. Not be be considered the opinion of NFPA, AFSA or
any technical committee nor the formal opinion of the NFPA 13, 24, 291 or 25
committees.
Bob Caputo, CFPS
President
American Fire Sprinkler Association
,
and they bring a pump in the engine when they show up - so its more likely
you’d need to add a water storage tank if fire flow is the concern. Fire flow
is not a NFPA 13 issue but section 11.1.5.3 is.
Just adding my 2 cents...
Bob Caputo, CFPS
President
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This may have been approved by the local AHJ, which would be the
appropriate assumption based on NFPA 25. We are not doing a design
analysis.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 9:34 AM Dale Wingard via Sprinklerforum <
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> Sounds like the intent was to protect
!
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and the opinion
of the writer and may not be considered a formal interpretation of the
standard, may not express the opinion of NFPA or its technical committees.
Bob
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of NFPA or its technical
committees.
Best regards,
Bob
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NFPA 13, 2019 edition actually addresses this in section 29.2
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sued over my
response - so I know this answer really well
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:44 AM tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:
> Project is a 100 year old 6 story Steel & Concrete Hotel building. The roof
> is steel fram
FM Global has a standard for this specifically. I recommend downloading it
from their website. Great information that might provide guidance for you.
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in the
“damned” area regardless of pitch of pipe or the rating of the gasket used with
the coupling (in dry pipe or reaction systems).
Bob Caputo
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jeff Normand via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
> I have been designing with sch 7 pipe for over 25 yea
Thank youSame to you and yours
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Just my opinion - and is not intended to represent the opinion of AFSA, NFPA or
any NFPA Committee
Bob
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represent the official position of
the NFPA or its Technical Committees. In addition, this correspondence is
neither intended, nor should be relied upon, to provide consultation or
services.
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to make it more safe.?
any thoughts?
Regards
Sam
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Bob Caputo bcap...@cox.net wrote:
Since your pump is not listed, you don't comply with NFPA 20 so why does
it
matter if the standard allows an automatic shut off? For your use, the
2010 edition of NFPA
are intended to provide
a precautionary advisory that we shouldn't stick our mitts into stuff we
don't really know enough about, lest we be severely injured or killed
Have a nice day.
Bob Caputo
Oh, yeah - the opinion stated above is a personal opinion which may not be
considered
to the requirements
of the local AHJ in each case where sprinklers are used in lieu of rated
glass?
Please know I am not looking to argue - just looking to be clear or to
verify that I've misunderstood this code allowance for years.
Best regards,
Bob Caputo, CFPS, CET
657 Cantara Lane, Vista, CA 92081
Thom,
I'm hopeful Mr. Izzo will shed more light on this for us... it's not a NFPA
13 allowance - it's a building code issue and my expertise is limited to
scuba diving.
Bob Caputo, CFPS, CET
SSI Master Diver Certified
I doubt you could be Wong.
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cannot sell!!
Best Regards,
Salvatore J. Izzo, P.E. SFPE
Manager - Reliable Technical Services
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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:11
Hilti has an epoxy hanger listed but you have to drill the holes 1st so you
may as use the post installed anchors. Let us know which brands will have
the concrete dust so we can eat something else...
bc
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or
services.
Best regards,
Bob Caputo
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Haji, Jaber M
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:33 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: 2 Buildings with 1 AS Riser
It's not an NFPA requirement - it's a Building Code requirement -
specifically in the IRC
bc
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Forest Wilson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:47 PM
To:
Geo,
We struggled with this on a project some years ago after a drywall
contractor shot a nail through the 3 x 5 plate we'd installed causing
considerable water damage to his dry wall. Of course he then tried to blame
us for not using a thick enough plate... turned out he had a legit argument
.
Bob Caputo, CFPS, CET
657 Cantara Lane, Vista, CA 92081
Fire Life safety America Company
3017 Vernon Rd., Richmond, VA 23228
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad
Sent
Beginning with the 2007 edition of NFPA 13, section 24.6 requires a General
Information Sign on the riser so that all of these design considerations are
posted for future use. The annex includes a sample of the sign but the data
required meets what you're asking for...
bc
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or an engineer of record - not the
contractor. (again - just stating my opinion)
Bob Caputo, CFPS, CET
657 Cantara Lane - Vista, CA 92081
Fire Life Safety America Company
3017 Vernon Rd - Richmond, VA 23228
Office: (804) 222-1381 Cell: (804) 263-1577
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bob Caputo
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:44 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Occupancy
In my opinion, the question isn't directly
an answer today.
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Fire Life Safety America Company
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From: sprinklerforum-boun
Other than NFPA 13, section 6.5.3.3 Grooved fittings, including gaskets
used on dry-pipe, preaction, and deluge systems, shall be listed for dry
pipe service ?
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reliable or unless there are other considerations for the requirement.
Have I missed your point?
Bob Caputo, CFPS
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Fire Life Safety America Company
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commercials - those are all true.
Bob Caputo, CFPS
VP National Accounts
Fire Life Safety America
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