Hugh Falk wrote:
>
> Okay, well the word has come back from Jon, and the answer
> is...inconclusive. He said there wasn't one when he left Epyx to form Free
> Fall Associates in 81 (which makes sense, of course). However, there could
> have been one made later on.
That is exactly the answer I
Okay, well the word has come back from Jon, and the answer
is...inconclusive. He said there wasn't one when he left Epyx to form Free
Fall Associates in 81 (which makes sense, of course). However, there could
have been one made later on.
I do know that there was a C-64 version made in 83 so it'
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>..unless those archives go away. I have mirrored as much as Asimov as
>I can, but it won't be around forever...
Now that's a scary thought. Life without Asimov, etc. A few years
ago, I took advantage of the fast connection and a new CD-ROM burner
at work to make a
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
>>
>> them in to get one.) Many people have it at the top of their wanted
>> list, but (even discounting one-of-a-kind prototypes) there are
>> certainly other games that are rarer.
>
>What's rarer than a one-of-a-kind prototype? I thought pro
The DVD project sounds awesome...please let me know more!
Hugh
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From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Data or Packaging...which is more valuable?
Hugh Falk wrote:
>
> A large ma
Hugh Falk wrote:
>
> Really Just look at the stuff pre-83. Especially SSI games, not cracked
> at all.
That's because they weren't protected, dude! :-) Plus, pre-1983 a lot
of pirates were just hobbyists that cracked stuff because they
themselves wanted to make backups. 1983 and later is
Hugh Falk wrote:
>
> Cracked? What do you mean? I have the original box and disk that says on
> the EA label: "IBM XT, PC, PCjr, COMPAQ"
PC does not equal "DOS". It is a bootable disk, like Pinball
Construction Set, Music Construction Set, Dr J. and Larry Bird go One on
One, and other convers
Really Just look at the stuff pre-83. Especially SSI games, not cracked
at all.
Hugh
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From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Data or Packaging...which is more valuable?
"Lee
Hugh Falk wrote:
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> A large majority of them are uncracked. Most of the C-64 (and later) stuff
> I've seen is cracked...but not Apple.
Now, or earlier? I went bonkers when I discovered Asimov, and the 150
or so images I tested out were at least 90-95% cracked. Maybe I got
lucky... or maybe t
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
>
> Hugh Falk boldly stated:
> >
> >So there are two types of people here: Collectors (represented by Pedro)
> >and Data Preservationists (represented by Jim). Both are noble causes that
> >can keep you busy for a long time.
>
> >I don't know
> >about DOS games, but just
Hugh Falk wrote:
>
> The difference is that once the data is preserved (copied onto other media)
> it is no longer a collector's item...there can be unlimited copies made
> (legality is another issue, of course, but I won't cover that here).
> Everyone can have it and the game data can forever be
Cracked? What do you mean? I have the original box and disk that says on
the EA label: "IBM XT, PC, PCjr, COMPAQ"
Hugh
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From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] trademark for colle
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
>
> them in to get one.) Many people have it at the top of their wanted
> list, but (even discounting one-of-a-kind prototypes) there are
> certainly other games that are rarer.
What's rarer than a one-of-a-kind prototype? I thought prototypes were
the Holy Grail of cart
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
>
> Jim Leonard boldly stated:
> >
> >That's not quite what I meant, but you pose an interesting point: Is a
> >software package without diskettes collectable at all? I would love to
> >hear everyone's thoughts on this. Personally, I can't place any value
> >at all in a s
Hugh Falk wrote:
>
> About Murder on the Zinderneuf...I have the DOS version, and I'm in the
> Northern Hemisphere! :-) I had no idea it was valuable at all. I don't
That's because the DOS version isn't DOS -- it's a booter. You must
have a cracked copy.
Unless, of course, my sources are wro
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> >No, but it *is* the floppies that make Zinderneuf or Fractalus or
> >CCnChomp rare. I have Zinderneuf; I have strong info that CCnChomp
> >exists; Fractalus is an unconfirmed rumor. Honestly, the boxes mean
> >jack squat to me right now about those PC titles ;-)
>
>
A large majority of them are uncracked. Most of the C-64 (and later) stuff
I've seen is cracked...but not Apple.
-Original Message-
From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Data or Packaging...which
Hugh Falk boldly stated:
>
>So there are two types of people here: Collectors (represented by Pedro)
>and Data Preservationists (represented by Jim). Both are noble causes that
>can keep you busy for a long time.
>I don't know
>about DOS games, but just about every Apple game is already availab
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>What continually confuses me is that there are at least 50 times the
>number of copies of Ultimas, Infocoms, etc. than there are of titles
>like Cyborg for the PC. Cyborg PC is definitely an extremely rare
>item. So why isn't it extremely sought after, or valued hig
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>That's not quite what I meant, but you pose an interesting point: Is a
>software package without diskettes collectable at all? I would love to
>hear everyone's thoughts on this. Personally, I can't place any value
>at all in a software package that is missing the a
Both of you make excellent points. I tend to side more with Pedro. In the
long run, the packaging is more "valuable" to a collector. However, Jim is
also right...the data is very valuable to preserve.
The difference is that once the data is preserved (copied onto other media)
it is no longer a
Jim,
I've sent Jon Freeman a note asking if a DOS version of CCC exists. He made
the game and has an excellent memory, so I should be able to let you know
soon.
Why isn't Quest for the Ring at the top of my list? You should read my
thoughts about what makes a game "valuable." It can be found
About Murder on the Zinderneuf...I have the DOS version, and I'm in the
Northern Hemisphere! :-) I had no idea it was valuable at all. I don't
remember where/when I got mine, but the person would have been lucky to get
$5 for it. I don't see how the DOS version would have been especially rare.
Jim Leonard wrote:
>Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> >Not the point -- if it's rare, *nobody* has copies. Which is why I try
> >to collect them -- to make copies before the software is lost forever.
>
> It's not the Starcross floppies that make the game rare, right? :)
>No, but it *is* the floppies th
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> >Not the point -- if it's rare, *nobody* has copies. Which is why I try
> >to collect them -- to make copies before the software is lost forever.
>
> It's not the Starcross floppies that make the game rare, right? :)
No, but it *is* the floppies that make Zinderneuf o
Jim Leonard wrote:
>Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> I'd say yes. Definitely yes for me. Original floppies are so easy to find
>Easy to find? Over here, rare games are rare, disks only or not.
I can more easily find floppies from a rare game than a box from a rare
game
> You can get backups everywhe
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> >I myself am slightly that, as I am slightly ADD (attention deficit
> >disorder). So is my wife, and we bore two children: one is autistic,
> >and the other has apraxia (speech delay, but thankfully nothing else).
> >My father is one of the world's most renouned Numisma
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> I'd say yes. Definitely yes for me. Original floppies are so easy to find
Easy to find? Over here, rare games are rare, disks only or not.
> You can get backups everywhere, and most of the times you probably have one
> handy yourself, so why worry? :)
Not the point -
Jim Leonard wrote:
>Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> >I myself am slightly that, as I am slightly ADD (attention deficit
> >disorder). So is my wife, and we bore two children: one is autistic,
> >and the other has apraxia (speech delay, but thankfully nothing else).
> >My father is one of the world's m
Jim Leonard wrote:
>
> > He is? What's his name, if I may ask? I'm a numismatic myself, but a small
> > one at that.
>
> Robert Leonard. Although he's bigger in the States than
> international... although he was president of the ANA (American
> Numismatics Association) for a year.
I should add
Jim Leonard wrote:
>Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> Hugh Falk wrote,
> >Well, there is one other valid reason. Let's say that only 100,000
Ultima
> >IV's where ever produced (for the sake of a round number). And let's
say
> >that half of those have been thrown away, lost or otherwise damaged
beyond
>
Jim Leonard wrote:
>Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> Jim Leonard wrote:
> >Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> >
> > I thought of "habyt", "hobit", but ended up with "hobbyt", how does it
> > sound?
>
> >Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder seems to fit the bill more.
>
> You have just stated that about 50% of game collec
Sure, I'd trade away 90% of those Suspended too, the same way I'd trade
away 2 or 3 of my Ultima 4... if anybody wanted them! :)
Pedro R. Quaresma
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