Hi Hakan
There isn't any humus in linseed oil. Triglycerides and some other
stuff, but no humus. Once it's dried (or cured - is there a
difference Greg?) it's pretty inert.
>Hi Keith,
>
>Well in that case I mean humus as in soil and this is
>why you have to wash sand and gravel if it contains
Apologies to those on multiple lists for all the cross-posting.
I spammed a couple of the biofuel-related lists last week with some
complaints about trying to make biodiesel in the midst of some dramatic
local weather. We got the first real winter storm, serious rain- the
Northern California v
Apologies to those on multiple lists for all the cross-posting.
I spammed a couple of the biofuel-related lists last week with some
complaints about trying to make biodiesel in the midst of some dramatic
local weather. We got the first real winter storm, serious rain- the
Northern California v
"motie_d " wrote:
>
>
> I think the Olds 350 and the Chevy 5.7 Diesel are 2 different engines
> that are being confused.
No. The engine was an Oldsmobile diesel. The starter is on the driver's
side, rather than the passenger's side, so the oil filter boss has to be on
the passenger side
Who is in their underwear?
We don't use any clothes at this time of the year.
Merry Xmas to all.
raw
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From: Robby Davenport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Art Stone; bryan; biofuel@yahoogroups.com; Chuck Griffith (E-mail);
'Davenp
"womplex_oo1 " wrote:
> The Kyoto Protocol is now law in Canada. This law will help us
> introduce renewable fuels such as ethanol and biodiesel, which will
> help us survive as a civilization. Kyoto will also help reduce
> greenhouse gases
Yes, but will the authorities change their
Thank you Keith
I have posted the pertinent posts (1508 & 1526) from the FFA
discussion to the Infopop continuous processor thread. Michael
Allen's explanation of the esterification process is very
appropriate to understanding the workings of ColinS' plant design.
Also your reference lead me
I'm relatively new to biodiesel. I'm a General Contractor and
stumbled across Biodiesel while researching for an "off the grid"
construction project.
I have become totally consumed by the idea. I've read everything I
can get my hands on.
I now am considering the prospect of going into the Biodi
well you can't surf the internet in your underwear anymore, look at
this. be afraid be very afraid . the FBI has configured your
coursor as a camera or pair of "eyes"
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Subject: FBI Surveillance
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:47:25 -0500
From: "Ray Dicks" <[EMA
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> don't know about the gm's, but we used ether in sub zero temps to
start our
> big trucks every morning. just a quick shot in the breather to get
it
> turning. most starters can be overrun, so it may have been a fluke
in
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "harley3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Never use "starting fluid" in a diesel engine. I tried starting
fluid once
> in my 6.5 diesel G.M. Suburban.The engine spit the starter out
onto the
> ground.My foolish mistake broke the starter, and torn out 5
teet
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Odiksx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks alot for your info about converting "gasoline"
> engine to diesel engine. As a review; finding a diesel
> engine instead of converting is better...
>
I think the Olds 350 and the Chevy 5.7 Diesel are 2 different engines
Though wash problems weren't a main point of this thread, they've come up
again in there, so...
Let's not forget that soaps (I guess I've made this point in this thread
already) also cause wash problems, along with the wash problems caused by
poor conversion. I think when you have emulsificati
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/19018/story.htm
EU to aim for energy taxation deal in January
EU: December 13, 2002
BRUSSELS - European Union finance ministers will aim to reach a deal
in January on planned common rules for the taxation of energy
products, German Finance Mi
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/19018/story.htm
EU to aim for energy taxation deal in January
EU: December 13, 2002
BRUSSELS - European Union finance ministers will aim to reach a deal
in January on planned common rules for the taxation of energy
products, German Finance Mi
Abandon this top-down, decentralized, think-big view and instead do
everything to encourage small-scale, local production, from backyards
up, including coops and on-farm operations, and I think the picture
would be rather a different one.
Keith
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/new
Abandon this top-down, decentralized, think-big view and instead do
everything to encourage small-scale, local production, from backyards
up, including coops and on-farm operations, and I think the picture
would be rather a different one.
Keith
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/new
I remember when it was so cold the barking of the dogs froze right into the
snow banks.
You should have heard it during Spring thaw!
:)
I saw a couple of our hunting dogs out in the field with jumper cables
trying to jump start a jackrabbit!
That's Montana cold.
Kirk
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--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, studio53 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm still confused- can you clear this up just one more time,
please- I
> promise I'll write it down- is girl mark a guy or girl?
>
I'll start by being a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does it really matter? Pay attention
to her though
back home it was so cold, the spit never left your lips ;-)
Steve Spence
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I put together a similar type of unit for a buddy's RV, Webasto engine heater
around 44000btu and a rad/fan from a Hyundai - never tried BD or SVO but toasty
25deg C in the dead of winter (-20)on D2. Has anyone done any mods to one of
these units for SVO? Lots of exp with diesel heater (I'm a tr
Yeah, Keith-
think waste crops and weeds and we're thinking outside the mainsteam of
biofuel thought...I'm thinking these Laurel (Laurus Nobilus) hedges around
town which grow like bandits annually, and which produce oil (they're a
member of the avocado family I believe) might prove a good fuel oi
Using liquid fuels to produce electricity for any other use than
backup/emergency is not very efficient. The best source for
electricity would be the dried biomass, sans seeds. ( ~16.8
million Btu per ton, 3 + tons per acre, 4,650 + kWh per acre).
Heat would be the useable byproduct of the gasific
Hi Keith,
Well in that case I mean humus as in soil and this is
why you have to wash sand and gravel if it contains
humus, before you use it in concrete. That is why I wanted
to see the experiments referred to in the link,
http://www.flaxcouncil.ca/flaxind7.htm
not because I say that it cannot b
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> A start for that might be found in the current over-production of
> sugar beet, rather than using inequitable trading arrangements to
> dump it on 3rd World countries, distorting their markets and rural
> sect
MM wrote:
>I am happy to consider the idea that it is the other products in a
>barrel which really bring home a somewhat higher margin of money, but
>the figure that you cite ($27,000 per about 2.4 barrels of oil) sounds
>absurd and for the moment the only thing it really does is prevent me
>from
MM wrote:
>I am happy to consider the idea that it is the other products in a
>barrel which really bring home a somewhat higher margin of money, but
>the figure that you cite ($27,000 per about 2.4 barrels of oil) sounds
>absurd and for the moment the only thing it really does is prevent me
>from
On a tractor I drove it said do not heat [use glowplugs] if you're going
to use ether.
desertstallion wrote:
>I have always read in the manuals of the Diesels that I have owned that have
>glow plugs NOT to use ether (Volvo and Ford 6.9 NA). But, I understand, for
>example, that the Diesels in
The Kyoto Protocol is now law in Canada. This law will help us
introduce renewable fuels such as ethanol and biodiesel, which will
help us survive as a civilization. Kyoto will also help reduce
greenhouse gases
Toronto Star Article:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?
pagen
>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >something of interest
> > >
> > > http://www.rerorust.de/
> >
> > Quite a lot of scepticism about him.
> >
> > Do these look that good to you?
> >
> > Cocked or gummed parts? My engine got checked.
> > http://www.reroru
Hello Robert
>The biofuels list includes a very diverse group of people with
>wide ranging
>expertise. I'm pleased that Keith allows us to discuss topics only
>tangentially
>related to the list theme--thanks! It's a real education being here!
Isn't it just? Tangentially related, yes, b
If these formerly waste materials are good for using as some
transportation fuels (such as in tractors) I wonder if they couldn't
also be used in generating electricity or heat.
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:12:43 -0500, you wrote:
>Tim,
>
>No hemp farmer in Canada or Europe is expending $600 per acr
If these formerly waste materials are good for using as some
transportation fuels (such as in tractors) I wonder if they couldn't
also be used in generating electricity or heat.
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:12:43 -0500, you wrote:
>Tim,
>
>No hemp farmer in Canada or Europe is expending $600 per acr
I am happy to consider the idea that it is the other products in a
barrel which really bring home a somewhat higher margin of money, but
the figure that you cite ($27,000 per about 2.4 barrels of oil) sounds
absurd and for the moment the only thing it really does is prevent me
from lending any cre
I am happy to consider the idea that it is the other products in a
barrel which really bring home a somewhat higher margin of money, but
the figure that you cite ($27,000 per about 2.4 barrels of oil) sounds
absurd and for the moment the only thing it really does is prevent me
from lending any cre
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Actually, when I lived in Canada, we did ski in -40. It was great
> because there were so few people on the hill. I loved it. BTW, -
40 is
> both C & F, it is the point where they meet.
>
> I had a 1/4 ton truck
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >something of interest
> >
> > http://www.rerorust.de/
>
> Quite a lot of scepticism about him.
>
> Do these look that good to you?
>
> Cocked or gummed parts? My engine got checked.
> http://www.rerorust.de/rapsoel/chec
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From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 13:53
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Steel roofing plus other building links -(Was
embodiedenergy)
>
> I am saying that humus material is bad for concrete before it is cured,
> please look at my mes
Hi Hakan
I'm confused by your saying "humus material". Do you mean organic
material, or biological material? Humus is what you get in soil, or
should if it's still alive, complicated stuff. Sorry, after what
we've just been saying about English! :-)
Linseed oil or flaxseed oil is a drying oil
Tim,
No hemp farmer in Canada or Europe is expending $600 per acre in
order to get a $600 return.
When you look at those who are cold pressing the seed for oil,
you find that there is an inordinate amount of sludge that gets
separated from the readily filterable oil. Cold pressing does not
give
MM wrote:
>Thanks Tim. Many good things, and I was looking for this part about
>co-products, which I was glad to see you did get in. I was not aware
>that it was so accepted that co-products are what is relatively more
>profitable from a barrel of oil.
This is one figure we had: "As I stated o
MM wrote:
>Thanks Tim. Many good things, and I was looking for this part about
>co-products, which I was glad to see you did get in. I was not aware
>that it was so accepted that co-products are what is relatively more
>profitable from a barrel of oil.
This is one figure we had: "As I stated o
I am saying that humus material is bad for concrete before it is cured,
please look at my message. Concrete does not cure properly with humus
material, which is one of the first things you learn about concrete. I
asked for documentation of investigations that it could be used in/on
concrete b
Hello Myles
There are good yield tables here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
Vegetable oil yields, characteristics
They're low averages, you can do much better than that with a small plot.
For other oil crops, try these:
NewCrop SearchEngine at the Center for New Crops & Plan
LOL I been looking for one of those. I prefer body and interior in good
shape and engine shot. I hate body work but dont mind pulling engines to
rebuild them. Things like running out of oil, swallowed glowplugs etc..
Getting them like that is the only way I can afford them. LOL
Yes folks that don
Of Course the manuals say not to use ether along with other legal jargon and
this is exactly why they say not to use it. Because they can't regulate HOW
people use it. You think they want to have to do warranty work because
someone else screwed up? If you dont understand how ether/startingfluid
wo
Could you please elaborate? You keep saying humus or humus partials is bad
for concrete, but, that is all you say. Why would boiled linseed oil be bad
for concrete after it has cured?
Greg H.
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From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, December 16, 200
From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hemp Fuel Conspiracy?
Why not?
> I also wonder about farming (i.e., if a Hemp farmer could make just
> enough to forestall having to go off-farm for fuel, if this could be
> worth it to him, just for his own fuel needs... probably not.)
Thi
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 09:54 AM, Myles Twete wrote:
> One potential energy plant not investigated since the 1980's that I
> can tell
> is Euphorbia lathyris (aka Mole or Gopher Plant). According to
> Tickell and
> other sources, the Mole plant produces more oil (approx. 1200kg/ha)
I don't know if this has been brought up already or not, but while hemp is
indeed a plant which provides fiber, oil and other uses, its oil content
relative to other biofuel crop alternatives, well, sucks.
According to Tickell's From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank, a hemp crop can
yield oil at about
If you put linseed oil on a cured floor it is one thing. But it you put
humus particles in concrete before it is cured, I know that it can be a
disaster.
Hakan
At 09:19 AM 12/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>You would have to coat the rebar, long enough in advance,that the oil would
>have a chance
Grahams wrote:
> I used such a machine for my house in town. It was very nice, but
> I will explain the concepts of this house a bit better. First realize it is
> located on a farm-(perhaps more correctly an eventual homestead) in VA.
> Here we have copious amounts of red clay- being t
You would have to coat the rebar, long enough in advance,that the oil would
have a chance to cure, and form a coating. This would only slow the break
down process. Much of the break down comes from electrolytic corrosion
caused by dissimilar metals being in proximity to each other with the
concr
Based on personal experience, I would agree with the recommendation to use the
diesel engine to power an electric generator and then do the work with electric
tools. There is an efficiency loss, which is likely to be in the order of 10
to
20% (conversion from mechanical energy to electrical/c
Hi Hakan
>Dear Keith,
>
>I really got you motoring and it is very interesting to read
>your views. Thank you for expanding on the issue, I do not
>find anything important that we disagree on. And thank you
>for keeping a constructive and active attitude, this is maybe
>the most important thing we
>hey all.
>
>some friends of mine at a not for profit company just informed me
>that had acquired a ford f600 truck. I looked for F600 in Tickell's
>book and did not find it...
>
>any issues with this vehicle and biod? Is this a good vehicle to fit
>wiht a dual tank and just run WVO - they have
Bryan:
A fully loaded Chevy Suburban Silverado. It was an all around bad mistake.
I do have a bad temper. It was an excellent tax write off. Again,
hopefully a new person to diesels won't do the same.
Harley
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From: Bryan Fullerton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sen
Dear Keith,
I really got you motoring and it is very interesting to read
your views. Thank you for expanding on the issue, I do not
find anything important that we disagree on. And thank you
for keeping a constructive and active attitude, this is maybe
the most important thing we can do.
When I
hey all.
some friends of mine at a not for profit company just informed me
that had acquired a ford f600 truck. I looked for F600 in Tickell's
book and did not find it...
any issues with this vehicle and biod? Is this a good vehicle to fit
wiht a dual tank and just run WVO - they have mor
>Why not?
>
>> I also wonder about farming (i.e., if a Hemp farmer could make
>just
>> enough to forestall having to go off-farm for fuel, if this
>could be
>> worth it to him, just for his own fuel needs... probably not.)
I see, Tim gave a figure of $30 per gallon for Hempseed oil in the
marketp
I have always read in the manuals of the Diesels that I have owned that have
glow plugs NOT to use ether (Volvo and Ford 6.9 NA). But, I understand, for
example, that the Diesels in the Mercedes Unimogs, that don't have glow
plugs, allow the use of ether. In fact, there is a factory option to have
Right sorry, I meant what I said in the first place. This up-to-$30
per gallon figure would mean, wouldn't it, that the farmer would
almost have to sell it if he could get that kind of money for it
because it's about 15-25 times more expensive (per BTU or per gallon)
than gasoline or regular dies
Darn wish I would have been around.. if that was all that was wrong with it
then it wouldn't be that hard to fix. I would have given a few pesos for
it.. Bonus points if it had been a chevy or GM truck..
Bryan Fullerton
White Knight Gifts
www.youcandobusiness.com
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From
Hi Hakan, Joel
>Dear Joel,
>
>This information was provided earlier by Keith as an argument
>on this issues. Since it is the round for last word, I like to
>clarify my understanding of the discussion.
>
>Motie who is deeply involved with forest management in the area
>where he lives, have some lo
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From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] skin on biodiesel
> Hi Paul, Michael
>
> How do you maintain the heat during the processing hour, Paul?
Keith as this is trully a bucket method of temporary production I don't
maintain the 55 deg.
Right sorry, I meant what I said in the first place. This up-to-$30
per gallon figure would mean, wouldn't it, that the farmer would
almost have to sell it if he could get that kind of money for it
because it's about 15-25 times more expensive (per BTU or per gallon)
than gasoline or regular dies
>Why not?
>
>> I also wonder about farming (i.e., if a Hemp farmer could make
>just
>> enough to forestall having to go off-farm for fuel, if this
>could be
>> worth it to him, just for his own fuel needs... probably not.)
I see, Tim gave a figure of $30 per gallon for Hempseed oil in the
marketp
>Is anyone able to post an overview of the issues involved in making
>biodiesel from raw palm oil please ?? Or provide some URL's.
>
>John Smith
It's been pretty well covered here in the last few months, especially
by Michael Allen. Do an archive search for "Allen" and check the
thread called "
Is anyone able to post an overview of the issues involved in making
biodiesel from raw palm oil please ?? Or provide some URL's.
John Smith
Biofuels at Journey to Forever
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuel at WebConX
http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm
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