Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 19-05-28 21:17, Burkhard Burau wrote: > Hallo Martin und hallo Martin, :-) > > Danke für Eure schnellen und ausführlichen E-Mails. > > Das GOV ist aus meiner Sicht gut, nur leider "nur" eine Datenbank, > welche auf einer OSM-Karte die Lage einzelner, historischer Orte > anzeigt. Deshalb

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Maarten Deen
IMHO the strategy for adding roads also should be on this list. The optionlist to add accessrights for "all, foot, motorvehicles, bicycle, horse" resulting in a foot=yes, motorvehicle=yes, bicycle=yes, horse=yes on all roads is creating redundant tagging. Maarten On 2019-05-29 06:29, Andrew

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
29 May 2019, 02:45 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com: > I understand in NYC a relative newcomer using the new validation feature of > iD has made a very large number of changes to NYC and that I think is the > sort of thing we wish to avoid. > Note that it becomes problem only when combined with

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Andrew Harvey
I'm not sure if this should be added, but at the time how iD decided to add presets for lifeguards facilities was controversial. We used to have documented on the wiki and in use: emergency=lifeguard_place emergency=lifeguard_base emergency=lifeguard_tower emergency=lifeguard_platform Which each

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
additional things that can be part of the definition: - passages through embankments are (in general) not tunnels. - when a road passes over another one, located in a cutting, does not place the lower one in a tunnel (Antwerp ring road) - when the road goes under a waterway, the road is in a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
AFAIK the tunnel=building_passage, this is not a tunnel, but using the tunnel tag anyway. I guess the same is true for culvert. I would not try to come up with a definition that is also applicable to those 2. Maybe my rule of thumb could be extended somehow for the metrotunnels, which are clearly

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread John Whelan
The problem is www.openstreetmap.org has a link to edit OSM.  When it was first put in it probably was a very reasonable thing to do but we do not have a change management system in place and over time iD has changed. The real problem is new mappers will naturally edit OSM through the link

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Why should one editor be held to higher standards than others? Shouldn't they all be held to the same standard? On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM john whelan wrote: > The problem with iD is the fact that it is the default editor on the web > page of the website which implies that everything is

Re: [Talk-it] highway=residential con access=permissive

2019-05-28 Thread danbag via Talk-it
Io sono per semplicità di taggatura e di lettura e la penso come Alfredo.CiaoDanilo Messaggio originale Da: Martin Koppenhoefer Data: 29/05/19 02:28 (GMT+09:00) A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] highway=residential con access=permissive Am Di., 28.

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread john whelan
The problem with iD is the fact that it is the default editor on the web page of the website which implies that everything is OpenStreetMap approved which unfortunately is not the case. If it's placed as the default editor then I think it needs to be held to a higher standard or some sort of

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Michael, Don't you think to be fair that you should include all outside projects, such as JOSM, Potlatch, CartoCSS, etc? None of them are controlled by OSMF as far as I know. To just look at one software project seems like we already reached a decision, we just need the data to back it up. Best,

[Talk-es] Clasificación vías interurbanas Comunitat Valenciana (nuevo Decreto)

2019-05-28 Thread Jordi MF
Hola a todos, Escribo porque he observado que en la wiki [1] no aparece información sobre la clasificación de las carreteras en la Comunitat Valenciana. Hace poco se publicó el DECRETO 46/2019, de 22 de marzo, del Consell, por el que se aprueba el Catálogo del Sistema Viario de la Comunitat

Re: [talk-au] Caltex on name-suggestion-index

2019-05-28 Thread Charles Gregory
Thanks Alex and Ian, So it seems there are plenty of standard Caltex service stations in Australia - any advice on how to stop entries labelled "Caltex" from auto resolving to a "Woolworths Petrol" location when "update these tags" is used? Just changed the "brand" on the second entry in my

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

2019-05-28 Thread Gareth L
Hello all, Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that are spread out? Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology drive and mill road in Rugby. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.38125/-1.24981 It has all the turn restrictions

[OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, I started documenting controversial decisions by the maintainers of iD at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID/Controversial_Decisions Currently, only the highway=footway and the nonsquare=yes issue are mentioned. Please feel free to add other issues which have proofed controversial so

Re: [OSM-talk] Improving iD on osm.org (WAS: Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform)

2019-05-28 Thread john whelan
Do we need the editor on the web page to be the latest and greatest? I think a basic editor that allows you to add lines ie highways etc. POIs with tags should meet 95% of a casual mapper's needs if not more. A trimmed down stable version of iD should meet these requirements. I think the first

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be
Hi, First: the interpretations given here to 'tunnel' are much more strict than the wiki, which leaves much more room for interpretation. A strict interpretation of tunnel makes the use of tunnel=yes of tunnel=culvert for passages of rivers underneath a road senseless, just as

[OSM-talk] Improving iD on osm.org (WAS: Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform)

2019-05-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 28.05.19 um 10:32 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > I think this would definitely be the healthiest and most common-sense > approach for the community. Letting an unchecked third party forge ahead > with iD was good in the beginning but now we need some checks and > balances in place to ensure that

Re: [OSM-talk] Power pole validation (was: mass iD validation arrives in NYC)

2019-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:59 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 28 May 2019, 22:10 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us: > > I don't "fix" those because the validator is just looking at a node > without a power pole. Often their isn't a pole at that location according > to the imagery. > > Sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] place de parking dan Paris [était: Peut-être enfoncé-je des portes ouvertes]

2019-05-28 Thread marc marc
Bonsoir, Le 28.05.19 à 19:30, Jacques Foucry a écrit : > Il y a ici : > https://opendata.paris.fr/explore/dataset/stationnement-voie-publique-emplacements/table/?disjunctive.regpri=GIG%2FGIC=19,48.85835,2.34721=jawg.streets aucune idée de la fiabilité mais attention à la maintenance vouloir

[OSM-talk] Power pole validation (was: mass iD validation arrives in NYC)

2019-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28 May 2019, 22:10 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us: > I don't "fix" those because the validator is just looking at a node without a > power pole. Often their isn't a pole at that location according to the > imagery.  > Sometimes proper fix for that report is to delete node placed where there is

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Peut-être enfoncé-je des portes ouvertes

2019-05-28 Thread deuzeffe
On 28/05/2019 19:30, Jacques Foucry wrote: Salut la compagnies, Hello, Il y a un truc qui me chiffonne. Il y a ici : https://opendata.paris.fr/explore/dataset/stationnement-voie-publique-emplacements/table/?disjunctive.regpri=GIG%2FGIC=19,48.85835,2.34721=jawg.streets Vachement tout plein

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Dave F via talk wrote: > I notice these changesets were completed in 30/60 seconds respectively. > I don't use iD. How is this possible? Does it have a JOSM like mass edit > ability? > > Yes - JOSM does allow mass fixes through the validator. I've even seen

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Dave F via talk
Oh Good Lord, that's dangerous. 'Everywhere' in the 'Where' option accumulates more warnings (1000+) as you pan around Even JOSM doesn't go that far. DaveF On 28/05/2019 19:17, Markus wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 19:56, Dave F via talk wrote: I notice these changesets were completed in

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread GeDeOn .
Well... My feeling is there is no tunnel there. Even when the under-passage is quite long in regard with the width. Could the railway bridge (at the 2nd link) be considered a viaduct ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaduct Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy. Message

Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 21:18 Uhr schrieb Burkhard Burau < b.bu...@t-online.de>: > Mir ist klar, dass OSM kein historisches GIS sein kann, aber vielleicht > eine z. T. zweisprachige Karte. > > ja, mehrsprachige Karten kann man damit wunderbar machen. > Was würde denn passieren, wenn ich bei

Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Burkhard Burau
Hallo Martin und hallo Martin, :-) Danke für Eure schnellen und ausführlichen E-Mails. Das GOV ist aus meiner Sicht gut, nur leider "nur" eine Datenbank, welche auf einer OSM-Karte die Lage einzelner, historischer Orte anzeigt. Deshalb begeistert mich die Darstellung nicht und kann eine

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 28.05.19 um 20:28 schrieb Simon Poole: > The times in the changeset do not reflect the length of the associated > editing session except if the changeset was opened on purpose at the > beginning which IMHO no editor does. A better method to guess the length of the editing session is to

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread Yannick
Le 28/05/2019 à 20:59, Yannick a écrit : > Le 28/05/2019 à 19:14, marc marc a écrit : >> Le 28.05.19 à 19:05, Yannick a écrit : >>> Le 28/05/2019 à 18:32, marc marc a écrit : >>> Le logiciel Ancestris utilise OSM pour visualiser ses données. >> >> ha ouf, j'avais cru qu'il y avait un appel à l'api

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread Yannick
Le 28/05/2019 à 19:14, marc marc a écrit : > Le 28.05.19 à 19:05, Yannick a écrit : >> Le 28/05/2019 à 18:32, marc marc a écrit : >> Le logiciel Ancestris utilise OSM pour visualiser ses données. > > ha ouf, j'avais cru qu'il y avait un appel à l'api édition > pour se géolocaliser > >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Thread Markus
On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 16:48, Jo wrote: > > This has been discussed on the public transport list very recently, but as > usual, without any resolution one way or the other. Status quo rules. OT: I haven't forgotten that topic, i'm just a bit too busy right now (private and on OSM). I'll resume

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Simon Poole
The times in the changeset do not reflect the length of the associated editing session except if the changeset was opened on purpose at the beginning which IMHO no editor does. Am 28. Mai 2019 19:53:22 MESZ schrieb Dave F via talk : >I notice these changesets were completed in 30/60 seconds

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2019-05-28 at 20:00 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 19:56 Uhr schrieb Dave F via talk < > talk@openstreetmap.org>: > > I notice these changesets were completed in 30/60 seconds > > respectively. > > > > I don't use iD. How is this possible? Does it have a JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Andrew Hain
Just out of idle curiosity, do we know of any data consumers that understand crossing=marked? -- Andrew From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: 28 May 2019 19:00 To: Dave F Cc: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um

Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 28. Mai 2019 19:51:12 MESZ schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : >Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 19:34 Uhr schrieb Martin Trautmann >: > >> >> >> Frühere Namen gehören IMHO nicht in die OSM, sondern eher in die GOV: >> >> > > >jedenfalls fehlt denen mein Beispiel

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 19:56 Uhr schrieb Dave F via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org>: > I notice these changesets were completed in 30/60 seconds respectively. > I don't use iD. How is this possible? Does it have a JOSM like mass edit > ability? > >I don't see asking users to split the

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Dave F via talk
I notice these changesets were completed in 30/60 seconds respectively. I don't use iD. How is this possible? Does it have a JOSM like mass edit ability?   I don't see asking users to split the changesets as a solution to what is the clear problem of mass adding/amending tags to

Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 19:34 Uhr schrieb Martin Trautmann : > > > Frühere Namen gehören IMHO nicht in die OSM, sondern eher in die GOV: > > jedenfalls fehlt denen mein Beispiel Lyon auch noch (auf deutsch). Kann man die Daten auch runterladen, und welche

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-Talk-Fr] Extinction de l'éclairage public

2019-05-28 Thread Paul Desgranges
Le 28/05/2019 à 19:25, Nicolas Bétheuil a écrit : Bonjour, Avez-vous déjà référencé des villes / communes / village qui éteignent l'éclairage public durant la nuit ? Quels tags utiliseriez vous ? Bon, en fait, en regardant un peu mieux dans le wiki et tag info j'ai trouvé ça

Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 19-05-28 19:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Hallo Burkhard, > > wir haben zu diesem Thema in der Vergangenheit schon ein paarmal > diskutiert, im Prinzip ist es immer gut und erwünscht, mitzumachen, d.h. > weitere Daten einzutragen. Dadurch dass man deutsche Namen in > anderssprachigen

[OSM-talk-fr] Peut-être enfoncé-je des portes ouvertes

2019-05-28 Thread Jacques Foucry
Salut la compagnies, Il y a un truc qui me chiffonne. Il y a ici : https://opendata.paris.fr/explore/dataset/stationnement-voie-publique-emplacements/table/?disjunctive.regpri=GIG%2FGIC=19,48.85835,2.34721=jawg.streets Vachement tout plein de belles infos parisiennes que l'on peut imaginer

Re: [Talk-it] highway=residential con access=permissive

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 19:00 Uhr schrieb canfe : > Ciao Andrea, > non penso possa essere motor_vehicle=private (Only with permission of the > owner on an individual basis) > per due ragioni: > 1) il permesso non è su base individuale, ma per categorie (contadini, > silvicoltori e pastori) > ma

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread Yannick
Le 28/05/2019 à 19:13, Topographe Fou a écrit : > En effet, sur le site https://www.ancestris.org/index_fr.html on voit des > captures écrans avec des cartes ayant le même style que le fond de carte > osm.org et, à moins que mes yeux ne me jouent des tours, pas de mention > source osm. > >

[OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-Talk-Fr] Extinction de l'éclairage public

2019-05-28 Thread Nicolas Bétheuil
Bonjour, Avez-vous déjà référencé des villes / communes / village qui éteignent l'éclairage public durant la nuit ? Quels tags utiliseriez vous ? Bon, en fait, en regardant un peu mieux dans le wiki et tag info j'ai trouvé ça https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/operating_times#map

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread marc marc
Le 28.05.19 à 19:05, Yannick a écrit : > Le 28/05/2019 à 18:32, marc marc a écrit : > Le logiciel Ancestris utilise OSM pour visualiser ses données. ha ouf, j'avais cru qu'il y avait un appel à l'api édition pour se géolocaliser > Normalement on ne télécharge que le fond de carte à la demande.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread Topographe Fou
En effet, sur le site https://www.ancestris.org/index_fr.html on voit des captures écrans avec des cartes ayant le même style que le fond de carte osm.org et, à moins que mes yeux ne me jouent des tours, pas de mention source osm. Mais je n'ai pas ce logiciel pour voir les requêtes HTTP qu'il

Re: [Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Hallo Burkhard, wir haben zu diesem Thema in der Vergangenheit schon ein paarmal diskutiert, im Prinzip ist es immer gut und erwünscht, mitzumachen, d.h. weitere Daten einzutragen. Dadurch dass man deutsche Namen in anderssprachigen Gebieten in einen tag "name:de" steckt und nicht in den

Re: [Talk-it] geologia,

2019-05-28 Thread Nogaro
From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: 28 May 2019 18:34 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] geologia, io non ero sicuro se fosse corretto, ci sono alcuni casi dove natural=cave_entrance è stato modificato in sinkhole. Secondo il wiki, per mantenere la doppia natura si può

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread Yannick
Le 28/05/2019 à 18:32, marc marc a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > Le 28.05.19 à 17:30, Yannick a écrit : >> Y a-t-il eut un changement important sur les serveurs OSM hier? > > osm.org ? j'ai vu passé une salve de ban anti-abus > >> En effet Ancestris qui fait appel à OSM pour sa géolocalisation >> des

Re: [Talk-it] highway=residential con access=permissive

2019-05-28 Thread canfe
Ciao Andrea, non penso possa essere motor_vehicle=private (Only with permission of the owner on an individual basis) per due ragioni: 1) il permesso non è su base individuale, ma per categorie (contadini, silvicoltori e pastori) 2) non è il proprietario (owner) della strada a dare il permesso, ma

[Talk-de] Neuvorstellung und Frage zu historischen Ortsnamen

2019-05-28 Thread Burkhard Burau
Hallo zusammen, mein Name ist Burkhard Burau aus Leverkusen und ich habe mich erst gestern bei OSM angemeldet :-). Ich bin 54 Jahre alt, von Beruf Stadtplaner und engagierter Familienforscher. Meine Vorfahren stammen aus Westpreußen, was im Kern ungefähr der heutigen polnischen "Woiwodschaft

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
This is the place: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2216551,4.0345363,3a,75y,49.39h,77.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjggCIzrpgLhVFtrn6gYCnQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (sorry no Mapillary images yet). Burchtakker (the parallel road) is lowered near the (bicycle) tunnel under the E34/A11. On Tue, May 28, 2019 at

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Jmapb
On 5/28/2019 12:25 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 28 May 2019, 17:13 by jm...@gmx.com: Any other suggestions? Suggest user to split edits into smaller chunks. Yes that would be far preferable, and I did message this user. That doesn't address the immediate question of how to attempt QA on

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
I think there is a tunnel under the e34 between Antwerpen en Zelzate. There used to be a level crossing which was removed and instead they created an underground passage for it. M Op di 28 mei 2019 14:46 schreef Lionel Giard : > @joost schouppe To me that's indeed a bridge, > as you see the

Re: [Talk-it] geologia,

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um 17:55 Uhr schrieb Ivo Reano : > La pagina wiki descrive il tag come "A natural depression or hole in the > surface topography" > Nei sistemi carsici la dolina e l'inghiottitoio si distinguono perchè nel > secondo la cavità di ingresso dell'acqua è visibile. A volte la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread marc marc
Bonsoir, Le 28.05.19 à 17:30, Yannick a écrit : > Y a-t-il eut un changement important sur les serveurs OSM hier? osm.org ? j'ai vu passé une salve de ban anti-abus > En effet Ancestris qui fait appel à OSM pour sa géolocalisation > des données ne peut plus accéder. heu... j'ai peur de

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Thread mmd
Am 28.05.19 um 10:32 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Perhaps it is possible to have a forked iD that does not work by > meticulously cherry-picking every new change that is added to iD > (because that would be too much work), but instead - a bit like the > mechanisms when building a Debian or Ubunutu

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28 May 2019, 17:13 by jm...@gmx.com: > Any other suggestions? > Suggest user to split edits into smaller chunks. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

2019-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28 May 2019, 16:24 by ja...@piorkowski.ca: > On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 07:24, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > >> In this bot edit: >> >> * Editing is limited to Poland >> * Editing is limited to nodes with public_transport=platform bus=yes >> * Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters)

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 28. Mai 2019 17:44:25 MESZ schrieb Simon Poole : >1st thing to do is to ask the napper to slow ... mapper :-) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit Kaiten Mail gesendet. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] geologia,

2019-05-28 Thread Ivo Reano
La pagina wiki descrive il tag come "A natural depression or hole in the surface topography" Nei sistemi carsici la dolina e l'inghiottitoio si distinguono perchè nel secondo la cavità di ingresso dell'acqua è visibile. A volte la dolina può essere anche zona sorgiva (!) Quindi secondo me, la

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Simon Poole
1st thing to do is to ask the napper to slow down in a change set comment. Am 28. Mai 2019 17:13:49 MESZ schrieb Jmapb : >See yesterday's changesets: > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70676813 ( >https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=70676813 )

[OSM-talk-fr] Problème de connexion

2019-05-28 Thread Yannick
Bonsoir, Y a-t-il eut un changement important sur les serveurs OSM hier? En effet Ancestris qui fait appel à OSM pour sa géolocalisation des données ne peut plus accéder. Amitiés -- Yannick VOYEAUD Nul n'a droit au superflu tant que chacun n'a pas son nécessaire (Camille JOUFFRAY 1841-1924,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un dépliant tout neuf pour la communauté !

2019-05-28 Thread Cédric Frayssinet
Merci pour ce beau travail. Le dépliant est clair et aéré, je vais le partager sur l'académie de Lyon. Cédric Le 28/05/2019 à 12:48, PanierAvide a écrit : > > Bonjour à tous, > > En début d'année, l'asso OSM France a lancé un projet pour la > réalisation d'un dépliant papier à destination du

[OSM-talk-ie] Bing maps

2019-05-28 Thread Noel Ballantyne
Hello, Is anyone having an issue with bing maps in JOSM. the tiles are not loading, i get an Error Attribution is not loaded yet. I have flushed tile cache. this happening on 2 machines. Noel ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk-fr] [pro] Ajout des données Rézopouce

2019-05-28 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Bonjour, j'en ai discuté sur la liste transport mais pas ici :( Rezopouce, l'autostop au quotidien (https://rezopouce.fr/), a fourni les données de ses arrêts dans le Seignanx (le sud-ouest des Landes). Après avoir vérifié la cohérence (bord de route et en particulier croisement ou espace

[OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Thread Jmapb
See yesterday's changesets: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70676813 ( https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=70676813 ) https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70676888 ( https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=70676888 ) I believe this is just a casual user browsing around in

Re: [Talk-it] geologia,

2019-05-28 Thread Damjan Gerl
Si, per me sono due cose differenti. Una dolina potrebbe anche avere un inghiottitoio, ma sono comunque due cose separate. Damjan -- Original Header --- From : "Martin Koppenhoefer" dieterdre...@gmail.com To : "openstreetmap list - italiano"

Re: [Talk-it] geologia,

2019-05-28 Thread Gabriele via Talk-it
Io sinkhole lo uso solo per le doline, che in realta' sono dei semplici avvallamenti particolari di alcune zona appunto carsiche. Non so pero' quale sia il tag giusto per inghiottitoio Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday 28

[Talk-it] geologia,

2019-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Ho trovato questo changeset, dove probabilmente ad ogni oggetto con "Inghiottitoio" nel nome è stato assegnato il tag natural=sinkhole https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70674529 Non mi intendo di geologia, ma da quanto ho letto, mi sembrano due cose diverse? Secondo wikipedia un sinkhole

Re: [Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

2019-05-28 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 07:24, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > In this bot edit: > > * Editing is limited to Poland > * Editing is limited to nodes with public_transport=platform bus=yes > * Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters) highway=bus_stop are ignored[1] > * Elements with highway tag are skipped

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Thread john whelan
I would support a forked version of iD as a default editor on the home page. I think OpenStreetMap is mature and complex enough now to start using techniques like change management which are used in the IT world to manage change. It is common practice in corporate IT. Cheerio John On Tue, May

Re: [Talk-cu] name=WIFI_ETECSA

2019-05-28 Thread José Daniel Rodríguez Morales
Hi Frédéric Yes, they are miss tagged. They are just public (but not free) wifi hot spots without any shop, the nationals know widely what " WIFI_ETECSA" is, but it can be confusing to other people. I have fixed many of them, but people (possibly not members of this list) keep tagging them

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Lionel Giard
@joost schouppe To me that's indeed a bridge, as you see the same structure as on the motorway bridges : a platform supported by pillars A tunnel is generally something that was dig (removing earth/material) and consolidated from the inside (most often with concrete) like a subway tunnel if

Re: [Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

2019-05-28 Thread Jo
I think it's standard practice to add highway=bus_stop to nodes for bus stops, as they won't render otherwise anyway. I don't see parrticular need to ask for permission to add it, but if you do, you have my vote to add it. I'm starting to have a tendency to move away from

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Gemis
I doubt one had to dig something for the road to pass under the railway. There is no "earth" between the road and the sky, only stuff that humans created, like concrete, stones and asphalt. So a bridge for me. I apply the rule: stand on the road, look up, which layers of material do you "see"

[Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

2019-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
In Poland there are some bus stops mapped solely as public transport=platform bus=yes nodes, without highway=bus_stop. One of local mappers noticed this problem and asked for fixing the problem, what resulted in automatic edit proposal being accepted by a local community as it is considered

[OSM-talk-fr] Un dépliant tout neuf pour la communauté !

2019-05-28 Thread PanierAvide
Bonjour à tous, En début d'année, l'asso OSM France a lancé un projet pour la réalisation d'un dépliant papier à destination du grand public. L'objectif est de permettre aux communautés locales d'avoir un support prêt-à-l'emploi, travaillé pour être lisible et accessible au plus grand

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread joost schouppe
Hmm, how about this case: https://play.osm.be/historischekaart.html#18/50.84125/4.03590/dhm_hill-osmroads https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=50.8409878896054=4.035847194701205=17=CemcYfldMKwaCCdn0eK2bQ=photo=0.5005982815044207=0.34925403860156434=0 It's a road that was dug under a slightly

Re: [Talk-it] Source sentiero

2019-05-28 Thread Andreas Lattmann
Ho cancellato sentiero ed aperto nuova nota dove indica l'inizio del sentiero raccomandando di non scopiazzare  Questo è l'inizio del sentiero: https://theta360.com/s/c3G87ocRpGp9JjFX1o3dwFAS8?utm_medium=referral_source=app_theta_win Andreas -- I❤️ Software Libero.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Josm traduction du wiki : images

2019-05-28 Thread Leni
Je viens de m'apercevoir qu'il y avait en bas de page un bouton "Joindre un autre fichier" avec la possibilité de mettre une "Description du fichier (optionnelle)" et de "Remplacer toute pièce jointe existante avec le même nom" je vais essayer cette possibilité. Cordialement Leni 

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28 May 2019, 10:32 by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 27.05.19 12:07, Simon Poole wrote: > >> As I see it we can choose between >> > > [...] > >> - deploy from a forked iD that is selective with respect to which >> commits are integrated (IMHO too much work) >> > > I think this would

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.05.19 12:07, Simon Poole wrote: > As I see it we can choose between [...] > - deploy from a forked iD that is selective with respect to which > commits are integrated (IMHO too much work) I think this would definitely be the healthiest and most common-sense approach for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.05.2019 um 12:58 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > .. > I think this is a too limited view of the options the OSM community has. I don't think I claimed to explore every possible sub-variant. > I in particular see: > > * a wide range of possibilities to offer iD on osm.org but not exactly >

Re: [Talk-it] Source sentiero

2019-05-28 Thread Volker Schmidt
Mi sono consultato con il CAI centrale. La way va rimossa: 1) mappatura da una sorgente cartacea che al di la della precisione potrebbe anche avere dei diritti d'autore che in questo modo non vengono rispettati 2) l'utente ha mappato senza esserci stato e senza citare fonti affidabili come foto

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread ghia
I don't think that, what was first, is always relevant. Your cycleway 'tunnel' is a bridge. A tunnel has to go in depth or under a lot of other things (not a simple crossing). A bridge is in general less thick then the height of the passage. Or the height of a tunnel is less than half the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Lionel Giard
I agree with the above answer that except #2, all are bridge. One other method to identify a bridge is to check the structure (either with a "tablier"/bridge deck which goes from one support to the next, or with arch like one of the example...). There are typical bridge structure, while most

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Tim Couwelier
I'll agree with everyone else on the given selection here. As for how I try to decide: Ideally, you'd have the history of 'what came first'. Whichever level this one is at goes as the 'baselevel'. Either a new road / railway / .. goes: OVER it, making that a bridge UNDER it, making it a tunnel AT

[Talk-it] PEBAthon a Padova, 2 giugno

2019-05-28 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
Buongiorno a tutti. All'interno del percorso del PEBA (Piano per l'Eliminazione delle Barriere Architettoniche) del Comune di Padova (http://www.padovanet.it/peba) è stato organizzato un "*PEBAthon*", una mattinata di editing comunitario per inserire insieme in OpenStreetMap le informazioni

Re: [Talk-it] Source sentiero

2019-05-28 Thread Volker Schmidt
OK On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 08:49, Alfredo Gattai wrote: > Se lo facessi tu mi faresti un favore, e' un periodo un po' frenetico per > me > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:45 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> Lo fai tu o lo faccio io? >> >> > >> ___ > Talk-it

Re: [talk-cz] Upgrade OsmHiCheck

2019-05-28 Thread Tom Ka
Diky moc, nebude to hned, ale jak bud chvilka, tak na to mrknu. Bye po 27. 5. 2019 v 19:44 odesílatel majka napsal: > > > > On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 16:00, Tom Ka wrote: >> >> ted jsou 3 typy ikon podle druhu problemu, ale tohle muze byt uchovano >> v barve ikony, jestli to mas nejak vyzkousene,

Re: [Talk-it] Source sentiero

2019-05-28 Thread Alfredo Gattai
Se lo facessi tu mi faresti un favore, e' un periodo un po' frenetico per me On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:45 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > Lo fai tu o lo faccio io? > > > ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Source sentiero

2019-05-28 Thread Volker Schmidt
Lo fai tu o lo faccio io? On Mon, 27 May 2019, 23:21 Alfredo Gattai, wrote: > Behsembra un'esempio da manuale che rispecchia tutto cio' che non > andrebbe fatto e cioe': > > 1) mappare da una sorgente cartacea che al di la della precisione potrebbe > anche avere dei diritti d'autore che in