Re: [talk-ph] adding place reference to a POI

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:43 AM 21/05/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, Some GPS/data contributor (not osm contributor), suggested I add place reference to POI like in the name tag Jollibee (Morato) or Jollibee-Morato something. Adding this should allow referencing of POI names in GPS units. However, we have an

Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party Success!

2009-05-21 Thread maning sambale
Here's my post-party blog report http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/post-party-report-tagaytay-osm-ph-mapping/ And since the party was so last week, where do we go next? On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Napansin ninyo ba, ambilis mag-update ng

Re: [talk-ph] adding place reference to a POI

2009-05-21 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I was thinking of having a branch=* tag for these things. That way, the tools/renderers can have freedom to use this info however they want (add them in parentheses, use smaller fonts, etc.). Practically every company that has branches have names for their branches. It's not necessarily the

Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party

2009-05-21 Thread maning sambale
Thanks On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: Awesome post, will spread the word. Would be cool too if the video had some quick music :) Sorry, no time right now. The render is just a python script. I can send the file for anyone who wants to do more

Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party Success!

2009-05-21 Thread Marloue Pidor
Yup, we use the GT-31 GPS (other GPS unit will do as long as it sends raw NMEA data). You can use two laptop and 1 GPS unit the laptop where the GPS is connected can share the GPS data to the other laptop using ad-hoc connection (not road tested yet). You will now have a GPS server for the other

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
( CHANGE THE EMAIL ADDRESS :( These odd sites that don't return list posts to the list ARE a pain! ) Guenther Meyer wrote: Am Wednesday 20 May 2009 schrieb Greg Troxel: we in germany have the three base zones I mentioned, but it's no problem tom extend these for countries with more basic

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Ed Loach
So as long as exception roads have speed tags, what's the problem? None as far as I can see, but by the time you've checked every road in the zone to see whether it is an exception, and presumably tagged it as checked so other mappers know it has been checked so they don't also need to go and

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Lester Caine: For routing purposes, the speed for each segment of a route is important, and for speed I am sure that the ideal situation is that ALL highway segments have their speeds assigned ( ADDING VARIABLE for those motorway flyover routes which pass over

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: zones for motorway/in town/outof town?]

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Guenther Meyer píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 00:49 +0200: Am Wednesday 20 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: ...but you would need some kind of gis database/functions to evaluate the polygon data. the easy way of reading just keys and values like

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Guenther Meyer píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 00:51 +0200: Am Wednesday 20 May 2009 schrieb Jacek Konieczny: That would not work very well in Poland. Town/city/village administrative border usually differ from the built up zone borders.

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:57:52PM +0100, Radomir Cernoch wrote: The problem with the polygon is that you set a default without checking every individual street. Yes, but there are other people as well. What if they add a new street to the area you have carefully checked and then

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Harris
I would suggest: motorway, urban, rural. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Guenther Meyer [mailto:d@sordidmusic.com] Sent: 20 May 2009 06:44 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town? hi, currently there is a discussion on the german

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-21 Thread Peter Childs
2009/5/20 Joe Richards joefis...@yahoo.com: Where did this idea go in the end? It seems the talk about it petered-out, or was some action agreed (along with who was going to undertake it)? Given the US have forgotten to keep the GPS system up to date, maybe we need a few satelites of our

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 21 May 2009 01:24:36 Radomir Cernoch wrote: Cartinus píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 01:01 +0200: It is completely possible for a village ringroad on a bridge (highway=primary or secondary) to have a maxspeed of 80 km/h due to being outside the build-up zone, not because there is a

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
Guenther Meyer wrote: So while discussing HOW the default speed for roads are calculated is important, can we not simply apply that speed without adding another layer of complexity? I wouldn't do that, because it's a derived value depending on a lot of things like road type, time of day,

[OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, It's been an important 24 hours for the webmapping world. At last - and after many months of expectation - UK cycle charity Sustrans released their new online slippy map. Oh yeah, and some irritating US outfit did some data API or something. But never mind any of that, because it's

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Cartinus: The ringroad does not have the tag maxspeed=80 !!! It has a maxspeed of 80 km/h because that is the default maxspeed of roads out of town in that country. Out of town was one of the three zones in the initial idea. It is defined by the country

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: If you ask for the limit on the ringroad, the answer is: 80, because it has the tag maxspeed=80, which has greater importance than the zone-50.[...] The ringroad does not have the tag maxspeed=80 !!! It has a maxspeed of 80

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread maning sambale
Offline editing. Whoa! Gotta try this one. Congrats for all your work. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-05-21 Thread David Earl
Most websites will give the terms under which content can be used, and these are no exception - they can't! At least not with negotiation with the vendors to permit CCbySA licensing. For example, under Important Notices the first two sites say: The material on this site is covered by the

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-21 Thread Joe Richards
Where did this idea go in the end? It seems the talk about it petered-out, or was some action agreed (along with who was going to undertake it)? Given the US have forgotten to keep the GPS system up to date, maybe we need a few satelites of our own to replace it... Or maybe we can use

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
Guenther Meyer wrote: Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Lester Caine: Guenther Meyer wrote: So while discussing HOW the default speed for roads are calculated is important, can we not simply apply that speed without adding another layer of complexity? I wouldn't do that, because it's a derived

[OSM-talk] Google satellite maps updates

2009-05-21 Thread Maarten Deen
I haven't seen this anywhere, but it seems that Google is updating its satellite maps with even higher resolution data. Compare what I previously knew as best resolution: http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=nlgeocode=ie=UTF8ll=51.835292,5.859522spn=0.001566,0.003272t=kz=19 with this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Google satellite maps updates

2009-05-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: with this: http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=nlgeocode=ie=UTF8ll=51.973234,4.253047spn=0.000781,0.001636t=kz=20 AFAIK Milano has been like this detailed for at least a year now: http://tinyurl.com/plusxg -- -S

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Lester Caine: ALL roads have a defined maximum speed limit ... is this just a matter of 'conversion to english'? The fact that a road does not have a specific sign is not something that maxspeed is concerned with? At least in my reading of the guide lines on

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Philip Shipley
And that means: it's time for Potlatch 1.0. Just had a play - both offline and live editing and wow - it's lovely. Seems to be lots quicker too... Great job Regards Phil ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Radomir Cernoch
Guenther Meyer píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 09:20 +0200: Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Hi, this sounds reasonable. But is there a difference between boundary=administrative and zone:administrative=*? it's exactly the same, just the name is a different one. I would propose

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Philip Shipley
And that means: it's time for Potlatch 1.0. Just had a play - both offline and live editing and wow - it's lovely. Seems to be lots quicker too... Great job Regards Phil ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] GPS Future Was Re: Satellite for OSM

2009-05-21 Thread Peter Childs
2009/5/21 Joe Richards joefis...@yahoo.com: Where did this idea go in the end? It seems the talk about it petered-out, or was some action agreed (along with who was going to undertake it)? Given the US have forgotten to keep the GPS system up to date, maybe we need a few satelites of our

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: zones for motorway/in town/outof town?]

2009-05-21 Thread Radomir Cernoch
Guenther Meyer píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 09:02 +0200: yes - if you can make use of a database with geospatial extension like postgis. there you have functions to find out easily if a point or a line (which streets are) lies inside a given polygon. I you don't have those functions, I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
Guenther Meyer wrote: Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Lester Caine: ALL roads have a defined maximum speed limit ... is this just a matter of 'conversion to english'? The fact that a road does not have a specific sign is not something that maxspeed is concerned with? At least in my reading of

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert changes/bug in changeset?

2009-05-21 Thread Eddy Petrișor
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Aun Yngve Johnsen skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Can somebody look into reverting way 33136730 and 33136657. They seem to have been buggy (only 3 nodes visible out of many) and whan I did an update of relations connected to these roads, they was updated with

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - place=sea, ocean, archipelago

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Collinson
Here are three proposals for identifying high level marine features that I already use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ocean http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sea http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Archipelago Comments on each

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Future Was Re: Satellite for OSM

2009-05-21 Thread D Tucny
2009/5/21 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org 2009/5/21 Joe Richards joefis...@yahoo.com: Where did this idea go in the end? It seems the talk about it petered-out, or was some action agreed (along with who was going to undertake it)? Given the US have forgotten to keep the GPS system

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: zones for motorway/in town/outof town?]

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Guenther Meyer píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 09:02 +0200: yes - if you can make use of a database with geospatial extension like postgis. there you have functions to find out easily if a point or a line (which streets are) lies inside a given

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Lester Caine: right, all roads have a defined limit. the proposal is: if there is a sign for a speed limit: use maxspeed = ... if not: use zone:traffic = ... the maxspeed here can be derived from the zone tag. For routing purposes ... building the time

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Guenther Meyer píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 09:20 +0200: Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Hi, this sounds reasonable. But is there a difference between boundary=administrative and zone:administrative=*? it's exactly the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Steve Chilton
Richard, Sustrans online continues to disappoint this user. Potlatch continues to satisfy requirements of this user. Thanks for all time you have put in to develop these new features. Cheers STEVE -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Radomir Cernoch
Florian Lohoff píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 09:21 +0200: There is no solution other than local survey - everything else is guessing - and IMHO openstreetmap is a collection of facts not guesses. So better have no fact than wrong guesses - at least thats true for maxspeed. Than why do we have

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Radomir Cernoch schrieb: ... Sorry, I maybe didn't make myself clear. Polygon rules do not apply for motorways. Is there any country, where a highway inside a city has different speed limit from the highway outside of the city? Even if yes, this can be specified in the set of country-specific

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 21 May 2009 16:26:04 Guenther Meyer wrote: what we could do as a hint for routers and drivers, is adding the information that the road is equipped with a traffic guidance system. Looking at tagwatch, you can find maxspeed=signals in use already. -- m.v.g., Cartinus

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Radomir Cernoch
Hi, your mail suggests it's time for recapitulation. Firstly let's describe the without-polygon model: 1) Road has tag maxspeed. = I have the answer based purely on maxspeed tag. = Stop any further reasoning. 2) Road has tag zone:traffic = I have the answer based on the combination of

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Cartinus: On Thursday 21 May 2009 16:26:04 Guenther Meyer wrote: what we could do as a hint for routers and drivers, is adding the information that the road is equipped with a traffic guidance system. Looking at tagwatch, you can find maxspeed=signals in use

[OSM-talk] reverse changeset #1268604, which moved nodes across continents

2009-05-21 Thread Christian Kögler
Please reverse the changeset #1268604: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1268604 Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Radomir Cernoch schrieb: ... Ok, then why should we have the polygons? ** It models the law more accurately.* ... this assumption is not correct. Indeed it more incorrect than tagging trafficzone=* on the Ways itself, becasue nether private property nor public parcs, nor anykind of other

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 21 May 2009 17:21:18 Guenther Meyer wrote: Looking at tagwatch, you can find maxspeed=signals in use already. is this tag used for such things also, not only traffic lights? fine! AFAIK a traffic light is a node object with a highway=traffic_signals. AFAIK a way with

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Radomir Cernoch: Ok, then why should we have the polygons? we are talking here about the mentioned tags for the traffic, not administrative or other boundaries, right? ok,. let's see: * It models the law more accurately. false. the traffic laws apply to streets

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Radomír Černoch schrieb: 2009/5/21 Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de: Radomir Cernoch schrieb: ... Ok, then why should we have the polygons? ** It models the law more accurately.* ... this assumption is not correct. Indeed it more incorrect than tagging trafficzone=* on

Re: [OSM-talk] Map rendering

2009-05-21 Thread Ingo Lantschner
Am 20.05.2009 um 17:11 schrieb Mike Ryan: At the end, it says that you can remove features, by removing the rules from osm-map-features-z17.xml file. However, when I took out pubs, for example, they're still there when I render the map. (I'm trying to generate a simple map with just street

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Deakin
* The question of querying node within a polygon or line withing a polygon. So far it seems that such query is doable using PostGis. Nevertheless this needs to be confirmed. postgis or other similar software. a lot of overhead that could be avoided. not good for developing software

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Lennard
Cartinus wrote: AFAIK a way with maxspeed=signals is used for those portals with the electronic speed signs you see over the motorway. I actually hope mappers only use maxspeed=signals for those motorway sections where the speed routinely changes based on congestion or time of day. Not to

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Laenen
So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other kind of zone. It's really the cleanest option and allows for additional tags like a name, and it

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Ben Laenen: So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other kind of zone. It's really the cleanest option and allows

[OSM-talk] How to contribute new tag and symbol?

2009-05-21 Thread Ingo Lantschner
Hi all, I created a symbol and some rules for the key/value tourism/ apartment. How can I contribute this symbol (svg) and the rules to the official osm-map-features-z17.xml? A description for this node is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags#References Thanks in advance, Ingo --

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Radomir Cernoch
Ben Laenen píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 17:54 +0200: So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other kind of zone. It's really the cleanest option and

Re: [OSM-talk] How to contribute new tag and symbol?

2009-05-21 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ingo Lantschner listen2...@lantschner.name wrote: Hi all, I created a symbol and some rules for the key/value tourism/ apartment. How can I contribute this symbol (svg) and the rules to the official  osm-map-features-z17.xml? I think you need to find a

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 May 2009, at 17:33, Radomir Cernoch wrote: Ben Laenen píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 17:54 +0200: So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Ben Laenen wrote: It's really the cleanest option and allows for additional tags like a name, and it allows everything to be more clearly defined, I don't see why that would be the case. For every way with tag X, Y applies isn't any less clearly defined than For every way in a relation with

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Radomir Cernoch schrieb: Ben Laenen píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 17:54 +0200: So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other kind of zone. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Pieren
We already have default speed limits within urban zones defined by a polygone. No relation here. Now, you are talking about an exception to the default speed limit and I hope, it is a minority of streets in this case. Then just simply add the tag maxspeed to these ways, thus overriding any default

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 21 May 2009, Guenther Meyer wrote: relations are one of only three basic structures in OSM (node - way - relation), can we please assume that someone mapping with OSM can grasp three concepts? He already should be able to deal with them now anyway. they are, but at least for

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 21 May 2009, Mario Salvini wrote: Even every relevant road for _ONE_ city in one relation won't work, because the membercount of a relation is limited since API 0.6. This methode won't create any benefit. Well, apparently it isn't limited, and luckily it isn't. It would be an

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 21 May 2009, Radomir Cernoch wrote: Ben Laenen píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 17:54 +0200: So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 May 2009, at 18:17, Ben Laenen wrote: On Thursday 21 May 2009, Mario Salvini wrote: Even every relevant road for _ONE_ city in one relation won't work, because the membercount of a relation is limited since API 0.6. This methode won't create any benefit. Well, apparently it isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk writes: So as long as exception roads have speed tags, what's the problem? None as far as I can see, but by the time you've checked every road in the zone to see whether it is an exception, and presumably tagged it as checked so other mappers know it has been

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 21 May 2009, you wrote: On 21 May 2009, at 18:17, Ben Laenen wrote: On Thursday 21 May 2009, Mario Salvini wrote: Even every relevant road for _ONE_ city in one relation won't work, because the membercount of a relation is limited since API 0.6. This methode won't create any

Re: [OSM-talk] reverse changeset #1268604, which moved nodes across continents

2009-05-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Christian Kögler wrote: Please reverse the changeset #1268604: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1268604 Done, and emailed the user to find out what he did and if we can somehow improve JOSM so that it doesn't happen more often... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/out of town?

2009-05-21 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Thursday 21 May 2009 schrieb Ben Laenen: I'm not proposing it for everything, I'm only proposing it for something where other structures have obvious setbacks. fine. there seem to be people that are doing that. But from some reason using relations for something else than routes is

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert changes/bug in changeset?

2009-05-21 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Thanks for the help Aun On 21/05/2009, at 08:12, Eddy Petrișor wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Aun Yngve Johnsen skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Can somebody look into reverting way 33136730 and 33136657. They seem to have been buggy (only 3 nodes visible out of many) and whan I did

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering some large maps, e.g. whole world

2009-05-21 Thread Dane Springmeyer
Holger, Great script for modifying mapnik symbology for higher/print resolution, and awesome to hear that you are using Cascadenik. Just a note that I've started to work in Mapnik core for supporting scaling based on variable resolution output: http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/343 - Dane On

[OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Richard Bullock
Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph (48.28032km/h), unless tagged as something else. each

Re: [OSM-talk] Live Data - all new Data in OSM

2009-05-21 Thread Jaak Laineste
To put OSM data live to xmpp ist very simple and I don't think it's expensive. Coming back to this a bit older topic. XMPP is server-based solution, so you will overload some server. Why not use good old and free Kazaa network, in its Skype groupchat re-incarnation, so the delivery channel

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Nic Roets
My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier to add all those tags. For example give the editors modes like Rural UK

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Richard Bullock schrieb: Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph (48.28032km/h), unless tagged

[OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I have lots of friends with SonyEricsson phones and I have one bluetooth GPS dongle that I can give to them for making GPS logs. I have stumbled upon a rock - that is which software works on SonyEricsson phones without problems. Mainly I'm looking for software that mainly for SE K510 and SE

Re: [OSM-talk] How to contribute new tag and symbol?

2009-05-21 Thread Ingo Lantschner
Am 21.05.2009 um 18:42 schrieb Adam Schreiber: I created a symbol and some rules for the key/value tourism/ apartment. I think you need to find a different key than apartment. It seems you want to tag an extended stay hotel from the description: ... , but in the US apartment is used to

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
Mario Salvini wrote: Richard Bullock schrieb: Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph

Re: [OSM-talk] How to contribute new tag and symbol?

2009-05-21 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ingo Lantschner listen2...@lantschner.name wrote: Am 21.05.2009 um 18:42 schrieb Adam Schreiber: I created a symbol and some rules for the key/value tourism/ apartment. I think you need to find a different key than apartment.  It seems you want to tag an

Re: [OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
I use TrackMyJourney, which has OSM Maps, and you can use OSM based routing and search online, with live updating. I use TMJ for all my mapping at the moment. If you are happy if small amounts of data, you may want to look at GPSMid. See

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: A typical city here would look like all roads inside the built-up area inside one relation, and when there are roads inside it with another speed limit, tag those ways with maxspeed. Jesus. * Anyone who doesn't know what

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: Am I missing something, No, you're not. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
I should have also said that I use a Sony Ericsson K850i. The K750i will work, though it may run slowly when using the maps as well as the logging. Shaun On 21 May 2009, at 23:00, Shaun McDonald wrote: I use TrackMyJourney, which has OSM Maps, and you can use OSM based routing and search

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: Am I missing something, No, you're not. I should expand that statement. No, you're not missing something, it's a fairly straightforward problem

Re: [OSM-talk] How to contribute new tag and symbol?

2009-05-21 Thread Claudius
Am 21.05.2009 23:37, Adam Schreiber: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ingo Lantschner listen2...@lantschner.name wrote: Am 21.05.2009 um 18:42 schrieb Adam Schreiber: I created a symbol and some rules for the key/value tourism/ apartment. I think you need to find a different key than

Re: [OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread MP
I am using GPSMid (http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/) on SE W200i - I don't have bluetooth GPS, so I use it only for displaying the map (which it does quite fine), but it is also capable of using GPS (should work with bluetooth and integrated cellphine GPSes), logging tracks and making waypoints

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Nic Roets wrote: My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier to add all those tags. For example give the

[OSM-talk] Canadian Triangle?

2009-05-21 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
Unless aliens have started using Canada to teach their children geometry, this seems like someone uploaded something that they shouldn't have: http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34892338 -- Jeff Ollie ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I have a W760 (has an internal GPS) and TrekBuddy works for me for logging purposes. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have lots of friends with SonyEricsson phones and I have one bluetooth GPS dongle that I can give to them for making GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/5/22 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net: Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise Actually, that wouldn't work where I live in Australia. Each

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier

Re: [OSM-talk] How to contribute new tag and symbol?

2009-05-21 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Am 21.05.2009 23:37, Adam Schreiber: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ingo Lantschner listen2...@lantschner.name  wrote: Am 21.05.2009 um 18:42 schrieb Adam Schreiber: I created a symbol and some rules for the key/value

[OSM-talk-nl] Garmin op ibood

2009-05-21 Thread Sander Hoentjen
http://ibood.com/nl/nl Ik neem aan dat je hier ook de Openstreetmap kaarten op kunt gebruiken? Sander ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] http://maximumsnelheid.openstreetmap.nl/

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Maarten Deen wrote: Ben Laenen wrote: Het feit dat er nog geen goeie manier is om te zeggen hoe de bebouwde kom of snelheidszones juist liggen is een tijdelijk probleem, want het zal eens moeten opgelost geraken. Goh, en het wordt steeds gezegd dat de snelheid op

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] XAPI maar dan beter

2009-05-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
En we zijn live :) http://xapi.openstreet.nl:8000/ De 'echte' XAPI code is nog niet geladen, maar ik weet dat mensen al zitten te springen om het volgende te proberen. Dit is Cherokee/DBSlayer voor een MonetDB5 database. Voorlopig nog geen limieten... de eerste die een kruisproduct gaat

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] XAPI maar dan beter

2009-05-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
Stefan de Konink wrote: Voorlopig nog geen limieten... de eerste die een kruisproduct gaat maken zonder constraints weet ik te vinden. Dat is geen loos dreigement :) Omdat ik me realiseerde dat niet ik maar Milo van Dogodigi de kosten draagt voor dit fantastische project. En Cherokee

Re: [talk-au] Rivers

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Owen
I have a nokia n810 which I have used on foot to edit a map in the middle of the day. I used osm2go: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/osm2go/ Which is actively developed, and lets you pick an area, download the osm data for it, make offline changes (with the gps on) and then upload it

Re: [Talk-de] Über Webformular Hausnummern von POI ändern

2009-05-21 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo Adrian. Am Mittwoch 20 Mai 2009 23:16:20 schrieb Adrian Stabiszewski: das Projekt ist schon in Arbeit und heißt Amenity Editor. Wir testen gerade noch die letzten Feinheiten und geben es wahrscheinlich im Laufe der nächsten Woche frei. Ich finde den Namen etwas abschreckend. Vielleicht

Re: [Talk-de] Artikel in Der Freitag

2009-05-21 Thread Peter Dörrie
Ist Google Maps ein Anbieter von Geodaten? Abgesehen von MapMaker haben die doch ihre Daten nicht selbst erfasst? Auch wenn sie sie nicht selbst erfasst haben, bieten sie den Zugang zu diesen Daten (bzw. den daraus entstehenden Kacheln) für den privaten und kommerziellen Gebrauch an.

[Talk-de] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Potlatch hat jetzt eine Save-Funktion und damit einhergehend eine Moeglichkeit zur Konfliktloesung, falls jemand anders die gleichen Daten schon geaendert hat. Auch die Nutzung von Changesets soll besser geloest sein, und Kreuzungsnodes werden anders gezeichnet, damit man schnell

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwetter

2009-05-21 Thread Johannes Huesing
Also, ich habe Schwierigkeiten, die folgenden Dinge so umzusetzen, dass sich der Relation Analyzer nicht beschwert. Ich bearbeite den lokalen Rundweg durch die Altstadt. Da die Altstadt klein ist, muss man den Weg verwinkelt anlegen, damit das nicht so auffällt. In diesem Rundweg sind auch

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