Re: [Talk-hr] Biciklističke staze

2011-04-15 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dobar prvi post! Ne znam zašto se nitko ne javlja, a svi se slažemo da moramo srediti te biciklističke tagove. Sviđa mi se simetričnost highway=path taga koji nije niti footway niti cycleway. Ali ne sviđa mi se to što smo path do sada koristili za footway koji nije betoniran. Znači zemljane

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
how come our acceptance is rather low? http://odbl.de/ There are few large editors, have they not all agreed to it, or some disagree? Andre On 3:59 AM, maning sambale wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz Date: Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:39 AM

[OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Hi, My name is Marc Gemis. I'm new to OpenStreetMap. Since I'm using OpenFietsMap on my Garmin device and I hope to give something back. I saw that in my area (Reet (Rumst)) a number of Buurtwegen (BW) en Voetwegen (VW) are not on the map. I could also add a number of paths in the Park van Boom

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Julien Fastré
Hi, Welcome ! If you need help, just ask the list. Julien PS: If you want to meet other OSM'ers in Belgium : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Upcoming_activities Le 15/04/2011 13:10, Marc Gemis a écrit : Hi, My name is Marc Gemis. I'm new to OpenStreetMap.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Ivo De Broeck
Use potlatch 2 (simple) choose among the path's the generic path Interesting discussion to help a newbie ;-) 2011/4/15 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com Jo wrote: Hi Marc, Your help will be much appreciated! Voetwegen are usually tagged as: highway=footway name=Voetweg 22 bicycle=yes

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Jo
He won't be a newbie for long, with our 'stoomcursus'... Polyglot 2011/4/15 Ivo De Broeck ivo.debro...@gmail.com Use potlatch 2 (simple) choose among the path's the generic path Interesting discussion to help a newbie ;-) 2011/4/15 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com Jo wrote: Hi Marc,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Ben Laenen
Ivo De Broeck wrote: Use potlatch 2 (simple) choose among the path's the generic path Interesting discussion to help a newbie ;-) (off-topic) That simple way of editing in Potlatch2 is just asking for trouble. I advise everyone to learn and use the raw tags from the start for things like

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Jo
Hi Marc, In JOSM, you can use aerial photography on the background by selecting: Luchtfotografie/Bing Sat in the menu. Then you can align your ways on those as well. As the name I would have put 'Buurtweg 23'. We don't use abbreviations in the names. (Except if BW23 is what you actually found

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Hi Jo, The signs of the buurtwegen en the voetwegen always have the abbreviated name BW23 or VW51, followed by the name of the residential road to which the are leading (and thus different on both sides). I'll look into aligning the BW23 with the aerial photo regards m On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Gerard Vanderveken
Hi and Welcome! I assume you use the Atlas for looking up 'trage wegen' (slow roads) Then it is as said in full Voetweg (sentier) or Buurtweg (chemin) followed by a number eg Voetweg 23 Example of Sint-Agatha-Rode (and area around)

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Gerard Vanderveken
Hi, Tags are good. Except segregated = no is only to be used with footway and cycleway. So, delete this tag. The name in full, name = Buurtweg 23 I don't know where you get this BW23 from. It is not indicated as such in the atlas: http://gis1.provant.be/Geoloketten/geoloket.jsp?geoloketid=55

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Jo
I see, then it's done differently in the province of Antwerp, than here in Vlaams-Brabant... 2011/4/15 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com Hi Jo, The signs of the buurtwegen en the voetwegen always have the abbreviated name BW23 or VW51, followed by the name of the residential road to which the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, (Thread moved over from talk) On 04/15/2011 05:55 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: In addition, it is imho not clear that not some of the many imports listed as Attribution licensed wouldn't fall into this category, too (rather than in category 3 as CC-BY). To be clear, my category 3 was meant for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Francis Davey
On 15 April 2011 19:35, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: In addition, it is imho not clear that not some of the many imports listed as Attribution licensed wouldn't fall into this category, too (rather than in category 3 as CC-BY). I haven't seen this list so cannot comment. [snip]

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/15/2011 09:16 PM, Francis Davey wrote: In addition, it is imho not clear that not some of the many imports listed as Attribution licensed wouldn't fall into this category, too (rather than in category 3 as CC-BY). I haven't seen this list so cannot comment. Sorry for that. I had

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Mikel, On 04/11/2011 05:27 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: http://brainoff.com/weblog/2011/04/11/1635 In the following message, all quotes are from your blog post. I've given this matter some thought and I think while your concerns are legitimate, you are perhaps overreacting a bit. OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread 80n
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:08 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: So my understanding now, from Francis' comment, is that CC-By-SA and CC-By are not compatible (you can't accept the CTs if you've contributed data obtained under those licenses, without infringing those licenses?),

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 April 2011 00:38, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: If data is tainted in a way that makes in incompatible with the currently used license then it will have to be removed in order not to put the project at risk (e.g. data copied from proprietary sources). This is independent of the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Cc: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday Hi, David Murn wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:38:30 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: So I chose a slightly humorous response, treating Anthony as if he really were an innocent newbie. I didn't expect that I would have to explain the humour, but I guess I should have known better. Humour is quite

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:49:20 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Eric Marsden wrote: It is not clear to me, from your message or from what I have read on the wiki, whether choosing Decline is a irreversible decision, or whether one would still be able later to accept

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/15/2011 10:13 AM, David Groom wrote: There's also a third kind of tainted that sits in the middle of these two, namely data that has e.g. been released CC-BY. Such data looks compatible at first, but closer inspection (see current discussion on legal-talk) reveals that CC-BY

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 04:08:56 -0700 (PDT) ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 could you please stop publicly blaming others for mistakes that you personally has made? ubot has deleted 15 ways and add some 60.

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/15/2011 01:14 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I don't like 'duplicate node removing' scripts or bots. Duplicate nodes may well have a function, or may not be duplicate at all. +1. Anyone who plans to indiscriminately fix duplicate nodes without actually looking at the situation (e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-15 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 15/04/2011 13:24, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, On 04/15/2011 01:14 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I don't like 'duplicate node removing' scripts or bots. Duplicate nodes may well have a function, or may not be duplicate at all. +1. Anyone who plans to indiscriminately fix duplicate nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday Hi, On 04/15/2011 10:13 AM, David Groom wrote: There's also a third kind of

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread john whelan
Johnwhelan is the account name. Unfortunately I have made a fair number of edits. The concern is I'm not comfortable that all of these meet the new standard but I'm unsure which ones do and which don't. I'm happy to reenter data following the new guidelines. I'm not happy to have some one

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 April 2011 13:28, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Johnwhelan is the account name.  Unfortunately I have made a fair number of edits.  The concern is I'm not comfortable that all of these meet the new standard but I'm unsure which ones do and which don't.  I'm happy to reenter

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Alex Ruddick
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Do you expect any positive outcome from this, or is it for moral reasons that you choose this course of action? There are regions in OSM where a visible no vote will lead to your data being re-surveyed and

[OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread Richard Welty
this occurred to me while surveying speed limits in a somewhat rural part of the US. are any of the routing engines looking at the surface tag as part of their decision making? i ask this because in NY, the default speed limit in rural areas is 55 on all roads. there are numerous unpaved roads

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Richard, Gosmore looks at maxspeed and tracktype. I did not use surface, because I am under the impression that it is possible to drive fast on properly maintained dirt roads in dryer regions. Regards, Nic On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: this

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/15 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: i ask this because in NY, the default speed limit in rural areas is 55 on all roads. highway=unclassified name=Mead Road maxspeed=55 mph surface=dirt I suggest you also add source:maxspeed=US:NY:rural or sth. similar to the roads with no

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/15/11 10:53 AM, Nic Roets wrote: Hello Richard, Gosmore looks at maxspeed and tracktype. I did not use surface, because I am under the impression that it is possible to drive fast on properly maintained dirt roads in dryer regions. interesting. i haven't been setting tracktype because

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Kai Krueger
Frederik Ramm wrote: It would be very hard to construct something of that kind. The most common thing is certainly going to be the above third case, where you have the right to distribute data under CC-BY-SA or maybe even ODbL or maybe you even have the right to distribute it under any

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/15/11 11:30 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/4/15 Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net: i ask this because in NY, the default speed limit in rural areas is 55 on all roads. highway=unclassified name=Mead Road maxspeed=55 mph surface=dirt I suggest you also add

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011-04-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: He knows perfectly well, because he has been told a thousand times, that one of the countries where CC-BY-SA doesn't work for our data is his country of residence, the USA. Being told something is not equivalent to

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The revert script used to remove Anthony's edits (which were traced from Google) was a basic revert script which only used API methods. There were also mistakes made like reverting the items anthony had deleted

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, David Murn wrote: Out of interest Grant, what other large-scale open source projects have changed their licence the way that OSM has?  In fact, changed their licence full-stop..? Wikipedia went from GFDL to

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011-04-15 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: CC-BY-SA works exactly as intended.  In fact, the license even explicitly states its intent:  Nothing in this License is intended to reduce, limit, or restrict any uses free from copyright or rights arising from limitations or

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread john
You are assuming that all dirt roads will be well-maintained, and that all dirt roads are in dry regions. Both assumptions are false. Most of the eastern half of the USA, and the Pacific Northwest of the USA, get plenty of rainfall, and even the dryer regions get some rainfall, some of it

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/15/2011 05:55 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: I thought that the new CTs were supposed to fix this issue [...] I have answered on legal-talk. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-04-14 21:18, Alex Ruddick wrote: If NEII's (and others) are removed, we can add the United States to Australia as 'countries the OSMF is willing to sacrifice.' I'm not afraid that NEII's contributions are lost because he states on his user page: All of my edits are released into the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:36:34 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 04/15/2011 05:55 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: I thought that the new CTs were supposed to fix this issue [...] I have answered on legal-talk. Bye Frederik Frederick, it has occurred to me that if you

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:36:55 -0400 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: this occurred to me while surveying speed limits in a somewhat rural part of the US. are any of the routing engines looking at the surface tag as part of their decision making? i ask this because in NY, the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-04-12 11:56, Michael Collinson wrote: This is to let you know the license change process is moving to Phase 3 [1] very shortly. What exactly will be done with the existing data, and when? Understanding what happens to objects and their parents/siblings/children based on the license

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Mike Dupont
What worries me here is that there are all these versions of the document, the licenses etc. How are you going to deal with different people agreeing to different contracts at different times? mike On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:08 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote: On 14 April 2011

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Hoping you can point me in the right direction.

2011-04-15 Thread Steve Coast
oops think I sent this to talk-IT too... Original Message Subject: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Hoping you can point me in the right direction. Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:58:25 -0700 From: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Original Message

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Alan, On 04/15/2011 11:01 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: What exactly will be done with the existing data, and when? Understanding what happens to objects and their parents/siblings/children based on the license acceptance of the original creator/intermediate editors/last editor is key to deciding

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Thus it doesn't make any sense to say that you want to base your agreement or non-agreement to the CT on whatever plans there may or may not be for dealing with objects that have been touched by many people. How else

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Dermot McNally
On 15 April 2011 23:21, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: At what point was the entire (active) OSM community asked if they wanted to relicense their data? If they haven't (I certainly wasn't) then when will we? Is this accept/decline that vote? If so, how do I vote no? How do I vote yes but

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 April 2011 23:21, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: At what point was the entire (active) OSM community asked if they wanted to relicense their data? If they haven't (I certainly wasn't) then when will we? Is

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Dermot McNally
On 16 April 2011 00:07, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for asking me (if this were a vote my answer would be No, but in the interest of moving on from this nonsense and keeping data flowing I'll eventually say Yes), but the important part of my question was everyone else -- the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 16 April 2011 01:29, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: This licence change now gives every mapper the means of undermining the map through withholding of their own data, once freely given and now very likely a foundation of data created by other mappers, also in good faith. I

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Kai Krueger
Dermot McNally wrote: FWIW I would have favoured earlier specific requests for a vote, but it's basically been an impossible position for the LWG from what I can see as an outsider. No, the vote part really isn't that difficult. Wikipedia managed to hold a vote on their licensing change.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread David Murn
On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 20:36 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 04/15/2011 05:55 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: I thought that the new CTs were supposed to fix this issue [...] I have answered on legal-talk. We dont care if you answered on a podcast sent to the moon. The question was asked

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/16 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 20:36 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: I have answered on legal-talk. that disagree and believe the issue is of great enough importance to not be hidden away. it is not hidden away, and you don't even have to be subscribed to

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 April 2011 00:36, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i ask this because in NY, the default speed limit in rural areas is 55 on all roads. there are numerous unpaved roads (dirt, gravel) which do not have posted speed limits, but where driving at 55 is not reasonable unless

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 April 2011 01:30, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest you also add source:maxspeed=US:NY:rural or sth. similar to the roads with no explicit maxspeed sign. Well he said 55mph is the default maximum for unsigned roads, wouldn't it be more useful for routing software

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/15/11 11:16 PM, John Smith wrote: On 16 April 2011 00:36, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i ask this because in NY, the default speed limit in rural areas is 55 on all roads. there are numerous unpaved roads (dirt, gravel) which do not have posted speed limits, but where

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 April 2011 13:25, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: what i'm after are parameters so that the routing engines present rational results to drivers who aren't me. so why don't we focus on the actual problem in front of us instead of posturing about our driving skills. Well you

Re: [OSM-talk] question for folks working on routing engines

2011-04-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 April 2011 13:43, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2011 13:25, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: what i'm after are parameters so that the routing engines present rational results to drivers who aren't me. so why don't we focus on the actual problem in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Veerse Meer

2011-04-15 Thread Robert Elsenaar
LEnnard, Ik voel mij niet in de positie om jouw noeste arbeid in twijfel te trekken. Ik was echter niet in de positie (op het werk) om in JOSm te kijken. Wel zag ik op de map dat het verkeerd was. Bedankt voor het fiksen. Was Tavernses dankbaar voor de reverts? ;-) Groet Robert

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Veerse Meer

2011-04-15 Thread Lennard
On 15-4-2011 21:58, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Ik voel mij niet in de positie om jouw noeste arbeid in twijfel te trekken. Ik was echter niet in de positie (op het werk) om in JOSm te kijken. Wel zag ik op de map dat het verkeerd was. Bedankt voor het fiksen. Was Tavernses dankbaar voor de reverts?

[talk-au] Fw: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Hoping you can point me in the right direction.

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Someone local to this guy want to speak with him? Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:58:25 -0700 From: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Hoping you can point me in the right direction. Original Message

[talk-au] ABS CodePlay

2011-04-15 Thread John Smith
An Australian Bureau of Statistics initiative to help drive collaboration between students, developers and national and international statistical agencies. http://data.gov.au/2770/contest-abs-codeplay/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] ABS CodePlay

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:21:59 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: An Australian Bureau of Statistics initiative to help drive collaboration between students, developers and national and international statistical agencies. http://data.gov.au/2770/contest-abs-codeplay/ that

[Talk-br] Videos sobre Geoprocessamento

2011-04-15 Thread Djavan Fagundes
Pessoal, Recebi hoje um link com uma série de vídeos falando sobre geoprocessamento. É bem interessante.. Fala sobre o episódio do Haiti.. http://geospatialrevolution.psu.edu/ -- Djavan Fagundes E-mail | xmpp: dja...@comum.org http://djavan.comum.org/blog/ http://butequeiro.comum.org/

Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 31, assunto 7

2011-04-15 Thread vitor
Oi Mauro, Abaixo está o link com todas as cidades http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_250_Cidades/Lista_Completa_de_Cidades http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_250_Cidades/Lista_Completa_de_Cidades Você pode buscar as coordenadas digitando os

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread Rainer Knaepper
koppenho schrieb: Hallo *, wie taggt man am besten folgende addr:housenumber-Angaben: 1. Hausnummer mit Buchstabenzusatz: Trage ich immer ohne Leerzeichen zwischen Nummer und Buchstabe ein. 2. Hausnummer mit Zusatz Einhalb: 42 1/2? Das ist vermutlich ok, aber kommt damit eine Zielort-Suche

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hallo Andreas. Soweit ich bisher gelesen und selbst getan habe, tagge ich die Hausnummern unter addr:housenumber so, wie sie auf dem Schild bzw. in der Adresse steht. Hausnummern mit Zusatz folgen schon national in Deutschland keinen einheitlichen Regeln - da gibt es 42 1/2, 1 a, 1 A, 1a, 1A

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel Phase 3 beginnt am Sonntag

2011-04-15 Thread Rainer Knaepper
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Rainer Knaepper wrote: Knuffig ist, daß ich einer rechtsverbindlichen Vereinbarung zustimmen soll, die ich nicht verstehe. Es gibt inoffizelle Uebersetzungen. Wenn Du auf die Wikiseite zu den Contributor Terms schaust

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 06:07:42AM +0200, koppenho wrote: Hallo *, wie taggt man am besten folgende addr:housenumber-Angaben: 1. Hausnummer mit Buchstabenzusatz: Trage ich immer ohne Leerzeichen zwischen Nummer und Buchstabe ein. 2. Hausnummer mit Zusatz Einhalb: 42 1/2? Das ist

Re: [Talk-de] Darstellung von geotagged Bildern in OSM

2011-04-15 Thread hike39
Hallo Kolossos, ich weiss meine ursprüngliche Anfrage ist schon lange her, aber bis jetzt hatte ich leider noch keine Zeit mich mit Openlayers zu befassen. Gibt es zufällig eine eteas umfangreichere Beschreibung, zu dieser Lösung? Grüße hike39 Am 09.10.2010 00:24, schrieb Kolossos: Schau mal:

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik deutscher Kartenstil: fehlende Bezeichnung von Flüssen

2011-04-15 Thread Sven Geggus
yobiSource yobisou...@googlemail.com wrote: ich erstelle gerade SLD Styles für Geoserver und orientiere mich dabei am deutschen Mapnik Kartenstil. Mir ist dabei aufgefallen das in der Datei layer-water.xml.inc (im Gegensatz zum englischen Stil) waterway=river keine Bezeichnung hat aber

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread Dietmar
Hallo Florian, Von: Florian Lohoff [mailto:f...@zz.de] Gesendet am: Freitag, 15. April 2011 10:02 ... Und was 42 1/2 angeht - Ich glaube nicht das das offiziell ist. Da hat sich jemand einen Scherz geleistet :) Flo Nö, bei uns in Augsburg gibt es die offiziell. Das Extrem ist

[Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread hike39
Hallo zusammen, hat jemand von Euch einen Tipp wie man Büros oder Gelände von Bauunternehmern taggt? Dies schließt natuerlich Hoch- und Tiefbau ein. Gruß hike39 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread André Joost
Am 15.04.11 10:20, schrieb hike39: Hallo zusammen, hat jemand von Euch einen Tipp wie man Büros oder Gelände von Bauunternehmern taggt? Dies schließt natuerlich Hoch- und Tiefbau ein. Wenn es dir um den Bauhof geht: landuse=industrial industrial=construction_company Wenn es dir um die

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel Phase 3 beginnt am Sonntag

2011-04-15 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Freitag, 15. April 2011, um 09:42:40 schrieb Rainer Knaepper: Nur zur Verklaring: Mein Rant richtet sich nicht gegen die Schreiber hier in der Liste, die sich redlich bemühen, Probleme aller Art zu lösen. Sondern? Gegen die dick bezahlten Bosse, die sich im Hauptquartier der OSMF den

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. April 2011 06:07 schrieb koppenho koppe...@online.de: 1. Hausnummer mit Buchstabenzusatz: Trage ich immer ohne Leerzeichen zwischen Nummer und Buchstabe ein. ich auch 2. Hausnummer mit Zusatz Einhalb: 42 1/2? Das ist vermutlich ok, aber kommt damit eine Zielort-Suche klar? m.E.

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Nachtrag zum Thema kuriose Hausnummern: die Null habe ich auch schon gefunden: http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/5258357 und so was hier fand ich auch schön absurd ;-) http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/6281418? Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik deutscher Kartenstil: fehlende Bezeichnung von Flüssen

2011-04-15 Thread yobiSource
Am 15.04.2011 10:11, schrieb Sven Geggus: Wie wäre es wenn Du uns einfach eienn patch machen würdest? Da muss nur wie im englischen Stil folgende Zeile bei den River Definitionen rein: TextSymbolizer name=name fontset_name=book-fonts size=9 fill=#6699cc halo_radius=1 placement=line

Re: [Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Je nachdem, was mit Bauunternehmer gemeint ist, oft bezeichnen sich Rohbaufirmen so (=Maurer/Betonbauer, ggf. Stahlbauer, Tiefbaufirmen), und je nach Größe um industrial oder ggf. craft. Bauunternehmer im rechtlichen Sinn sind alle Firmen, die Bauleistungen anbieten, es kommt darauf an, welche

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel Phase 3 beginnt am Sonntag

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 14. April 2011 19:44 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 14.04.2011 18:37, schrieb Manuel Reimer: Genau dieser Zwitter-Zustand, der jetzt schon ewig andauert, beginnt zumindest mich so langsam zu nerven. +1 +1 wieso sollen immer noch weiter die Daten mit vermutlich zukünftig

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel Phase 3 beginnt am Sonntag

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 14. April 2011 20:09 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: ist es vielleicht auch gar nicht so schlecht, wenn man vom Lizenzwechsel durch einen Mapper aus der eigenen Stadt erfaehrt (und vorallem auch: in der eigenen Sprache) Ich hoffe, dass diese Rundmail jeweils in der eigenen

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel Phase 3 beginnt am Sonntag

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 14. April 2011 22:37 schrieb Rainer Knaepper sm...@gmx.de: Frederik Ramm schrieb: http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms Knuffig ist, daß ich einer rechtsverbindlichen Vereinbarung zustimmen soll, die ich nicht verstehe. wobei es schon ein paar Dokumente gibt, die versuchen, es Dir auch auf

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweise von Hausnummern

2011-04-15 Thread Rainer Knaepper
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Nachtrag zum Thema kuriose Hausnummern: die Null habe ich auch schon gefunden: http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/5258357 Entschuldigung, ist das hier Hausnummer LXII? Nein, dies ist LXIII, aber es ist heruntergefallen ein I Rainer

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik deutscher Kartenstil: fehlende Bezeichnung von Flüssen

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. April 2011 12:25 schrieb yobiSource yobisou...@googlemail.com: Gibt es den jemanden der am deutschen Stil gearbeitet hat und sagen kann ob das ein Bug ist oder aus einen bestimmten Grund so gemacht wurde? (gerade in Bezug auf die Umrandung der Gebäudeflächen) Ich habe da zwar nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel Phase 3 beginnt am Sonntag

2011-04-15 Thread Dermot McNally
2011/4/15 Rainer Knaepper sm...@gmx.de: Was will Dermot beweisen? Beweisen nichts, sondern nur verstehen. Es scheinte und scheint mir noch, dass du bei der ersten OSM Anmeldung auf gleicher Art eine Liste auf Englisch von verbindlichen Bedingungen zur Teilnahme zugestimmt hast. Und dann, wie

Re: [Talk-de] itoworld Layers

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 14. April 2011 21:23 schrieb Johannes Huesing johan...@huesing.name: Die neuen Hervorhebungen von ITO World sind ziemlich schmuck, aber es wird wieder etwas als Fehler gebrandmarkt, was hier viele nicht als Fehler empfinden. Mir ist hier

Re: [Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread hike39
Genau dort habe ich nachgesehen. Leider ist dieser Tag dort noch nicht aufgeführt. Aber ich möchte mich dennoch recht herzlich für die schnelle Antwort bei Dir und Martin bedanken. hike39 Am 15.04.2011 11:40, schrieb André Joost: oder hier nachschlagen:

Re: [Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. April 2011 15:30 schrieb hike39 ho...@hike.de: oder hier nachschlagen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:craft Genau dort habe ich nachgesehen. Leider ist dieser Tag dort noch nicht aufgeführt. ja, eine der OSM-Wiki-Seiten, wo zig Details aufgeführt sind und die wichtigsten

Re: [Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread Andre Joost
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Am 15. April 2011 15:30 schrieb hike39 ho...@hike.de: oder hier nachschlagen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:craft Genau dort habe ich nachgesehen. Leider ist dieser Tag dort noch nicht aufgeführt. ja, eine der OSM-Wiki-Seiten, wo zig Details

[Talk-de] Holzbereich in craft

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Aufgrund eines parallelen Threads schlage ich vor, den Holzbereich im Wiki zu überarbeiten. Grundsätzlich würde ich zwischen strukturellen Arbeiten (tragende Bauteile wie Wände und Dach) und Innenausbau/Möbelherstellung unterscheiden. Die Grenzen sind da zugegebenermaßen teilweise etwas

Re: [Talk-de] Tag für Bauunternehmer

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. April 2011 16:47 schrieb Andre Joost andre+jo...@nurfuerspam.de: ja, eine der OSM-Wiki-Seiten, wo zig Details aufgeführt sind und die wichtigsten Dinge (zumindest aus dem Bauhandwerk) allesamt fehlen * oder z.T. falsch übersetzt sind. Dann mach doch mal. Du bist doch vom Fach ;-)

Re: [Talk-de] ?Mapnik deutscher Kartenstil: fehlende Bezeichnung von Flüssen

2011-04-15 Thread Sven Geggus
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Ich habe da zwar nicht daran mitgearbeitet, aber den Grund kenne ich vermutlich: der deutsche Stil basiert auf einer älteren Version des offiziellen Mapnik-stils, wo Umrandungen von Gebäuden noch nicht drin waren. Das ist ziemlich sicher der

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik deutscher Kartenstil: fehlende Bezeichnung von Flüssen

2011-04-15 Thread Sven Geggus
yobiSource yobisou...@googlemail.com wrote: Da muss nur wie im englischen Stil folgende Zeile bei den River Definitionen rein: TextSymbolizer name=name fontset_name=book-fonts size=9 fill=#6699cc halo_radius=1 placement=line spacing=400 / Ab zoom 14 mit size=10 Poste das doch mal im

Re: [Talk-de] Holzbereich in craft

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. April 2011 17:00 schrieb Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: um das abzukürzen: just do it :) ich danke Dir für das Vertrauen, aber leider ist das gar nicht so einfach. Carpenter ist wohl doch eher eine generische Bezeichnung, so was wie Holzverarbeiter, d.h. ein Zimmermann ließe sich

[Talk-de] Hilfe: Leere Relation E 54 Europastraße

2011-04-15 Thread Toni Erdmann
Hallo zusammen, wie gesagt: die Relation 77040, Europastraße E 54 ist leer, und dass mit der Version 455. Laut http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/E-road_network muss sie mal zu 70% gemapped gewesen sein. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/77040/history hilft

Re: [Talk-de] Hilfe: Leere Relation E 54 Europastraße

2011-04-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. April 2011 19:46 schrieb Toni Erdmann toni.erdm...@web.de: Hallo zusammen, wie gesagt: die Relation 77040, Europastraße E 54 ist leer, und dass mit der Version 455. Das ist der Link zur Version 454: http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/77040/454 Gruß Martin

Re: [Talk-de] Hilfe: Leere Relation E 54 Europastraße

2011-04-15 Thread Toni Erdmann
Am 15.04.2011 19:53, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 15. April 2011 19:46 schrieb Toni Erdmanntoni.erdm...@web.de: Hallo zusammen, wie gesagt: die Relation 77040, Europastraße E 54 ist leer, und dass mit der Version 455. Das ist der Link zur Version 454:

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