Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-18 12:01 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev : > > > You make sound 1.7% as not much, however, in say civil aviation or > maritime industries, consistent 1.7% of fuel efficiency increase would be a > breakthrough. > > I do not suggest, speaking figuratively, not

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Komяpa
Hi, Please don't try to save on keeping data in text format, this is a path to removing source= tags and starting to use abbreviations in name for the sake of file size, ignoring the fact that each object has much longer iso8601 timestamp attached to it. Use proper format, like .osm.pbf, that

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 18.01.18 06:58, Mark Wagner wrote: On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:14:17 +0100 Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: Good morning, I started to experiment with the OSM data [1] on a local computer, and I begin to realize how big these data files are. It takes quite a while to load

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 18.01.18 10:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-01-18 6:14 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev >: - deleting unnecessary nodes from a way (Shift-Y in JOSM) with consequent verification of its geometry; please do not use

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-18 6:14 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev : > > - deleting unnecessary nodes from a way (Shift-Y in JOSM) with consequent > verification of its geometry; please do not use SHIFT+y (simplify way / DouglasPeucker) because it doesn't know about the actual geometry,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-17 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:14:17 +0100 Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Good morning, > > I started to experiment with the OSM data [1] on a local computer, > and I begin to realize how big these data files are. It takes quite a > while to load into the local database just the

[OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-17 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
Good morning, I started to experiment with the OSM data [1] on a local computer, and I begin to realize how big these data files are. It takes quite a while to load into the local database just the data for one country. What can I as a map editor do to keep these data files to a reasonable

[OSM-talk] OSM science mailing list

2018-01-13 Thread joost schouppe
Hi, We have created a science mailing. That would be the place discuss details of the implementation, if any, of our own survey engine. Apart from that, go there to: - talk about recent sciencetific research - develop the OSM research agenda - get feedback and support on your planned OSM surveys

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-26 Thread Simon Poole
On 26.12.2017 14:10, Colin Smale wrote: > > Why bother anyway? Why not just leave it to FvGordon? 90k changesets > fixing other people's tagging errors... > What wasn't clear about ".. preventing inadvertent mistakes to start with ..". After the fact validation just doesn't really work IMHO (as

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-26 Thread Colin Smale
Why bother anyway? Why not just leave it to FvGordon? 90k changesets fixing other people's tagging errors... http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/FvGordon/history Actually, an analysis of all these changesets might produce some interesting insights into "frequently made errors". //colin On

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-26 Thread Simon Poole
We already have validation tools in many forms for post-editing validation and already know how difficult they are to get "right" (see OSMOSE complaining about P+R facilities for a trivial example). I don't quite see why there is a need to create yet another one/system. On the other hand

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 24.12.2017 21:03, Colin Smale wrote: > The real challenge here is not for the coders, but a perennial challenge > for the OSM community. How do we get to such a consensus about tagging > patterns, that we can actually say "this is correct" and "this is wrong > enough to warrant correction"

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Colin, I think we should look at JOSM's validations as a good example of what is needed. For some validations, it extended MapCSS with its own custom quirks, and even added its own unit testing. For other types of validations (e.g. geometries), it seems to fall back to full code. Having a single

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Yuri, We have to decide what is most important - fidelity to the infinite number of tagging styles out there, or the ability to get a basic set of tagging grammar accepted in as many tools as possible. Any rules grammar will always have limits of course. If the rules are too complex to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Declarative rules are usually not very good. Every tool must understand every type of rule, and must be updated when new rule types are introduced. Plus declarative grammar is either too limiting, or eventually starts looking like a scripting language itself, and we end up building an execution

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread john whelan
The problem with HOT inspired maperthons is half the participants will not return. So restricting their choices to the most common is helpful. Typically I see highway=primary between two small settlements, highway=living_steet by mappers mapping from imagery in African countries that do not have

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/12/17 18:41, john whelan wrote: True but it's to do with data quality and avoiding the need to validate. I don't think that different presets will "avoid the need to validate" in any scenario (HOT or otherwise) - the only thing that will do that is education and training - and having

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread john whelan
True but it's to do with data quality and avoiding the need to validate. Thank you for the comment. Cheerio John On 24 Dec 2017 1:37 pm, "Bryan Housel" wrote: > What you are describing has nothing to do with validation. This could be > done now without any new

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Bryan Housel
What you are describing has nothing to do with validation. This could be done now without any new development just by running a copy of iD with different presets. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 24, 2017, at 12:08 PM, john whelan wrote: > > But what I suspect could be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Bryan Le 24 déc. 2017 4:45 PM, "Bryan Housel" a écrit : Have you looked at https://github.com/osmlab/osmlint ? Of all the current validation efforts, that seems like the most promising. I didn't know OSMLint and OSM QA tiles before Very promising indeed for parallel

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread john whelan
But what I suspect could be done is when iD in invoked from a HOT project it could restrict the options on things like highways to those in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa which would save a lot of living_streets etc. being added in parts of Africa where there

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Bryan Housel
Have you looked at https://github.com/osmlab/osmlint ? Of all the current validation efforts, that seems like the most promising. I’d definitely echo what other people are saying about avoiding the osm wiki if possible. It works on vector tiles though, so

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread François Lacombe
Thanks for answers :) I said a lib, but indeed the diversity of projects would be too problematic for implementation and rollouts. JSON, xml, text are fine https://twitter.com/VincentPrivat/status/944923315831033856 As Simon said, taginfo is a great tool to extract data from wiki. Even if it's

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Simon Poole
On the one hand lots of the in principle useful information in the wiki is not really easily extractable and on the other hand it is prone to manipulation in more than one way (current fad is to add big warnings about tagging errors what are not). IMHO addressing the first issue would likely be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Colin Smale
The technical differences between java and JS do not preclude generic thinking. Consider tzdata[1] for example, which does something analogous for time zone data. The "rules database" can be made portable, in the form of XML or JSON for example. The logic for using these rules can be described

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/12/17 11:49, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: It would be cool to have such library running on osm2pgsql import, fixing and complaining/skipping all the mistaked tag usage it can detect. This can possibly resurrect some objects that are lost because of typos or old tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
> conform validation to wiki Sometimes wiki is wrong and should be changed. Note also that authors of different tools have different opinions how and what should be reported as errors. On 24 Dec 2017 11:12 a.m., "François Lacombe" wrote: Hi Here is an idea I got

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Komяpa
Hi, What language would that library be in, if level0 and iD are in javascript, JOSM and Vespucci are in Java, and many random console tools are in python and perl? It would be cool to have such library running on osm2pgsql import, fixing and complaining/skipping all the mistaked tag usage it

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread James
ID is javascript, JOSM is java. So right there I already see a intercompatibility issue On Dec 24, 2017 6:12 AM, "François Lacombe" wrote: > Hi > > Here is an idea I got regarding tagging validation in editors (iD, JOSM, > others). > Subsequently to wiki proposal

[OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Here is an idea I got regarding tagging validation in editors (iD, JOSM, others). Subsequently to wiki proposal voting and cleanups, it's currently necessarily to open issues in each editor repository to ask for new tagging validation rules. It can sometimes be time consuming to develop those

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM website stats on the end of the year

2017-12-13 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 13.12.2017 o 09:29, Tom Pfeifer pisze: What measurements are these estimates based on? AFAIK they collect the data through the browser toolbar: https://www.alexa.com/toolbar -- "My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple]

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps that are accessible for the visually

2017-12-13 Thread Jeremiah Rose
The American Printing House for the Blind's Nearby Explorer app uses OSM to support indoor navigation. We have a video demonstrating the app reading out the distance and direction of POIs to a blind user. http://www.aph.org/news/july-2017/ http://tech.aph.org/ne/ To that end, we've been

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM website stats on the end of the year

2017-12-13 Thread Tom Pfeifer
What measurements are these estimates based on? On 12.12.2017 02:00, Daniel Koć wrote: I've just visited Alexa free stats on OSM website and here are some interesting facts: - Current Global Rank for OSM: 6988 (down 833) - Most visitors come from USA, Germany, China, UK and France (in both

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired

2017-12-12 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 12/12/2017 14:28, john whelan wrote: Are you asking specifically for ones that run on Apple systems or would another operating system be acceptable? It's not actually me that's asking, so I can't add too much, but I suspect that the explicit mention of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired

2017-12-12 Thread john whelan
Are you asking specifically for ones that run on Apple systems or would another operating system be acceptable? Thanks John On 12 December 2017 at 07:24, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: > Someone's just asked a question over on the forum asking about "OSM maps > that are accessible

[OSM-talk] OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired

2017-12-12 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
Someone's just asked a question over on the forum asking about "OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired" https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=676783#p676783 .  I said I'd ask here as this list probably has a wider readership. Question from forum follows: "we are

[OSM-talk] OSM website stats on the end of the year

2017-12-11 Thread Daniel Koć
I've just visited Alexa free stats on OSM website and here are some interesting facts: - Current Global Rank for OSM: 6988 (down 833) - Most visitors come from USA, Germany, China, UK and France (in both USA and China rank number is lower than global average, but probably much more people

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-05 Thread Gaurav Thapa
Ilya, Thank for creating this interesting challenge. I have used it for the last two days. I am having a slight problem with two things. - I am having trouble connecting with telegram. Everytime I click on the 'click to start the bot' it gives me a 'this address wasn't understood' error

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-05 Thread Ilya Zverev
Frederik wrote: > I'm sure that before too long, you will receive many emails by people who > offer all kinds of excuses for not having edited on one particular day and > who beg you to allow them to make up for it without breaking their "streak" ;) Actually the website should accept a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-05 Thread James
Actually I find it great so far, one day it's buildings, one day it's adding an unmapped road, takes people out of their usual mapping rut and expands their breath of knowledge about osm(may have to use wiki to look how to tag things On Dec 5, 2017 5:52 AM, "Frederik Ramm"

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03.12.2017 21:27, Ilya Zverev wrote: > Introducing OSM Streak: a website that gives you points for submitting > changesets each day: Excellent! I'm sure that before too long, you will receive many emails by people who offer all kinds of excuses for not having edited on one particular day

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-05 Thread Ilya Zverev
I think I have fixed the error. Sorry that you have started using the service with seeing this. Ilya > 5 дек. 2017 г., в 3:26, Stefan Keller написал(а): > > 2017-12-03 23:31 GMT+01:00 James : >> Good idea, is it normal you get a >> "Error connecting to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-04 Thread Stefan Keller
2017-12-03 23:31 GMT+01:00 James : > Good idea, is it normal you get a > "Error connecting to OSM API"? +1 but I'm getting this error too. :Stefan 2017-12-03 23:31 GMT+01:00 James : > Good idea, is it normal you get a > "Error connecting to OSM API"? >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-03 Thread Michał Brzozowski
I have been misunderstood! :) I am not one of Polimappers, I just stumbled across it on the Wiki calendar. So we have 3 independent entities inventing a similar idea. My "challenge" is only now in development on Etherpad, time will tell if I will ever get to finish it, maybe some other member of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-03 Thread James
Good idea, is it normal you get a "Error connecting to OSM API"? On Dec 3, 2017 5:22 PM, "Ilya Zverev" wrote: > Wow, that is an awesome project! I envy you students for having such > unusual OSM activities :) And thanks to you, now I know about the > backrest=* tag. Everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-03 Thread Ilya Zverev
Wow, that is an awesome project! I envy you students for having such unusual OSM activities :) And thanks to you, now I know about the backrest=* tag. Everyone here could benefit from it. Can you write a blog post about the PoliMappers' Adventures? Maybe it could get published on blog.osm.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-03 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Incidentally, that's what I envisioned, as well as did Polimappers [1]. Great minds think alike - all in a short period ;) But unlike me you actually delivered, with software to support it. I planned to have 30 or more challenges in some succession, not limited to mapping, but also showing the

[OSM-talk] OSM Streak: edit the map every day

2017-12-03 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi, I am Ilya and I have been uploading changesets 15 days in a row. Not because I'm so into it or somebody makes me: I've made a tool that reminds me to do it. In a year I expect my HDYC activity chart to be completely filled. And you can have the same too. Introducing OSM Streak: a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Tag History updates - call for help

2017-11-25 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Daniel, Thnx for this message, this is a great tool I like to use Can't taginfo feed or even completely include the tool functionnalities ? I don't know how taginfo got its data from OSM. It would be great to show up tags usage evolution beside current volumetries. Good luck to Martin to

[OSM-talk] OSM Tag History updates - call for help

2017-11-25 Thread Daniel Koć
OSM Tag History is a great service which shows the changes of a given tag used in the OSM database. Probably some of you already know it: http://taghistory.raifer.tech The problem is however that it needs a full database, which includes tag history. The author is not willing to run it

[OSM-talk] OSM Contributors Outlook - The Pulse of OpenStreetMap Contributors

2017-10-11 Thread Pierre Béland
I published a Diary where I analyse the OSM Contributions, trying to have a different perspective on the data.  I briefly show the results of a Cohort analysis of the OSM contributors. These analysis are often used to compare the progression of various groups from day 1 of a particular event

[OSM-talk] OSM stats update

2017-09-26 Thread Andy Robinson
FYI I updated some of the stats charts at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats Cheers Andy (blackadder) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 20.09.2017 o 03:09, Devon Fyson pisze: However on the other hand GitHub is very popular and there would likely be poor buy-in if contributors were asked to use a different system. Therefore I propose that a new template be made on the wiki which is specifically for referring tools in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Devon Fyson
I like the idea of putting it in a software specific version control system but we need to preserve all the tools used to help curate the database along with the database. I don't like the idea of relying on 3rd party hosts with user accounts. We then we have to trust that both the users and hosts

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Ilya Zverev
https://gist.github.com would be the better option — it was specifically made for short rarely changing scripts. I keep a couple scripts there. Don't forget to put the license information in the comments in the script header. Ilya > 19 сент. 2017 г., в 20:09, Kathleen Lu

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Kathleen Lu
If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill, but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free and there is a setting to generate a license file. The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You could explicitly

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-06 Thread john whelan
Building on Frederick's comments we could do with something fairly solid. I would suggest Stats Canada have a lot of experience and and trusted. I hate to say it but there are countries such as the US where I wouldn't believe them if they told me my personal data would not be shared with other

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/06/17 16:51, navi wrote: > But what does that change? Well if nothing else, solid research could help base further discussions on facts instead of hand-wavy assumptions. All we currently say is "we need more women in OSM because somehow we're sure they would be mapping other things, or

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-06 Thread navi
But what does that change? On 9/4/2017 12:32 PM, Zoe Gardner wrote: > Dear OpenStreetMappers > > A couple of weeks ago I launched an online survey aimed to collect > demographic data about OSM contributors for a research project (funded by the > University of Nottingham and the Engineering and

[OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-04 Thread Zoe Gardner
Dear OpenStreetMappers A couple of weeks ago I launched an online survey aimed to collect demographic data about OSM contributors for a research project (funded by the University of Nottingham and the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council) concerned with gender biases in OSM. The

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-09-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
OSM+WD service updates: new examples interface contains just the OSM-related examples, and they are user-contributable. The osmm:loc (centroid) is now stored with all objects including relations, so it is now easy to see how far Wikidata's coordinates are from OSM's - http://tinyurl.com/yd97qtp2

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and science

2017-08-24 Thread Yves
On Thursday 24 August 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: It is certainly good for OSM to offer a helping hand to scientists who are seeking cooperation. I would also like us to develop a review and fact check mechanism for scientific publications on OSM so that those who don't bother to get their facts

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and science

2017-08-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 24 August 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > It is certainly good for OSM to offer a helping hand to scientists > who are seeking cooperation. I would also like us to develop a review > and fact check mechanism for scientific publications on OSM so that > those who don't bother to get

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and science

2017-08-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, commendable initiative. On 08/24/2017 06:54 PM, joost schouppe wrote: > Together, we outlined some very basic ideas about what we think we could > do to help foster closer relations, and published them on my OSM diary: I'm still fond of this 2011 advice for scientists by Muki Haklay:

[OSM-talk] OSM and science

2017-08-24 Thread joost schouppe
Hi, OpenStreetMap is a hot topic to some research communities, and research results can be hot topics within the OSM community - or sometimes they get overlooked completely. Peter Mooney, Frank Osterman and myself think there are benefits to improved relations. The quite critical OSM community

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-23 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 05:38:06PM -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Sarah, thanks, I created an issue at > https://github.com/osmcode/pyosmium/issues/47 > > Does this mean I cannot even use the existing node cache file when > processing ways from the minute diff files from pyosmium? You can do the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-21 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Sarah, thanks, I created an issue at https://github.com/osmcode/pyosmium/issues/47 Does this mean I cannot even use the existing node cache file when processing ways from the minute diff files from pyosmium? On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > On Sun, Aug

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-21 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 11:08:03PM -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Sarah, how would I set the node cache file to the repserv.apply_diffs()? > The idx param is passed to the apply_file() - for the initial PBF dump > parsing, but I don't see any place to pass it for the subsequent diff > processing.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-20 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Sarah, how would I set the node cache file to the repserv.apply_diffs()? The idx param is passed to the apply_file() - for the initial PBF dump parsing, but I don't see any place to pass it for the subsequent diff processing. I assume there must be a way to run .apply_diff() that will download

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-14 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:10:39AM -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > mmd, the centroids are calculated with this code, let me know if there is a > better way, I wasn't aware of any issues with the minute data updates. > wkb = wkbfab.create_linestring(obj) > point = loads(wkb,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-14 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
For relations, I simply add "members" in addition to "tags". The members are stored as 3 different predicates: "osmm:has", "osmm:has:_", and "osm:has:..." (where the ... represents any "valid" label - same rules as for the tag key). The object (value) of the statement is a link to another OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-14 Thread François Lacombe
Hi 2017-08-14 11:18 GMT+02:00 mmd : > Hi, > > Am 13.08.2017 um 19:49 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: > > > * all ways now store "osmm:loc" with centroid coordinates, making it > > possible to crudely filter ways by location > > out of curiosity, can you say a few words on how your

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-14 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
mmd, the centroids are calculated with this code, let me know if there is a better way, I wasn't aware of any issues with the minute data updates. wkb = wkbfab.create_linestring(obj) point = loads(wkb, hex=True).representative_point()

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-14 Thread mmd
Hi, Am 13.08.2017 um 19:49 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: > * all ways now store "osmm:loc" with centroid coordinates, making it > possible to crudely filter ways by location out of curiosity, can you say a few words on how your overall approach to calculate centroids for ways? As we all know it's an

[OSM-talk] OSM Wikidata SPARQL service updated

2017-08-13 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
The combined SPARQL database of OSM and Wikidata has been updated: * There is a short video explaining the basics (at the top of [1]) * new Wikidata interface * now all OSM "wikipedia" tags and sitelinks in Wikidata are stored the same way, so it is possible to cross-check when "wikidata" and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-05-27 0:12 GMT+02:00 Nicolás Alvarez : > The map should say "report a problem", not "add a note". +1, I agree with this part. It really happens not too rarely that people use the "notes" system for their personal notes (like "John's hotel"). Rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Dave F wrote: > > On 26/05/2017 14:43, Florian Lohoff wrote: > >> >> Instead of complaining and continuing the bullshit - close it? Its a >> single click - easy as it is ... We want the feedback and the barrier >> should be low -

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Dave F wrote: > Yeah, but how many of them are useful? I spend far too much of my OSM time > mopping up irrelevant, out of date & inaccurate info. Many notes are > indicating locations which already exist such as building names &

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. May 2017, at 22:17, Dave F wrote: > > Many notes are indicating locations which already exist such as building > names & parks. What devices are being used which don't display this clearly? some app has put a note on every

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-25 Thread Dave F
Yeah, but how many of them are useful? I spend far too much of my OSM time mopping up irrelevant, out of date & inaccurate info. Many notes are indicating locations which already exist such as building names & parks. What devices are being used which don't display this clearly? I wish I could

[OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Anybody else notice the odometer rolled over on OSM Notes? http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/100 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] OSM extracts in OpenTopoMap Style for Garmin devices

2017-04-23 Thread Wolfram Schneider
Hi, the BBBike Extract Service supports now the OpenTopoMap style for garmin devices: https://extract.bbbike.org/?format=garmin-opentopo.zip see also https://extract.bbbike.org/extract-screenshots.html#garmin-opentopo -- Planet.osm extracts: https://extract.bbbike.org BBBike Map Compare:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-17 Thread Tim Waters
At time of writing this email, the Kickstarter project has reached its goal with $1,085 and 18 hours left. This would mean in this case that the Universe cares about this project, but wouldn't in my mind indicate that this would mean that volunteers would magically appear to work on it! Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-14 Thread john whelan
I think my concern is more to do with if its worth doing then OSMF is probably a more efficient way to do it. Kickstarter takes a % and additionally what happens to any funds left over? It's very rare that any project spends the exact amount it was projected to cost. Cheerio John On 14 April

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-14 Thread Hakuch
On 12.04.2017 19:15, Steve Coast wrote: > To me, it’s really an experiment in micro-funding. There are lots of little > projects that use OSM that are built and run by volunteers using free or > cheap resources. And that’s great. Is there also space for tiny things to get > funded enough? I

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-12 Thread Steve Coast
The technical work to open source it is not huge (which is part of the reason why it’s only a $1k kickstarter) but it involves cleaning up the code, moving the repo, clicking some buttons on GitHub. The work to fix the code and the hosting is where most of the cash goes. The social work *to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-12 Thread Hakuch
On 12.04.2017 18:45, Steve Coast wrote: > Ten years ago, I’d probably do the work for free to open it etc, but don’t > have the time now. Just to understand: whats the problem/work of just opening it? Is it because of libs which are not open source? I just feel a little blackmailed at the moment

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-12 Thread Hakuch
On 12.04.2017 17:28, Steve Coast wrote: > Else, it gets canned. what does that mean exactly? If you can't raise the money you will close the service? Why not just open sourcing it? 0x1E6B7645.asc Description: application/pgp-keys 0x1E6B7645.asc Description: application/pgp-keys

[OSM-talk] OSM Stats site kickstarter

2017-04-12 Thread Steve Coast
I’m attempting to raise $1k in a week via Kickstarter [1] to fix the OpenStreetMap Stats site[2] I built last year. The site lets you explore OSM data by country, time and data type: Sadly, it’s suffered bit rot and some countries are broken and not updating. The $1k goes toward fixing, open

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-03-02 Thread joost schouppe
Hi, Thanks to some further input (special thanks to Mikel!) and a boring afternoon, that wiki page is now a bit more than an outline: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_for_Government Robert, Really interesting questions. I hope the page can grow to fit your needs. My

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Conflation Tool

2017-02-19 Thread Éric Gillet
Nice tool, thank you for making it ! Also python3 support is appreciated. Éric 2017-02-16 15:47 GMT+01:00 Ilya Zverev : > Hi everyone, > > I have just finished the conflation script, that would make importing a > set of points much easier. For example, when you have a GeoJSON

[OSM-talk] OSM Conflation Tool

2017-02-16 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi everyone, I have just finished the conflation script, that would make importing a set of points much easier. For example, when you have a GeoJSON of McDonalds' restaurants or a website with locations of Carrefour Express shops. It reads or downloads OSM data and finds matching objects

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-10 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi Joost, Interesting proposal. I'd like to point to Vorarlberg (Austria), who mandated a company in Graz to maintain cycle routes of Vorarlberg in OSM. I added this in the wiki page. :Stefan 2017-02-06 13:45 GMT+01:00 Robert Banick : > Really interesting conversation and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-06 Thread Robert Banick
Really interesting conversation and tips here. My team at the GFDRR has been tiptoeing in this direction for a while. To date we’ve mostly been involved in one-off data creation projects that demonstrate OSM’s value the governments we work with and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-06 Thread joost schouppe
As suggested by Mikel, I created a wiki catalog page about the subject: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMapforGovernment It's just an outline, I'll try to add some stuff from this conversation over the following days; but you're welcome to do that first yourself :) I'm not quite

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-05 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
In this video in English about the Russian Trans-Siberian Railway: https://youtu.be/jRyJiL41Umg?t=3m34s at 3 minutes 34 seconds a Navigation and Security application of a Passenger Train is shown which seems to be based on the OSM. The film was produced in 2014, so the town of Khabarovsk (rus.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government (joost schouppe)

2017-02-04 Thread Peter Mooney
or government (Tomas Straupis) >5. Re: OSM for government (Michael Andersen) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:24:22 -0500 > From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > To: Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com> >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-03 Thread Michael Andersen
On fredag den 3. februar 2017 14.44.47 CET joost schouppe wrote: > Hi, > > With the Belgian community, we're making some careful progress into getting > government to really integrate OSM/VGI into their data management efforts. > So not talking about background maps here, real data contribution

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government

2017-02-03 Thread Tomas Straupis
Hello 2017-02-03 15:44 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe wrote: > With the Belgian community, we're making some careful progress into getting > government to really integrate OSM/VGI into their data management efforts. > So not talking about background maps here, real data contribution or > community

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for government (joost schouppe)

2017-02-03 Thread john whelan
We have something similar in Ottawa, three bits of Government, Gatineau, Ottawa and a federal body called the NCC. Each have their own maps that overlap of their paths for cyclists. OSM is more complete than anything but all three do have Open Data with I understand designated cycle paths. They

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